"Smoking is set to be banned in pub beer gardens, outdoor restaurants and outside sports stadiums and hospitals as part of a fresh government crackdown.
According to The Sun, ministers have drawn up plans to go even further than the last Tory government in encouraging smokers to kick the habit.
If you're a pub landlord a bad one. If you're a smoker a bad one. If you don't smoke a good one.
Syl said
Aug 29 1:48 PM, 2024
I dont' smoke, and I hate eating near smokers, but pub gardens are usually big enough to accomodate everyone, so all in all, I think it's a bad idea.
Not sure how the average landlord could police that either.
Maddog said
Aug 29 1:59 PM, 2024
Dumb idea.
Therefore it will be implemented.
I guess all of the serious problems have already been addressed in the UK, and they need to focus on the trivial..😉
Magica said
Aug 29 2:10 PM, 2024
Dictator Starker is banning smoking everywhere, disgusting. Pushed them into the open, now banning that. It's not a free country anymore.
I don't smoke, but I can't see the harm in them smoking outside, they had no choice.
Syl said
Aug 29 6:19 PM, 2024
Magica wrote:
Dictator Starker is banning smoking everywhere, disgusting. Pushed them into the open, now banning that. It's not a free country anymore.
I don't smoke, but I can't see the harm in them smoking outside, they had no choice.
Another feather in the cap for nanny state supporters.
There was obviously a need to ban smoking inside, second hand smoking is a real worry, especially for young and vulnerable. But if people want to smoke in their own homes, it's up to them.
If people want to smoke outside, even in hospital grounds, that should also be up to them.
Magica said
Aug 29 6:39 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Dictator Starker is banning smoking everywhere, disgusting. Pushed them into the open, now banning that. It's not a free country anymore.
I don't smoke, but I can't see the harm in them smoking outside, they had no choice.
Another feather in the cap for nanny state supporters.
There was obviously a need to ban smoking inside, second hand smoking is a real worry, especially for young and vulnerable. But if people want to smoke in their own homes, it's up to them.
If people want to smoke outside, even in hospital grounds, that should also be up to them.
I think pubs will suffer more again. Many have had shelters built for smokers, now they will be useless. Restaurants and cafes also. They are doing no harm to anyone.
How can they stop it tbh, will they police all streets?
Syl said
Aug 29 6:46 PM, 2024
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Dictator Starker is banning smoking everywhere, disgusting. Pushed them into the open, now banning that. It's not a free country anymore.
I don't smoke, but I can't see the harm in them smoking outside, they had no choice.
Another feather in the cap for nanny state supporters.
There was obviously a need to ban smoking inside, second hand smoking is a real worry, especially for young and vulnerable. But if people want to smoke in their own homes, it's up to them.
If people want to smoke outside, even in hospital grounds, that should also be up to them.
I think pubs will suffer more again. Many have had shelters built for smokers, now they will be useless. Restaurants and cafes also. They are doing no harm to anyone.
How can they stop it tbh, will they police all streets?
The book/film Faranheight 451 comes to mind when governments try to take away citizens rights.
Remember a few years ago when neighbours were asked to spy on others to try to catch benefit scroungers out?
No one likes benefit scroungers, but asking people to dob their neighbours in is far worse imo.
Magica said
Aug 29 8:28 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Dictator Starker is banning smoking everywhere, disgusting. Pushed them into the open, now banning that. It's not a free country anymore.
I don't smoke, but I can't see the harm in them smoking outside, they had no choice.
Another feather in the cap for nanny state supporters.
There was obviously a need to ban smoking inside, second hand smoking is a real worry, especially for young and vulnerable. But if people want to smoke in their own homes, it's up to them.
If people want to smoke outside, even in hospital grounds, that should also be up to them.
I think pubs will suffer more again. Many have had shelters built for smokers, now they will be useless. Restaurants and cafes also. They are doing no harm to anyone.
How can they stop it tbh, will they police all streets?
The book/film Faranheight 451 comes to mind when governments try to take away citizens rights.
Remember a few years ago when neighbours were asked to spy on others to try to catch benefit scroungers out?
No one likes benefit scroungers, but asking people to dob their neighbours in is far worse imo.
Yeah I do. I hate how this country is.now and has been for a very long time.
jackb said
Aug 29 9:02 PM, 2024
You will own nothing!
Maybe we'll own no rights either but they forgot to tell us...
Magica said
Aug 29 9:43 PM, 2024
jackb wrote:
You will own nothing! Maybe we'll own no rights either but they forgot to tell us...
Yep, we are being stripped of all our rights, bit by bit! I hate Stalinmer😠
Digger said
Aug 29 10:47 PM, 2024
I don't smoke but i think it's going too far
Vita said
Aug 30 4:07 AM, 2024
It's almost three years since I stopped smoking 🚬 so the ban doesn't affect but it's getting to much like a Nanny State for my liking.
It will be booze and sugar next.
He's shaping up to be one of the worst Prime minister's ever and he's only been in office a few months.
Magica said
Aug 30 10:29 AM, 2024
Vita wrote:
It's almost three years since I stopped smoking 🚬 so the ban doesn't affect but it's getting to much like a Nanny State for my liking.
It will be booze and sugar next.
He's shaping up to be one of the worst Prime minister's ever and he's only been in office a few months.
It's gone to his head. He's a dictator, traitor and Bliar pulling his strings. Worse PM since Bliar. They are in it together.
Digger said
Aug 30 11:25 PM, 2024
Magica wrote:
Vita wrote:
It's almost three years since I stopped smoking 🚬 so the ban doesn't affect but it's getting to much like a Nanny State for my liking.
It will be booze and sugar next.
He's shaping up to be one of the worst Prime minister's ever and he's only been in office a few months.
It's gone to his head. He's a dictator, traitor and Bliar pulling his strings. Worse PM since Bliar. They are in it together.
and the poor ickle soul couldn't face Maggie staring down accusingly at him every day
Vita said
Aug 31 3:12 AM, 2024
Magica wrote:
Vita wrote:
It's almost three years since I stopped smoking 🚬 so the ban doesn't affect but it's getting to much like a Nanny State for my liking.
It will be booze and sugar next.
He's shaping up to be one of the worst Prime minister's ever and he's only been in office a few months.
It's gone to his head. He's a dictator, traitor and Bliar pulling his strings. Worse PM since Bliar. They are in it together.
He's gone power mad, there is memes of him online like that wee dictator in North Korea.
That will be us next, all with bad haircuts the same and feart to say anything.
😕
Syl said
Aug 31 3:48 PM, 2024
I think he is far too weak to be a tyrant or a dictator....no matter how hard he is trying to appear strong and powerful.
He reminds me of a bully, and a bully is usually a coward surrounded by yes men.
Once the yes men have had enough, he will have nothing.
Magica said
Aug 31 5:13 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
I think he is far too weak to be a tyrant or a dictator....no matter how hard he is trying to appear strong and powerful. He reminds me of a bully, and a bully is usually a coward surrounded by yes men. Once the yes men have had enough, he will have nothing.
He will be ousted by his own party before Christmas imo.
Syl said
Sep 1 8:04 PM, 2024
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
I think he is far too weak to be a tyrant or a dictator....no matter how hard he is trying to appear strong and powerful. He reminds me of a bully, and a bully is usually a coward surrounded by yes men. Once the yes men have had enough, he will have nothing.
He will be ousted by his own party before Christmas imo.
The problem is, who is going to take over if he is?
Magica said
Sep 1 8:47 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
I think he is far too weak to be a tyrant or a dictator....no matter how hard he is trying to appear strong and powerful. He reminds me of a bully, and a bully is usually a coward surrounded by yes men. Once the yes men have had enough, he will have nothing.
He will be ousted by his own party before Christmas imo.
The problem is, who is going to take over if he is?
I have no idea, but surely can't be worse than him!
Is this a good idea or a bad one?
"Smoking is set to be banned in pub beer gardens, outdoor restaurants and outside sports stadiums and hospitals as part of a fresh government crackdown.
According to The Sun, ministers have drawn up plans to go even further than the last Tory government in encouraging smokers to kick the habit.
Labour have already confirmed they will implement Rishi Sunak’s plan to introduce a phased smoking ban by making it illegal for anyone born after 2010 to legally buy tobacco products.
It has now emerged that the legislation introducing that change will also prohibit outdoor smoking in a range of settings."
Smoking Ban Planned For Beer Gardens And Stadiums | HuffPost UK Politics (huffingtonpost.co.uk)
If you're a pub landlord a bad one. If you're a smoker a bad one. If you don't smoke a good one.
Not sure how the average landlord could police that either.
Therefore it will be implemented.
I guess all of the serious problems have already been addressed in the UK, and they need to focus on the trivial..😉
I don't smoke, but I can't see the harm in them smoking outside, they had no choice.
Another feather in the cap for nanny state supporters.
There was obviously a need to ban smoking inside, second hand smoking is a real worry, especially for young and vulnerable. But if people want to smoke in their own homes, it's up to them.
If people want to smoke outside, even in hospital grounds, that should also be up to them.
I think pubs will suffer more again. Many have had shelters built for smokers, now they will be useless. Restaurants and cafes also. They are doing no harm to anyone.
How can they stop it tbh, will they police all streets?
The book/film Faranheight 451 comes to mind when governments try to take away citizens rights.
Remember a few years ago when neighbours were asked to spy on others to try to catch benefit scroungers out?
No one likes benefit scroungers, but asking people to dob their neighbours in is far worse imo.
Yeah I do. I hate how this country is.now and has been for a very long time.
Maybe we'll own no rights either but they forgot to tell us...
Yep, we are being stripped of all our rights, bit by bit! I hate Stalinmer😠
It's almost three years since I stopped smoking 🚬 so the ban doesn't affect but it's getting to much like a Nanny State for my liking.
It will be booze and sugar next.
He's shaping up to be one of the worst Prime minister's ever and he's only been in office a few months.
It's gone to his head. He's a dictator, traitor and Bliar pulling his strings. Worse PM since Bliar. They are in it together.
and the poor ickle soul couldn't face Maggie staring down accusingly at him every day
He's gone power mad, there is memes of him online like that wee dictator in North Korea.
That will be us next, all with bad haircuts the same and feart to say anything.
😕
He reminds me of a bully, and a bully is usually a coward surrounded by yes men.
Once the yes men have had enough, he will have nothing.
He will be ousted by his own party before Christmas imo.
The problem is, who is going to take over if he is?
I have no idea, but surely can't be worse than him!