Not if they had fewer laws to enforce that didn't have victims.
You keep missing the point.
Harming others isn't tolerated. Harming yourself or others that agree to it, is.
Syl said
Nov 2 11:38 AM, 2021
But if many laws were relaxed, by your suggestion, people could be drugged up driving around without seat belts, there would be less medical care, your cities would be filthy and your roads in disrepair, your kids wouldn't be getting a proper education, and any nutter could be toting a gun thinking he was one of the magnificent 7....sounds great.
Maddog said
Nov 2 3:34 PM, 2021
Syl wrote:
But if many laws were relaxed, by your suggestion, people could be drugged up driving around without seat belts, there would be less medical care, your cities would be filthy and your roads in disrepair, your kids wouldn't be getting a proper education, and any nutter could be toting a gun thinking he was one of the magnificent 7....sounds great.
Doesn't it?
Do you realize there are many places along the scale between anarchy and authoritarianism?
It's not all or nothing. It's less or more.
Syl said
Nov 2 4:18 PM, 2021
Maybe England would be more your cup of tea then...we hardly see any police round here anymore, all the forces are skint, you would probably have more liberty than you do in the US.
Maddog said
Nov 2 4:21 PM, 2021
Syl wrote:
Maybe England would be more your cup of tea then...we hardly see any police round here anymore, all the forces are skint, you would probably have more liberty than you do in the US.
Doubtful.
Can't even walk around with a pocket knife.
Maybe your police would be more effective if they focused on people actually harming others, instead of focusing on those that aren't.
Syl said
Nov 2 4:25 PM, 2021
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maybe England would be more your cup of tea then...we hardly see any police round here anymore, all the forces are skint, you would probably have more liberty than you do in the US.
Doubtful.
Can't even walk around with a pocket knife.
Maybe your police would be more effective if they focused on people actually harming others, instead of focusing on those that aren't.
They don't seem to focus on anyone in certain parts of the country...Manchester being one of them.
Maybe if someone was in the process of being murdered one might saunter up the same day to check it out....maybe.
What is it with you and your need to carry guns and knives around,,,who are you Mad Max or something?
Anonymous said
Nov 2 4:50 PM, 2021
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maybe England would be more your cup of tea then...we hardly see any police round here anymore, all the forces are skint, you would probably have more liberty than you do in the US.
Doubtful.
Can't even walk around with a pocket knife.
Maybe your police would be more effective if they focused on people actually harming others, instead of focusing on those that aren't.
They don't seem to focus on anyone in certain parts of the country...Manchester being one of them.
Maybe if someone was in the process of being murdered one might saunter up the same day to check it out....maybe.
What is it with you and your need to carry guns and knives around,,,who are you Mad Max or something?
OK…that DID make me LMAO! I‘m now seeing Maddog in head-to-toe leathers & flashing that improbably long gun
John Doe said
Nov 2 6:03 PM, 2021
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maybe England would be more your cup of tea then...we hardly see any police round here anymore, all the forces are skint, you would probably have more liberty than you do in the US.
Doubtful.
Can't even walk around with a pocket knife.
Maybe your police would be more effective if they focused on people actually harming others, instead of focusing on those that aren't.
They don't seem to focus on anyone in certain parts of the country...Manchester being one of them.
Maybe if someone was in the process of being murdered one might saunter up the same day to check it out....maybe.
What is it with you and your need to carry guns and knives around,,,who are you Mad Max or something?
Maddog said
Nov 2 10:27 PM, 2021
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maybe England would be more your cup of tea then...we hardly see any police round here anymore, all the forces are skint, you would probably have more liberty than you do in the US.
Doubtful.
Can't even walk around with a pocket knife.
Maybe your police would be more effective if they focused on people actually harming others, instead of focusing on those that aren't.
They don't seem to focus on anyone in certain parts of the country...Manchester being one of them.
Maybe if someone was in the process of being murdered one might saunter up the same day to check it out....maybe.
What is it with you and your need to carry guns and knives around,,,who are you Mad Max or something?
Maybe.
I carry a pocked knife. Not a fucking sword.
Maddog said
Nov 2 10:28 PM, 2021
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maybe England would be more your cup of tea then...we hardly see any police round here anymore, all the forces are skint, you would probably have more liberty than you do in the US.
Doubtful.
Can't even walk around with a pocket knife.
Maybe your police would be more effective if they focused on people actually harming others, instead of focusing on those that aren't.
They don't seem to focus on anyone in certain parts of the country...Manchester being one of them.
Maybe if someone was in the process of being murdered one might saunter up the same day to check it out....maybe.
What is it with you and your need to carry guns and knives around,,,who are you Mad Max or something?
Exactly. Focus on rapists.
Digger said
Nov 3 1:25 AM, 2021
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maybe England would be more your cup of tea then...we hardly see any police round here anymore, all the forces are skint, you would probably have more liberty than you do in the US.
Doubtful.
Can't even walk around with a pocket knife.
Maybe your police would be more effective if they focused on people actually harming others, instead of focusing on those that aren't.
They don't seem to focus on anyone in certain parts of the country...Manchester being one of them.
Maybe if someone was in the process of being murdered one might saunter up the same day to check it out....maybe.
What is it with you and your need to carry guns and knives around,,,who are you Mad Max or something?
Maybe.
I carry a pocked knife. Not a fucking sword.
Syphilis or Gonorrhea?
Maddog said
Nov 3 2:48 AM, 2021
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maybe England would be more your cup of tea then...we hardly see any police round here anymore, all the forces are skint, you would probably have more liberty than you do in the US.
Doubtful.
Can't even walk around with a pocket knife.
Maybe your police would be more effective if they focused on people actually harming others, instead of focusing on those that aren't.
They don't seem to focus on anyone in certain parts of the country...Manchester being one of them.
Maybe if someone was in the process of being murdered one might saunter up the same day to check it out....maybe.
What is it with you and your need to carry guns and knives around,,,who are you Mad Max or something?
Maybe.
I carry a pocked knife. Not a fucking sword.
Syphilis or Gonorrhea?
Both! I'm a go getter!
Syl said
Nov 3 7:04 PM, 2021
It was bound to happen, after much shilly shallying about...
"Covid vaccination is to be made compulsory for the NHS’s 1.45 million staff in England, despite criticism that forcing frontline personnel to get jabbed is heavy-handed and will lead some to quit.
However, the tough new approach will not come into force until April, after Sajid Javid heeded warnings that introducing it soon could lead to an exodus of staff during the winter, the health service’s busiest time of year..
It was bound to happen, after much shilly shallying about...
"Covid vaccination is to be made compulsory for the NHS’s 1.45 million staff in England, despite criticism that forcing frontline personnel to get jabbed is heavy-handed and will lead some to quit.
However, the tough new approach will not come into force until April, after Sajid Javid heeded warnings that introducing it soon could lead to an exodus of staff during the winter, the health service’s busiest time of year..
Why would anyone trust a nurse, doctor or surgeon who refused the jab?
Because I bloody wouldn't.
Syl said
Nov 3 7:27 PM, 2021
We just don't know though....come April we will.
Maddog said
Nov 3 8:47 PM, 2021
It's not just the vaccine, but the booster and the flu jab. At least according to someone on Dogs that works for the NHS.
Shots in perpetuity it sounds like.
Maddog said
Nov 3 8:48 PM, 2021
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
It was bound to happen, after much shilly shallying about...
"Covid vaccination is to be made compulsory for the NHS’s 1.45 million staff in England, despite criticism that forcing frontline personnel to get jabbed is heavy-handed and will lead some to quit.
However, the tough new approach will not come into force until April, after Sajid Javid heeded warnings that introducing it soon could lead to an exodus of staff during the winter, the health service’s busiest time of year..
Why would anyone trust a nurse, doctor or surgeon who refused the jab?
Because I bloody wouldn't.
I wouldn't care.
Are they qualified?
Can they do the job?
Do they present you with options and let you decide?
Digger said
Nov 3 9:18 PM, 2021
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
It was bound to happen, after much shilly shallying about...
"Covid vaccination is to be made compulsory for the NHS’s 1.45 million staff in England, despite criticism that forcing frontline personnel to get jabbed is heavy-handed and will lead some to quit.
However, the tough new approach will not come into force until April, after Sajid Javid heeded warnings that introducing it soon could lead to an exodus of staff during the winter, the health service’s busiest time of year..
Why would anyone trust a nurse, doctor or surgeon who refused the jab?
Because I bloody wouldn't.
I wouldn't care.
Are they qualified?
Can they do the job?
Do they present you with options and let you decide?
Perhaps everyone will tell them to fuck off and get me a vaccinated medic. That would be funny.
John Doe said
Nov 3 9:50 PM, 2021
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
It was bound to happen, after much shilly shallying about...
"Covid vaccination is to be made compulsory for the NHS’s 1.45 million staff in England, despite criticism that forcing frontline personnel to get jabbed is heavy-handed and will lead some to quit.
However, the tough new approach will not come into force until April, after Sajid Javid heeded warnings that introducing it soon could lead to an exodus of staff during the winter, the health service’s busiest time of year..
Why would anyone trust a nurse, doctor or surgeon who refused the jab?
Because I bloody wouldn't.
I wouldn't care.
Are they qualified?
Can they do the job?
Do they present you with options and let you decide?
Perhaps everyone will tell them to fuck off and get me a vaccinated medic. That would be funny.
This.
Maddog said
Nov 3 10:27 PM, 2021
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
It was bound to happen, after much shilly shallying about...
"Covid vaccination is to be made compulsory for the NHS’s 1.45 million staff in England, despite criticism that forcing frontline personnel to get jabbed is heavy-handed and will lead some to quit.
However, the tough new approach will not come into force until April, after Sajid Javid heeded warnings that introducing it soon could lead to an exodus of staff during the winter, the health service’s busiest time of year..
You keep missing the point.
Harming others isn't tolerated. Harming yourself or others that agree to it, is.
Doesn't it?
Do you realize there are many places along the scale between anarchy and authoritarianism?
It's not all or nothing. It's less or more.
Doubtful.
Can't even walk around with a pocket knife.
Maybe your police would be more effective if they focused on people actually harming others, instead of focusing on those that aren't.
They don't seem to focus on anyone in certain parts of the country...Manchester being one of them.
Maybe if someone was in the process of being murdered one might saunter up the same day to check it out....maybe.
What is it with you and your need to carry guns and knives around,,,who are you Mad Max or something?
OK…that DID make me LMAO!
I‘m now seeing Maddog in head-to-toe leathers & flashing that improbably long gun
Maybe.
I carry a pocked knife. Not a fucking sword.
Exactly. Focus on rapists.
Syphilis or Gonorrhea?
Both! I'm a go getter!
It was bound to happen, after much shilly shallying about...
"Covid vaccination is to be made compulsory for the NHS’s 1.45 million staff in England, despite criticism that forcing frontline personnel to get jabbed is heavy-handed and will lead some to quit.
However, the tough new approach will not come into force until April, after Sajid Javid heeded warnings that introducing it soon could lead to an exodus of staff during the winter, the health service’s busiest time of year..
"
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/03/covid-jabs-to-be-compulsory-for-nhs-staff-in-england-from-april
Why would anyone trust a nurse, doctor or surgeon who refused the jab?
Because I bloody wouldn't.
Shots in perpetuity it sounds like.
I wouldn't care.
Are they qualified?
Can they do the job?
Do they present you with options and let you decide?
Perhaps everyone will tell them to fuck off and get me a vaccinated medic. That would be funny.
This.
They could, but what do your really know about the folks that treat you?
Will you insist they have flu shots too?
How many boosters?
Where does it all end?