Oh dear. Sir David Attenborough has told Markle “don’t use by name”. She apparently implied that he was endorsing her, adding some credibility to her brand.
As the great man himself has said, when observing human nature: “It’s extraordinary how self-obsessed human beings are.”
I’m glad he verbally slapped a reality check into her 😂
-- Edited by Vam on Sunday 22nd of June 2025 06:52:51 PM
Magica said
Jun 22 7:36 PM, 2025
Vam wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Oh dear. Sir David Attenborough has told Markle “don’t use by name”. She apparently implied that he was endorsing her, adding some credibility to her brand.
As the great man himself has said, when observing human nature: “It’s extraordinary how self-obsessed human beings are.”
I’m glad he verbally slapped a reality check into her 😂
-- Edited by Vam on Sunday 22nd of June 2025 06:52:51 PM
Good old David Attenborough 😁
Digger said
Jun 22 9:12 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
The above post by Digger just highlights... the actual car that killed three people, one being the most famous woman in the world, was never proven to be found.
Just going back to this point - you say the Fiat was the actual car that killed the victims, but the actual car that killed them (if we're going to blame a vehicle for it) was the one they were in. The head of the French investigating team has said that it was the Mercedes that hit the other car, not the other way round. And when you think about it, surely that's the more likely scenario, given that it was the Mercedes that was speeding at the time.
My point still stands...the fiat was never found.
And if you were the driver of that fiat, and some speeding nutter clipped your car, no doubt damaging it and possibly you in the process, why would you just drive off?
And then why, knowing the car that had clipped you was all over the worlds news, would you then not come forwards, saving two police forces and countless investigations over many years an absolute fortune?
They did find the suspected Fiat, but didn't have enough scientific or forensic evidence to confirm it was THE one. The fact that the driver not only resprayed his car that night and replaced the bumpers should have been proof along with the fact that 92 on his number plate was remembered by a witness and the dog in the back seat. But they had no evidence to prove it was him other than those coincidences. But again, perhaps its just a case of Occam's Razor.
Think about it. If they were going to knock her off that night, why use a white Fiat that stuck out like a sore thumb, with licence plates and a dog in the back seat?
Syl said
Jun 22 10:51 PM, 2025
The White Fiat was never found, with or without a dog on the back seat. You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
August 2022.
Not finding white Fiat Uno a ‘frustration’, say Diana crash investigators
Failing to track down a white Fiat Uno that may have been in the tunnel on the night that Diana, Princess of Wales was killed in a car crash is a lasting “frustration” of the French inquiry into her death, investigators have said.
Detectives from the 1997 French Brigade Criminelle tell a Channel 4 documentary, Investigating Diana: Death In Paris, that the driver could have helped to try to explain the movements of the black Mercedes she was travelling in.
Martine Monteil, head of the Brigade Criminelle, said: “The whole of the world has struggled to accept that the Princess of Wales died in a mundane accident.”
She added: “I have frustration about the Fiat Uno because I like a well-finished business.
“For sure, it’s out there. Unfortunately we don’t have it.
-- Edited by Syl on Sunday 22nd of June 2025 11:06:23 PM
Digger said
Jun 22 11:02 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
The White Fiat was never found, with or without a dog on the back seat. You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
I didn't say they found the Fiat. I said they found the suspected Fiat.
Syl said
Jun 23 12:02 AM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
The White Fiat was never found, with or without a dog on the back seat. You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
I didn't say they found the Fiat. I said they found the suspected Fiat.
In other words, they didn't find the actual Fiat.
Maddog said
Jun 23 12:28 AM, 2025
How would they ever know if it was the actual Fiat at this point? There is no DNA from the Fiat at the crash scene. Best they could ever hope for is a repaired Fiat that used to be white..
Anonymous said
Jun 23 11:12 AM, 2025
Syl wrote:
You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
Maybe not so much a case of choosing what to believe, but more a case of wanting to separate fact from fiction?
Syl said
Jun 23 11:39 AM, 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
Maybe not so much a case of choosing what to believe, but more a case of wanting to separate fact from fiction?
That would depend on if you believe everything the government tells you. If you do...then to you, they are facts.
Syl said
Jun 23 11:41 AM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
How would they ever know if it was the actual Fiat at this point? There is no DNA from the Fiat at the crash scene. Best they could ever hope for is a repaired Fiat that used to be white..
There was (according to officials) white paint from the Fiat on the Merc....so yes, if a white Fiat was involved, there would have been DNA from the car left behind.
Digger said
Jun 23 11:44 AM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
The White Fiat was never found, with or without a dog on the back seat. You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
I didn't say they found the Fiat. I said they found the suspected Fiat.
In other words, they didn't find the actual Fiat.
It could have been but not enough evidence. It happens a lot.
Digger said
Jun 23 11:46 AM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
Maybe not so much a case of choosing what to believe, but more a case of wanting to separate fact from fiction?
That would depend on if you believe everything the government tells you. If you do...then to you, they are facts.
So where are your facts that she was murdered? You have none. It's all speculation. Bit like the white Fiat.
Syl said
Jun 23 11:52 AM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
Maybe not so much a case of choosing what to believe, but more a case of wanting to separate fact from fiction?
That would depend on if you believe everything the government tells you. If you do...then to you, they are facts.
So where are your facts that she was murdered? You have none. It's all speculation. Bit like the white Fiat.
This thread is littered with counter arguments that she could have been assassinated. The whole thing was murky from the start.
Governments cover up the truth, governments get rid of people who they see to be a threat. People either blindly believe what they are told or they question it.
You believe...I dont...end of.
Magica said
Jun 23 1:15 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
Maybe not so much a case of choosing what to believe, but more a case of wanting to separate fact from fiction?
That would depend on if you believe everything the government tells you. If you do...then to you, they are facts.
So where are your facts that she was murdered? You have none. It's all speculation. Bit like the white Fiat.
This thread is littered with counter arguments that she could have been assassinated. The whole thing was murky from the start.
Governments cover up the truth, governments get rid of people who they see to be a threat. People either blindly believe what they are told or they question it.
You believe...I dont...end of.
Diana said herself
"They are planning an accident in my car to bump me off, so he can marry again."
Words to that effect.
Who knows whether it's right or wrong. I must admit I believe it, she was bumped off imo.
Anonymous said
Jun 23 3:03 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
Maybe not so much a case of choosing what to believe, but more a case of wanting to separate fact from fiction?
That would depend on if you believe everything the government tells you. If you do...then to you, they are facts.
The only fact I'm aware of is that a car crashed and the occupants died. End of. You're the one that keeps bringing up this thing about the government!
Syl said
Jun 23 4:10 PM, 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
Maybe not so much a case of choosing what to believe, but more a case of wanting to separate fact from fiction?
That would depend on if you believe everything the government tells you. If you do...then to you, they are facts.
The only fact I'm aware of is that a car crashed and the occupants died. End of. You're the one that keeps bringing up this thing about the government!
Throughout the thread you have argued that it was a simple accident...obviously if you are not sure, there is no argument, so let it go.
It gets really tedious going round in circles.
Syl said
Jun 23 4:15 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
Maybe not so much a case of choosing what to believe, but more a case of wanting to separate fact from fiction?
That would depend on if you believe everything the government tells you. If you do...then to you, they are facts.
So where are your facts that she was murdered? You have none. It's all speculation. Bit like the white Fiat.
This thread is littered with counter arguments that she could have been assassinated. The whole thing was murky from the start.
Governments cover up the truth, governments get rid of people who they see to be a threat. People either blindly believe what they are told or they question it.
You believe...I dont...end of.
Diana said herself
"They are planning an accident in my car to bump me off, so he can marry again."
Words to that effect.
Who knows whether it's right or wrong. I must admit I believe it, she was bumped off imo.
In my opinion, you are right.
I can never understand why people who are convinced it was a simple RTA, constantly argue with the people who think differently. I have no desire to change their opinions...and they certainly won't change mine.
Magica said
Jun 23 4:16 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
Maybe not so much a case of choosing what to believe, but more a case of wanting to separate fact from fiction?
That would depend on if you believe everything the government tells you. If you do...then to you, they are facts.
The only fact I'm aware of is that a car crashed and the occupants died. End of. You're the one that keeps bringing up this thing about the government!
Throughout the thread you have argued that it was a simple accident...obviously if you are not sure, there is no argument, so let it go.
It gets really tedious going round in circles.
No one is sure it's what we believe. Like you Syl, I believe she was bumped off. Never be proved she was, but equally never be proved she wasn't
Maddog said
Jun 23 5:50 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
How would they ever know if it was the actual Fiat at this point? There is no DNA from the Fiat at the crash scene. Best they could ever hope for is a repaired Fiat that used to be white..
There was (according to officials) white paint from the Fiat on the Merc....so yes, if a white Fiat was involved, there would have been DNA from the car left behind.
How would that while paint be specific to that car? All thy could tell is that it was paint used to paint white Fiats..
Maddog said
Jun 23 6:00 PM, 2025
If I had the super secret abilities to keep a plan of this magnitude secret, I would have devised a plan a whole lot more likely of success, than someone in the back seat of a Mercedes dying in a car wreck..
It almost certainly had to have the cooperation of her driver to give it a one in a 100 chance of success. He would have needed to be willing to drive head on into a wall and sacrifice his life too..
I guess it's possible. Especially if he was threatened by the reptilian people, which are about equally as plausible..
As the great man himself has said, when observing human nature: “It’s extraordinary how self-obsessed human beings are.”
I’m glad he verbally slapped a reality check into her 😂
-- Edited by Vam on Sunday 22nd of June 2025 06:52:51 PM
Good old David Attenborough 😁
They did find the suspected Fiat, but didn't have enough scientific or forensic evidence to confirm it was THE one. The fact that the driver not only resprayed his car that night and replaced the bumpers should have been proof along with the fact that 92 on his number plate was remembered by a witness and the dog in the back seat. But they had no evidence to prove it was him other than those coincidences. But again, perhaps its just a case of Occam's Razor.
Think about it. If they were going to knock her off that night, why use a white Fiat that stuck out like a sore thumb, with licence plates and a dog in the back seat?
The White Fiat was never found, with or without a dog on the back seat.
You, like many, just pick and choose the news you choose to believe.
August 2022.
Not finding white Fiat Uno a ‘frustration’, say Diana crash investigators
Failing to track down a white Fiat Uno that may have been in the tunnel on the night that Diana, Princess of Wales was killed in a car crash is a lasting “frustration” of the French inquiry into her death, investigators have said.
Detectives from the 1997 French Brigade Criminelle tell a Channel 4 documentary, Investigating Diana: Death In Paris, that the driver could have helped to try to explain the movements of the black Mercedes she was travelling in.
Martine Monteil, head of the Brigade Criminelle, said: “The whole of the world has struggled to accept that the Princess of Wales died in a mundane accident.”
She added: “I have frustration about the Fiat Uno because I like a well-finished business.
“For sure, it’s out there. Unfortunately we don’t have it.
-- Edited by Syl on Sunday 22nd of June 2025 11:06:23 PM
I didn't say they found the Fiat. I said they found the suspected Fiat.
In other words, they didn't find the actual Fiat.
Maybe not so much a case of choosing what to believe, but more a case of wanting to separate fact from fiction?
That would depend on if you believe everything the government tells you. If you do...then to you, they are facts.
There was (according to officials) white paint from the Fiat on the Merc....so yes, if a white Fiat was involved, there would have been DNA from the car left behind.
It could have been but not enough evidence. It happens a lot.
So where are your facts that she was murdered? You have none. It's all speculation. Bit like the white Fiat.
This thread is littered with counter arguments that she could have been assassinated. The whole thing was murky from the start.
Governments cover up the truth, governments get rid of people who they see to be a threat. People either blindly believe what they are told or they question it.
You believe...I dont...end of.
Diana said herself
"They are planning an accident in my car to bump me off, so he can marry again."
Words to that effect.
Who knows whether it's right or wrong. I must admit I believe it, she was bumped off imo.
The only fact I'm aware of is that a car crashed and the occupants died. End of. You're the one that keeps bringing up this thing about the government!
Throughout the thread you have argued that it was a simple accident...obviously if you are not sure, there is no argument, so let it go.
It gets really tedious going round in circles.
In my opinion, you are right.
I can never understand why people who are convinced it was a simple RTA, constantly argue with the people who think differently. I have no desire to change their opinions...and they certainly won't change mine.
No one is sure it's what we believe. Like you Syl, I believe she was bumped off. Never be proved she was, but equally never be proved she wasn't
How would that while paint be specific to that car? All thy could tell is that it was paint used to paint white Fiats..
It almost certainly had to have the cooperation of her driver to give it a one in a 100 chance of success. He would have needed to be willing to drive head on into a wall and sacrifice his life too..
I guess it's possible. Especially if he was threatened by the reptilian people, which are about equally as plausible..