Trans issues ONLY became a thing, after trump and his MAGAts specifically targeted trans people, and made them an overblown thing 🙄
Tell that to JK..
You are way too obsessed with Trump. Trans issues became a thing when people with dicks tried to invade women's spaces..
Something Blair has never tried to do..
And that‘s wrong, I agree. But it’s a stand-alone issue that should be officially legislated against, and legally settled in favour of women’s sports and rest rooms.
trump zeroed in and still bangs on and on about it ad infinitum, because he knows it’s what his base wants to hear.
Are you saying all the MAGA trans hyperbole isn’t responsible for demonising and targeting such a minuscule demographic? Just let people live their lives, ffs!
I mean, seriously, unless a trans woman tried to compete in a race against your daughter, when was the last time a transgender person impacted your life in any way? 🤷🏻♀️
He bangs on about it because 80% of the people agree with him..
It's why this thread has so many posts, and until you brought him up, none had anything to with Trump..
He doesn't need Mara Lago. He lives rent free in your head..
I think it has been pretty self evident besides myself and Avon, that posters in.the Whine are to the right politically. Nothing wrong with that but it's a tiny demographic and people who are right wing don't always agree with the concept of trans people and they are entitled to their opinion.
I don't really know where Syl and Vam stand politically and it's their right to keep that private. But I agree with Vam on this issue.
Vam said
Sep 30 10:59 PM, 2025
Happy to answer that, Fluffster
I am usually grounded Centre and, depending on the issue, I sometimes teeter slighty Left or slightly Right.
Vam said
Sep 30 11:09 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
He bangs on about it because 80% of the people agree with him..
It's why this thread has so many posts, and until you brought him up, none had anything to with Trump..
He doesn't need Mara Lago. He lives rent free in your head..
I think it has been pretty self evident besides myself and Avon, that posters in.the Whine are to the right politically. Nothing wrong with that but it's a tiny demographic and people who are right wing don't always agree with the concept of trans people and they are entitled to their opinion.
I don't really know where Syl and Vam stand politically and it's their right to keep that private. But I agree with Vam on this issue.
I wouldn’t mind, but he‘s the one who posted a clip with 2 Americans discussing trans issues.
So I commented about how I believe the transgender minority are being demonised, in America, and that I believe his American president is negatively impacting the whole issue.
Apparently, that was me going off-topic. Go figure, huh? 🤷🏻♀️
Trans issues ONLY became a thing, after trump and his MAGAts specifically targeted trans people, and made them an overblown thing 🙄
Tell that to JK..
You are way too obsessed with Trump. Trans issues became a thing when people with dicks tried to invade women's spaces..
Something Blair has never tried to do..
And that‘s wrong, I agree. But it’s a stand-alone issue that should be officially legislated against, and legally settled in favour of women’s sports and rest rooms.
trump zeroed in and still bangs on and on about it ad infinitum, because he knows it’s what his base wants to hear.
Are you saying all the MAGA trans hyperbole isn’t responsible for demonising and targeting such a minuscule demographic? Just let people live their lives, ffs!
I mean, seriously, unless a trans woman tried to compete in a race against your daughter, when was the last time a transgender person impacted your life in any way? 🤷🏻♀️
He bangs on about it because 80% of the people agree with him..
It's why this thread has so many posts, and until you brought him up, none had anything to with Trump..
He doesn't need Mara Lago. He lives rent free in your head..
I think it has been pretty self evident besides myself and Avon, that posters in.the Whine are to the right politically. Nothing wrong with that but it's a tiny demographic and people who are right wing don't always agree with the concept of trans people and they are entitled to their opinion.
I don't really know where Syl and Vam stand politically and it's their right to keep that private. But I agree with Vam on this issue.
Probably centre left, IF I had to label myself.
Maddog said
Oct 1 12:25 AM, 2025
Vam wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
He bangs on about it because 80% of the people agree with him..
It's why this thread has so many posts, and until you brought him up, none had anything to with Trump..
He doesn't need Mara Lago. He lives rent free in your head..
I think it has been pretty self evident besides myself and Avon, that posters in.the Whine are to the right politically. Nothing wrong with that but it's a tiny demographic and people who are right wing don't always agree with the concept of trans people and they are entitled to their opinion.
I don't really know where Syl and Vam stand politically and it's their right to keep that private. But I agree with Vam on this issue.
I wouldn’t mind, but he‘s the one who posted a clip with 2 Americans discussing trans issues.
So I commented about how I believe the transgender minority are being demonised, in America, and that I believe his American president is negatively impacting the whole issue.
Apparently, that was me going off-topic. Go figure, huh? 🤷🏻♀️
The transgender and the lesbian in the video don't share your opinions.
They believe the transgenders bring this shit upon them. And they sure as hell aren't doing it because of Trump.
Who put the dude with a dick in the Scottish prison?
Who defended that stupidity?
Who has been merciless in their attacks on JK?
Who has been attacking lesbians because they don't want to suck "female dick'?
Trans issues ONLY became a thing, after trump and his MAGAts specifically targeted trans people, and made them an overblown thing 🙄
Tell that to JK..
You are way too obsessed with Trump. Trans issues became a thing when people with dicks tried to invade women's spaces..
Something Blair has never tried to do..
And that‘s wrong, I agree. But it’s a stand-alone issue that should be officially legislated against, and legally settled in favour of women’s sports and rest rooms.
trump zeroed in and still bangs on and on about it ad infinitum, because he knows it’s what his base wants to hear.
Are you saying all the MAGA trans hyperbole isn’t responsible for demonising and targeting such a minuscule demographic? Just let people live their lives, ffs!
I mean, seriously, unless a trans woman tried to compete in a race against your daughter, when was the last time a transgender person impacted your life in any way? 🤷🏻♀️
Do you have to be personally affected to worry about frocked blokes encroaching/ trying to destroy women’s rights? Does it not affect you when burly fake females threaten rape, throat slitting and such when a woman voices her opinion on privacy and safety for herself and her daughters, it does me despite my not being personally involved.
Thank God there are people out there fighting for women’s safety and rights…people, I might add, that may or may not have been impacted personally.
You don’t have to experience something first hand to have concern for others’ plights.
Anonymous said
Oct 1 12:58 AM, 2025
Let’s see how those other than LGB get on now that “LGB International” has been officially launched. https://x.com/lgbinternationl/status/1969190088564252972 If the remaining alphabets are as strong and as innovative as they claim their “strong support” will still be there so there shouldn’t be any problems.
Trans issues ONLY became a thing, after trump and his MAGAts specifically targeted trans people, and made them an overblown thing 🙄
You obviously have no idea what "political movement" Blair is talking about. It's the one that attacks her even though she's a transgender..And that movement has nothing to do with MAGA. It's the same one that physically attacked her over a red hat.
Even more clear why trans issues have become such a political issue and who is pushing for it.
Vam said
Oct 1 8:59 AM, 2025
So again - in relation to what’s happening in America - I have to ask why the lawmakers in Washington aren‘t doing what they’re there for and debate transgender issues, and then pass legislation that will result in enforceable laws?
In the interim, is trump’s Executive Order being enforced?
Maddog said
Oct 1 4:11 PM, 2025
Vam wrote:
So again - in relation to what’s happening in America - I have to ask why the lawmakers in Washington aren‘t doing what they’re there for and debate transgender issues, and then pass legislation that will result in enforceable laws?
In the interim, is trump’s Executive Order being enforced?
Trump's EOs are being enforced but they don't apply to things like a high school track meet..
Those would be handled at the state or local level.
Congress has tried to pass laws regarding men in women's sports. Those efforts have failed and you can guess which party opposed it..
They just don't fucking learn..
Maddog said
Oct 1 4:14 PM, 2025
The Senate today rejected a bill attempting to amend a landmark civil rights law to exclude transgender students from nondiscrimination protections
S. 9, a version of which passed by a slim majority in the House of Representatives in January, would prohibit any school athletics program receiving federal funding from allowing transgender women and girls to participate in athletics programs designated for women and girls. The bill seeks to narrow the range of sex discrimination prohibited by laws like Title IX by defining sex “solely on a person’s reproductive biology and genetics at birth.”
He bangs on about it because 80% of the people agree with him..
It's why this thread has so many posts, and until you brought him up, none had anything to with Trump..
He doesn't need Mara Lago. He lives rent free in your head..
I think it has been pretty self evident besides myself and Avon, that posters in.the Whine are to the right politically. Nothing wrong with that but it's a tiny demographic and people who are right wing don't always agree with the concept of trans people and they are entitled to their opinion.
I don't really know where Syl and Vam stand politically and it's their right to keep that private. But I agree with Vam on this issue.
I wouldn’t mind, but he‘s the one who posted a clip with 2 Americans discussing trans issues.
So I commented about how I believe the transgender minority are being demonised, in America, and that I believe his American president is negatively impacting the whole issue.
Apparently, that was me going off-topic. Go figure, huh? 🤷🏻♀️
I don't mind Madders at all but I feel he treats female posters differently from men, he wouldn't be so picky with Avon or Red. He speaks more politely with them also. Avon treats everyone the same.
Maybe that's the southern American way. Just my opinion anyway. Obviously he respects Digs as she is the owner.
He has old fashioned values, I think.
Maddog said
Oct 1 5:05 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Vam wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
He bangs on about it because 80% of the people agree with him..
It's why this thread has so many posts, and until you brought him up, none had anything to with Trump..
He doesn't need Mara Lago. He lives rent free in your head..
I think it has been pretty self evident besides myself and Avon, that posters in.the Whine are to the right politically. Nothing wrong with that but it's a tiny demographic and people who are right wing don't always agree with the concept of trans people and they are entitled to their opinion.
I don't really know where Syl and Vam stand politically and it's their right to keep that private. But I agree with Vam on this issue.
I wouldn’t mind, but he‘s the one who posted a clip with 2 Americans discussing trans issues.
So I commented about how I believe the transgender minority are being demonised, in America, and that I believe his American president is negatively impacting the whole issue.
Apparently, that was me going off-topic. Go figure, huh? 🤷🏻♀️
I don't mind Madders at all but I feel he treats female posters differently from men, he wouldn't be so picky with Avon or Red. He speaks more politely with them also. Avon treats everyone the same.
Maybe that's the southern American way. Just my opinion anyway. Obviously he respects Digs as she is the owner.
He has old fashioned values, I think.
I don't like gossipy drama and emotional rhetoric.
Guilty as charged.
I also acknowledge that women often see things differently than men and react differently.
But my reaction and interaction isn't based on anyone's gender, but the content of their posts..
Digger said
Oct 1 5:19 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Vam wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
He bangs on about it because 80% of the people agree with him..
It's why this thread has so many posts, and until you brought him up, none had anything to with Trump..
He doesn't need Mara Lago. He lives rent free in your head..
I think it has been pretty self evident besides myself and Avon, that posters in.the Whine are to the right politically. Nothing wrong with that but it's a tiny demographic and people who are right wing don't always agree with the concept of trans people and they are entitled to their opinion.
I don't really know where Syl and Vam stand politically and it's their right to keep that private. But I agree with Vam on this issue.
I wouldn’t mind, but he‘s the one who posted a clip with 2 Americans discussing trans issues.
So I commented about how I believe the transgender minority are being demonised, in America, and that I believe his American president is negatively impacting the whole issue.
Apparently, that was me going off-topic. Go figure, huh? 🤷🏻♀️
I don't mind Madders at all but I feel he treats female posters differently from men, he wouldn't be so picky with Avon or Red. He speaks more politely with them also. Avon treats everyone the same.
Maybe that's the southern American way. Just my opinion anyway. Obviously he respects Digs as she is the owner.
He has old fashioned values, I think.
I'm not S.tooo. There's no naughty step here and you can say what you like. We don't ban people for disagreeing in a debate or shut them down. If anyone does get a ban on here they usually deserve it.
Fluffy said
Oct 1 9:16 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Vam wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
He bangs on about it because 80% of the people agree with him..
It's why this thread has so many posts, and until you brought him up, none had anything to with Trump..
He doesn't need Mara Lago. He lives rent free in your head..
I think it has been pretty self evident besides myself and Avon, that posters in.the Whine are to the right politically. Nothing wrong with that but it's a tiny demographic and people who are right wing don't always agree with the concept of trans people and they are entitled to their opinion.
I don't really know where Syl and Vam stand politically and it's their right to keep that private. But I agree with Vam on this issue.
I wouldn’t mind, but he‘s the one who posted a clip with 2 Americans discussing trans issues.
So I commented about how I believe the transgender minority are being demonised, in America, and that I believe his American president is negatively impacting the whole issue.
Apparently, that was me going off-topic. Go figure, huh? 🤷🏻♀️
I don't mind Madders at all but I feel he treats female posters differently from men, he wouldn't be so picky with Avon or Red. He speaks more politely with them also. Avon treats everyone the same.
Maybe that's the southern American way. Just my opinion anyway. Obviously he respects Digs as she is the owner.
He has old fashioned values, I think.
I don't like gossipy drama and emotional rhetoric.
Guilty as charged.
I also acknowledge that women often see things differently than men and react differently.
But my reaction and interaction isn't based on anyone's gender, but the content of their posts..
Umm. I think men have an.innate respect for each other other which women sadly do not share. Women will turn on each other, are far less loyal, stop talking to friends over petty disagreements.
I think Avon is the only man on CM who truly treats genders equally. You seem less argumentative on the rare occasions you post the two men. It's not necessarily a critique and I don't think it's even a conscious choice on your part. I'm sure if a bloke really annoyed you, you would have no qualms showing your displeasure!
Fluffy said
Oct 1 9:25 PM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Vam wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
He bangs on about it because 80% of the people agree with him..
It's why this thread has so many posts, and until you brought him up, none had anything to with Trump..
He doesn't need Mara Lago. He lives rent free in your head..
I think it has been pretty self evident besides myself and Avon, that posters in.the Whine are to the right politically. Nothing wrong with that but it's a tiny demographic and people who are right wing don't always agree with the concept of trans people and they are entitled to their opinion.
I don't really know where Syl and Vam stand politically and it's their right to keep that private. But I agree with Vam on this issue.
I wouldn’t mind, but he‘s the one who posted a clip with 2 Americans discussing trans issues.
So I commented about how I believe the transgender minority are being demonised, in America, and that I believe his American president is negatively impacting the whole issue.
Apparently, that was me going off-topic. Go figure, huh? 🤷🏻♀️
I don't mind Madders at all but I feel he treats female posters differently from men, he wouldn't be so picky with Avon or Red. He speaks more politely with them also. Avon treats everyone the same.
Maybe that's the southern American way. Just my opinion anyway. Obviously he respects Digs as she is the owner.
He has old fashioned values, I think.
I'm not S.tooo. There's no naughty step here and you can say what you like. We don't ban people for disagreeing in a debate or shut them down. If anyone does get a ban on here they usually deserve it.
Thank you for confirming that Digs, I guess I'm used to the Dogs type style of moderation. I did worry that because my political views are different I may be banned.
I understand now that you don't help forumers when others are in the wrong but you also won't stop people posting for having a different mentality. I think that's fair. If you didn't agree with the persona known as Stooo or mods they would make up a reason to ban you or make snide remarks.
I'm glad it's different here.
Anonymous said
Oct 1 9:54 PM, 2025
Netflix taking a bit of an X battering due to a kid’s prog being trans related and its creator (of the “he/they” clan) mocking Charlie “Nazi”Kirk’s murder.
Maddog said
Oct 1 10:23 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Vam wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
He bangs on about it because 80% of the people agree with him..
It's why this thread has so many posts, and until you brought him up, none had anything to with Trump..
He doesn't need Mara Lago. He lives rent free in your head..
I think it has been pretty self evident besides myself and Avon, that posters in.the Whine are to the right politically. Nothing wrong with that but it's a tiny demographic and people who are right wing don't always agree with the concept of trans people and they are entitled to their opinion.
I don't really know where Syl and Vam stand politically and it's their right to keep that private. But I agree with Vam on this issue.
I wouldn’t mind, but he‘s the one who posted a clip with 2 Americans discussing trans issues.
So I commented about how I believe the transgender minority are being demonised, in America, and that I believe his American president is negatively impacting the whole issue.
Apparently, that was me going off-topic. Go figure, huh? 🤷🏻♀️
I don't mind Madders at all but I feel he treats female posters differently from men, he wouldn't be so picky with Avon or Red. He speaks more politely with them also. Avon treats everyone the same.
Maybe that's the southern American way. Just my opinion anyway. Obviously he respects Digs as she is the owner.
He has old fashioned values, I think.
I don't like gossipy drama and emotional rhetoric.
Guilty as charged.
I also acknowledge that women often see things differently than men and react differently.
But my reaction and interaction isn't based on anyone's gender, but the content of their posts..
Umm. I think men have an.innate respect for each other other which women sadly do not share. Women will turn on each other, are far less loyal, stop talking to friends over petty disagreements.
I think Avon is the only man on CM who truly treats genders equally. You seem less argumentative on the rare occasions you post the two men. It's not necessarily a critique and I don't think it's even a conscious choice on your part. I'm sure if a bloke really annoyed you, you would have no qualms showing your displeasure!
I can assure you (and Syl can attest) that I have no problems speaking my mind to men.
In all honesty, you get more slack from me because of your gender, not less.
Avon is very fact based. My discussion with him will be different than someone who flails around with emotional rhetoric.
I think it has been pretty self evident besides myself and Avon, that posters in.the Whine are to the right politically. Nothing wrong with that but it's a tiny demographic and people who are right wing don't always agree with the concept of trans people and they are entitled to their opinion.
I don't really know where Syl and Vam stand politically and it's their right to keep that private. But I agree with Vam on this issue.
Happy to answer that, Fluffster
I am usually grounded Centre and, depending on the issue, I sometimes teeter slighty Left or slightly Right.
I wouldn’t mind, but he‘s the one who posted a clip with 2 Americans discussing trans issues.
So I commented about how I believe the transgender minority are being demonised, in America, and that I believe his American president is negatively impacting the whole issue.
Apparently, that was me going off-topic. Go figure, huh? 🤷🏻♀️
Probably centre left, IF I had to label myself.
The transgender and the lesbian in the video don't share your opinions.
They believe the transgenders bring this shit upon them. And they sure as hell aren't doing it because of Trump.
Who put the dude with a dick in the Scottish prison?
Who defended that stupidity?
Who has been merciless in their attacks on JK?
Who has been attacking lesbians because they don't want to suck "female dick'?
Do you have to be personally affected to worry about frocked blokes encroaching/ trying to destroy women’s rights? Does it not affect you when burly fake females threaten rape, throat slitting and such when a woman voices her opinion on privacy and safety for herself and her daughters, it does me despite my not being personally involved.
Thank God there are people out there fighting for women’s safety and rights…people, I might add, that may or may not have been impacted personally.
You don’t have to experience something first hand to have concern for others’ plights.
Let’s see how those other than LGB get on now that “LGB International” has been officially launched. https://x.com/lgbinternationl/status/1969190088564252972
If the remaining alphabets are as strong and as innovative as they claim their “strong support” will still be there so there shouldn’t be any problems.
You obviously have no idea what "political movement" Blair is talking about. It's the one that attacks her even though she's a transgender..And that movement has nothing to do with MAGA. It's the same one that physically attacked her over a red hat.
It's clear who is pushing issues against Blair.
Even more clear why trans issues have become such a political issue and who is pushing for it.
So again - in relation to what’s happening in America - I have to ask why the lawmakers in Washington aren‘t doing what they’re there for and debate transgender issues, and then pass legislation that will result in enforceable laws?
In the interim, is trump’s Executive Order being enforced?
Trump's EOs are being enforced but they don't apply to things like a high school track meet..
Those would be handled at the state or local level.
Congress has tried to pass laws regarding men in women's sports. Those efforts have failed and you can guess which party opposed it..
They just don't fucking learn..
The Senate today rejected a bill attempting to amend a landmark civil rights law to exclude transgender students from nondiscrimination protections
S. 9, a version of which passed by a slim majority in the House of Representatives in January, would prohibit any school athletics program receiving federal funding from allowing transgender women and girls to participate in athletics programs designated for women and girls. The bill seeks to narrow the range of sex discrimination prohibited by laws like Title IX by defining sex “solely on a person’s reproductive biology and genetics at birth.”
www.aclu.org/press-releases/senate-rejects-bill-excluding-transgender-students-from-school-sports
I don't mind Madders at all but I feel he treats female posters differently from men, he wouldn't be so picky with Avon or Red. He speaks more politely with them also. Avon treats everyone the same.
Maybe that's the southern American way. Just my opinion anyway. Obviously he respects Digs as she is the owner.
He has old fashioned values, I think.
I don't like gossipy drama and emotional rhetoric.
Guilty as charged.
I also acknowledge that women often see things differently than men and react differently.
But my reaction and interaction isn't based on anyone's gender, but the content of their posts..
I'm not S.tooo. There's no naughty step here and you can say what you like. We don't ban people for disagreeing in a debate or shut them down. If anyone does get a ban on here they usually deserve it.
Umm. I think men have an.innate respect for each other other which women sadly do not share. Women will turn on each other, are far less loyal, stop talking to friends over petty disagreements.
I think Avon is the only man on CM who truly treats genders equally. You seem less argumentative on the rare occasions you post the two men. It's not necessarily a critique and I don't think it's even a conscious choice on your part. I'm sure if a bloke really annoyed you, you would have no qualms showing your displeasure!
Thank you for confirming that Digs, I guess I'm used to the Dogs type style of moderation. I did worry that because my political views are different I may be banned.
I understand now that you don't help forumers when others are in the wrong but you also won't stop people posting for having a different mentality. I think that's fair. If you didn't agree with the persona known as Stooo or mods they would make up a reason to ban you or make snide remarks.
I'm glad it's different here.
Netflix taking a bit of an X battering due to a kid’s prog being trans related and its creator (of the “he/they” clan) mocking Charlie “Nazi”Kirk’s murder.
I can assure you (and Syl can attest) that I have no problems speaking my mind to men.
In all honesty, you get more slack from me because of your gender, not less.
Avon is very fact based. My discussion with him will be different than someone who flails around with emotional rhetoric.