Governments might be rubbish at keeping secrets but it would have nothing to do with government and everything to do with intelligence services who's business is secrets.
How many secrets have governments kept secret Maddog?
How many have near as damn it unravelled then a few deaths and plausible deniability takes over.
Syl said
Sep 2 10:51 PM, 2024
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
The most famous woman in the world is killed in a car crash....and the police couldn't even find the car that they allegedly clipped. Joe Bloggs is involved in a RTA and doesn't hang around... the odds are they are caught, and that's without the involvement of police forces and investigators from around the globe.
Not far fetched at all....
How many people do you think would have had to be involved to pull this off?
It would probably have required cooperation from the French Government too.
I believe, that someone would have sang by now..
Its the same thing with 911, Kennedy and the moon landings..
Maybe not that many.
I imagine when governments decide to bump someone off, the less people who know about it the better.
Magica said
Sep 2 10:57 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
The most famous woman in the world is killed in a car crash....and the police couldn't even find the car that they allegedly clipped. Joe Bloggs is involved in a RTA and doesn't hang around... the odds are they are caught, and that's without the involvement of police forces and investigators from around the globe.
Not far fetched at all....
How many people do you think would have had to be involved to pull this off?
It would probably have required cooperation from the French Government too.
I believe, that someone would have sang by now..
Its the same thing with 911, Kennedy and the moon landings..
Maybe not that many.
I imagine when governments decide to bump someone off, the less people who know about it the better.
I think it would be a very tight circle. Probably just 5 people could do this.
Maddog said
Sep 3 1:12 AM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
The most famous woman in the world is killed in a car crash....and the police couldn't even find the car that they allegedly clipped. Joe Bloggs is involved in a RTA and doesn't hang around... the odds are they are caught, and that's without the involvement of police forces and investigators from around the globe.
Not far fetched at all....
How many people do you think would have had to be involved to pull this off?
It would probably have required cooperation from the French Government too.
I believe, that someone would have sang by now..
Its the same thing with 911, Kennedy and the moon landings..
Maybe not that many.
I imagine when governments decide to bump someone off, the less people who know about it the better.
I don't think someone trying to control the situation would go to another country to kill someone.
Too many eyeballs you can't control.
Also, this car crash probably shouldn't have even been lethal.
Not a very good way to make sure someone actually dies..
Syl said
Sep 3 1:25 AM, 2024
In my opinion it was a hurried job.
She had recently been called a loosen cannon, then she told reporters she was about to make a big announcement, it's possible she was shut up before she could.
All speculation, but I was then and still am, convinced she was murdered by the 'establishment'.
Being called a conspiracy theorist is similar to being called a racist, just words designed to shut people up when they give their often valid opinion.
Maddog said
Sep 3 2:39 AM, 2024
Syl wrote:
In my opinion it was a hurried job. She had recently been called a loosen cannon, then she told reporters she was about to make a big announcement, it's possible she was shut up before she could.
All speculation, but I was then and still am, convinced she was murdered by the 'establishment'.
Being called a conspiracy theorist is similar to being called a racist, just words designed to shut people up when they give their often valid opinion.
Who is the establishment?
Surely there has to be a group of people that you think sat down and cooked this up..
And I don't think being called a conspiracy theorists is the same as being called a racist..
You're actually admitting outright that there was a conspiracy to kill her. It's sorta a self imposed label unlike someone calling you a racist.
I will admit, I require proof before I make many assumptions. It's part of me in general but also required of me for work so I'm predisposed to not speculate about things like this..
Syl said
Sep 3 12:33 PM, 2024
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
In my opinion it was a hurried job. She had recently been called a loosen cannon, then she told reporters she was about to make a big announcement, it's possible she was shut up before she could.
All speculation, but I was then and still am, convinced she was murdered by the 'establishment'.
Being called a conspiracy theorist is similar to being called a racist, just words designed to shut people up when they give their often valid opinion.
Who is the establishment?
Surely there has to be a group of people that you think sat down and cooked this up..
And I don't think being called a conspiracy theorists is the same as being called a racist..
You're actually admitting outright that there was a conspiracy to kill her. It's sorta a self imposed label unlike someone calling you a racist.
I will admit, I require proof before I make many assumptions. It's part of me in general but also required of me for work so I'm predisposed to not speculate about things like this..
Who is the establishment? Who really knows? Part government, part Secret Service, I'm sure most countries have select groups that operate undercover.
Diana's butler claimed he was warned by the Queen to take care, there were 'Dark Forces' at work. Whether she said that or not, I don't think anyone can doubt that there are.
Conspiracies are real like you say, calling someone a conspiracy theorist is more often used to imply they have a vivid imagination at work, a way to shut people up, just as (like I said) the word racist was bandied about to shut people up.
It's impossible for ordinary people to prove whether she was murdered or not, adding up the events that led to her death, the crash itself, but more importantly the way it was handled, both at the time and afterwards, leads me to believe she was murdered, or more accurately assassinated.
jackb said
Sep 3 12:38 PM, 2024
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
The most famous woman in the world is killed in a car crash....and the police couldn't even find the car that they allegedly clipped. Joe Bloggs is involved in a RTA and doesn't hang around... the odds are they are caught, and that's without the involvement of police forces and investigators from around the globe.
Not far fetched at all....
How many people do you think would have had to be involved to pull this off?
It would probably have required cooperation from the French Government too.
I believe, that someone would have sang by now..
Its the same thing with 911, Kennedy and the moon landings..
Maybe not that many.
I imagine when governments decide to bump someone off, the less people who know about it the better.
I don't think someone trying to control the situation would go to another country to kill someone.
Too many eyeballs you can't control.
Also, this car crash probably shouldn't have even been lethal.
Not a very good way to make sure someone actually dies..
Maybe she didn't die in the crash but was killed at the scene?
Vita said
Sep 3 1:26 PM, 2024
Tracey Connelly the mother of 'Baby P' has been recalled to prison.
Throw the key away on this monster, the torture that wee boy went through was beyond belief.
Vita said
Sep 3 1:28 PM, 2024
Ryan Parker viciously assaulted his girlfriend by punching and kicking her outside her home last year.
He received instant Karma from her neighbours...the heard the commotion and knocked the daylights out him.
Ryan Parker viciously assaulted his girlfriend by punching and kicking her outside her home last year.
He received instant Karma from her neighbours...the heard the commotion and knocked the daylights out him.
Kudos to the neighbours who meted out more “justice” for the victim than the courts will ever offer. I just wish every paedo got the same street justice also.
Maddog said
Sep 3 3:47 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
In my opinion it was a hurried job. She had recently been called a loosen cannon, then she told reporters she was about to make a big announcement, it's possible she was shut up before she could.
All speculation, but I was then and still am, convinced she was murdered by the 'establishment'.
Being called a conspiracy theorist is similar to being called a racist, just words designed to shut people up when they give their often valid opinion.
Who is the establishment?
Surely there has to be a group of people that you think sat down and cooked this up..
And I don't think being called a conspiracy theorists is the same as being called a racist..
You're actually admitting outright that there was a conspiracy to kill her. It's sorta a self imposed label unlike someone calling you a racist.
I will admit, I require proof before I make many assumptions. It's part of me in general but also required of me for work so I'm predisposed to not speculate about things like this..
Who is the establishment? Who really knows? Part government, part Secret Service, I'm sure most countries have select groups that operate undercover.
Diana's butler claimed he was warned by the Queen to take care, there were 'Dark Forces' at work. Whether she said that or not, I don't think anyone can doubt that there are.
Conspiracies are real like you say, calling someone a conspiracy theorist is more often used to imply they have a vivid imagination at work, a way to shut people up, just as (like I said) the word racist was bandied about to shut people up.
It's impossible for ordinary people to prove whether she was murdered or not, adding up the events that led to her death, the crash itself, but more importantly the way it was handled, both at the time and afterwards, leads me to believe she was murdered, or more accurately assassinated.
But it's not impossible for very powerful people to prove other powerful people have done things. This is why nothing stays secret for long. Too many competing forces vying for power and influence..
The biggest problem is that when the events are explained to people (Princess Di, Kennedy, 911, Covid) people have already made up their minds and aren't ever going to change them, because all new information will be called part of the conspiracy.
Its a never ending loop..
Maddog said
Sep 3 3:49 PM, 2024
jackb wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
The most famous woman in the world is killed in a car crash....and the police couldn't even find the car that they allegedly clipped. Joe Bloggs is involved in a RTA and doesn't hang around... the odds are they are caught, and that's without the involvement of police forces and investigators from around the globe.
Not far fetched at all....
How many people do you think would have had to be involved to pull this off?
It would probably have required cooperation from the French Government too.
I believe, that someone would have sang by now..
Its the same thing with 911, Kennedy and the moon landings..
Maybe not that many.
I imagine when governments decide to bump someone off, the less people who know about it the better.
I don't think someone trying to control the situation would go to another country to kill someone.
Too many eyeballs you can't control.
Also, this car crash probably shouldn't have even been lethal.
Not a very good way to make sure someone actually dies..
Maybe she didn't die in the crash but was killed at the scene?
Maybe she's not dead and her and Dodi are living in Argentina with Hitlers grandkids?
Syl said
Sep 3 5:41 PM, 2024
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
In my opinion it was a hurried job. She had recently been called a loosen cannon, then she told reporters she was about to make a big announcement, it's possible she was shut up before she could.
All speculation, but I was then and still am, convinced she was murdered by the 'establishment'.
Being called a conspiracy theorist is similar to being called a racist, just words designed to shut people up when they give their often valid opinion.
Who is the establishment?
Surely there has to be a group of people that you think sat down and cooked this up..
And I don't think being called a conspiracy theorists is the same as being called a racist..
You're actually admitting outright that there was a conspiracy to kill her. It's sorta a self imposed label unlike someone calling you a racist.
I will admit, I require proof before I make many assumptions. It's part of me in general but also required of me for work so I'm predisposed to not speculate about things like this..
Who is the establishment? Who really knows? Part government, part Secret Service, I'm sure most countries have select groups that operate undercover.
Diana's butler claimed he was warned by the Queen to take care, there were 'Dark Forces' at work. Whether she said that or not, I don't think anyone can doubt that there are.
Conspiracies are real like you say, calling someone a conspiracy theorist is more often used to imply they have a vivid imagination at work, a way to shut people up, just as (like I said) the word racist was bandied about to shut people up.
It's impossible for ordinary people to prove whether she was murdered or not, adding up the events that led to her death, the crash itself, but more importantly the way it was handled, both at the time and afterwards, leads me to believe she was murdered, or more accurately assassinated.
But it's not impossible for very powerful people to prove other powerful people have done things. This is why nothing stays secret for long. Too many competing forces vying for power and influence..
The biggest problem is that when the events are explained to people (Princess Di, Kennedy, 911, Covid) people have already made up their minds and aren't ever going to change them, because all new information will be called part of the conspiracy.
Its a never ending loop..
But was Kennedys assassination ever solved one way or the other...or MM's death come to that.
I always thought 911 was just as reported, and Covid did exist and was killing people far worse than any flu had ... I take your point that some people will never believe either was as they seemed.
Maddog said
Sep 4 12:49 AM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
In my opinion it was a hurried job. She had recently been called a loosen cannon, then she told reporters she was about to make a big announcement, it's possible she was shut up before she could.
All speculation, but I was then and still am, convinced she was murdered by the 'establishment'.
Being called a conspiracy theorist is similar to being called a racist, just words designed to shut people up when they give their often valid opinion.
Who is the establishment?
Surely there has to be a group of people that you think sat down and cooked this up..
And I don't think being called a conspiracy theorists is the same as being called a racist..
You're actually admitting outright that there was a conspiracy to kill her. It's sorta a self imposed label unlike someone calling you a racist.
I will admit, I require proof before I make many assumptions. It's part of me in general but also required of me for work so I'm predisposed to not speculate about things like this..
Who is the establishment? Who really knows? Part government, part Secret Service, I'm sure most countries have select groups that operate undercover.
Diana's butler claimed he was warned by the Queen to take care, there were 'Dark Forces' at work. Whether she said that or not, I don't think anyone can doubt that there are.
Conspiracies are real like you say, calling someone a conspiracy theorist is more often used to imply they have a vivid imagination at work, a way to shut people up, just as (like I said) the word racist was bandied about to shut people up.
It's impossible for ordinary people to prove whether she was murdered or not, adding up the events that led to her death, the crash itself, but more importantly the way it was handled, both at the time and afterwards, leads me to believe she was murdered, or more accurately assassinated.
But it's not impossible for very powerful people to prove other powerful people have done things. This is why nothing stays secret for long. Too many competing forces vying for power and influence..
The biggest problem is that when the events are explained to people (Princess Di, Kennedy, 911, Covid) people have already made up their minds and aren't ever going to change them, because all new information will be called part of the conspiracy.
Its a never ending loop..
But was Kennedys assassination ever solved one way or the other...or MM's death come to that.
I always thought 911 was just as reported, and Covid did exist and was killing people far worse than any flu had ... I take your point that some people will never believe either was as they seemed.
The Kennedy assassination had the Warren report and a few other inquiries. It's been officially solved for decades..
People either choose to believe that report or they don't.
Syl said
Sep 4 12:56 AM, 2024
Yes, people can believe what the state tells them is true ... or not.
Anonymous said
Sep 4 3:29 PM, 2024
Raygun, breaker extraordinaire, “has apologised to the nation’s breakdancing community for the “backlash” they have experienced following her controversial routine in Paris…”https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg54k40857o
(but no apologies to the rest of the world who witnessed the farce)
Vita said
Sep 6 1:41 AM, 2024
Scott Hastings wife has committed suicide.
Scott was a Scottish Rugby Legend and the younger brother of Big Gav.
Jenny had struggled with her mental health for years.
The couple had two children, Corey and Kerry Anne.
Coastguards have been searching for her in the Firth of Forth.
Governments might be rubbish at keeping secrets but it would have nothing to do with government and everything to do with intelligence services who's business is secrets.
How many secrets have governments kept secret Maddog?
How many have near as damn it unravelled then a few deaths and plausible deniability takes over.
Maybe not that many.
I imagine when governments decide to bump someone off, the less people who know about it the better.
I think it would be a very tight circle. Probably just 5 people could do this.
I don't think someone trying to control the situation would go to another country to kill someone.
Too many eyeballs you can't control.
Also, this car crash probably shouldn't have even been lethal.
Not a very good way to make sure someone actually dies..
She had recently been called a loosen cannon, then she told reporters she was about to make a big announcement, it's possible she was shut up before she could.
All speculation, but I was then and still am, convinced she was murdered by the 'establishment'.
Being called a conspiracy theorist is similar to being called a racist, just words designed to shut people up when they give their often valid opinion.
Who is the establishment?
Surely there has to be a group of people that you think sat down and cooked this up..
And I don't think being called a conspiracy theorists is the same as being called a racist..
You're actually admitting outright that there was a conspiracy to kill her. It's sorta a self imposed label unlike someone calling you a racist.
I will admit, I require proof before I make many assumptions. It's part of me in general but also required of me for work so I'm predisposed to not speculate about things like this..
Who is the establishment? Who really knows? Part government, part Secret Service, I'm sure most countries have select groups that operate undercover.
Diana's butler claimed he was warned by the Queen to take care, there were 'Dark Forces' at work. Whether she said that or not, I don't think anyone can doubt that there are.
Conspiracies are real like you say, calling someone a conspiracy theorist is more often used to imply they have a vivid imagination at work, a way to shut people up, just as (like I said) the word racist was bandied about to shut people up.
It's impossible for ordinary people to prove whether she was murdered or not, adding up the events that led to her death, the crash itself, but more importantly the way it was handled, both at the time and afterwards, leads me to believe she was murdered, or more accurately assassinated.
Maybe she didn't die in the crash but was killed at the scene?
Tracey Connelly the mother of 'Baby P' has been recalled to prison.
Throw the key away on this monster, the torture that wee boy went through was beyond belief.
Ryan Parker viciously assaulted his girlfriend by punching and kicking her outside her home last year.
He received instant Karma from her neighbours...the heard the commotion and knocked the daylights out him.
But it's not impossible for very powerful people to prove other powerful people have done things. This is why nothing stays secret for long. Too many competing forces vying for power and influence..
The biggest problem is that when the events are explained to people (Princess Di, Kennedy, 911, Covid) people have already made up their minds and aren't ever going to change them, because all new information will be called part of the conspiracy.
Its a never ending loop..
Maybe she's not dead and her and Dodi are living in Argentina with Hitlers grandkids?
But was Kennedys assassination ever solved one way or the other...or MM's death come to that.
I always thought 911 was just as reported, and Covid did exist and was killing people far worse than any flu had ... I take your point that some people will never believe either was as they seemed.
The Kennedy assassination had the Warren report and a few other inquiries. It's been officially solved for decades..
People either choose to believe that report or they don't.
Raygun, breaker extraordinaire, “has apologised to the nation’s breakdancing community for the “backlash” they have experienced following her controversial routine in Paris…” https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg54k40857o
(but no apologies to the rest of the world who witnessed the farce)
Scott Hastings wife has committed suicide.
Scott was a Scottish Rugby Legend and the younger brother of Big Gav.
Jenny had struggled with her mental health for years.
The couple had two children, Corey and Kerry Anne.
Coastguards have been searching for her in the Firth of Forth.
Tragic. She looks so happy in that photo.
She must have been so disturbed to end her life and leave her two young kids .