I voted to stay and nothing I have seen since has changed my mind - quite the contrary - look at that dumb, willfully evil prick in the Whitehouse, without the might of Europe we are now his little toys to do anything the moronic scumbag pleases.
Northern Europe is still the flickering, but dying light in a world of superstitious darkness.
So thanks folks.
Another shut-in bemoaning other people's choices. You need to go back to DS it is full of shut-ins who don't work and never go anywhere either in the UK or abroad anyway. If you went out into the big wide world you would actually see nothing changed at all. If you went abroad to the Europe you love so much you would see crumbling economies and people who want out of the EU as its crippling them. There are riots everywhere over the EU all over Europe that shut-ins don't see as they only watch and read things that agree with them.
We are not leaving Europe we are leaving a corrupt governing body, we are still part of Europe, always were and always will be. Do you really believe Europe will stop buying things from us or selling things to us? Do you really believe they will want to make it harder for us to visit them when they depend on UK money? If you do you are not very bright just another scared shut-in telling those who voted for their own reasons "Thanks for that" like they did something personally wrong to you. Those on DS are the same, fucking idiots.
Yes I know I'm just a cowardly anon and you won't believe a word, others here will know I am right, as they too travel outside their own country and watch a wider range of media. Strangely those who agree with you are not cowardly anons.
JD made a valid point but you chose to not only dismiss it but insult him needlessly rendering your own little rant immature and pointless.
You too, made valuable points, but unfortunately these were lost and seemed secondary to your gleeful desire to insult and respond in a personal manner.
The only reason Guest posts are so readily dismissed is because some, like yourself, are so giddy in your pursuit to mock the person you are responding to.
The on topic points you manage to make may well hold some merit but as your post is needlessly agenda driven folk can't be bothered to consider your viewpoint.
Do give it a rest. JD made no point at all only to once again berate other people choices and to sprout nonsense about America You always say about others jumping into arguments and yet there you are as always putting yourself once again bang in the middle of someone else's point of view. I am sick to the back teeth of people like him acting like they are a superior being for how they voted. I'm also sick of you trying to direct and control this section. Do you do the same upstairs? Do you make everything there your business?
Used to be nice coming here for a read but now it has a guard dog and all we can hear is that barking orders.
Yes, I'm sure it was nice for you, because you got to bark insults at people. You're at it again. I said you had valid points worth considering, but that doesn't fit your agenda so you choose to pretend it wasn't said.
I stick up for my friends, the "forum facade "as I call it of not standing by folk when Anons churn out crap to people they get on with and everyone acting like a robot posting the socially accepted clichés doesn't sit well with me. Frankly it reminds me of highschool.
You are a Guest who likes to personally insult folk behind a proxy so no one finds out who you are... You wouldn't respect a person like yourself either.
-- Edited by Georgia x on Sunday 26th of January 2020 01:49:11 PM
I don't care if you think I had valid points, your opinion is nothing to me but a wall of boring noise. I didn't post here before just come read with my morning cuppa.
So why comment if you don't actually care?
I hope you enjoyed your cuppa.
Jobless Oddball said
Jan 26 7:16 PM, 2020
Anonymous said
Jan 26 9:20 PM, 2020
Whitehouse that was a top shelf magazine I believe.
One of John Doe's favourites?
John Doe said
Jan 26 9:37 PM, 2020
Anonymous wrote:
Whitehouse that was a top shelf magazine I believe.
One of John Doe's favourites?
Nah far too classy for me - Razzle did the job!
Georgia x said
Jan 27 1:53 AM, 2020
Anonymous wrote:
Georgia x wrote:
Jobless Oddball wrote:
"You get the politicians you deserve"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm surprised to say this JO..but I agree with you.
Interesting. In what way would you say you deserve Boris and his government?
As you have addressed me regarding the actual topic and without insult Guest I shall answer.
I don't feel I do deserve it nor anyone who voted for a left wing party.
I think the bigots who want the brown faces they see to decrease and are on low incomes, both reliant on public services and the NHS, who still voted Tory will get what they deserve. But that doesn't mean I'm gleeful about it. It really is turkeys voting for Christmas, excuse the cliché.
The blinkered electorate's who opted for a government they know only cares about the elite and treats the NHS with appalling disdain (because it's underlying desire is to privatise it akin to America's glorious system..!) is the individual who I truly believe will reap what they sew. They believed the scare mongering, right wing propoganda regarding immigration because it supported their own bigoted mindset,
The NHS is the envy of many countries yet this government can pay for private health care so they don't care about giving it the funding it so desperately needs. We have so so much to be grateful for . The NHS employs many immigrants yes, who are willing to work long hours for meagre pay in the menial occupations - jobs considered too dirty, too difficult and frankly too much bother for workshy youths born and bred here.
Without the professional Immigrants working tirelessly in the NHS this country would be woefully worse off. We should be thanking them, not demonising them or attempting to get rid of them.
All this rubbish about immigrants coming here for benefits..only 1% of benefit claimants do not meet the criteria for benefit received. The media has the malleable and not so bright believing immigrants here are stealing jobs and benefits, Infact they do neither. They are desperately needed in the NHS as I stated, they pay their taxes, they contribute-far more than "White Dee "from Benefits Street and her ilk does , yet where is the contempt for these people?
It is that type of not particularly academic individual who has long harboured an underlying prejudice who has voted Tory that frustrate and annoy me. Is is them that have voted for people who despise them and view them as mere proles, will attempt to make their lives considerably more miserable by reducing funding for public services
Cameron referred to residents in Tottenham as "animals" in one speech he gave and I will never forget that sneer of disgust.
The sea of white chubby faces in expensive ill fitting suits are completely out of touch with reality, but that is no concern of theirs. Their comfy plush life given to them gladly by the electorate is set to continue.
The uneducated want division due to bigotry but if they think the Park Lane porkers in power will come to their aid, and I realky think they do, then they are sadly mistaken.
Anonymous said
Jan 27 5:14 AM, 2020
As you have addressed me regarding the actual topic and without insult Guest I shall answer.
You reply to everyone insult or not you daft bint even posts not address to you. Everyone gets your opinion on everything like it or not.
Anonymous said
Jan 27 5:41 AM, 2020
Georgia x wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Georgia x wrote:
Jobless Oddball wrote:
"You get the politicians you deserve"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm surprised to say this JO..but I agree with you.
Interesting. In what way would you say you deserve Boris and his government?
As you have addressed me regarding the actual topic and without insult Guest I shall answer.
I don't feel I do deserve it nor anyone who voted for a left wing party.
I think the bigots who want the brown faces they see to decrease and are on low incomes, both reliant on public services and the NHS, who still voted Tory will get what they deserve. But that doesn't mean I'm gleeful about it. It really is turkeys voting for Christmas, excuse the cliché.
The blinkered electorate's who opted for a government they know only cares about the elite and treats the NHS with appalling disdain (because it's underlying desire is to privatise it akin to America's glorious system..!) is the individual who I truly believe will reap what they sew. They believed the scare mongering, right wing propoganda regarding immigration because it supported their own bigoted mindset,
The NHS is the envy of many countries yet this government can pay for private health care so they don't care about giving it the funding it so desperately needs. We have so so much to be grateful for . The NHS employs many immigrants yes, who are willing to work long hours for meagre pay in the menial occupations - jobs considered too dirty, too difficult and frankly too much bother for workshy youths born and bred here.
Without the professional Immigrants working tirelessly in the NHS this country would be woefully worse off. We should be thanking them, not demonising them or attempting to get rid of them.
All this rubbish about immigrants coming here for benefits..only 1% of benefit claimants do not meet the criteria for benefit received. The media has the malleable and not so bright believing immigrants here are stealing jobs and benefits, Infact they do neither. They are desperately needed in the NHS as I stated, they pay their taxes, they contribute-far more than "White Dee "from Benefits Street and her ilk does , yet where is the contempt for these people?
It is that type of not particularly academic individual who has long harboured an underlying prejudice who has voted Tory that frustrate and annoy me. Is is them that have voted for people who despise them and view them as mere proles, will attempt to make their lives considerably more miserable by reducing funding for public services
Cameron referred to residents in Tottenham as "animals" in one speech he gave and I will never forget that sneer of disgust.
The sea of white chubby faces in expensive ill fitting suits are completely out of touch with reality, but that is no concern of theirs. Their comfy plush life given to them gladly by the electorate is set to continue.
The uneducated want division due to bigotry but if they think the Park Lane porkers in power will come to their aid, and I realky think they do, then they are sadly mistaken.
But you said you agreed with JO. What you mean, is, you don't agree with JO
I voted to stay and nothing I have seen since has changed my mind - quite the contrary - look at that dumb, willfully evil prick in the Whitehouse, without the might of Europe we are now his little toys to do anything the moronic scumbag pleases.
Northern Europe is still the flickering, but dying light in a world of superstitious darkness.
So thanks folks.
Another shut-in bemoaning other people's choices. You need to go back to DS it is full of shut-ins who don't work and never go anywhere either in the UK or abroad anyway. If you went out into the big wide world you would actually see nothing changed at all. If you went abroad to the Europe you love so much you would see crumbling economies and people who want out of the EU as its crippling them. There are riots everywhere over the EU all over Europe that shut-ins don't see as they only watch and read things that agree with them.
We are not leaving Europe we are leaving a corrupt governing body, we are still part of Europe, always were and always will be. Do you really believe Europe will stop buying things from us or selling things to us? Do you really believe they will want to make it harder for us to visit them when they depend on UK money? If you do you are not very bright just another scared shut-in telling those who voted for their own reasons "Thanks for that" like they did something personally wrong to you. Those on DS are the same, fucking idiots.
Yes I know I'm just a cowardly anon and you won't believe a word, others here will know I am right, as they too travel outside their own country and watch a wider range of media. Strangely those who agree with you are not cowardly anons.
JD made a valid point but you chose to not only dismiss it but insult him needlessly rendering your own little rant immature and pointless.
You too, made valuable points, but unfortunately these were lost and seemed secondary to your gleeful desire to insult and respond in a personal manner.
The only reason Guest posts are so readily dismissed is because some, like yourself, are so giddy in your pursuit to mock the person you are responding to.
The on topic points you manage to make may well hold some merit but as your post is needlessly agenda driven folk can't be bothered to consider your viewpoint.
Do give it a rest. JD made no point at all only to once again berate other people choices and to sprout nonsense about America You always say about others jumping into arguments and yet there you are as always putting yourself once again bang in the middle of someone else's point of view. I am sick to the back teeth of people like him acting like they are a superior being for how they voted. I'm also sick of you trying to direct and control this section. Do you do the same upstairs? Do you make everything there your business?
Used to be nice coming here for a read but now it has a guard dog and all we can hear is that barking orders.
Yes, I'm sure it was nice for you, because you got to bark insults at people. You're at it again. I said you had valid points worth considering, but that doesn't fit your agenda so you choose to pretend it wasn't said.
I stick up for my friends, the "forum facade "as I call it of not standing by folk when Anons churn out crap to people they get on with and everyone acting like a robot posting the socially accepted clichés doesn't sit well with me. Frankly it reminds me of highschool.
You are a Guest who likes to personally insult folk behind a proxy so no one finds out who you are... You wouldn't respect a person like yourself either.
-- Edited by Georgia x on Sunday 26th of January 2020 01:49:11 PM
I don't care if you think I had valid points, your opinion is nothing to me but a wall of boring noise. I didn't post here before just come read with my morning cuppa.
So why comment if you don't actually care?
I hope you enjoyed your cuppa.
You are not the brightest of people, are you? I would explain what the other anon meant but feel that would also go over your head.
Anonymous said
Jan 27 6:42 AM, 2020
Reap what you SOW.
Text said
Jan 27 12:41 PM, 2020
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
No.
I voted to stay and nothing I have seen since has changed my mind - quite the contrary - look at that dumb, willfully evil prick in the Whitehouse, without the might of Europe we are now his little toys to do anything the moronic scumbag pleases.
Northern Europe is still the flickering, but dying light in a world of superstitious darkness.
So thanks folks.
Another shut-in bemoaning other people's choices. You need to go back to DS it is full of shut-ins who don't work and never go anywhere either in the UK or abroad anyway. If you went out into the big wide world you would actually see nothing changed at all. If you went abroad to the Europe you love so much you would see crumbling economies and people who want out of the EU as its crippling them. There are riots everywhere over the EU all over Europe that shut-ins don't see as they only watch and read things that agree with them.
We are not leaving Europe we are leaving a corrupt governing body, we are still part of Europe, always were and always will be. Do you really believe Europe will stop buying things from us or selling things to us? Do you really believe they will want to make it harder for us to visit them when they depend on UK money? If you do you are not very bright just another scared shut-in telling those who voted for their own reasons "Thanks for that" like they did something personally wrong to you. Those on DS are the same, fucking idiots.
Yes I know I'm just a cowardly anon and you won't believe a word, others here will know I am right, as they too travel outside their own country and watch a wider range of media. Strangely those who agree with you are not cowardly anons.
To be fair to JD, he wasn't the one who brought up the subject of Brexit. All he did was reply to a question asked by the guest who made the thread. JD replied a in a civil way, without any insults, so what has he done wrong - apart from posting an opinion that you clearly disagree with? There are insults in this thread but they are not from him lol!
Text said
Jan 27 12:59 PM, 2020
As for Georgia she does precisely what people are supposed to do on forums - she posts opinions!1 If her opinions are interpreted as her ''barking orders at people'' then this means that everyone who posts their viewpoint or makes suggestions is also barking orders. It means the very person telling her to back off, is barking out orders too. Can you see how this works?
No one is forced to read her posts let alone obey the orders she allegedly barks out. People can completely ignore her posts if need be.
I don't agree with everything she says, she is more leftwing/liberal than I am. But at least she uses logic, reason and facts and goes into meticulous detail, to explain her viewpoints. Best of all she does not pick & choose who to criticise. She criticises me if she thinks I've said something wrong. She's not like some folk who are notoriously very selective in what they choose to be outraged about.
Anonymous said
Jan 27 1:22 PM, 2020
Text wrote:
.But at least she uses logic, reason and facts
Hmmm. Not so sure about that.
Anonymous said
Jan 27 1:52 PM, 2020
Text wrote:
As for Georgia she does precisely what people are supposed to do on forums - she posts opinions!1 If her opinions are interpreted as her ''barking orders at people'' then this means that everyone who posts their viewpoint or makes suggestions is also barking orders. It means the very person telling her to back off, is barking out orders too. Can you see how this works?
No one is forced to read her posts let alone obey the orders she allegedly barks out. People can completely ignore her posts if need be.
I don't agree with everything she says, she is more leftwing/liberal than I am. But at least she uses logic, reason and facts and goes into meticulous detail, to explain her viewpoints. Best of all she does not pick & choose who to criticise. She criticises me if she thinks I've said something wrong. She's not like some folk who are notoriously very selective in what they choose to be outraged about.
While I agree with you wholeheartedly about GeorgiaX she does go on and on, preaching almost, plus using multiple paragraphs where a short one will do. In other words she loves the sound of her own voice.
Maddog said
Jan 27 2:49 PM, 2020
I regret nothing. 😉
Syl said
Jan 27 3:23 PM, 2020
Maddog wrote:
I regret nothing. 😉
You and Edith both.
Anonymous said
Jan 27 3:38 PM, 2020
Anonymous wrote:
Text wrote:
As for Georgia she does precisely what people are supposed to do on forums - she posts opinions!1 If her opinions are interpreted as her ''barking orders at people'' then this means that everyone who posts their viewpoint or makes suggestions is also barking orders. It means the very person telling her to back off, is barking out orders too. Can you see how this works?
No one is forced to read her posts let alone obey the orders she allegedly barks out. People can completely ignore her posts if need be.
I don't agree with everything she says, she is more leftwing/liberal than I am. But at least she uses logic, reason and facts and goes into meticulous detail, to explain her viewpoints. Best of all she does not pick & choose who to criticise. She criticises me if she thinks I've said something wrong. She's not like some folk who are notoriously very selective in what they choose to be outraged about.
While I agree with you wholeheartedly about GeorgiaX she does go on and on, preaching almost, plus using multiple paragraphs where a short one will do. In other words she loves the sound of her own voice.
I've noted that an Anon is picking on Georgia. Thankfully she will not respond to nameless cowards. I've also noted possibly the same Anon or another doing the same to JD
IMO, both GX and JD are decent posters.
R
JP said
Jan 27 5:01 PM, 2020
Georgia x wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Georgia x wrote:
Jobless Oddball wrote:
"You get the politicians you deserve"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm surprised to say this JO..but I agree with you.
Interesting. In what way would you say you deserve Boris and his government?
As you have addressed me regarding the actual topic and without insult Guest I shall answer.
I don't feel I do deserve it nor anyone who voted for a left wing party.
I think the bigots who want the brown faces they see to decrease and are on low incomes, both reliant on public services and the NHS, who still voted Tory will get what they deserve. But that doesn't mean I'm gleeful about it. It really is turkeys voting for Christmas, excuse the cliché.
The blinkered electorate's who opted for a government they know only cares about the elite and treats the NHS with appalling disdain (because it's underlying desire is to privatise it akin to America's glorious system..!) is the individual who I truly believe will reap what they sew. They believed the scare mongering, right wing propoganda regarding immigration because it supported their own bigoted mindset,
The NHS is the envy of many countries yet this government can pay for private health care so they don't care about giving it the funding it so desperately needs. We have so so much to be grateful for . The NHS employs many immigrants yes, who are willing to work long hours for meagre pay in the menial occupations - jobs considered too dirty, too difficult and frankly too much bother for workshy youths born and bred here.
Without the professional Immigrants working tirelessly in the NHS this country would be woefully worse off. We should be thanking them, not demonising them or attempting to get rid of them.
All this rubbish about immigrants coming here for benefits..only 1% of benefit claimants do not meet the criteria for benefit received. The media has the malleable and not so bright believing immigrants here are stealing jobs and benefits, Infact they do neither. They are desperately needed in the NHS as I stated, they pay their taxes, they contribute-far more than "White Dee "from Benefits Street and her ilk does , yet where is the contempt for these people?
It is that type of not particularly academic individual who has long harboured an underlying prejudice who has voted Tory that frustrate and annoy me. Is is them that have voted for people who despise them and view them as mere proles, will attempt to make their lives considerably more miserable by reducing funding for public services
Cameron referred to residents in Tottenham as "animals" in one speech he gave and I will never forget that sneer of disgust.
The sea of white chubby faces in expensive ill fitting suits are completely out of touch with reality, but that is no concern of theirs. Their comfy plush life given to them gladly by the electorate is set to continue.
The uneducated want division due to bigotry but if they think the Park Lane porkers in power will come to their aid, and I realky think they do, then they are sadly mistaken.
Just so this is clear.
Some want immigrants of 'any' colour(white included) to decrease for what they believe is a valid reason. They believe mass immigration over the last 15 to 20 years is catching up with us. They genuinely believe our services are feeling the pinch because of it. For many it is purely and simply about numbers. Most people who believe this are not bigots. Its nothing at all to do with racism for them.
Where were you reading when the 'White Dee' story was around, she was destroyed and slated into next week.
John Doe said
Jan 27 5:12 PM, 2020
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Text wrote:
As for Georgia she does precisely what people are supposed to do on forums - she posts opinions!1 If her opinions are interpreted as her ''barking orders at people'' then this means that everyone who posts their viewpoint or makes suggestions is also barking orders. It means the very person telling her to back off, is barking out orders too. Can you see how this works?
No one is forced to read her posts let alone obey the orders she allegedly barks out. People can completely ignore her posts if need be.
I don't agree with everything she says, she is more leftwing/liberal than I am. But at least she uses logic, reason and facts and goes into meticulous detail, to explain her viewpoints. Best of all she does not pick & choose who to criticise. She criticises me if she thinks I've said something wrong. She's not like some folk who are notoriously very selective in what they choose to be outraged about.
While I agree with you wholeheartedly about GeorgiaX she does go on and on, preaching almost, plus using multiple paragraphs where a short one will do. In other words she loves the sound of her own voice.
I've noted that an Anon is picking on Georgia. Thankfully she will not respond to nameless cowards. I've also noted possibly the same Anon or another doing the same to JD
IMO, both GX and JD are decent posters.
R
You should join here R, the wider forum is a good place to be and your contributions are always well thought out and polite whether we agree on a topic or not.
So why comment if you don't actually care?
I hope you enjoyed your cuppa.
Whitehouse that was a top shelf magazine I believe.
One of John Doe's favourites?
Nah far too classy for me - Razzle did the job!
As you have addressed me regarding the actual topic and without insult Guest I shall answer.
I don't feel I do deserve it nor anyone who voted for a left wing party.
I think the bigots who want the brown faces they see to decrease and are on low incomes, both reliant on public services and the NHS, who still voted Tory will get what they deserve. But that doesn't mean I'm gleeful about it. It really is turkeys voting for Christmas, excuse the cliché.
The blinkered electorate's who opted for a government they know only cares about the elite and treats the NHS with appalling disdain (because it's underlying desire is to privatise it akin to America's glorious system..!) is the individual who I truly believe will reap what they sew. They believed the scare mongering, right wing propoganda regarding immigration because it supported their own bigoted mindset,
The NHS is the envy of many countries yet this government can pay for private health care so they don't care about giving it the funding it so desperately needs. We have so so much to be grateful for . The NHS employs many immigrants yes, who are willing to work long hours for meagre pay in the menial occupations - jobs considered too dirty, too difficult and frankly too much bother for workshy youths born and bred here.
Without the professional Immigrants working tirelessly in the NHS this country would be woefully worse off. We should be thanking them, not demonising them or attempting to get rid of them.
All this rubbish about immigrants coming here for benefits..only 1% of benefit claimants do not meet the criteria for benefit received. The media has the malleable and not so bright believing immigrants here are stealing jobs and benefits, Infact they do neither. They are desperately needed in the NHS as I stated, they pay their taxes, they contribute-far more than "White Dee "from Benefits Street and her ilk does , yet where is the contempt for these people?
It is that type of not particularly academic individual who has long harboured an underlying prejudice who has voted Tory that frustrate and annoy me. Is is them that have voted for people who despise them and view them as mere proles, will attempt to make their lives considerably more miserable by reducing funding for public services
Cameron referred to residents in Tottenham as "animals" in one speech he gave and I will never forget that sneer of disgust.
The sea of white chubby faces in expensive ill fitting suits are completely out of touch with reality, but that is no concern of theirs. Their comfy plush life given to them gladly by the electorate is set to continue.
The uneducated want division due to bigotry but if they think the Park Lane porkers in power will come to their aid, and I realky think they do, then they are sadly mistaken.
As you have addressed me regarding the actual topic and without insult Guest I shall answer.
You reply to everyone insult or not you daft bint even posts not address to you. Everyone gets your opinion on everything like it or not.
But you said you agreed with JO. What you mean, is, you don't agree with JO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybkqUWw3i5o
You are not the brightest of people, are you? I would explain what the other anon meant but feel that would also go over your head.
Reap what you SOW.
To be fair to JD, he wasn't the one who brought up the subject of Brexit. All he did was reply to a question asked by the guest who made the thread. JD replied a in a civil way, without any insults, so what has he done wrong - apart from posting an opinion that you clearly disagree with? There are insults in this thread but they are not from him lol!
No one is forced to read her posts let alone obey the orders she allegedly barks out. People can completely ignore her posts if need be.
I don't agree with everything she says, she is more leftwing/liberal than I am. But at least she uses logic, reason and facts and goes into meticulous detail, to explain her viewpoints. Best of all she does not pick & choose who to criticise. She criticises me if she thinks I've said something wrong. She's not like some folk who are notoriously very selective in what they choose to be outraged about.
Hmmm. Not so sure about that.
While I agree with you wholeheartedly about GeorgiaX she does go on and on, preaching almost, plus using multiple paragraphs where a short one will do. In other words she loves the sound of her own voice.
I regret nothing. 😉
You and Edith both.
I've noted that an Anon is picking on Georgia. Thankfully she will not respond to nameless cowards. I've also noted possibly the same Anon or another doing the same to JD
IMO, both GX and JD are decent posters.
R
Just so this is clear.
Some want immigrants of 'any' colour(white included) to decrease for what they believe is a valid reason. They believe mass immigration over the last 15 to 20 years is catching up with us. They genuinely believe our services are feeling the pinch because of it. For many it is purely and simply about numbers. Most people who believe this are not bigots. Its nothing at all to do with racism for them.
Where were you reading when the 'White Dee' story was around, she was destroyed and slated into next week.
You should join here R, the wider forum is a good place to be and your contributions are always well thought out and polite whether we agree on a topic or not.
Edith Bunker?
Piaf.