You know, sometimes, and particularly when a child reaches 18 and is therefore no longer the legal responsibility of the parents, they just go their own way and no matter what you do, or how much you turn yourself inside out to help them....they won't be helped. They won't listen. They know best. They will do what they want to do. And then what? What is a parent to do if the adult child is refusing to be helped or help themselves? The answer is nothing. There is nothing you can do.
So blaming the parents is passing the buck, and taking away the responsibility of the mother. We have a whole generation who refuse to grow up. They demand to be treated as adults but won't take adult responsibility. They still want to cash in at the bank of mum and dad, but stamp their trotters at any parental guidance.
So, no....this 18 year old woman has murdered her child all on her own.
-- Edited by Digger on Tuesday 30th of March 2021 05:49:50 PM
Syl said
Mar 30 6:24 PM, 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Heartbreaking. I wonder if she has mental problems, if so, why was she not under some sort of supervision? The baby was under a protection plan why the hell wasn't she protected?
Why wasn't she under Parental supervision?
Why does nearly everyone think it's the governments job to look after these useless wastes of life?
The poor child is at least at peace now and will no longer suffer years of abuse and neglect. The only people to blame here are the parents of the baby and both sets of grandparents. Neither of which seem to give a shit about their children or the off spring of the children.
You could almost compare them to animals who once have a litter will leave the young to defend for themselves and abandon the weak to let nature take it's course.
Maybe the babys grandparents were as useless as her parents.
Someone has to intervene when a child is being badly neglected, and in the UK it's social services.
A bigger picture does emerge though. Why did neighbours not respond to a baby crying? They lived in a flat with close neighbours FGS, why did no one notice she hadn't been seen for days?
Why dont people notice what's going on under their noses ?
Probably because if it's not played out on social media they are not interested.
Maybe they all think it's up to social services as well. It just goes to show though that you can't depend on SS. Or maybe it's because the SS are overwhelmed by people not taking responsibility for their own lives and wait for others to pick up the pieces.
The real problem is when you have generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts breeding. Because the more sprogs you have the more benefits you can claim.
If people could manage their own lives there would be no need for social workers.
The breakdown in families seems to be worse now than it ever was. This kid would have been 15 when she became pregnant, a kid bringing up a kid, and it's ended up in a horrible tragedy.
Anonymous said
Mar 30 6:58 PM, 2021
Anonymous wrote
The real problem is when you have generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts breeding. Because the more sprogs you have the more benefits you can claim.
Blaming this on generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts is cliche and doesn't deal with the problem. She was educated. She was educated to be an individual with human rights, she was educated to learn that she was a victim because of her sex and her colour and that she was living in a racist and misogynistic society. She was educated to express her sexuality whether it was straight, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, multi-partner which would otherwise be oppressed by the traditional Christian white misoygnistic slave keeping patriarchy. Nowadays over 50 percentage of students go on to university, over 50 percent are getting degrees, over 40 percent are getting top degrees.
Anonymous said
Mar 30 8:12 PM, 2021
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Heartbreaking. I wonder if she has mental problems, if so, why was she not under some sort of supervision? The baby was under a protection plan why the hell wasn't she protected?
Why wasn't she under Parental supervision?
Why does nearly everyone think it's the governments job to look after these useless wastes of life?
The poor child is at least at peace now and will no longer suffer years of abuse and neglect. The only people to blame here are the parents of the baby and both sets of grandparents. Neither of which seem to give a shit about their children or the off spring of the children.
You could almost compare them to animals who once have a litter will leave the young to defend for themselves and abandon the weak to let nature take it's course.
Maybe the babys grandparents were as useless as her parents.
Someone has to intervene when a child is being badly neglected, and in the UK it's social services.
A bigger picture does emerge though. Why did neighbours not respond to a baby crying? They lived in a flat with close neighbours FGS, why did no one notice she hadn't been seen for days?
Why dont people notice what's going on under their noses ?
Probably because if it's not played out on social media they are not interested.
Maybe they all think it's up to social services as well. It just goes to show though that you can't depend on SS. Or maybe it's because the SS are overwhelmed by people not taking responsibility for their own lives and wait for others to pick up the pieces.
The real problem is when you have generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts breeding. Because the more sprogs you have the more benefits you can claim.
If people could manage their own lives there would be no need for social workers.
The breakdown in families seems to be worse now than it ever was. This kid would have been 15 when she became pregnant, a kid bringing up a kid, and it's ended up in a horrible tragedy.
She wasn't 15 when she left the kid alone for six days. She would know herself by her own hunger that you can't go several hours without being hungry. She left that baby alone to die and there's no excusing her.
She could have picked up a phone and called Her parents/his parents/ the grandparents/Police or SS at any time during her time partying. She didn't
My 13 year old either gets me to make himself something to eat or he will make it himself when he gets hungry. So as I said she knew leaving the child alone she would soon need feeding
Syl said
Mar 30 11:21 PM, 2021
Who is making excuses? I am stating facts.
Anonymous said
Mar 30 11:41 PM, 2021
Regarding never having enough money for social services - the BBC have a front page news article today complaining that there isn't enough money to support trans gender children. They ran a story about an NHS clinic or small hospital dedicated to giving support to trans gender children and complaining it was underfunded, understaffed and that they were overwhelmed by the number of cases they were receiving.
The real problem is when you have generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts breeding. Because the more sprogs you have the more benefits you can claim.
Blaming this on generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts is cliche and doesn't deal with the problem. She was educated. She was educated to be an individual with human rights, she was educated to learn that she was a victim because of her sex and her colour and that she was living in a racist and misogynistic society. She was educated to express her sexuality whether it was straight, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, multi-partner which would otherwise be oppressed by the traditional Christian white misoygnistic slave keeping patriarchy. Nowadays over 50 percentage of students go on to university, over 50 percent are getting degrees, over 40 percent are getting top degrees.
Shame she wasn't educated in how to take care of a child then isn't it
Syl said
Mar 31 11:00 PM, 2021
Or the dangers of underage and unprotected sex.
Digger said
Apr 1 10:00 AM, 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote
The real problem is when you have generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts breeding. Because the more sprogs you have the more benefits you can claim.
Blaming this on generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts is cliche and doesn't deal with the problem. She was educated. She was educated to be an individual with human rights, she was educated to learn that she was a victim because of her sex and her colour and that she was living in a racist and misogynistic society. She was educated to express her sexuality whether it was straight, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, multi-partner which would otherwise be oppressed by the traditional Christian white misoygnistic slave keeping patriarchy. Nowadays over 50 percentage of students go on to university, over 50 percent are getting degrees, over 40 percent are getting top degrees.
Shame she wasn't educated in how to take care of a child then isn't it
There's something inherent in most living creatures. It's called maternal instinct.
Anonymous said
Apr 1 5:44 PM, 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote
The real problem is when you have generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts breeding. Because the more sprogs you have the more benefits you can claim.
Blaming this on generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts is cliche and doesn't deal with the problem. She was educated. She was educated to be an individual with human rights, she was educated to learn that she was a victim because of her sex and her colour and that she was living in a racist and misogynistic society. She was educated to express her sexuality whether it was straight, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, multi-partner which would otherwise be oppressed by the traditional Christian white misoygnistic slave keeping patriarchy. Nowadays over 50 percentage of students go on to university, over 50 percent are getting degrees, over 40 percent are getting top degrees.
Shame she wasn't educated in how to take care of a child then isn't it
You're not very good at engaging with what is written and developing arguments. I don't know what school you went to but pulling out your dick and pleasuring yourself is not an argument. In the scheme of things school education (state education) is a fairly recent phenomenon.
Anonymous said
Apr 6 12:47 AM, 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote
The real problem is when you have generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts breeding. Because the more sprogs you have the more benefits you can claim.
Blaming this on generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts is cliche and doesn't deal with the problem. She was educated. She was educated to be an individual with human rights, she was educated to learn that she was a victim because of her sex and her colour and that she was living in a racist and misogynistic society. She was educated to express her sexuality whether it was straight, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, multi-partner which would otherwise be oppressed by the traditional Christian white misoygnistic slave keeping patriarchy. Nowadays over 50 percentage of students go on to university, over 50 percent are getting degrees, over 40 percent are getting top degrees.
Shame she wasn't educated in how to take care of a child then isn't it
You mustn't have any children then. Because any parent on here will tell you they didn't have a clue when they had their first child, You learn on the job and being bought up decently you knew you had to do your best. Even to this day and my kids are now preteens. Every day is a challenge on doing the right thing. You suddenly realise that you are the one thing you said you'd never be. And that is exactly like your parents.
Taking care of a child is basic. You need to feed it/wash it. but most importantly you need to love the child.
Syl said
Apr 7 12:27 PM, 2021
I don't think any new mother forgets the first day they are home from hospital with their newborn. That life depends on them and them alone....it's overwhelming, but thankfully, the majority of women who give birth has something called maternal instinct.
Caring can be taught, maternal instinct is natural.
You know, sometimes, and particularly when a child reaches 18 and is therefore no longer the legal responsibility of the parents, they just go their own way and no matter what you do, or how much you turn yourself inside out to help them....they won't be helped. They won't listen. They know best. They will do what they want to do. And then what? What is a parent to do if the adult child is refusing to be helped or help themselves? The answer is nothing. There is nothing you can do.
So blaming the parents is passing the buck, and taking away the responsibility of the mother. We have a whole generation who refuse to grow up. They demand to be treated as adults but won't take adult responsibility. They still want to cash in at the bank of mum and dad, but stamp their trotters at any parental guidance.
So, no....this 18 year old woman has murdered her child all on her own.
-- Edited by Digger on Tuesday 30th of March 2021 05:49:50 PM
If people could manage their own lives there would be no need for social workers.
The breakdown in families seems to be worse now than it ever was. This kid would have been 15 when she became pregnant, a kid bringing up a kid, and it's ended up in a horrible tragedy.
Blaming this on generation after generation of uneducated school dropouts is cliche and doesn't deal with the problem. She was educated. She was educated to be an individual with human rights, she was educated to learn that she was a victim because of her sex and her colour and that she was living in a racist and misogynistic society. She was educated to express her sexuality whether it was straight, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, multi-partner which would otherwise be oppressed by the traditional Christian white misoygnistic slave keeping patriarchy. Nowadays over 50 percentage of students go on to university, over 50 percent are getting degrees, over 40 percent are getting top degrees.
She wasn't 15 when she left the kid alone for six days. She would know herself by her own hunger that you can't go several hours without being hungry. She left that baby alone to die and there's no excusing her.
She could have picked up a phone and called Her parents/his parents/ the grandparents/Police or SS at any time during her time partying. She didn't
My 13 year old either gets me to make himself something to eat or he will make it himself when he gets hungry. So as I said she knew leaving the child alone she would soon need feeding
Regarding never having enough money for social services - the BBC have a front page news article today complaining that there isn't enough money to support trans gender children. They ran a story about an NHS clinic or small hospital dedicated to giving support to trans gender children and complaining it was underfunded, understaffed and that they were overwhelmed by the number of cases they were receiving.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56539466
Shame she wasn't educated in how to take care of a child then isn't it
There's something inherent in most living creatures. It's called maternal instinct.
You're not very good at engaging with what is written and developing arguments. I don't know what school you went to but pulling out your dick and pleasuring yourself is not an argument. In the scheme of things school education (state education) is a fairly recent phenomenon.
You mustn't have any children then. Because any parent on here will tell you they didn't have a clue when they had their first child, You learn on the job and being bought up decently you knew you had to do your best. Even to this day and my kids are now preteens. Every day is a challenge on doing the right thing. You suddenly realise that you are the one thing you said you'd never be. And that is exactly like your parents.
Taking care of a child is basic. You need to feed it/wash it. but most importantly you need to love the child.
Caring can be taught, maternal instinct is natural.