Hopefully he will feel just a bit sicker when Tyson fights him on the 9th.Â
Magica said
Sep 30 2:28 PM, 2021
John Doe wrote:
Magica wrote:
Oh what! This man is sick in the head imo. 😲
 Hopefully he will feel just a bit sicker when Tyson fights him on the 9th.Â
 Hope soÂ
John Doe said
Sep 30 4:16 PM, 2021
Magica wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Magica wrote:
Oh what! This man is sick in the head imo. 😲
 Hopefully he will feel just a bit sicker when Tyson fights him on the 9th.Â
 Hope soÂ
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Magica said
Sep 30 6:06 PM, 2021
Oh haha 😂😂😂
John Doe said
Oct 8 1:34 AM, 2021
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-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 8th of October 2021 03:37:25 PM
John Doe said
Oct 8 1:48 AM, 2021
As far as this weekend's fight goes Fury if he has anyof his previous focus and conditioning (and not Long Covid affecting him) he should win easily.
But Wilder (as big a prick as he is) has that one big right hand.
Good luck Tyson - my prediction ?
Mid round stoppage for Fury.Â
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-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 8th of October 2021 03:37:47 PM
Magica said
Oct 8 6:11 PM, 2021
Yes hope Fury wins!
John Doe said
Oct 15 5:43 PM, 2021
Joshua v Wilder would be interesting if it happens, it could go either way in the battle of the racists lol.
If Wilder land that massive right hand Joshua is not getting up, he has nowhere near the recuperative powers of Fury and reminds me of a more fluid and better boxing version of Frank Bruno who (like Frank did) freezes when hurt.
On the other hand after the brutal beatings Wilder has had from Tyson he may never be the same again.
Time will tell.
-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 15th of October 2021 05:44:10 PM
John Doe said
Dec 5 2:20 PM, 2021
This is a wonderfully written article.
Forget about the Tyson fanboys, this is the real and ultimate clash of the heavyweight monsters.
I love the way a man who actually knew both men brings so much historical detail to the fore (Sonny with his loving wife Geraldine and the Priests, the Mafia trying to fix the fight etc).
They were both great boxers. Apart from Cassius Clay, Sonny was, imo, the best among the best of boxers.
John Doe said
Dec 6 11:13 PM, 2021
Magica wrote:
They were both great boxers. Apart from Cassius Clay, Sonny was, imo, the best among the best of boxers.
Yeah Ali was the Greatest of all time but the prime Liston of 58-60 would have pushed him close.
As for those before him (if the Mafia were not involved).
Dempsey, Marciano etc.
Lol.
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Magica said
Dec 7 9:24 AM, 2021
Joe Louis (the brown bomber) was supposed to be one of the great boxers aswell. So many great boxers around then.
John Doe said
Dec 19 11:25 PM, 2021
Magica wrote:
Joe Louis (the brown bomber) was supposed to be one of the great boxers aswell. So many great boxers around then.
Head to head and greatness are somewhat different Mags, in terms of greatness he is generally ranked only behind Ali.
But he would be too small today.
I see Tyson being the undefeated Heavyweight Champion of the world did not even merit a finish in the top three of the Sports Personality of the Year.
The again he is just a white working class bloke so does not tick any PC boxes.
You can bet your life if BLM racist Joshua was still undefeated he would be in the top three.
-- Edited by John Doe on Sunday 19th of December 2021 11:29:22 PM
John Doe said
Dec 20 12:37 AM, 2021
As for earlier eras, though small for today Ali, Foreman, Holmes and certainly Sonny would fit right in.
He had 15 inch fists and an 84 inch reach (one less than Tyson Fury) - Sonny at his peak and without the Mafia dictating results was the world's worst monster - even worse than Big George and that is truly horrifying.
Mike Tyson?
Lol.
His YouTube fanboys would shit themselves as Mike folded under George and his mentor's (Sonny) ferocious and soulless glares.
Buster Douglas kicked his ass - what would prime Liston (58) and Foreman(73) do to him?
Let alone Ali?
Magica said
Dec 20 4:57 PM, 2021
I agree JD. Must give Rocky Marciano a mention too. Apparently he was great in his day as was Henry Cooper, but not in Liston's league. Cooper did floor Ali, he was only saved by the bell. Shame because Cooper was a great boxer then.
John Doe said
Dec 20 7:43 PM, 2021
Magica wrote:
I agree JD. Must give Rocky Marciano a mention too. Apparently he was great in his day as was Henry Cooper, but not in Liston's league. Cooper did floor Ali, he was only saved by the bell. Shame because Cooper was a great boxer then.
I think Rocky is vastly overrated tbh Mags, he would be a light heavyweight by todays standards, his opposition was old smaller men from lighter divisions and nobodies apart from the ancient shell of Joe Louis.
He was undefeated of course but very lucky indeed to have retired before Liston came on to the scene.
Magica said
Dec 21 1:02 PM, 2021
Yes he was but still I think a good boxer. Of course not in Liston, Louis and Ali's league.
John Doe said
Dec 21 4:56 PM, 2021
Magica wrote:
Yes he was but still I think a good boxer. Of course not in Liston, Louis and Ali's league.
 Hopefully he will feel just a bit sicker when Tyson fights him on the 9th.Â
 Hope soÂ
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-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 8th of October 2021 03:37:25 PM
As far as this weekend's fight goes Fury if he has any of his previous focus and conditioning (and not Long Covid affecting him) he should win easily.
But Wilder (as big a prick as he is) has that one big right hand.
Good luck Tyson - my prediction ?
Mid round stoppage for Fury.Â
Â
-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 8th of October 2021 03:37:47 PM
Joshua v Wilder would be interesting if it happens, it could go either way in the battle of the racists lol.
If Wilder land that massive right hand Joshua is not getting up, he has nowhere near the recuperative powers of Fury and reminds me of a more fluid and better boxing version of Frank Bruno who (like Frank did) freezes when hurt.
On the other hand after the brutal beatings Wilder has had from Tyson he may never be the same again.
Time will tell.
-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 15th of October 2021 05:44:10 PM
This is a wonderfully written article.
Forget about the Tyson fanboys, this is the real and ultimate clash of the heavyweight monsters.
I love the way a man who actually knew both men brings so much historical detail to the fore (Sonny with his loving wife Geraldine and the Priests, the Mafia trying to fix the fight etc).
https://www.ringtv.com/631369-mythical-matchup-sonny-liston-vs-george-foreman/
Yeah Ali was the Greatest of all time but the prime Liston of 58-60 would have pushed him close.
As for those before him (if the Mafia were not involved).
Dempsey, Marciano etc.
Lol.
Â
Head to head and greatness are somewhat different Mags, in terms of greatness he is generally ranked only behind Ali.
But he would be too small today.
I see Tyson being the undefeated Heavyweight Champion of the world did not even merit a finish in the top three of the Sports Personality of the Year.
The again he is just a white working class bloke so does not tick any PC boxes.
You can bet your life if BLM racist Joshua was still undefeated he would be in the top three.
-- Edited by John Doe on Sunday 19th of December 2021 11:29:22 PM
As for earlier eras, though small for today Ali, Foreman, Holmes and certainly Sonny would fit right in.
He had 15 inch fists and an 84 inch reach (one less than Tyson Fury) - Sonny at his peak and without the Mafia dictating results was the world's worst monster - even worse than Big George and that is truly horrifying.
Mike Tyson?
Lol.
His YouTube fanboys would shit themselves as Mike folded under George and his mentor's (Sonny) ferocious and soulless glares.
Buster Douglas kicked his ass - what would prime Liston (58) and Foreman(73) do to him?
Let alone Ali?
I think Rocky is vastly overrated tbh Mags, he would be a light heavyweight by todays standards, his opposition was old smaller men from lighter divisions and nobodies apart from the ancient shell of Joe Louis.
He was undefeated of course but very lucky indeed to have retired before Liston came on to the scene.
 Well said.Â
Good advert - Evander's face!Â