The dinosaur media is trying to remain relevant. I think this is one way of doing it. Kill the messengers.
Uncharacteristically you're drifting into conspiracy territory. Bear in mind that a modern line of defence when caught out is to claim there;s a witch hunt against you.
Syl said
Sep 16 6:20 PM, 2023
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
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Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
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Maddog wrote:
Sounds to me like the usual woke mob going after comedians who offend them. They have tried to cancel many US comedians, and succeeded with a few.
US comedians won't even step foot on a college campus, for fear of offending the whiney little fucks in their safe spaces.
This is just mainstream media engaging in more cancel culture bullshit.
The content hasn't been revealed yet, it could be about their private lives...and Brand is known to have been very promiscuous in the past.
Maybe he has 10 kids he doesn't pay a penny for.
No one cares if he has 10 kids.
What people care about is comedians "punching down".
Russell is very outspoken. The Ministry of Truth doesn't appreciate that nonsense..
Anyone can have as many kids as they like, as long as they pay for them.
He seems to think the allegations (if he is one of the people about to be named) concern his private life, he is loudly proclaiming that though he has been very, very promiscuous, all his relationships have been consensual.
IF any women are prepared to speak out and claim they were not consensual...should a person not be named?,or are rapists, as long as they challenge societies rules, exempt from public disgrace?
Course, it could have nothing to do with him or his private life...we wont know till tonight.
So you think they found a woman that's willing to come forward 15 years later saying he got her drunk and had sex with her?
I'm sure they could.
The question is why do the creators of Dispatch care now?
Generally speaking, if a man forces a woman to have sex, he is guilty of rape.
If it was 15 years ago or last night...it's still rape.
Dispatches is a pretty well respected programme here, and thanks to Brand's rather hysterical ramblings oN social media today, I think it'll have a good audience tonight.
Do you think Assange raped anyone? He was accused by some folks in power of doing so.
I could be way off, but Brand has been very vocal about calling out mainstream media, while getting some fairly high profile people to agree with him. He's an absolute thorn in their side.
The "new" media people like him, are destroying what we call the dinosaur media.
The dinosaur media is trying to remain relevant. I think this is one way of doing it. Kill the messengers.
I can't comment on Assange because I honestly haven't followed any news about him.
Brand may well be a thorn in some peoples sides, but IF he has done wrong, why shouldn't he now be challenged. I should think there is proof, else why would a respected programme risk their reputation?
Syl said
Sep 16 7:04 PM, 2023
Russell Brand has been accused of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse by four women, including one who claimed she was 16 years old at the time.
-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 16th of September 2023 07:10:02 PM
Maddog said
Sep 16 7:32 PM, 2023
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
media.
The dinosaur media is trying to remain relevant. I think this is one way of doing it. Kill the messengers.
Uncharacteristically you're drifting into conspiracy territory. Bear in mind that a modern line of defence when caught out is to claim there;s a witch hunt against you.
I wouldn't call it a conspiracy but pointing out the dirty nature of how these things often go.
It's not a conspiracy that cable news and mainstream news are dying a slow death. The only folks that get their news from those sources are over 50.
I guess I can't prove that they will dig up dirt on their replacements.
Maddog said
Sep 16 7:38 PM, 2023
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Sounds to me like the usual woke mob going after comedians who offend them. They have tried to cancel many US comedians, and succeeded with a few.
US comedians won't even step foot on a college campus, for fear of offending the whiney little fucks in their safe spaces.
This is just mainstream media engaging in more cancel culture bullshit.
The content hasn't been revealed yet, it could be about their private lives...and Brand is known to have been very promiscuous in the past.
Maybe he has 10 kids he doesn't pay a penny for.
No one cares if he has 10 kids.
What people care about is comedians "punching down".
Russell is very outspoken. The Ministry of Truth doesn't appreciate that nonsense..
Anyone can have as many kids as they like, as long as they pay for them.
He seems to think the allegations (if he is one of the people about to be named) concern his private life, he is loudly proclaiming that though he has been very, very promiscuous, all his relationships have been consensual.
IF any women are prepared to speak out and claim they were not consensual...should a person not be named?,or are rapists, as long as they challenge societies rules, exempt from public disgrace?
Course, it could have nothing to do with him or his private life...we wont know till tonight.
So you think they found a woman that's willing to come forward 15 years later saying he got her drunk and had sex with her?
I'm sure they could.
The question is why do the creators of Dispatch care now?
Generally speaking, if a man forces a woman to have sex, he is guilty of rape.
If it was 15 years ago or last night...it's still rape.
Dispatches is a pretty well respected programme here, and thanks to Brand's rather hysterical ramblings oN social media today, I think it'll have a good audience tonight.
Do you think Assange raped anyone? He was accused by some folks in power of doing so.
I could be way off, but Brand has been very vocal about calling out mainstream media, while getting some fairly high profile people to agree with him. He's an absolute thorn in their side.
The "new" media people like him, are destroying what we call the dinosaur media.
The dinosaur media is trying to remain relevant. I think this is one way of doing it. Kill the messengers.
I can't comment on Assange because I honestly haven't followed any news about him.
Brand may well be a thorn in some peoples sides, but IF he has done wrong, why shouldn't he now be challenged. I should think there is proof, else why would a respected programme risk their reputation?
None of us have any idea what he did. Maybe it's true, maybe not.
I'm pretty sure they can still charge him here for rape if they want. It will be interesting to see if they want to try that, or are accusations without convictions enough to get these ladies justice?.
And you can simply Google Assange and rape to get up to speed on how he got charged in Sweden and how that case ended up.
Digger said
Sep 16 8:29 PM, 2023
Brand's acted like a dirty old slut for years.
Magica said
Sep 16 11:01 PM, 2023
Never liked him, there was always something not quite right about him!
Syl said
Sep 16 11:10 PM, 2023
Well that programme was pretty damning.
Acting like a slut is one thing, raping, grooming and attacking women, which it seems he has been getting away with for many years, is something else.
Looks like once again, the BBC amongst other TV companies, cover up for their 'stars'.
Maddog said
Sep 16 11:14 PM, 2023
Digger wrote:
Brand's acted like a dirty old slut for years.
I think he did during his sex, drugs and rock and roll days for sure.
But like any rock and roll star or celebrity of that type, they generally have plenty of people wanting to oblige their desires.
And some of those people won't look back on what they did with fond memories of the event or their partner.
Take the case of the 16 year old. He shouldn't be messing around with a girl that young. In fact it's illegal here. But she claims they had a 3 month relationship. She liked some part of that relationship for sure.
And at 16, she's 2 years older than Priscilla Presley was when she started dating Elvis.
Different times no doubt, but we also have different standards for people it seems..
Syl said
Sep 16 11:51 PM, 2023
Priscilla Presley has said she was a virgin till the day she married.
She may have dated Elvis when she was 14, they didn't we'd till she was 21.
Maddog said
Sep 17 2:22 AM, 2023
Syl wrote:
Priscilla Presley has said she was a virgin till the day she married. She may have dated Elvis when she was 14, they didn't we'd till she was 21.
She was living with him at 16.
Maybe she was a virgin. He and her were still engaged in adult activities including drug use that 16 year olds shouldn't be doing and would be considered a crime.
That doesn't excuse Russell fucking around with a 16 year old though. I wonder how many 16 year olds have been backstage at rock concerts? Doesn't make it right, but it's part of the culture.
Anonymous said
Sep 17 6:29 AM, 2023
Parallels with Trump - we seem destined to fall under the spell of demagogues who manage to get away with just about anything.
Digger said
Sep 17 8:21 AM, 2023
Syl wrote:
Priscilla Presley has said she was a virgin till the day she married. She may have dated Elvis when she was 14, they didn't we'd till she was 21.
There's still something off about a 21 year old dating a 14 year old.
Digger said
Sep 17 8:21 AM, 2023
Why didn't these women come forwards when the alleged sex crimes took place?
Anonymous said
Sep 17 8:25 AM, 2023
Russell Brand may have been a BBC most popular person once upon a time, but no more as he for some time has gone down the "alt-news" route using Youtube and other Social Media platforms to develop an independent, more critical voice. Those that monitor such websites as the BBC know that for the next several years or so the public is going to be fed a diet of salacious headlines as the claims and maybe a court case or two rumble on until some sort of resolution is reached. We had it with people like Donald Trump, Julian Assange, Christian Ronaldo, Benjamin Mendy, and more recently Luis Rubiales.
Digger said
Sep 17 8:35 AM, 2023
'Rachel' - not her real name - told The Times in a report published today that when she was 24, Brand flashed his penis at her as she walked into his dressing room. She claims that the comedian and actor 'insinuated' that she could perform oral sex on him. Rachel said she was shocked by the comment and refused.
She then goes on to have a relationship with him. ??? Why would you?
Anonymous said
Sep 17 8:56 AM, 2023
Digger wrote:
Why didn't these women come forwards when the alleged sex crimes took place?
Something untouchable about the suspect, gui;t, feeling it's your own fault, shame of having your name and your family's made public, fear of losing their job, stress of a trial, it's often the same story. Thereb are many well known reasons victims of sexual offences don;t come forward.
Anonymous said
Sep 17 9:08 AM, 2023
Digger wrote:
'Rachel' - not her real name - told The Times in a report published today that when she was 24, Brand flashed his penis at her as she walked into his dressing room. She claims that the comedian and actor 'insinuated' that she could perform oral sex on him. Rachel said she was shocked by the comment and refused.
She then goes on to have a relationship with him. ??? Why would you?
Naive, vulnerable victim being exploited?
Digger said
Sep 17 10:02 AM, 2023
Anonymous wrote:
Digger wrote:
Why didn't these women come forwards when the alleged sex crimes took place?
Something untouchable about the suspect, gui;t, feeling it's your own fault, shame of having your name and your family's made public, fear of losing their job, stress of a trial, it's often the same story. Thereb are many well known reasons victims of sexual offences don;t come forward.
I get that for a 16 year old but not for a grown woman. All the above could just as easily be applied now. It always seems odd to me that there's a sudden surge of accusations seemingly out of the blue all at once. As though there's another mechanism driving it.
I'm not a fan of Brand at all I think he's a narcissistic prat. But there's too much of this flinging accusations around via the media before any concrete proof is offered up and evidenced. I think investigations at least initially should be done out of the glare of the media circus until a conviction can be made.
Digger said
Sep 17 10:16 AM, 2023
Anonymous wrote:
Digger wrote:
'Rachel' - not her real name - told The Times in a report published today that when she was 24, Brand flashed his penis at her as she walked into his dressing room. She claims that the comedian and actor 'insinuated' that she could perform oral sex on him. Rachel said she was shocked by the comment and refused.
She then goes on to have a relationship with him. ??? Why would you?
Naive, vulnerable victim being exploited?
She initially seemed strong enough to be shocked and refuse his advances. What changed? She could have continued to say no. Every single woman I know would have either reported his behaviour there and then or walked off and never interacted with him again.
According to some sources he was reported but once again the good old BBC refused to act.
Uncharacteristically you're drifting into conspiracy territory. Bear in mind that a modern line of defence when caught out is to claim there;s a witch hunt against you.
I can't comment on Assange because I honestly haven't followed any news about him.
Brand may well be a thorn in some peoples sides, but IF he has done wrong, why shouldn't he now be challenged. I should think there is proof, else why would a respected programme risk their reputation?
Russell Brand has been accused of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse by four women, including one who claimed she was 16 years old at the time.
Russell Brand ‘forced his penis down 16-year-old’s throat’ | Metro News
-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 16th of September 2023 07:10:02 PM
I wouldn't call it a conspiracy but pointing out the dirty nature of how these things often go.
It's not a conspiracy that cable news and mainstream news are dying a slow death. The only folks that get their news from those sources are over 50.
I guess I can't prove that they will dig up dirt on their replacements.
None of us have any idea what he did. Maybe it's true, maybe not.
I'm pretty sure they can still charge him here for rape if they want. It will be interesting to see if they want to try that, or are accusations without convictions enough to get these ladies justice?.
And you can simply Google Assange and rape to get up to speed on how he got charged in Sweden and how that case ended up.
Acting like a slut is one thing, raping, grooming and attacking women, which it seems he has been getting away with for many years, is something else.
Looks like once again, the BBC amongst other TV companies, cover up for their 'stars'.
I think he did during his sex, drugs and rock and roll days for sure.
But like any rock and roll star or celebrity of that type, they generally have plenty of people wanting to oblige their desires.
And some of those people won't look back on what they did with fond memories of the event or their partner.
Take the case of the 16 year old. He shouldn't be messing around with a girl that young. In fact it's illegal here. But she claims they had a 3 month relationship. She liked some part of that relationship for sure.
And at 16, she's 2 years older than Priscilla Presley was when she started dating Elvis.
Different times no doubt, but we also have different standards for people it seems..
She may have dated Elvis when she was 14, they didn't we'd till she was 21.
She was living with him at 16.
Maybe she was a virgin. He and her were still engaged in adult activities including drug use that 16 year olds shouldn't be doing and would be considered a crime.
That doesn't excuse Russell fucking around with a 16 year old though. I wonder how many 16 year olds have been backstage at rock concerts? Doesn't make it right, but it's part of the culture.
Parallels with Trump - we seem destined to fall under the spell of demagogues who manage to get away with just about anything.
There's still something off about a 21 year old dating a 14 year old.
Russell Brand may have been a BBC most popular person once upon a time, but no more as he for some time has gone down the "alt-news" route using Youtube and other Social Media platforms to develop an independent, more critical voice. Those that monitor such websites as the BBC know that for the next several years or so the public is going to be fed a diet of salacious headlines as the claims and maybe a court case or two rumble on until some sort of resolution is reached. We had it with people like Donald Trump, Julian Assange, Christian Ronaldo, Benjamin Mendy, and more recently Luis Rubiales.
'Rachel' - not her real name - told The Times in a report published today that when she was 24, Brand flashed his penis at her as she walked into his dressing room. She claims that the comedian and actor 'insinuated' that she could perform oral sex on him. Rachel said she was shocked by the comment and refused.
She then goes on to have a relationship with him. ??? Why would you?
Something untouchable about the suspect, gui;t, feeling it's your own fault, shame of having your name and your family's made public, fear of losing their job, stress of a trial, it's often the same story. Thereb are many well known reasons victims of sexual offences don;t come forward.
Naive, vulnerable victim being exploited?
I get that for a 16 year old but not for a grown woman. All the above could just as easily be applied now. It always seems odd to me that there's a sudden surge of accusations seemingly out of the blue all at once. As though there's another mechanism driving it.
I'm not a fan of Brand at all I think he's a narcissistic prat. But there's too much of this flinging accusations around via the media before any concrete proof is offered up and evidenced. I think investigations at least initially should be done out of the glare of the media circus until a conviction can be made.
She initially seemed strong enough to be shocked and refuse his advances. What changed? She could have continued to say no. Every single woman I know would have either reported his behaviour there and then or walked off and never interacted with him again.
According to some sources he was reported but once again the good old BBC refused to act.