From my own experience, I see Mosques being built and Churches being turned into carpet warehouses. People bred and born in the UK are not interested in religion anymore, you use it or lose it.
I see once C of E schools with an increasing number of Muslim kids, the rules are changed to accommodate them.
Houses in my road are extended to house several Muslim women who all seem to have a baby every year, the men come and go, they have different houses.
Like has been mentioned, the vast majority of Immigrants coming here seeking refuge....are young men.
And if anyone thinks it's scare mongering or racist to point out that newly arrived Asian immigrants get priority when it comes to schools, social housing and NHS treatment, I suggest they open their eyes.
Why is it a problem if Muslim women seem to have a baby every year?
Is it all Asian immigrants you mean, getting priority treatment, or just the Muslim ones?
It's a problem because they breed too much, we are an island, we cant cope with the numbers we have living here now, God knows what it'll be like in a decade or so.
Mainly Muslim, ime.
Anonymous said
Sep 24 1:26 PM, 2023
jackthelad wrote:
Islam is already destined to fail as the young men have seen a different more open secular world which is more appealing to the majority of them.
Already many of them are turning their backs on the religious rules and the religious men.
I only fear for my children and their children.
Massive social unrest is just around the corner.
Chaos by design.
So Muslims are going to overrun Europe and take over but Islam is destined to fail?
If the young Muslim men are turning their backs on Islam because the secular world is more appealing to the majority of them, doesn't that answer Digger's question about seamless integration?
Why is there going to be civil unrest?
jackthelad said
Sep 24 1:30 PM, 2023
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
"Religion starting with Christianity will be destroyed"
Jack says religion will be destroyed but Baba Yaga, Diggs and Mags think Islam will rule Europe. Which way are we having this, guys? It can't be both.
It's called difference of opinion maybe you've heard of it?
Different world views are quite normal and only time will tell.
-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 24th of September 2023 01:28:32 PM
Anonymous said
Sep 24 1:38 PM, 2023
jackthelad wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
"Religion starting with Christianity will be destroyed"
Jack says religion will be destroyed but Baba Yaga, Diggs and Mags think Islam will rule Europe. Which way are we having this, guys? It can't be both.
It's called difference of opinion maybe you've heard of it?
Different world views are quite normal and only time will tell.
-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 24th of September 2023 01:28:32 PM
It's polar opposite predictions not a difference of opinion but you're entertaining, Jack, I'll give you that. You've spent the last 200 years foreseeing the end of civilisation.
jackthelad said
Sep 24 1:52 PM, 2023
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
"Religion starting with Christianity will be destroyed"
Jack says religion will be destroyed but Baba Yaga, Diggs and Mags think Islam will rule Europe. Which way are we having this, guys? It can't be both.
It's called difference of opinion maybe you've heard of it?
Different world views are quite normal and only time will tell.
-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 24th of September 2023 01:28:32 PM
It's polar opposite predictions not a difference of opinion but you're entertaining, Jack, I'll give you that. You've spent the last 200 years foreseeing the end of civilisation.
40 years of the new world order yes.
Digger said
Sep 24 2:10 PM, 2023
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Islam is already destined to fail as the young men have seen a different more open secular world which is more appealing to the majority of them.
Already many of them are turning their backs on the religious rules and the religious men.
I only fear for my children and their children.
Massive social unrest is just around the corner.
Chaos by design.
So Muslims are going to overrun Europe and take over but Islam is destined to fail?
If the young Muslim men are turning their backs on Islam because the secular world is more appealing to the majority of them, doesn't that answer Digger's question about seamless integration?
Why is there going to be civil unrest?
Don't think it can't happen again.
-- Edited by Digger on Sunday 24th of September 2023 02:12:12 PM
Islam is already destined to fail as the young men have seen a different more open secular world which is more appealing to the majority of them.
Already many of them are turning their backs on the religious rules and the religious men.
I only fear for my children and their children.
Massive social unrest is just around the corner.
Chaos by design.
So Muslims are going to overrun Europe and take over but Islam is destined to fail?
If the young Muslim men are turning their backs on Islam because the secular world is more appealing to the majority of them, doesn't that answer Digger's question about seamless integration?
Why is there going to be civil unrest?
Because there's no such thing as true cultural integration. When one culture becomes the majority in a single country, it dominates all other cultures and starts to rule. It's laws become THE laws. No other laws apply.
If you look to history... all the warnings are there. It all boils down to one fundamental thing. The tribal nature of human beings.
According to the traditional interpretation of Islamic law a Muslim man is allowed to marry a Jewish or Christian woman but this ruling doesn't apply to women who belong to other Non-Muslim religious groups, whereas a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a Non-Muslim man of any Non-Muslim religious group. Islam is one of the most male dominated misogynistic religions in the world. There's no grey areas with it, just the stark black and white of Sharia Law. And if you think there are moderate muslims, when push comes to shove they will all do what they're told to do under Sharia because that is Islam's strength - its complete control and domination. We see how this pans out in most Middle Eastern countries and how intolerant a religion it is. The most extreme being ISIS. All it takes is a handful of fanatics.
Most Brits would utterly refuse to live under Islamic strictures and there will be war if that ever comes about.
Anonymous said
Sep 24 2:44 PM, 2023
Digger wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Islam is already destined to fail as the young men have seen a different more open secular world which is more appealing to the majority of them.
Already many of them are turning their backs on the religious rules and the religious men.
I only fear for my children and their children.
Massive social unrest is just around the corner.
Chaos by design.
So Muslims are going to overrun Europe and take over but Islam is destined to fail?
If the young Muslim men are turning their backs on Islam because the secular world is more appealing to the majority of them, doesn't that answer Digger's question about seamless integration?
Why is there going to be civil unrest?
Because there's no such thing as true cultural integration. When one culture becomes the majority in a single country, it dominates all other cultures and starts to rule. It's laws become THE laws. No other laws apply.
If you look to history... all the warnings are there. It all boils down to one fundamental thing. The tribal nature of human beings.
According to the traditional interpretation of Islamic law a Muslim man is allowed to marry a Jewish or Christian woman but this ruling doesn't apply to women who belong to other Non-Muslim religious groups, whereas a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a Non-Muslim man of any Non-Muslim religious group. Islam is one of the most male dominated misogynistic religions in the world. There's no grey areas with it, just the stark black and white of Sharia Law. And if you think there are moderate muslims, when push comes to shove they will all do what they're told to do under Sharia because that is Islam's strength - its complete control and domination. We see how this pans out in most Middle Eastern countries and how intolerant a religion it is. The most extreme being ISIS. All it takes is a handful of fanatics.
Most Brits would utterly refuse to live under Islamic strictures and there will be war if that ever comes about.
You will have to live in Jack's Europe where Muslims have renounced Islam in favour of sex, drugs and tattoos for all.
Will the Shia and Sunni branches rule together? Which Islamic school of jurisprudence's interpretation of Sharia will dictate the terms and conditions of control?
Maddog said
Sep 24 5:59 PM, 2023
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Digger said
Sep 24 8:15 PM, 2023
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
jackthelad said
Sep 24 9:04 PM, 2023
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
Don't know about forty years I'm thinking on a much shorter time frame as within the next 12 months.
I don't mean the end of Europe in 12 months but utter chaos and civil unrest.
The German economy right now is tanking.
German companies are leaving and heading to Asia... notice not America.
The power and the money and the future are not in America.
We have an energy crisis in Europe partly because of investing shit loads of money in windmills.
We have a migrant crisis in Europe.
We have a major war raging in Europe.
We have the sexualisation of our children and their education.
We have farms being forcibly closed and grabbed by governments.
We have hundreds of thousands of cattle being slaughtered not to be replaced.
At the same time as a cost of living crisis.
There is no way to avoid massive food price hikes and shortages.
It's like some kind of asylum!
There's chaos in Italy a political crisis in France Poland building up for war.
That's without any unforeseen problems appearing.
No guest it's not doom and gloom it's what's on the news everyday just now and many
commentators are saying the fabric isn't strong enough to survive this amount of stress.
-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 24th of September 2023 10:02:13 PM
Anonymous said
Sep 24 9:32 PM, 2023
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
Don't know about forty years I'm thinking on a much shorter time frame as within the next 12 months.
Is that until the end of Europe, or the end of Rollup?
jackthelad said
Sep 24 10:03 PM, 2023
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
Don't know about forty years I'm thinking on a much shorter time frame as within the next 12 months.
Is that until the end of Europe, or the end of Rollup?
Why do you post this stuff?
jackthelad said
Sep 24 10:04 PM, 2023
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
Don't know about forty years I'm thinking on a much shorter time frame as within the next 12 months.
I don't mean the end of Europe in 12 months but utter chaos and civil unrest.
The German economy right now is tanking.
German companies are leaving and heading to Asia... notice not America.
The power and the money and the future are not in America.
We have an energy crisis in Europe partly because of investing shit loads of money in windmills.
We have a migrant crisis in Europe.
We have a major war raging in Europe.
We have the sexualisation of our children and their education.
We have farms being forcibly closed and grabbed by governments.
We have hundreds of thousands of cattle being slaughtered not to be replaced.
At the same time as a cost of living crisis.
There is no way to avoid massive food price hikes and shortages.
It's like some kind of asylum!
There's chaos in Italy a political crisis in France Poland building up for war.
That's without any unforeseen problems appearing.
No guest it's not doom and gloom it's what's on the news everyday just now and many
commentators are saying the fabric isn't strong enough to survive this amount of stress.
-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 24th of September 2023 10:02:13 PM
Bumped for guest.
jackthelad said
Sep 24 10:06 PM, 2023
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
Don't know about forty years I'm thinking on a much shorter time frame as within the next 12 months.
Is that until the end of Europe, or the end of Rollup?
The end of rollup will be before 15 years are up I'm guessing.
Maddog said
Sep 24 10:47 PM, 2023
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
There are all sorts of problems out there. One of the biggest is the declining European birth rate.
Your welfare states are predicted on the number of folks working growing at the same rate as retirees.
You need more babies, fewer old people, or immigrants.
Now, I do think you are way too generous to many of your immigrants. The ability to stay in your country should be earned by hard fucking work.
Anonymous said
Sep 24 10:52 PM, 2023
jackthelad wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
Don't know about forty years I'm thinking on a much shorter time frame as within the next 12 months.
I don't mean the end of Europe in 12 months but utter chaos and civil unrest.
The German economy right now is tanking.
German companies are leaving and heading to Asia... notice not America.
The power and the money and the future are not in America.
We have an energy crisis in Europe partly because of investing shit loads of money in windmills.
We have a migrant crisis in Europe.
We have a major war raging in Europe.
We have the sexualisation of our children and their education.
We have farms being forcibly closed and grabbed by governments.
We have hundreds of thousands of cattle being slaughtered not to be replaced.
At the same time as a cost of living crisis.
There is no way to avoid massive food price hikes and shortages.
It's like some kind of asylum!
There's chaos in Italy a political crisis in France Poland building up for war.
That's without any unforeseen problems appearing.
No guest it's not doom and gloom it's what's on the news everyday just now and many
commentators are saying the fabric isn't strong enough to survive this amount of stress.
-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 24th of September 2023 10:02:13 PM
Bumped for guest.
How is that the fault of Muslims?
Anonymous said
Sep 24 10:54 PM, 2023
jackthelad wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
Don't know about forty years I'm thinking on a much shorter time frame as within the next 12 months.
Is that until the end of Europe, or the end of Rollup?
Why do you post this stuff?
Because you don't make it clear what you're saying. I didn't know if you'd had bad medical news or if you thought Europe was going to be wiped out.
jackthelad said
Sep 24 11:32 PM, 2023
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
Don't know about forty years I'm thinking on a much shorter time frame as within the next 12 months.
Is that until the end of Europe, or the end of Rollup?
Why do you post this stuff?
Because you don't make it clear what you're saying. I didn't know if you'd had bad medical news or if you thought Europe was going to be wiped out.
OK... you'll be pleased to know my medical news is good just now.
jackthelad said
Sep 24 11:34 PM, 2023
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
Don't know about forty years I'm thinking on a much shorter time frame as within the next 12 months.
I don't mean the end of Europe in 12 months but utter chaos and civil unrest.
The German economy right now is tanking.
German companies are leaving and heading to Asia... notice not America.
The power and the money and the future are not in America.
We have an energy crisis in Europe partly because of investing shit loads of money in windmills.
We have a migrant crisis in Europe.
We have a major war raging in Europe.
We have the sexualisation of our children and their education.
We have farms being forcibly closed and grabbed by governments.
We have hundreds of thousands of cattle being slaughtered not to be replaced.
At the same time as a cost of living crisis.
There is no way to avoid massive food price hikes and shortages.
It's like some kind of asylum!
There's chaos in Italy a political crisis in France Poland building up for war.
That's without any unforeseen problems appearing.
No guest it's not doom and gloom it's what's on the news everyday just now and many
commentators are saying the fabric isn't strong enough to survive this amount of stress.
-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 24th of September 2023 10:02:13 PM
It's a problem because they breed too much, we are an island, we cant cope with the numbers we have living here now, God knows what it'll be like in a decade or so.
Mainly Muslim, ime.
So Muslims are going to overrun Europe and take over but Islam is destined to fail?
If the young Muslim men are turning their backs on Islam because the secular world is more appealing to the majority of them, doesn't that answer Digger's question about seamless integration?
Why is there going to be civil unrest?
It's polar opposite predictions not a difference of opinion but you're entertaining, Jack, I'll give you that. You've spent the last 200 years foreseeing the end of civilisation.
40 years of the new world order yes.
Don't think it can't happen again.
-- Edited by Digger on Sunday 24th of September 2023 02:12:12 PM
Because there's no such thing as true cultural integration. When one culture becomes the majority in a single country, it dominates all other cultures and starts to rule. It's laws become THE laws. No other laws apply.
If you look to history... all the warnings are there. It all boils down to one fundamental thing. The tribal nature of human beings.
According to the traditional interpretation of Islamic law a Muslim man is allowed to marry a Jewish or Christian woman but this ruling doesn't apply to women who belong to other Non-Muslim religious groups, whereas a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a Non-Muslim man of any Non-Muslim religious group. Islam is one of the most male dominated misogynistic religions in the world. There's no grey areas with it, just the stark black and white of Sharia Law. And if you think there are moderate muslims, when push comes to shove they will all do what they're told to do under Sharia because that is Islam's strength - its complete control and domination. We see how this pans out in most Middle Eastern countries and how intolerant a religion it is. The most extreme being ISIS. All it takes is a handful of fanatics.
Most Brits would utterly refuse to live under Islamic strictures and there will be war if that ever comes about.
You will have to live in Jack's Europe where Muslims have renounced Islam in favour of sex, drugs and tattoos for all.
Will the Shia and Sunni branches rule together? Which Islamic school of jurisprudence's interpretation of Sharia will dictate the terms and conditions of control?
Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.
However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..
Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
Don't know about forty years I'm thinking on a much shorter time frame as within the next 12 months.
I don't mean the end of Europe in 12 months but utter chaos and civil unrest.
The German economy right now is tanking.
German companies are leaving and heading to Asia... notice not America.
The power and the money and the future are not in America.
We have an energy crisis in Europe partly because of investing shit loads of money in windmills.
We have a migrant crisis in Europe.
We have a major war raging in Europe.
We have the sexualisation of our children and their education.
We have farms being forcibly closed and grabbed by governments.
We have hundreds of thousands of cattle being slaughtered not to be replaced.
At the same time as a cost of living crisis.
There is no way to avoid massive food price hikes and shortages.
It's like some kind of asylum!
There's chaos in Italy a political crisis in France Poland building up for war.
That's without any unforeseen problems appearing.
No guest it's not doom and gloom it's what's on the news everyday just now and many
commentators are saying the fabric isn't strong enough to survive this amount of stress.
-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 24th of September 2023 10:02:13 PM
Is that until the end of Europe, or the end of Rollup?
Why do you post this stuff?
Bumped for guest.
The end of rollup will be before 15 years are up I'm guessing.
There are all sorts of problems out there. One of the biggest is the declining European birth rate.
Your welfare states are predicted on the number of folks working growing at the same rate as retirees.
You need more babies, fewer old people, or immigrants.
Now, I do think you are way too generous to many of your immigrants. The ability to stay in your country should be earned by hard fucking work.
How is that the fault of Muslims?
Because you don't make it clear what you're saying. I didn't know if you'd had bad medical news or if you thought Europe was going to be wiped out.
OK... you'll be pleased to know my medical news is good just now.
No one suggested it's the fault of Muslims.