I question the sanity of allowing in healthy young Muslim men with no women or children with them in their hundreds a day.
Lets hope it's not a 3rd world immigrant.
Lets hope it's not Islam striking again.
Apparently that makes me extreme right wing!
-- Edited by jackthelad on Thursday 23rd of November 2023 10:31:35 PM
-- Edited by jackthelad on Thursday 23rd of November 2023 11:01:50 PM
He's Algerian
Still an immigrant
And yet it was a Brazilian immigrant who finally stopped him from killing more by bashing him over the head with his crash helmet. It's not immigrants that are problem per se....it's Islam.
I couldn't agree more. Without immigration this country would have not grown as it has over the last 70 years, and the Brazilian man was a hero, as was the woman who tried to defend the children, between them they no doubt saved the lives of the three children he attacked.
There is good immigration, and bad, as has been pointed out already. Thousands of young men arriving here illegally, without papers, without family, with a completely different mindset to the people they are integrating with, is a recipe for disaster.
Maddog said
Nov 24 4:06 PM, 2023
It's odd how the police and media will describe different groups who riot, when one of that group is attacked. 🤷♂️
Some groups are entitled to riot, while others are castigated for it.
Syl said
Nov 24 4:43 PM, 2023
Maddog wrote:
It's odd how the police and media will describe different groups who riot, when one of that group is attacked. 🤷♂️
Some groups are entitled to riot, while others are castigated for it.
And some are entitled to protest, and others are not.
The double standards in this country are beyond belief.
Anonymous said
Nov 24 8:05 PM, 2023
jackthelad wrote:
I don't want Islam anywhere near me and mine.
I question the sanity of allowing in healthy young Muslim men with no women or children with them in their hundreds a day.
Lets hope it's not a 3rd world immigrant.
Lets hope it's not Islam striking again.
Apparently that makes me extreme right wing!
-- Edited by jackthelad on Thursday 23rd of November 2023 10:31:35 PM
-- Edited by jackthelad on Thursday 23rd of November 2023 11:01:50 PM
Jack, do you know any Muslims in real life?
Digger said
Nov 24 10:52 PM, 2023
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
I don't want Islam anywhere near me and mine.
I question the sanity of allowing in healthy young Muslim men with no women or children with them in their hundreds a day.
Lets hope it's not a 3rd world immigrant.
Lets hope it's not Islam striking again.
Apparently that makes me extreme right wing!
-- Edited by jackthelad on Thursday 23rd of November 2023 10:31:35 PM
-- Edited by jackthelad on Thursday 23rd of November 2023 11:01:50 PM
Jack, do you know any Muslims in real life?
I can't speak for Jack, but I do, and in my career as a dancer I met and had to deal with loads of them. Most of them nice people on the whole. But they were always muslims first. One of my best friends has a muslim partner and he's a nightmare to live with. Not because he's particularly horrible but because Islam and his misogynistic imprinting always comes before her welfare and happiness. She was a dancer at the top of her game when she met him, but the minute she moved in with him he banned her from dancing. Personally I'd have told him to fuck off, but she's not me. She's been with him 15 years and most of that has been fraught because of his mindset.
I used to have so many run ins with Arab musicians who either wanted to dominate me or get into my knickers. They all, without exception, considered women, particularly non-muslim women, as inferior who should be put in their place. It wasn't necessarily cave man tactics but it was still there one way or the other....this undercurrent of disdainful masculine toxicity. I never stood for shit though, but it often cost me in a professional capacity as it was often the musicians who chose the dancer for gigs.
Having said all this, our Iraqi neighbour is the loveliest man totally under the thumb of his white non muslim middle aged wife.
jackthelad said
Nov 25 12:44 AM, 2023
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
I don't want Islam anywhere near me and mine.
I question the sanity of allowing in healthy young Muslim men with no women or children with them in their hundreds a day.
Lets hope it's not a 3rd world immigrant.
Lets hope it's not Islam striking again.
Apparently that makes me extreme right wing!
-- Edited by jackthelad on Thursday 23rd of November 2023 10:31:35 PM
-- Edited by jackthelad on Thursday 23rd of November 2023 11:01:50 PM
Jack, do you know any Muslims in real life?
I used to but I've been more fortunate the last forty years.
Maddog said
Nov 25 3:49 PM, 2023
I see Connor MacGregor is chiming in.
He has his government sussed. He's giving them hell for blaming the same old bogeyman while forgetting they are responsible for keeping their citizens safe but as usual, fucking useless.
Around the world people are beginning to realize that giving their governments more power, money and responsibility rarely translates into more security for them. Only for those in government or joined at the hip with them..
Syl said
Nov 25 7:38 PM, 2023
I have Hindu neighbours and Muslim neighbours.
There has been trouble between them in the past, not any more. The Hindu neighbours are very sociable, inviting us to their kids weddings, chatting in the road etc, the Muslim neighbours never associate with anyone else in the road.
They have a very odd lifestyle compared to most westerners, and they have in the past run their own house (which is huge) like some kind of Mosque.
Since the elder died, and the house was passed down to their sons and wives....who never mix together in public, it's a lot quieter.
I work on the premiss, as I am sure the majority do, if people don't bother me, I don't bother them....and they have never bothered me.
Anonymous said
Nov 25 7:45 PM, 2023
Syl wrote:
I have Hindu neighbours and Muslim neighbours. There has been trouble between them in the past, not any more. The Hindu neighbours are very sociable, inviting us to their kids weddings, chatting in the road etc, the Muslim neighbours never associate with anyone else in the road.
They have a very odd lifestyle compared to most westerners, and they have in the past run their own house (which is huge) like some kind of Mosque. Since the elder died, and the house was passed down to their sons and wives....who never mix together in public, it's a lot quieter.
I work on the premiss, as I am sure the majority do, if people don't bother me, I don't bother them....and they have never bothered me.
What's odd about their lifestyle, Syl?
Syl said
Nov 25 11:40 PM, 2023
The men and women never mix. The men drive, the women walk. The women never look at anyone as they pass, and they seem to have a baby every year. If they stay long enough, as some have, they can have several children within several years.
The kids never play out, even they don't mix with neighbouring kids.
jackthelad said
Nov 26 12:33 AM, 2023
Maddog wrote:
I see Connor MacGregor is chiming in.
He has his government sussed. He's giving them hell for blaming the same old bogeyman while forgetting they are responsible for keeping their citizens safe but as usual, fucking useless.
Around the world people are beginning to realize that giving their governments more power, money and responsibility rarely translates into more security for them. Only for those in government or joined at the hip with them..
Ben Gilroy saying as much...
https://twitter.com/BenGilroyIRL
jackthelad said
Nov 26 12:34 AM, 2023
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-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 26th of November 2023 12:35:37 AM
I couldn't agree more. Without immigration this country would have not grown as it has over the last 70 years, and the Brazilian man was a hero, as was the woman who tried to defend the children, between them they no doubt saved the lives of the three children he attacked.
There is good immigration, and bad, as has been pointed out already. Thousands of young men arriving here illegally, without papers, without family, with a completely different mindset to the people they are integrating with, is a recipe for disaster.
Some groups are entitled to riot, while others are castigated for it.
And some are entitled to protest, and others are not.
BBC bans Jewish staff from marching against anti-Semitism (msn.com)
The double standards in this country are beyond belief.
Jack, do you know any Muslims in real life?
I can't speak for Jack, but I do, and in my career as a dancer I met and had to deal with loads of them. Most of them nice people on the whole. But they were always muslims first. One of my best friends has a muslim partner and he's a nightmare to live with. Not because he's particularly horrible but because Islam and his misogynistic imprinting always comes before her welfare and happiness. She was a dancer at the top of her game when she met him, but the minute she moved in with him he banned her from dancing. Personally I'd have told him to fuck off, but she's not me. She's been with him 15 years and most of that has been fraught because of his mindset.
I used to have so many run ins with Arab musicians who either wanted to dominate me or get into my knickers. They all, without exception, considered women, particularly non-muslim women, as inferior who should be put in their place. It wasn't necessarily cave man tactics but it was still there one way or the other....this undercurrent of disdainful masculine toxicity. I never stood for shit though, but it often cost me in a professional capacity as it was often the musicians who chose the dancer for gigs.
Having said all this, our Iraqi neighbour is the loveliest man totally under the thumb of his white non muslim middle aged wife.
I used to but I've been more fortunate the last forty years.
He has his government sussed. He's giving them hell for blaming the same old bogeyman while forgetting they are responsible for keeping their citizens safe but as usual, fucking useless.
Around the world people are beginning to realize that giving their governments more power, money and responsibility rarely translates into more security for them. Only for those in government or joined at the hip with them..
There has been trouble between them in the past, not any more. The Hindu neighbours are very sociable, inviting us to their kids weddings, chatting in the road etc, the Muslim neighbours never associate with anyone else in the road.
They have a very odd lifestyle compared to most westerners, and they have in the past run their own house (which is huge) like some kind of Mosque.
Since the elder died, and the house was passed down to their sons and wives....who never mix together in public, it's a lot quieter.
I work on the premiss, as I am sure the majority do, if people don't bother me, I don't bother them....and they have never bothered me.
What's odd about their lifestyle, Syl?
The kids never play out, even they don't mix with neighbouring kids.
Ben Gilroy saying as much...
https://twitter.com/BenGilroyIRL
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-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 26th of November 2023 12:35:37 AM