They can't turn the army on their own people. This really will cause civil war.
I think things would have to get a lot worse than this before the army are roped in.
I had to laugh at last night's news, police were taking fingerprints on the wall of the Holiday Inn in Rotherham, where dozens of yobs had stormed in.
Not sure they would manage to find any clear prints on a public wall.
Bloody idiots!
Syl said
Aug 8 12:58 AM, 2024
Maybe Britain is not as near to broken as first thought. The feared protests tonight were largely peaceful.
"Thousands of counter-protesters took to the streets of Britain on Wednesday in defiance of far-right violence that has swept the country over the last week.
Up to 25,000 protesters, some chanting “hate not welcome” and “refugees welcome here”, gathered in towns and cities like Walthamstow, Finchley, Birmingham, Newcastle and Blackpool as nearly 100 far-right rallies failed to materialise.
Police were braced for 100 far-right protests across the country threatening to target immigration services, with officers expecting around 30 counter-demonstrations,The Independent understands."
Let's hope the unrest over the last week has been a wakeup call to this government that people now want to be listened to.
Syl said
Aug 19 11:49 AM, 2024
Another triple stabbing, this time in Gorton Manchester. One dead two seriously injured.
Maybe Britain is not as near to broken as first thought. The feared protests tonight were largely peaceful.
"Thousands of counter-protesters took to the streets of Britain on Wednesday in defiance of far-right violence that has swept the country over the last week.
Up to 25,000 protesters, some chanting “hate not welcome” and “refugees welcome here”, gathered in towns and cities like Walthamstow, Finchley, Birmingham, Newcastle and Blackpool as nearly 100 far-right rallies failed to materialise.
Police were braced for 100 far-right protests across the country threatening to target immigration services, with officers expecting around 30 counter-demonstrations,The Independent understands."
Let's hope the unrest over the last week has been a wakeup call to this government that people now want to be listened to.
Maybe they can the illegals can live with these lefties!
Maddog said
Aug 19 5:23 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Maybe Britain is not as near to broken as first thought. The feared protests tonight were largely peaceful.
"Thousands of counter-protesters took to the streets of Britain on Wednesday in defiance of far-right violence that has swept the country over the last week.
Up to 25,000 protesters, some chanting “hate not welcome” and “refugees welcome here”, gathered in towns and cities like Walthamstow, Finchley, Birmingham, Newcastle and Blackpool as nearly 100 far-right rallies failed to materialise.
Police were braced for 100 far-right protests across the country threatening to target immigration services, with officers expecting around 30 counter-demonstrations,The Independent understands."
Let's hope the unrest over the last week has been a wakeup call to this government that people now want to be listened to.
Unfortunately, this is how authority works on many levels. If the people politely and calmly say thers is a problem here that needs to be addressed, they often get brushed aside..
Raise a little hell and people in power pay attention. The good ones may even pay attention to your concerns. Others will simply try to discount the people and their concerns, and label them as non team players or some shit..
Syl said
Aug 19 6:54 PM, 2024
I have no faith in any governments listening to people.
They panicked when the riots were going on a couple of weeks ago, the counter protestors calmed things down more than the police and authorities did. All Starmers lot did was make a huge noise about how many thugs have already been caught and jailed....yet the Muslim airport thugs are still free.
Our fuel bills are set to rise again in the winter...winter fuel payments have been stopped for millions of pensioners, the present government blame the previous government for the shortfall which has to be made up by the most vulnerable people in society.
Meanwhile 492 migrants arrived here illegally yesterday, they will be housed and fed at the expense of the little man and woman in the street.
Maddog said
Aug 19 7:27 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
I have no faith in any governments listening to people.
They panicked when the riots were going on a couple of weeks ago, the counter protestors calmed things down more than the police and authorities did. All Starmers lot did was make a huge noise about how many thugs have already been caught and jailed....yet the Muslim airport thugs are still free.
Our fuel bills are set to rise again in the winter...winter fuel payments have been stopped for millions of pensioners, the present government blame the previous government for the shortfall which has to be made up by the most vulnerable people in society.
Meanwhile 492 migrants arrived here illegally yesterday, they will be housed and fed at the expense of the little man and woman in the street.
I should have said hear as opposed to listen..
Often all you get out of them is a reaction and a label as a bad citizen.
That may or may not be better than simply being ignored when you tried it nicely..
Magica said
Aug 19 8:22 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
I have no faith in any governments listening to people.
They panicked when the riots were going on a couple of weeks ago, the counter protestors calmed things down more than the police and authorities did. All Starmers lot did was make a huge noise about how many thugs have already been caught and jailed....yet the Muslim airport thugs are still free.
Our fuel bills are set to rise again in the winter...winter fuel payments have been stopped for millions of pensioners, the present government blame the previous government for the shortfall which has to be made up by the most vulnerable people in society.
Meanwhile 492 migrants arrived here illegally yesterday, they will be housed and fed at the expense of the little man and woman in the street.
I don't either. I don't trust Starmer, it's scary what he's doing to this country. He is not addressing any of the immigration problems, just sticking people into already overcrowded prisons, for even speaking out about muslims.
Now stealing money from pensioners, as you say. Maybe they will die off fast so more houses can go to his protected illegals!
Vita said
Aug 20 4:54 AM, 2024
I saw this...
Not only has the Union Flag been set on fire but some scumbag is urinating on it.
In what other country could someone do this without fear of arrest?
Not only has the Union Flag been set on fire but some scumbag is urinating on it.
In what other country could someone do this without fear of arrest?
Disgusting! Hope he was arrested.
Syl said
Aug 20 11:21 AM, 2024
Multiculturalism has robbed Britain of everything it once stood for. It could have worked, but it wasn't managed properly.
Magica said
Aug 20 12:38 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Multiculturalism has robbed Britain of everything it once stood for. It could have worked, but it wasn't managed properly.
They never integrated like blacks did.
It's always going to be a problem until immigration is addressed. Starmer won't listen to us or do anything, he protects them. Terrible man.
Syl said
Aug 20 1:09 PM, 2024
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Multiculturalism has robbed Britain of everything it once stood for. It could have worked, but it wasn't managed properly.
They never integrated like blacks did.
It's always going to be a problem until immigration is addressed. Starmer won't listen to us or do anything, he protects them. Terrible man.
We started welcoming immigrants after the war mainly.
We needed people to work here after our own population had been diminished. The NHS would have gone under decades ago without immigration.
Then Jewish people came in droves, and they settled without causing problems, as did most other races and religions.
Many Muslims don't want to mix with others....that's their choice, I imagine plenty Brits settle in Spain and don't mix much with the Spaniards, but neither do they want to take control.
The biggest problem with immigration we have now are the illegals travelling here by boats, That only started less than a decade ago, and it's causing huge problems and resentment....not to mention crime.
Magica said
Aug 20 4:09 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Multiculturalism has robbed Britain of everything it once stood for. It could have worked, but it wasn't managed properly.
They never integrated like blacks did.
It's always going to be a problem until immigration is addressed. Starmer won't listen to us or do anything, he protects them. Terrible man.
We started welcoming immigrants after the war mainly.
We needed people to work here after our own population had been diminished. The NHS would have gone under decades ago without immigration.
Then Jewish people came in droves, and they settled without causing problems, as did most other races and religions.
Many Muslims don't want to mix with others....that's their choice, I imagine plenty Brits settle in Spain and don't mix much with the Spaniards, but neither do they want to take control.
The biggest problem with immigration we have now are the illegals travelling here by boats, That only started less than a decade ago, and it's causing huge problems and resentment....not to mention crime.
Nothing will change unless Starmer addresses thie boats, and he won't.
Maddog said
Aug 20 4:40 PM, 2024
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Multiculturalism has robbed Britain of everything it once stood for. It could have worked, but it wasn't managed properly.
They never integrated like blacks did.
It's always going to be a problem until immigration is addressed. Starmer won't listen to us or do anything, he protects them. Terrible man.
We started welcoming immigrants after the war mainly.
We needed people to work here after our own population had been diminished. The NHS would have gone under decades ago without immigration.
Then Jewish people came in droves, and they settled without causing problems, as did most other races and religions.
Many Muslims don't want to mix with others....that's their choice, I imagine plenty Brits settle in Spain and don't mix much with the Spaniards, but neither do they want to take control.
The biggest problem with immigration we have now are the illegals travelling here by boats, That only started less than a decade ago, and it's causing huge problems and resentment....not to mention crime.
Nothing will change unless Starmer addresses thie boats, and he won't.
You never know. Our democrats are deporting people like crazy..
Four years ago they told everyone we had a place for them. The fear of losing an election and losing power can make them change course.
Magica said
Aug 20 5:46 PM, 2024
Maddog wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Multiculturalism has robbed Britain of everything it once stood for. It could have worked, but it wasn't managed properly.
They never integrated like blacks did.
It's always going to be a problem until immigration is addressed. Starmer won't listen to us or do anything, he protects them. Terrible man.
We started welcoming immigrants after the war mainly.
We needed people to work here after our own population had been diminished. The NHS would have gone under decades ago without immigration.
Then Jewish people came in droves, and they settled without causing problems, as did most other races and religions.
Many Muslims don't want to mix with others....that's their choice, I imagine plenty Brits settle in Spain and don't mix much with the Spaniards, but neither do they want to take control.
The biggest problem with immigration we have now are the illegals travelling here by boats, That only started less than a decade ago, and it's causing huge problems and resentment....not to mention crime.
Nothing will change unless Starmer addresses thie boats, and he won't.
You never know. Our democrats are deporting people like crazy..
Four years ago they told everyone we had a place for them. The fear of losing an election and losing power can make them change course.
We've just had an election, stuck with him for 5 years sadly. I'm hoping his party will get rid of him.
Syl said
Aug 20 5:58 PM, 2024
So do I...he is useless.
Digger said
Aug 20 7:09 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
So do I...he is useless.
He's getting called Keir Stalin now. What a fucking fool he is.
Syl said
Aug 21 11:11 AM, 2024
Shoplifting has increased drastically across the country.
Charity shops are a prime target (how low can some people go?) one manager stating that almost every day items get stolen from their shop.
So called 'experts' put the increase down to the cost of living crisis, or mental illness.
Nearer the truth would be greed, and the fact that so many people want something for nothing and have never learned that you have to actually work for the things in life that you want.
"The number of police-recorded shoplifting offences have hit a 20-year high across England and Wales.
Police forces logged a total of 443,995 instances in the year up to March 2024. That is up 30% on the year previous, from 342,428.
The figure is at its highest level since current records began in March 2003, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), which described the latest increases as "notable".
This a sad story in the news today. Poor man just trying to do an honest day's work and save himself from getting sacked.
A brave delivery driver who was killed trying to stop a 'vanjacking' clung on to the passenger door for half a mile when a thief jumped behind the wheel.
The courier, in his forties, was on his rounds delivering Amazon parcels on Tuesday evening when his grey transit van was stolen in Leeds, West Yorkshire.
He was delivering a package to a house at about 6.45pm when he returned to see a man jumping into his vehicle.
He tried to stop the thief by getting into the van himself, but the suspect drove away at speed, dragging the driver for half a mile as he desperately hung out of the door.
The silver Ford Transit Cargo then smashed into two parked cars, around half a mile from where the theft occurred.
As the courier lay dying in the street, the thief drove off, and abandoned the vehicle six miles away in Heights Drive.
Bloody idiots!
Maybe Britain is not as near to broken as first thought.
The feared protests tonight were largely peaceful.
"Thousands of counter-protesters took to the streets of Britain on Wednesday in defiance of far-right violence that has swept the country over the last week.
Up to 25,000 protesters, some chanting “hate not welcome” and “refugees welcome here”, gathered in towns and cities like Walthamstow, Finchley, Birmingham, Newcastle and Blackpool as nearly 100 far-right rallies failed to materialise.
Police were braced for 100 far-right protests across the country threatening to target immigration services, with officers expecting around 30 counter-demonstrations,The Independent understands."
Let's hope the unrest over the last week has been a wakeup call to this government that people now want to be listened to.
Another triple stabbing, this time in Gorton Manchester.
One dead two seriously injured.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsmanchester/man-22-arrested-for-murder-after-woman-killed-in-horror-triple-stabbing/ar-AA1p2M16?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Maybe they can the illegals can live with these lefties!
Unfortunately, this is how authority works on many levels. If the people politely and calmly say thers is a problem here that needs to be addressed, they often get brushed aside..
Raise a little hell and people in power pay attention. The good ones may even pay attention to your concerns. Others will simply try to discount the people and their concerns, and label them as non team players or some shit..
They panicked when the riots were going on a couple of weeks ago, the counter protestors calmed things down more than the police and authorities did. All Starmers lot did was make a huge noise about how many thugs have already been caught and jailed....yet the Muslim airport thugs are still free.
Our fuel bills are set to rise again in the winter...winter fuel payments have been stopped for millions of pensioners, the present government blame the previous government for the shortfall which has to be made up by the most vulnerable people in society.
Meanwhile 492 migrants arrived here illegally yesterday, they will be housed and fed at the expense of the little man and woman in the street.
I should have said hear as opposed to listen..
Often all you get out of them is a reaction and a label as a bad citizen.
That may or may not be better than simply being ignored when you tried it nicely..
I don't either. I don't trust Starmer, it's scary what he's doing to this country. He is not addressing any of the immigration problems, just sticking people into already overcrowded prisons, for even speaking out about muslims.
Now stealing money from pensioners, as you say. Maybe they will die off fast so more houses can go to his protected illegals!
I saw this...
Not only has the Union Flag been set on fire but some scumbag is urinating on it.
In what other country could someone do this without fear of arrest?
Disgusting! Hope he was arrested.
They never integrated like blacks did.
It's always going to be a problem until immigration is addressed. Starmer won't listen to us or do anything, he protects them. Terrible man.
We started welcoming immigrants after the war mainly.
We needed people to work here after our own population had been diminished. The NHS would have gone under decades ago without immigration.
Then Jewish people came in droves, and they settled without causing problems, as did most other races and religions.
Many Muslims don't want to mix with others....that's their choice, I imagine plenty Brits settle in Spain and don't mix much with the Spaniards, but neither do they want to take control.
The biggest problem with immigration we have now are the illegals travelling here by boats, That only started less than a decade ago, and it's causing huge problems and resentment....not to mention crime.
Nothing will change unless Starmer addresses thie boats, and he won't.
You never know. Our democrats are deporting people like crazy..
Four years ago they told everyone we had a place for them. The fear of losing an election and losing power can make them change course.
We've just had an election, stuck with him for 5 years sadly. I'm hoping his party will get rid of him.
He's getting called Keir Stalin now. What a fucking fool he is.
Shoplifting has increased drastically across the country.
Charity shops are a prime target (how low can some people go?) one manager stating that almost every day items get stolen from their shop.
So called 'experts' put the increase down to the cost of living crisis, or mental illness.
Nearer the truth would be greed, and the fact that so many people want something for nothing and have never learned that you have to actually work for the things in life that you want.
"The number of police-recorded shoplifting offences have hit a 20-year high across England and Wales.
Police forces logged a total of 443,995 instances in the year up to March 2024. That is up 30% on the year previous, from 342,428.
The figure is at its highest level since current records began in March 2003, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), which described the latest increases as "notable".
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-07-24/shoplifting-offences-in-england-and-wales-hit-a-20-year-high
This a sad story in the news today. Poor man just trying to do an honest day's work and save himself from getting sacked.
A brave delivery driver who was killed trying to stop a 'vanjacking' clung on to the passenger door for half a mile when a thief jumped behind the wheel.
The courier, in his forties, was on his rounds delivering Amazon parcels on Tuesday evening when his grey transit van was stolen in Leeds, West Yorkshire.
He was delivering a package to a house at about 6.45pm when he returned to see a man jumping into his vehicle.
He tried to stop the thief by getting into the van himself, but the suspect drove away at speed, dragging the driver for half a mile as he desperately hung out of the door.
The silver Ford Transit Cargo then smashed into two parked cars, around half a mile from where the theft occurred.
As the courier lay dying in the street, the thief drove off, and abandoned the vehicle six miles away in Heights Drive.