Trump doesn't seem to understand economics. MAGA! He wants companies like Apple and others to produce their products in America. Take one global product the iphone. If it was produced in America a thousand pound phone would cost five hundred quid more because of higher wages and other high costs. It's a global product and theirs no secret technology involved. The thousand quid phone would still get produced in China Malaysia Japan etc and America would have little chance of selling theirs. There's a thousand other products America can't produce cheaper than the east.
That thousand pound phone probably costs next to nothing to make. Apple and companies like it are robbers. All their products are vastly inflated and not that good. So, why not make the fuckers give the jobs to Americans and take a slash in their exploitative profits.
The iphone 15 pro, to take an example, costs $558 to make which you might think is next to nothing but in reality it's a fairly hefty sum. The phone sells for around 1000 dollars which is around 100% markup and that's not really over inflated as it's quite normal to sell a product for twice what it costs to make it.
Not sure what you mean about the product not being that good - I think what these phones can do is pretty amazing; my own experience with iphones is that they're reliable, although maybe I've been lucky and your own experience has been different.
Their computers don't last compared to other makes. I've had several Apple computers, and swore I'd use nothing else because the OS is great but they lasted a few years then broke. After 4 or 5 laptops, I threw in the towel. The phone batteries are crap.
jackb said
Nov 7 10:19 AM, 2024
I only used Apple and the i phone as an example to simplify a hugely complex issue regarding trying to bring manufacturing back to America.
Whether Trump likes it or not China is now the factory of the world.
I'm old enough to remember when everyone everywhere wanted to see made in England stamped on their goods.
It won't be coming home.
Vita said
Nov 7 2:51 PM, 2024
The number of meltdowns on Twitter is growing by the hour!!
Maddog you must have voted Trump because there's no way you'd ever vote Liberal.
It's ok you know...
Maddog said
Nov 7 8:39 PM, 2024
jackb wrote:
Maddog you must have voted Trump because there's no way you'd ever vote Liberal. It's ok you know...
I wrote in my grand daughters.
I usually vote libertarian and did for s few other races..
Anonymous said
Nov 8 12:50 AM, 2024
Maddog wrote:
jackb wrote:
Maddog you must have voted Trump because there's no way you'd ever vote Liberal. It's ok you know...
I wrote in my grand daughters.
I usually vote libertarian and did for s few other races..
Hiya. Maybe you missed my post to you on the previous page? No problem if you can’t be arsed to get into it, but I‘d be interested in your take on the Musk/Thiel/JD trifecta.
Maddog said
Nov 8 1:38 PM, 2024
Vam wrote:
@MD…”I‘ll be damned”…um yeah, you sure might be!
Do you agree that the real election winners are Musk, Thiel & all the dark money tech bros who bought themselves a presidency? With all the lawsuits and investigations against Musk and his companies, he took a punt and all of that just magically melts away. Money well spent, right?
I’m generally done with predicting ANY outcome amid the batshit quagmire of American politics. But I’ll give it one last shot today - Shitler won’t serve a full term. (imo) It won’t be too long before his diapered arse gets 25A-ed and Musk’s boy JD will get an upgrade.
There is always dark money in politics, at least ours..
I am a little worried about us becoming more of an oligarchy, like Russia. But our constitution is a pretty revered document. I don't see something crazy like a 3rd Trump term, or handing the reins over to one of his sons..
Musk and others have been a target in part because of their antics, but also in part because they won't shut up and fall in line. X is problematic for any government that is used to having some control over what is being said. There's a reason you can't use it in China..
As Bill Maher said months ago, "I'm generally on Elon's side, but he makes it difficult at times"..
Anonymous said
Nov 8 4:31 PM, 2024
Maddog wrote:
Vam wrote:
@MD…”I‘ll be damned”…um yeah, you sure might be!
Do you agree that the real election winners are Musk, Thiel & all the dark money tech bros who bought themselves a presidency? With all the lawsuits and investigations against Musk and his companies, he took a punt and all of that just magically melts away. Money well spent, right?
I’m generally done with predicting ANY outcome amid the batshit quagmire of American politics. But I’ll give it one last shot today - Shitler won’t serve a full term. (imo) It won’t be too long before his diapered arse gets 25A-ed and Musk’s boy JD will get an upgrade.
There is always dark money in politics, at least ours..
I am a little worried about us becoming more of an oligarchy, like Russia. But our constitution is a pretty revered document. I don't see something crazy like a 3rd Trump term, or handing the reins over to one of his sons..
Musk and others have been a target in part because of their antics, but also in part because they won't shut up and fall in line. X is problematic for any government that is used to having some control over what is being said. There's a reason you can't use it in China..
As Bill Maher said months ago, "I'm generally on Elon's side, but he makes it difficult at times"..
Yeah, Musk is unparalleled on all the space stuff, but he’s a coke and ketamine-addled wrecking ball in every other aspect! Musk and Thiel are not US-born citizens, so are ineligible to run for the presidency. The next best thing for these megalomaniacs is to ’buy’ themselves a shadow presidency, via an easily corruptible and transactional useful idiot like trump.
I sense trump is rapidly outliving his usefulness. I believe the plan all along has been to bin him (if he doesn’t croak first), and then install their boy. That’s why I don’t see trump serving a full term.
Time will tell, I guess …
(oh yeah, and lotsa luck with his friggin Tariffs! I’d love to know the price hike on your imported chia seeds, after he slaps a 50% tariff on them )
Digger said
Nov 8 6:22 PM, 2024
It's been very amusing watching the luvvies all have a melt down. How humiliating for them after all the narcissistic lobbying, pearl clutching and self aggrandizing Kamala promoting shite they've been chucking around for months.
In the end, their opinions didn't matter which highlights better than anything how disconnected they are from the reality of life for the majority of Americans.
jackb said
Nov 8 6:37 PM, 2024
I think woke killed them.
Syl said
Nov 8 6:47 PM, 2024
Digger wrote:
It's been very amusing watching the luvvies all have a melt down. How humiliating for them after all the narcissistic lobbying, pearl clutching and self aggrandizing Kamala promoting shite they've been chucking around for months.
In the end, their opinions didn't matter which highlights better than anything how disconnected they are from the reality of life for the majority of Americans.
There was a time, not that long ago, when celebrities were ridiculed for giving their opinions on political matters. Now they actively get involved, even when I doubt some of them know the first thing about what or who they are supporting.
People like Taylor Swift for eg, she can influence millions of people just by posing next to someone or bad mouthing someone else. They were all out in force over the last few months, it didn't really help Kamala this time round though.
Anonymous said
Nov 8 8:22 PM, 2024
Digger wrote:
It's been very amusing watching the luvvies all have a melt down. How humiliating for them after all the narcissistic lobbying, pearl clutching and self aggrandizing Kamala promoting shite they've been chucking around for months.
In the end, their opinions didn't matter which highlights better than anything how disconnected they are from the reality of life for the majority of Americans.
Sadly for Americans the reality of life is that soon they'll have a dangerous megalomaniac in charge. Oh well, it's what they've asked for.
Anonymous said
Nov 9 1:18 PM, 2024
Anonymous wrote:
Digger wrote:
It's been very amusing watching the luvvies all have a melt down. How humiliating for them after all the narcissistic lobbying, pearl clutching and self aggrandizing Kamala promoting shite they've been chucking around for months.
In the end, their opinions didn't matter which highlights better than anything how disconnected they are from the reality of life for the majority of Americans.
Sadly for Americans the reality of life is that soon they'll have a dangerous megalomaniac in charge. Oh well, it's what they've asked for.
I’d say make that 3 dangerous megalomaniacs in charge - in the following order:
1 Putin
2 Musk
3 their flying monkey
Anonymous said
Nov 9 3:15 PM, 2024
Digger wrote:
It's been very amusing watching the luvvies all have a melt down. How humiliating for them after all the narcissistic lobbying, pearl clutching and self aggrandizing Kamala promoting shite they've been chucking around for months.
In the end, their opinions didn't matter which highlights better than anything how disconnected they are from the reality of life for the majority of Americans.
I bet your 30 year old self would be horrified looking at these comments. There’s a bitterness but can’t quite put my finger on it.
Digger said
Nov 9 5:24 PM, 2024
Anonymous wrote:
Digger wrote:
It's been very amusing watching the luvvies all have a melt down. How humiliating for them after all the narcissistic lobbying, pearl clutching and self aggrandizing Kamala promoting shite they've been chucking around for months.
In the end, their opinions didn't matter which highlights better than anything how disconnected they are from the reality of life for the majority of Americans.
I bet your 30 year old self would be horrified looking at these comments. There’s a bitterness but can’t quite put my finger on it.
My 30 year old self?
I doubt all ten fingers and toes can't get it right.
Anonymous said
Nov 10 12:34 AM, 2024
Harris is still in power so I wonder will she push through just one of these polices she was going to do if she the presidency?
Some how I doubt it lol.
She spent a billion dollars and ended up 20 million in debt. Someone needs to look into where the money went
Their computers don't last compared to other makes. I've had several Apple computers, and swore I'd use nothing else because the OS is great but they lasted a few years then broke. After 4 or 5 laptops, I threw in the towel. The phone batteries are crap.
Whether Trump likes it or not China is now the factory of the world.
I'm old enough to remember when everyone everywhere wanted to see made in England stamped on their goods.
It won't be coming home.
The number of meltdowns on Twitter is growing by the hour!!
And build it and defend it on Europe's dime..
This explains a lot.
The woman on the left seems to speak for a lot of women, based on the graph on the right.
For the record, Hillary and Trump basically split white women 50-50, 8 years ago.
Kamala lost them..
A lot of women aren't buying into this nonsense they are being oppressed and men are evil.
-- Edited by Maddog on Thursday 7th of November 2024 06:28:32 PM
It's ok you know...
I wrote in my grand daughters.
I usually vote libertarian and did for s few other races..
Hiya. Maybe you missed my post to you on the previous page? No problem if you can’t be arsed to get into it, but I‘d be interested in your take on the Musk/Thiel/JD trifecta.
There is always dark money in politics, at least ours..
I am a little worried about us becoming more of an oligarchy, like Russia. But our constitution is a pretty revered document. I don't see something crazy like a 3rd Trump term, or handing the reins over to one of his sons..
Musk and others have been a target in part because of their antics, but also in part because they won't shut up and fall in line. X is problematic for any government that is used to having some control over what is being said. There's a reason you can't use it in China..
As Bill Maher said months ago, "I'm generally on Elon's side, but he makes it difficult at times"..
Yeah, Musk is unparalleled on all the space stuff, but he’s a coke and ketamine-addled wrecking ball in every other aspect! Musk and Thiel are not US-born citizens, so are ineligible to run for the presidency. The next best thing for these megalomaniacs is to ’buy’ themselves a shadow presidency, via an easily corruptible and transactional useful idiot like trump.
I sense trump is rapidly outliving his usefulness. I believe the plan all along has been to bin him (if he doesn’t croak first), and then install their boy. That’s why I don’t see trump serving a full term.
Time will tell, I guess …
(oh yeah, and lotsa luck with his friggin Tariffs! I’d love to know the price hike on your imported chia seeds, after he slaps a 50% tariff on them
)
It's been very amusing watching the luvvies all have a melt down. How humiliating for them after all the narcissistic lobbying, pearl clutching and self aggrandizing Kamala promoting shite they've been chucking around for months.
In the end, their opinions didn't matter which highlights better than anything how disconnected they are from the reality of life for the majority of Americans.
There was a time, not that long ago, when celebrities were ridiculed for giving their opinions on political matters. Now they actively get involved, even when I doubt some of them know the first thing about what or who they are supporting.
People like Taylor Swift for eg, she can influence millions of people just by posing next to someone or bad mouthing someone else. They were all out in force over the last few months, it didn't really help Kamala this time round though.
Sadly for Americans the reality of life is that soon they'll have a dangerous megalomaniac in charge. Oh well, it's what they've asked for.
I’d say make that 3 dangerous megalomaniacs in charge - in the following order:
1 Putin
2 Musk
3 their flying monkey
I bet your 30 year old self would be horrified looking at these comments. There’s a bitterness but can’t quite put my finger on it.
My 30 year old self?
I doubt all ten fingers and toes can't get it right.
Harris is still in power so I wonder will she push through just one of these polices she was going to do if she the presidency?
Some how I doubt it lol.
She spent a billion dollars and ended up 20 million in debt. Someone needs to look into where the money went
🙄