Thank you so much for letting me know about this compelling highly relevant drama Magica! x. Brad Pitt produced it but kept his involvement rather quiet.I binge watched three episodes last night. The 3rd episode in particular was difficult viewing when Jamie's mask slipped. I thought it was clever the way the creepy treatment of the female psychologist by the CCTV guy was aligned alongside the heinous crime Jamie had committed, showing the sliding scale of misogyny and how it is rife in many facets of society. She had to tolerate the man openly staring at her and invading her space just to do her job. When the persona of the sweet vulnerable boy we had met in episode 1 evaporated it was genuinely chilling. The young actor is very talented and I do hope he achieves critical acclaim for this role.
It's about time the impact of the Manosphere and the damaging rhetoric spouted by the likes of Andrew Tate was highlighted. Teenagers and young men who consume this sinister content along with violent p*pornography don't view women as people just objects. They are told status and looks is everything , hence why Jamie believed he was ugly. Incel culture advises unattractive boys try to achieve a more superior jasmine with a stapler. Race is irrelevant when it comes to the misogynistic incels who loathe women. The real life incel killings in America and the UK who used guns to fatally wound women, teenage girls, and babies have all been committed by white or Asian men. Since there is no way to police the internet and certainly no way to change the violence against women in p*rn that men and 13 year old boys clearly enjoy and want to see , I don't know how the dangerous Incel culture will change. Racist content is removed from social media platforms, ditto homophobic content but misogynistic content never.
Magica said
Mar 19 3:10 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
The TV drama 'Three girls' was about the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs, it concentrated on a small area though in Rochdale, the scale of the grooming and rapes throughout the country were not really highlighted. As the credits rolled, a list of all the towns and cities where these gangs operated, were charged, and found guilty came up. Since the list was compiled eight years ago, many more gangs have been uncovered in various other places across the UK.
The TV drama 'Three girls' was about the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs, it concentrated on a small area though in Rochdale, the scale of the grooming and rapes throughout the country were not really highlighted. As the credits rolled, a list of all the towns and cities where these gangs operated, were charged, and found guilty came up. Since the list was compiled eight years ago, many more gangs have been uncovered in various other places across the UK.
The TV drama 'Three girls' was about the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs, it concentrated on a small area though in Rochdale, the scale of the grooming and rapes throughout the country were not really highlighted. As the credits rolled, a list of all the towns and cities where these gangs operated, were charged, and found guilty came up. Since the list was compiled eight years ago, many more gangs have been uncovered in various other places across the UK.
It was made in 2017 long before the woke crap hit the fan.
Syl said
Mar 20 5:48 PM, 2025
Three girls also documented the trouble former DC Maggie Oliver had in getting these girls some sort of justice.
She has recently spoken about how these gangs are still operating throughout the UK, and how, years ago, she was warned by GMR's head of police to keep quiet or else she could face jail herself.
Magica said
Mar 20 5:55 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Three girls also documented the trouble former DC Maggie Oliver had in getting these girls some sort of justice. She has recently spoken about how these gangs are still operating throughout the UK, and how, years ago, she was warned by GMR's head of police to keep quiet or else she could face jail herself.
Bloody typical. That's because so many higher ups are bloody paedophiles!
Syl said
Mar 20 7:09 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Three girls also documented the trouble former DC Maggie Oliver had in getting these girls some sort of justice. She has recently spoken about how these gangs are still operating throughout the UK, and how, years ago, she was warned by GMR's head of police to keep quiet or else she could face jail herself.
Bloody typical. That's because so many higher ups are bloody paedophiles!
Also, the police and other authorities were afraid that highlighting the fact that these gangs were Muslim, and predominately from Pakistan, it would have worsened racial tension.
And we all know how that pans out.
Magica said
Mar 20 7:18 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Three girls also documented the trouble former DC Maggie Oliver had in getting these girls some sort of justice. She has recently spoken about how these gangs are still operating throughout the UK, and how, years ago, she was warned by GMR's head of police to keep quiet or else she could face jail herself.
Bloody typical. That's because so many higher ups are bloody paedophiles!
Also, the police and other authorities were afraid that highlighting the fact that these gangs were Muslim, and predominately from Pakistan, it would have worsened racial tension.
And we all know how that pans out.
Exactly!
Protecting them again 😠
Syl said
Apr 19 12:18 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Sods law that I just cancelled Netflix, I didn't see anything worth watching for ages, and now this comes. Adolescence was Stephen Grahams idea, and he co wrote it...I will wait for it to come to Channel 4 or somewhere.
Shame Syl, it would be right up your alley x
I finally got round to reinstating Netflix, mainly because I wanted to watch this, and of course, the new Black Mirror season.
So I sat through 4 gruelling hours of Adolescence last night, I just couldn't stop watching it. All the performances were outstanding, but if Stephen Graham doesn't get a BAFTA for his performance, there is no justice. His face when his son was being strip searched, when he saw the video at the police station, and realised his son had stabbed the girl, and the heartbreaking last 5 minutes, when he went into his sons bedroom, it was almost too painful to watch.
I can understand why this may be shown in schools, maybe in front of the parents too, so they can watch it together and discuss the topics that the drama highlighted.
I have a son and grandsons, and I think every parent and grandparent can learn something from this....the world has changed so much since my own son was a teenager.
Red Okktober said
Apr 19 12:34 PM, 2025
I thought episodes 1 to 3 were brilliant. For me episode 4 was quite dull though and a bit of a let down.
I know it was meant to be the family trying to have a normal family day - but it was too normal for TV entertainment. Centred around a boring drive to the paint store, with very dull conversation - I thought that recollection of how the mum and dad met at the school disco was never going to end. It had it's moments, but was far too slow.
Syl said
Apr 19 12:41 PM, 2025
Red Okktober wrote:
I thought episodes 1 to 3 were brilliant. For me episode 4 was quite dull though and a bit of a let down.
I know it was meant to be the family trying to have a normal family day - but it was too normal for TV entertainment. Centred around a boring drive to the paint store, with very dull conversation - I thought that recollection of how the mum and dad met at the school disco was never going to end. It had it's moments, but was far too slow.
I agree, the 4th part, when they were in the house initially, then in the car chatting, was a bit of a letdown. I was expecting a court case, some consequence for the boys crime to be shown, but it didn't go down that road, just the phone call from the lad to tell his dad he was finally going to plead guilty.
The last 15 minutes was so powerful though...it made up for the rest....and if that was a families horrendous reality, I imagine that's exactly how parents would act and feel.
Magica said
Apr 19 10:36 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Sods law that I just cancelled Netflix, I didn't see anything worth watching for ages, and now this comes. Adolescence was Stephen Grahams idea, and he co wrote it...I will wait for it to come to Channel 4 or somewhere.
Shame Syl, it would be right up your alley x
I finally got round to reinstating Netflix, mainly because I wanted to watch this, and of course, the new Black Mirror season.
So I sat through 4 gruelling hours of Adolescence last night, I just couldn't stop watching it. All the performances were outstanding, but if Stephen Graham doesn't get a BAFTA for his performance, there is no justice. His face when his son was being strip searched, when he saw the video at the police station, and realised his son had stabbed the girl, and the heartbreaking last 5 minutes, when he went into his sons bedroom, it was almost too painful to watch.
I can understand why this may be shown in schools, maybe in front of the parents too, so they can watch it together and discuss the topics that the drama highlighted.
I have a son and grandsons, and I think every parent and grandparent can learn something from this....the world has changed so much since my own son was a teenager.
I agree Syl great show!
The acting was brilliant throughout. I could feel Stephen's pain at the end when in tears on the bed.
The whole story was a learning curve imo.
Syl said
Apr 21 11:25 AM, 2025
What is the 'learning curve' though?
That boy had anger issues, he was 13 and unsupervised out alone at night....surely it's just good parenting to know where your kids are at night, and to notice uncontrolled anger issues.
I don't doubt it's incredibly hard to police what a 13 year old watches online, even if there is parental guidance on what they use at home, stuff gets circulated around outside the home.
When porn is so readily available, when you hear of young schoolgirls sending nude pics to boys, which then gets passed around, is it any wonder, prompted by the likes of Andrew Tate who has millions of young followers being corrupted by his misogynistic tirades, that some young kids have distorted views of how decent relationships are built.
Magica said
Apr 21 12:14 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
What is the 'learning curve' though?
That boy had anger issues, he was 13 and unsupervised out alone at night....surely it's just good parenting to know where your kids are at night, and to notice uncontrolled anger issues.
I don't doubt it's incredibly hard to police what a 13 year old watches online, even if there is parental guidance on what they use at home, stuff gets circulated around outside the home. When porn is so readily available, when you hear of young schoolgirls sending nude pics to boys, which then gets passed around, is it any wonder, prompted by the likes of Andrew Tate who has millions of young followers being corrupted by his misogynistic tirades, that some young kids have distorted views of how decent relationships are built.
I think parents should over look what their children are viewing on line, a learning curve for them.
Internet has ruined many lives. Bullying kids, suicide, abuse, all there.
This show has taught me Incel, had no idea about it.
Syl said
Apr 21 12:33 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
What is the 'learning curve' though?
That boy had anger issues, he was 13 and unsupervised out alone at night....surely it's just good parenting to know where your kids are at night, and to notice uncontrolled anger issues.
I don't doubt it's incredibly hard to police what a 13 year old watches online, even if there is parental guidance on what they use at home, stuff gets circulated around outside the home. When porn is so readily available, when you hear of young schoolgirls sending nude pics to boys, which then gets passed around, is it any wonder, prompted by the likes of Andrew Tate who has millions of young followers being corrupted by his misogynistic tirades, that some young kids have distorted views of how decent relationships are built.
I think parents should over look what their children are viewing on line, a learning curve for them.
Internet has ruined many lives. Bullying kids, suicide, abuse, all there.
This show has taught me Incel, had no idea about it.
Like I said Mags, parents have the power to limit what their kids look at online in the home...not so much out of it.
I agree that the Internet, brilliant though it is, has cause so many problems for kids...and adults too. There are always like-minded weirdos who can 'meet' online and make the abnormal seem normal.
Whoever coined the phrase 80% of women are only interested in 20% of men, has bred a lot of hatred against women...especially if you feel you are in the 80% of men who women shun.
When kids who are just beginning to feel interest in the opposite sex hear that, along with the false images they see of girls and women...it can obviously affect a minority.
Magica said
Apr 21 1:35 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
What is the 'learning curve' though?
That boy had anger issues, he was 13 and unsupervised out alone at night....surely it's just good parenting to know where your kids are at night, and to notice uncontrolled anger issues.
I don't doubt it's incredibly hard to police what a 13 year old watches online, even if there is parental guidance on what they use at home, stuff gets circulated around outside the home. When porn is so readily available, when you hear of young schoolgirls sending nude pics to boys, which then gets passed around, is it any wonder, prompted by the likes of Andrew Tate who has millions of young followers being corrupted by his misogynistic tirades, that some young kids have distorted views of how decent relationships are built.
I think parents should over look what their children are viewing on line, a learning curve for them.
Internet has ruined many lives. Bullying kids, suicide, abuse, all there.
This show has taught me Incel, had no idea about it.
Like I said Mags, parents have the power to limit what their kids look at online in the home...not so much out of it.
I agree that the Internet, brilliant though it is, has cause so many problems for kids...and adults too. There are always like-minded weirdos who can 'meet' online and make the abnormal seem normal.
Whoever coined the phrase 80% of women are only interested in 20% of men, has bred a lot of hatred against women...especially if you feel you are in the 80% of men who women shun.
When kids who are just beginning to feel interest in the opposite sex hear that, along with the false images they see of girls and women...it can obviously affect a minority.
We are singing from the same sheet Syl. X
Syl said
Apr 21 1:42 PM, 2025
I know that, I just wondered if you had any thoughts on how to educate young kids.
My only advice is lead from example, and keep a close eye on how kids, girls and boys, are acting.
Magica said
Apr 21 2:33 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
I know that, I just wondered if you had any thoughts on how to educate young kids. My only advice is lead from example, and keep a close eye on how kids, girls and boys, are acting.
Educating them to the dangers of the internet must start at home. Also educate them in schools. Talk about it, tell kids the dangers.
Not allow kids to have phones at school, especially in class. We didn't have nor needed them when kids.
Get kids off computers/phones and outside. Parks, clubs, meet people not those you meet on the internet rooms.
That's my take on it Syl. Doubt it will ever happen though.
Syl said
Apr 21 4:40 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
I know that, I just wondered if you had any thoughts on how to educate young kids. My only advice is lead from example, and keep a close eye on how kids, girls and boys, are acting.
Educating them to the dangers of the internet must start at home. Also educate them in schools. Talk about it, tell kids the dangers.
Not allow kids to have phones at school, especially in class. We didn't have nor needed them when kids.
Get kids off computers/phones and outside. Parks, clubs, meet people not those you meet on the internet rooms.
That's my take on it Syl. Doubt it will ever happen though.
It would be good if we could turn the clock back to pre internet days in some respects.
I have said before, when my grandsons were 11 and 13, never off the internet at home, for the next 10 years they spent loads of time at the caravan in Wales, internet connection was rubbish, and they would moan for the first hour, then spend days doing what kids should be doing.
They still talk about those times as some of the happiest times they have had.
Digger said
Apr 21 5:13 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
What is the 'learning curve' though?
That boy had anger issues, he was 13 and unsupervised out alone at night....surely it's just good parenting to know where your kids are at night, and to notice uncontrolled anger issues.
I don't doubt it's incredibly hard to police what a 13 year old watches online, even if there is parental guidance on what they use at home, stuff gets circulated around outside the home. When porn is so readily available, when you hear of young schoolgirls sending nude pics to boys, which then gets passed around, is it any wonder, prompted by the likes of Andrew Tate who has millions of young followers being corrupted by his misogynistic tirades, that some young kids have distorted views of how decent relationships are built.
The learning curve, if you disregard this work of fiction with its socio-political agenda is that parents should have more control over their kids.
Still going.on! 👿
I haven't seen three girls, will look for.it. X
We both thought the same thing at the same time.
It was made in 2017 long before the woke crap hit the fan.
She has recently spoken about how these gangs are still operating throughout the UK, and how, years ago, she was warned by GMR's head of police to keep quiet or else she could face jail herself.
Bloody typical. That's because so many higher ups are bloody paedophiles!
Also, the police and other authorities were afraid that highlighting the fact that these gangs were Muslim, and predominately from Pakistan, it would have worsened racial tension.
And we all know how that pans out.
Exactly!
Protecting them again 😠
I finally got round to reinstating Netflix, mainly because I wanted to watch this, and of course, the new Black Mirror season.
So I sat through 4 gruelling hours of Adolescence last night, I just couldn't stop watching it. All the performances were outstanding, but if Stephen Graham doesn't get a BAFTA for his performance, there is no justice. His face when his son was being strip searched, when he saw the video at the police station, and realised his son had stabbed the girl, and the heartbreaking last 5 minutes, when he went into his sons bedroom, it was almost too painful to watch.
I can understand why this may be shown in schools, maybe in front of the parents too, so they can watch it together and discuss the topics that the drama highlighted.
I have a son and grandsons, and I think every parent and grandparent can learn something from this....the world has changed so much since my own son was a teenager.
I know it was meant to be the family trying to have a normal family day - but it was too normal for TV entertainment. Centred around a boring drive to the paint store, with very dull conversation - I thought that recollection of how the mum and dad met at the school disco was never going to end. It had it's moments, but was far too slow.
I agree, the 4th part, when they were in the house initially, then in the car chatting, was a bit of a letdown. I was expecting a court case, some consequence for the boys crime to be shown, but it didn't go down that road, just the phone call from the lad to tell his dad he was finally going to plead guilty.
The last 15 minutes was so powerful though...it made up for the rest....and if that was a families horrendous reality, I imagine that's exactly how parents would act and feel.
I agree Syl great show!
The acting was brilliant throughout. I could feel Stephen's pain at the end when in tears on the bed.
The whole story was a learning curve imo.
That boy had anger issues, he was 13 and unsupervised out alone at night....surely it's just good parenting to know where your kids are at night, and to notice uncontrolled anger issues.
I don't doubt it's incredibly hard to police what a 13 year old watches online, even if there is parental guidance on what they use at home, stuff gets circulated around outside the home.
When porn is so readily available, when you hear of young schoolgirls sending nude pics to boys, which then gets passed around, is it any wonder, prompted by the likes of Andrew Tate who has millions of young followers being corrupted by his misogynistic tirades, that some young kids have distorted views of how decent relationships are built.
I think parents should over look what their children are viewing on line, a learning curve for them.
Internet has ruined many lives. Bullying kids, suicide, abuse, all there.
This show has taught me Incel, had no idea about it.
Like I said Mags, parents have the power to limit what their kids look at online in the home...not so much out of it.
I agree that the Internet, brilliant though it is, has cause so many problems for kids...and adults too. There are always like-minded weirdos who can 'meet' online and make the abnormal seem normal.
Whoever coined the phrase 80% of women are only interested in 20% of men, has bred a lot of hatred against women...especially if you feel you are in the 80% of men who women shun.
When kids who are just beginning to feel interest in the opposite sex hear that, along with the false images they see of girls and women...it can obviously affect a minority.
We are singing from the same sheet Syl. X
My only advice is lead from example, and keep a close eye on how kids, girls and boys, are acting.
Educating them to the dangers of the internet must start at home. Also educate them in schools. Talk about it, tell kids the dangers.
Not allow kids to have phones at school, especially in class. We didn't have nor needed them when kids.
Get kids off computers/phones and outside. Parks, clubs, meet people not those you meet on the internet rooms.
That's my take on it Syl. Doubt it will ever happen though.
It would be good if we could turn the clock back to pre internet days in some respects.
I have said before, when my grandsons were 11 and 13, never off the internet at home, for the next 10 years they spent loads of time at the caravan in Wales, internet connection was rubbish, and they would moan for the first hour, then spend days doing what kids should be doing.
They still talk about those times as some of the happiest times they have had.
The learning curve, if you disregard this work of fiction with its socio-political agenda is that parents should have more control over their kids.