That poster probably originated from either a jealous woman or a rabid woman hater.
-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 19th of April 2025 12:21:46 PM
Maddog said
Apr 18 6:30 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
That poster probably originated from either a jealous woman or a rabid woman hater.
What would there be, to be jealous of?
Ella Fitzgerald was born a few years before Marilyn. She too was an orphan that lived on the streets after running away from an orphanage.
But being a less than beautiful black woman, she couldn't use sex as a tool to get what she wanted from powerful, married men. She had to actually BE amazing, not just look amazing..
I could walk down the street in Manchester, swing a dead cat and hit 3 women more amazing than Marilyn, in about 15 seconds..
-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 19th of April 2025 12:22:20 PM
Dolly has made millions and spent it helping others. As far as I know she didn't sleep her way to the top (she has looks no doubt).
No one has ever said she was difficult to work with. She managed to stay married to one man for decades until his recent death.
There are thousands of lives directly impacted by her generosity and philanthropy..
I think that puts her in the amazing category.
Dolly Parton and Ella Fitzgerald are and we're amazing women too.
That doesn’t detract from a single thing I said about Marilyn Monroe.
Anonymous said
Apr 19 6:27 AM, 2025
Syl wrote:
That poster probably originated from either a jealous woman or a rabid woman hater.
And recirculated by misogynists.
Syl said
Apr 19 11:39 AM, 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
That poster probably originated from either a jealous woman or a rabid woman hater.
And recirculated by misogynists.
I think, so many people just concentrated on her looks. She was much more than a lovely looking woman though, like Princess Diana, she had a vulnerability, an essence about her that transcended the physical.
People who make disparaging comments about her, 60 odd years after her death, are, imo, possibly people who were jealous of her beauty or pissed off that a woman like that would never look at them twice.
Vam said
Apr 19 4:35 PM, 2025
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first African American woman to be appointed to the US Supreme Court.
A supremely intelligent woman of impeccable credentials, stellar judicial experience, and a deep reverence for the American Constitution.
That a woman of her calibre was able to withstand and rise above the feral humiliation those degenerate Republican senators** put her through at her confirmation hearing, makes her an ‘amazing woman’ in my view.
I‘ll always be in awe of her.
** including, but not limited to, one of the biggest dickheads in the US senate - Ted Cruz (from 9 minutes in)
-- Edited by Vam on Saturday 19th of April 2025 04:44:03 PM
Syl said
Apr 19 4:44 PM, 2025
Rosa Parks...Another black American woman who made her place in history.
Maddog said
Apr 19 4:59 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Rosa Parks...Another black American woman who made her place in history.
She actually stood tall in the face of great adversity and didn't climb into a bottle of pills and become a problem for everyone around her in personal and professional relationships.
Marilyn accomplished about as much as Markle..
Vam said
Apr 19 5:01 PM, 2025
🎯👏🏻👏🏻 yes!
Syl, when you get a moment, you should maybe check out the last 6 minutes of the vid I posted. You’d need a heart of stone not to be moved by her words at the end
Anonymous said
Apr 19 5:02 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Rosa Parks...Another black American woman who made her place in history.
She actually stood tall in the face of great adversity and didn't climb into a bottle of pills and become a problem for everyone around her in personal and professional relationships.
Marilyn accomplished about as much as Markle..
Get over it mate.
Maddog said
Apr 19 5:02 PM, 2025
Vam wrote:
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first African American woman to be appointed to the US Supreme Court.
A supremely intelligent woman of impeccable credentials, stellar judicial experience, and a deep reverence for the American Constitution.
That a woman of her calibre was able to withstand and rise above the feral humiliation those degenerate Republican senators** put her through at her confirmation hearing, makes her an ‘amazing woman’ in my view.
I‘ll always be in awe of her.
** including, but not limited to, one of the biggest dickheads in the US senate - Ted Cruz (from 9 minutes in)
-- Edited by Vam on Saturday 19th of April 2025 04:44:03 PM
She's an attorney. She has likely dished out worse in a court room and every nominee gets eviscerated now.
It's part of our constant, relentless battle in all forms of governance..
Vam said
Apr 19 5:09 PM, 2025
@ MD…My turn to do this ➡️ 🙄🙄🙄
And I‘ll say this with love and affection: fuck right off with your whataboutery.
Maddog said
Apr 19 5:16 PM, 2025
Vam wrote:
@ MD…My turn to do this ➡️ 🙄🙄🙄
And I‘ll say this with love and affection: fuck right off with your whataboutery.
It's not whataboutery.
Our government is toxic and anyone who goes through the confirmation process is in for a bad time..
You're cherry picking the events that feed your bias, which keeps feeding the whole process.
Maddog said
Apr 19 5:27 PM, 2025
"But, as the papers fluttered down to the ground, she was watched by a caretaker who betrayed her to the Gestapo - the secret police.
She and her brother were interrogated and, after a show trial, sentenced to death. They refused to betray the rest of the group but the authorities tracked them down anyway. Within a few months the friends had all been executed.
On the morning that she went to the guillotine, Sophie, aged 21, said:
"Such a fine, sunny day, and I have to go... What does my death matter, if through us, thousands of people are awakened and stirred to action?""
And I‘ll say this with love and affection: fuck right off with your whataboutery.
It's not whataboutery.
Our government is toxic and anyone who goes through the confirmation process is in for a bad time..
You're cherry picking the events that feed your bias, which keeps feeding the whole process.
I’m really not doing that.
I have absolutely no problem with a judge who’s reached the pinnacle of her career, being questioned on some of her rulings. Call me naive but - at that level - I would expect US senators to show at least a modicum of restraint and respect towards a woman whose accomplishments they could never hope to aspire to in the next 2 lifetimes.
Instead we saw a performative pantomime to entertain the Neon God they made, and aiming for a viral moment and a slot on the Fox News bullshit factory (<< THAT’S my bias )
Maddog said
Apr 19 5:59 PM, 2025
Vam wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Vam wrote:
@ MD…My turn to do this ➡️ 🙄🙄🙄
And I‘ll say this with love and affection: fuck right off with your whataboutery.
It's not whataboutery.
Our government is toxic and anyone who goes through the confirmation process is in for a bad time..
You're cherry picking the events that feed your bias, which keeps feeding the whole process.
I’m really not doing that.
I have absolutely no problem with a judge who’s reached the pinnacle of her career, being questioned on some of her rulings. Call me naive but - at that level - I would expect US senators to show at least a modicum of restraint and respect towards a woman whose accomplishments they could never hope to aspire to in the next 2 lifetimes.
Instead we saw a performative pantomime to entertain the Neon God they made, and aiming for a viral moment and a slot on the Fox News bullshit factory (<< THAT’S my bias )
Why would you expect Senators to show respect when 90% of the population is baying for them to eviscerate the opposition?
Her mother was severely mentally ill. Her father was unknown.
Marilyn was raised in orphanages and fostered out, she was abused mentally, physically and sexually whilst still a child,.
She longed to be a mother, but had three miscarriages and never gave birth.
She was used and abused by men throughout her short career.
Her career lasted just 13 years, yet she became and still is the most famous star in the world.
She was dead, probably murdered! at the age of 36.
Some luck.
-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 19th of April 2025 12:21:04 PM
That poster probably originated from either a jealous woman or a rabid woman hater.
-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 19th of April 2025 12:21:46 PM
What would there be, to be jealous of?
Ella Fitzgerald was born a few years before Marilyn. She too was an orphan that lived on the streets after running away from an orphanage.
But being a less than beautiful black woman, she couldn't use sex as a tool to get what she wanted from powerful, married men. She had to actually BE amazing, not just look amazing..
I could walk down the street in Manchester, swing a dead cat and hit 3 women more amazing than Marilyn, in about 15 seconds..
-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 19th of April 2025 12:22:20 PM
Dolly has made millions and spent it helping others. As far as I know she didn't sleep her way to the top (she has looks no doubt).
No one has ever said she was difficult to work with. She managed to stay married to one man for decades until his recent death.
There are thousands of lives directly impacted by her generosity and philanthropy..
I think that puts her in the amazing category.
Dolly Parton and Ella Fitzgerald are and we're amazing women too.
That doesn’t detract from a single thing I said about Marilyn Monroe.
And recirculated by misogynists.
I think, so many people just concentrated on her looks. She was much more than a lovely looking woman though, like Princess Diana, she had a vulnerability, an essence about her that transcended the physical.
People who make disparaging comments about her, 60 odd years after her death, are, imo, possibly people who were jealous of her beauty or pissed off that a woman like that would never look at them twice.
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first African American woman to be appointed to the US Supreme Court.
A supremely intelligent woman of impeccable credentials, stellar judicial experience, and a deep reverence for the American Constitution.
That a woman of her calibre was able to withstand and rise above the feral humiliation those degenerate Republican senators** put her through at her confirmation hearing, makes her an ‘amazing woman’ in my view.
I‘ll always be in awe of her.
** including, but not limited to, one of the biggest dickheads in the US senate - Ted Cruz (from 9 minutes in)
-- Edited by Vam on Saturday 19th of April 2025 04:44:03 PM
Rosa Parks...Another black American woman who made her place in history.
She actually stood tall in the face of great adversity and didn't climb into a bottle of pills and become a problem for everyone around her in personal and professional relationships.
Marilyn accomplished about as much as Markle..
🎯👏🏻👏🏻 yes!
Syl, when you get a moment, you should maybe check out the last 6 minutes of the vid I posted. You’d need a heart of stone not to be moved by her words at the end
Get over it mate.
She's an attorney. She has likely dished out worse in a court room and every nominee gets eviscerated now.
It's part of our constant, relentless battle in all forms of governance..
@ MD…My turn to do this ➡️ 🙄🙄🙄
And I‘ll say this with love and affection: fuck right off with your whataboutery.
It's not whataboutery.
Our government is toxic and anyone who goes through the confirmation process is in for a bad time..
You're cherry picking the events that feed your bias, which keeps feeding the whole process.
She and her brother were interrogated and, after a show trial, sentenced to death. They refused to betray the rest of the group but the authorities tracked them down anyway. Within a few months the friends had all been executed.
On the morning that she went to the guillotine, Sophie, aged 21, said:
"Such a fine, sunny day, and I have to go... What does my death matter, if through us, thousands of people are awakened and stirred to action?""
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57008360
🤷
I’m really not doing that.
I have absolutely no problem with a judge who’s reached the pinnacle of her career, being questioned on some of her rulings. Call me naive but - at that level - I would expect US senators to show at least a modicum of restraint and respect towards a woman whose accomplishments they could never hope to aspire to in the next 2 lifetimes.
Instead we saw a performative pantomime to entertain the Neon God they made, and aiming for a viral moment and a slot on the Fox News bullshit factory (<< THAT’S my bias
)