I should be away right now, relaxing on the beach and eating tapas, drinking chilled wine, being waited on by a brown limbed thong wearing Adonis........ooops, got carried away with the last bit.
John Doe said
Nov 27 5:00 PM, 2020
Syl wrote:
Yeah probably.
Or.....Summer holidays.
I should be away right now, relaxing on the beach and eating tapas, drinking chilled wine, being waited on by a brown limbed thong wearing Adonis........ooops, got carried away with the last bit.
Don't be ashamed about fantasising about me - you are only human after all.
Syl said
Nov 27 5:42 PM, 2020
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Yeah probably.
Or.....Summer holidays.
I should be away right now, relaxing on the beach and eating tapas, drinking chilled wine, being waited on by a brown limbed thong wearing Adonis........ooops, got carried away with the last bit.
Don't be ashamed about fantasising about me - you are only human after all.
Oh shut up and refresh my glass.
Seriously, I should be away now, we go every year at this time.
JP said
Nov 27 5:54 PM, 2020
Syl wrote:
Yeah probably.
Or.....Summer holidays.
I should be away right now, relaxing on the beach and eating tapas, drinking chilled wine, being waited on by a brown limbed thong wearing Adonis........ooops, got carried away with the last bit.
That would be categorised as racist by some numpties.
Anonymous said
Nov 27 6:07 PM, 2020
JP wrote:
Syl wrote:
Yeah probably.
Or.....Summer holidays.
I should be away right now, relaxing on the beach and eating tapas, drinking chilled wine, being waited on by a brown limbed thong wearing Adonis........ooops, got carried away with the last bit.
That would be categorised as racist by some numpties.
.... I think she meant tanned!
Syl said
Nov 27 6:39 PM, 2020
Poca wrote:
JP wrote:
Syl wrote:
Yeah probably.
Or.....Summer holidays.
I should be away right now, relaxing on the beach and eating tapas, drinking chilled wine, being waited on by a brown limbed thong wearing Adonis........ooops, got carried away with the last bit.
That would be categorised as racist by some numpties.
.... I think she meant tanned!
Yes, but in reality.....who would be looking at his legs anyway?
John Doe said
Nov 27 6:49 PM, 2020
Syl wrote:
Poca wrote:
JP wrote:
Syl wrote:
Yeah probably.
Or.....Summer holidays.
I should be away right now, relaxing on the beach and eating tapas, drinking chilled wine, being waited on by a brown limbed thong wearing Adonis........ooops, got carried away with the last bit.
That would be categorised as racist by some numpties.
.... I think she meant tanned!
Yes, but in reality.....who would be looking at his legs anyway?
Madam.
Please desist from your ribald comments - I find them most offensive and an affront to this forum.
Digger said
Nov 27 7:53 PM, 2020
Syl wrote:
Poca wrote:
JP wrote:
Syl wrote:
Yeah probably.
Or.....Summer holidays.
I should be away right now, relaxing on the beach and eating tapas, drinking chilled wine, being waited on by a brown limbed thong wearing Adonis........ooops, got carried away with the last bit.
That would be categorised as racist by some numpties.
.... I think she meant tanned!
Yes, but in reality.....who would be looking at his legs anyway?
Most men look better covered up. Well, perhaps just a hint of hairy chest on show....
JP said
Nov 27 8:06 PM, 2020
Poca wrote:
JP wrote:
Syl wrote:
Yeah probably.
Or.....Summer holidays.
I should be away right now, relaxing on the beach and eating tapas, drinking chilled wine, being waited on by a brown limbed thong wearing Adonis........ooops, got carried away with the last bit.
That would be categorised as racist by some numpties.
.... I think she meant tanned!
Yeah. Context matters most.
Adonis being there says no offence is meant.
John Doe said
Nov 27 9:19 PM, 2020
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Poca wrote:
JP wrote:
Syl wrote:
Yeah probably.
Or.....Summer holidays.
I should be away right now, relaxing on the beach and eating tapas, drinking chilled wine, being waited on by a brown limbed thong wearing Adonis........ooops, got carried away with the last bit.
That would be categorised as racist by some numpties.
.... I think she meant tanned!
Yes, but in reality.....who would be looking at his legs anyway?
Most men look better covered up. Well, perhaps just a hint of hairy chest on show....
Syl said
Dec 1 5:51 PM, 2020
Random thought......How would you make this world a safer place to live?
John Doe said
Dec 1 7:42 PM, 2020
Syl wrote:
Random thought......How would you make this world a safer place to live?
It will no doubt be controversial but I would ban the indoctrination of young children by organised religion throughout the world until they were old enough to make a mature decision on whether to believe in the faith/God/Gods of their country or choose their own path.
I think 18 would be about right.
There will always be tribal/national conflict, war and genocide but the divisive effect of organised religion by it's very nature just makes things even worse.
"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."
Steven Weinberg.
-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 1st of December 2020 07:47:33 PM
Maddog said
Dec 1 10:38 PM, 2020
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Random thought......How would you make this world a safer place to live?
It will no doubt be controversial but I would ban the indoctrination of young children by organised religion throughout the world until they were old enough to make a mature decision on whether to believe in the faith/God/Gods of their country or choose their own path.
I think 18 would be about right.
There will always be tribal/national conflict, war and genocide but the divisive effect of organised religion by it's very nature just makes things even worse.
"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."
Steven Weinberg.
-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 1st of December 2020 07:47:33 PM
That was done in some of the most murderous places on the planet.
Add up the death toll from Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot.
Syl said
Dec 1 11:35 PM, 2020
Belief in a religion brings love and comfort to many millions of people all over the world, it's the way some use it to justify atrocities that make it a problem.
John Doe said
Dec 1 11:48 PM, 2020
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Random thought......How would you make this world a safer place to live?
It will no doubt be controversial but I would ban the indoctrination of young children by organised religion throughout the world until they were old enough to make a mature decision on whether to believe in the faith/God/Gods of their country or choose their own path.
I think 18 would be about right.
There will always be tribal/national conflict, war and genocide but the divisive effect of organised religion by it's very nature just makes things even worse.
"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."
Steven Weinberg.
-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 1st of December 2020 07:47:33 PM
That was done in some of the most murderous places on the planet.
Add up the death toll from Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot.
They were 'gods' in all but name much like the little fat bastard in N. Korea and Communism and Nazism were exactly like religions in that their belief system was promoted as the one true way and superior to all other points of view on pain of death (as it was until the Enlightenment in Europe and still is in much of the Middle East for example).
Oh and my idea does not ban religion - simply waiting until someone is old enough to make an informed decision (like the vote or marriage) seems quite reasonable to me.
But it will never happen.
Children soon grow out of Santa, the Tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny after all.
Religious institutions like the Catholic Church are not foolish - their wealth and their number of adherents would drop like a stone, far better to indoctrinate very young and malleable minds right from the start.
-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 1st of December 2020 11:52:41 PM
Syl said
Dec 2 12:22 AM, 2020
Random thought....
200 years ago there was approx 1 billion people in the world.
Today there is 7.8 billion, which is estimated to grow to 11 billion at the end of the century.
Before then I wonder how many more wars will be fought, oceans poluted, natural habitat for animal species ruined, and will starvation in third world countries spread further afield?
John Doe said
Dec 2 12:34 AM, 2020
Syl wrote:
Random thought.... 200 years ago there was approx 1 billion people in the world. Today there is 7.8 billion, which is estimated to grow to 11 billion at the end of the century.
Before then I wonder how many more wars will be fought, oceans poluted, natural habitat for animal species ruined, and will starvation in third world countries spread further afield?
It will be very grim indeed and the sixth mass extinction in earth's history will be raging at it's destructive peak.
I expect the Amazon and many other unique habitats will be gone, the last remaining megafauna will all be extinct in the wild and numerous eco-systems both terrestrial and marine will have totally collapsed.
Syl said
Dec 2 12:36 AM, 2020
I'm glad I wont be here.
Makes you think maybe pandemics will be natures way of culling.
Maddog said
Dec 2 1:17 AM, 2020
John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Random thought......How would you make this world a safer place to live?
It will no doubt be controversial but I would ban the indoctrination of young children by organised religion throughout the world until they were old enough to make a mature decision on whether to believe in the faith/God/Gods of their country or choose their own path.
I think 18 would be about right.
There will always be tribal/national conflict, war and genocide but the divisive effect of organised religion by it's very nature just makes things even worse.
"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."
Steven Weinberg.
-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 1st of December 2020 07:47:33 PM
That was done in some of the most murderous places on the planet.
Add up the death toll from Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot.
They were 'gods' in all but name much like the little fat bastard in N. Korea and Communism and Nazism were exactly like religions in that their belief system was promoted as the one true way and superior to all other points of view on pain of death (as it was until the Enlightenment in Europe and still is in much of the Middle East for example).
Oh and my idea does not ban religion - simply waiting until someone is old enough to make an informed decision (like the vote or marriage) seems quite reasonable to me.
But it will never happen.
Children soon grow out of Santa, the Tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny after all.
Religious institutions like the Catholic Church are not foolish - their wealth and their number of adherents would drop like a stone, far better to indoctrinate very young and malleable minds right from the start.
-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 1st of December 2020 11:52:41 PM
People in those places were to worship the state.
Faith in government killed more people than faith in a diety in the 20th century.
They would have been better off banning government, but that's not ever going to happen. Not with all the people that love worship it.
Maddog said
Dec 2 1:20 AM, 2020
Syl wrote:
Random thought.... 200 years ago there was approx 1 billion people in the world. Today there is 7.8 billion, which is estimated to grow to 11 billion at the end of the century.
Before then I wonder how many more wars will be fought, oceans poluted, natural habitat for animal species ruined, and will starvation in third world countries spread further afield?
Yeah probably.
Or.....Summer holidays.
I should be away right now, relaxing on the beach and eating tapas, drinking chilled wine, being waited on by a brown limbed thong wearing Adonis........ooops, got carried away with the last bit.
Don't be ashamed about fantasising about me - you are only human after all.
Oh shut up and refresh my glass.
Seriously, I should be away now, we go every year at this time.
That would be categorised as racist by some numpties.
Yes, but in reality.....who would be looking at his legs anyway?
Madam.
Please desist from your ribald comments - I find them most offensive and an affront to this forum.
Most men look better covered up. Well, perhaps just a hint of hairy chest on show....
Yeah. Context matters most.
Adonis being there says no offence is meant.
It will no doubt be controversial but I would ban the indoctrination of young children by organised religion throughout the world until they were old enough to make a mature decision on whether to believe in the faith/God/Gods of their country or choose their own path.
I think 18 would be about right.
There will always be tribal/national conflict, war and genocide but the divisive effect of organised religion by it's very nature just makes things even worse.
"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."
Steven Weinberg.
-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 1st of December 2020 07:47:33 PM
That was done in some of the most murderous places on the planet.
Add up the death toll from Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot.
They were 'gods' in all but name much like the little fat bastard in N. Korea and Communism and Nazism were exactly like religions in that their belief system was promoted as the one true way and superior to all other points of view on pain of death (as it was until the Enlightenment in Europe and still is in much of the Middle East for example).
Oh and my idea does not ban religion - simply waiting until someone is old enough to make an informed decision (like the vote or marriage) seems quite reasonable to me.
But it will never happen.
Children soon grow out of Santa, the Tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny after all.
Religious institutions like the Catholic Church are not foolish - their wealth and their number of adherents would drop like a stone, far better to indoctrinate very young and malleable minds right from the start.
-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 1st of December 2020 11:52:41 PM
200 years ago there was approx 1 billion people in the world.
Today there is 7.8 billion, which is estimated to grow to 11 billion at the end of the century.
Before then I wonder how many more wars will be fought, oceans poluted, natural habitat for animal species ruined, and will starvation in third world countries spread further afield?
It will be very grim indeed and the sixth mass extinction in earth's history will be raging at it's destructive peak.
I expect the Amazon and many other unique habitats will be gone, the last remaining megafauna will all be extinct in the wild and numerous eco-systems both terrestrial and marine will have totally collapsed.
Makes you think maybe pandemics will be natures way of culling.
People in those places were to worship the state.
Faith in government killed more people than faith in a diety in the 20th century.
They would have been better off banning government, but that's not ever going to happen. Not with all the people that love worship it.
Starvation is way down in the third world.