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OK, I went back and rewatched thinking I missed something.

I'm impressed with her moves that close to birth. Speaking of her moves they are fairly tame and she wasn't flashing a bunch of skin.

Are those moves unusual for millenials having a little silly time with their spouses?

I understand not liking her for her treatment of her in-laws, but I'm not sure this is a big deal..

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 It's a big deal when they want to be 'ambassadors' for the world while continuing to engage in global initiatives like the Invictus Games and diplomatic visits to countries such as Nigeria and Colombia.  She wants to swan around with the title Duchess with all its connotations of refinement, class, integrity and dignity, then posts herself and her half wit husband, who should know better, behaving like the hoi polloi trailer trash she considers her own family to be.  

Meghan proclaims she's a major advocate for mental health, family care, and gender equity (while cruelly ostracising her own elderly sick father).  The Duchess hopes to be a cultural catalyst for positive change, reflecting her core belief that representation matters, and that communities can be enhanced through learning, healing, and inspirational support.  In short, she aims to be an inspiration for others worldwide.   Who the hell wants to aspire to her vulgar spraddle legged posturings while supposedly in the process of bringing her child into the world?   Something that intimate and private - while also whining about having no privacy and being hounded by the media?   

World Vision has been Meghan's only real claim of volunteer work before she met Harry, unfortunately World Vision charities has a long history of paying celebrities to be ambassadors.  So that kind of kiboshed her image as some self sacrificing Mother Teresa/Diana Spencer wannabe.   She's full of narcissistic shit.  That's why people don't like her.

As for their infantile behaviour being explained because they're 'millennials'....what the fuck has that do with anything?   

Would it be OK for a world leader to post this kind of thing on social media?   Would that command any respect from other world leaders or  those who hold them in high esteem?  Or would people just turn away in embarrassment and disgust?   These two have touted themselves as just that - high achieving, moralistic, ground breaking, woke ambassadors to the world.   

 The thing about dignity is people can have definitions that vary. But you sure as hell recognise its absence. 

 

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 This wouldn't bother me one bit if Kate did it, nor would I think it was offensive. 

 

Obviously you don't do it at a State Dinner, but this was private time between a husband and a wife..

 

Maybe it's the American in me, but I don't expect different behavior out of someone because they were born to or married into a "special" family..

 

 

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 ”private time” implies keeping it to yourself not uploading online, but maybe that’s just me.

These two deluded grifters trying to be relevant is toe curling cringey. They really don’t have a clue as to how they come across to the majority of people.

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Isn't the whole royal family thing sort of a grifter gig?

 

And just being a royal makes you relevant. Whether it should is a different question..

 

Young people share their private time on social media all of the time. Ever hear of TikTok?

 

I think Markle is probably using the former prince, but on the other hand, I don't hear stories of her whoring around like the former prince's mother before her divorce. 

 

Maybe that sort of thing is considered acceptable for royals as long as it's done discreetly..🤷

 

 

 

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I think a lot of people who say they hate the Royals are embittered by how wealthy and privileged they are.

And each year, the royal family is responsible for generating millions of pounds worth of tourism for the United Kingdom.

While the average annual cost for UK taxpayers in royal upkeep comes to around £500m a year, Brand Finance estimates the monarchy’s brand contributes £2.5bn to the British economy in the same timeframe.

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All this judgement seems a bit harsh. What is the real reason people hate Meghan so much that the loathing endures so strongly? I'm not keen on her, she doesn't strike me as a particularly caring person. But I don't understand why people gleefully embrace the media stirring the pot about her year after year. I actually feel sorry for Harry. I think losing his mother so young and having to always maintain a dignified stance was difficult. He is emotional and passionate like his mother. People think it betrays his family that he wrote a book detailing how he felt yet the King betrayed his wife and sons by having an affair with our now Queen, saying he "wanted to be her tampon" in a phone conversation. I think that's more classless than some silly dancing. I actually like the Royals and the King but they have all made mistakes and there is blame to go round. Why is Meghan considered so much worse?

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 I don't care about her one way or the other, but I think the answer to your question is that people enjoy banding together to tear apart someone's character. It's a form of scapegoating where they can feel better about themselves by projecting their own negative qualities onto someone else. Decades ago when people lived differently it was housewives gossiping over the garden fence about that terrible person Mrs. so-and-so down the road. Nowadays it's done online like this. Either way, it's getting cathartic release from your own inner demons by vilifying someone else. 

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 Utter tosh. I’m able to dislike someone due to their tacky behaviour despite what others feel. Liking or disliking someone has nothing to do with how I feel about myself.

Their continual distasteful behaviour has proved that you can’t polish a turd, even a glittered turd is still a turd.

 

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 See wiki for 'psychological projection'. You only need to see the malicious comments, including yours, to get an idea of how it works.

How I love these armchair psychologists, especially the ones hiding behind Anon. 

A video like that privately shared between the couple in question, and maybe even to have a laugh with their inner circle of family/friends, is fine by me.

But my reaction to this video is the same as when I see other wannabe chancers publicly foisting their ‘intimate family moments‘ all over social media: They’re all complete strangers to me, so my reaction is always … ‘Ew!🫣 Buttock-clenching cringe!😖’

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How I love these armchair psychologists, especially the ones hiding behind Anon. 

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 Who knew, eh? 😂

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How I love these armchair psychologists, especially the ones hiding behind Anon. 

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 With respect, having a username doesn't make someone's views more sound. In fact if you take a look at some of your regulars' contributions you'll see some pretty flaky stuff there!

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How I love these armchair psychologists, especially the ones hiding behind Anon. 

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 With respect, having a username doesn't make someone's views more sound. In fact if you take a look at some of your regulars' contributions you'll see some pretty flaky stuff there!

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  At least they are being flaky standing by their own usernames.

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Harry is not a 'former' prince.
His mother had a husband who whored around before and during his marriage treating her like dirt. Like any woman with a backbone, she found love and affection outside of the marriage.

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 I thought he was kicked out of the family? 

 

Oh, I'm not saying Chuck was an upstanding man. I just figured royal protocol would require the divorce to preceed the new relationships. Anything else would be unseemly. 

 

It's obvious D and Chuck despised each other. On the other hand, Harry and Megs seem to get along pretty well. Even making silly videos together..

 

She may be a bitch, but she's the loyal kind of bitch that's there for her man.. And why shouldn't she. Unlike his father, Harry seems to be there for his wife..

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 Harry wasn't kicked anywhere.  He chose to leave but wanted to keep his royal perks and make money out of it.   The Queen said no, you can't have both.  Because the Royals don't get paid for royal duties.  You're either in or out.  They chose out.   And his father gave him money to the tune of millions and he also inherited 8.5 million off the Queen.  And still he whined that daddy was depriving him.

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 So he is a former prince. And his dad, who treated his mom poorly while whoring around, is now the king..

Harry may have chosen a bimbo, but he seems to treat her pretty well. 

I just think there is either a double standard or weird standards in terms of the Royals. Your last queen seemed like a decent human, and Kate and William seem likable, but Chuck and Di were a train wreck worse than Harry and Megs, and one is king and the other is revered..

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How I love these armchair psychologists, especially the ones hiding behind Anon. 

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 With respect, having a username doesn't make someone's views more sound. In fact if you take a look at some of your regulars' contributions you'll see some pretty flaky stuff there!

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A video like that privately shared between the couple in question, and maybe even to have a laugh with their inner circle of family/friends, is fine by me.

But my reaction to this video is the same as when I see other wannabe chancers publicly foisting their ‘intimate family moments‘ all over social media: They’re all complete strangers to me, so my reaction is always … ‘Ew!🫣 Buttock-clenching cringe!😖’

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 Want to know why you find it cringe?

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King Charles has always been weak. Probably the reason Queen Elizabeth remained monarch till her dying day. She had no safe hands to leave the crown to. Had Princess Anne been the elder, and had the law then allowed a female to inherit the title, she would have made a great successor to the throne.
Unfortunately, it was Charles job....and he chose Diana as his bride, and ruined her life too.

Prince Harry was born a prince, and so he remains one. And yes, he does treat his wife a lot better than his father treated his mother, sadly, he looks very henpecked, which is probably down to his vulnerability and her manipulation.

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 Amd I don't even know what Camilla is called, but she was banging a married prince and her reputation appears mended (better than Meg anyway)

There's seem to be a strong emphasis on decorum vs actions when judging these folks..

Fucking around is tolerable as long as you dress and act  modesty in public..

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King Charles has always been weak. Probably the reason Queen Elizabeth remained monarch till her dying day. She had no safe hands to leave the crown to. Had Princess Anne been the elder, and had the law then allowed a female to inherit the title, she would have made a great successor to the throne.
Unfortunately, it was Charles job....and he chose Diana as his bride, and ruined her life too.

Prince Harry was born a prince, and so he remains one. And yes, he does treat his wife a lot better than his father treated his mother, sadly, he looks very henpecked, which is probably down to his vulnerability and her manipulation.

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 Amd I don't even know what Camilla is called, but she was banging a married prince and her reputation appears mended (better than Meg anyway)

 

There's seem to be a strong emphasis on decorum vs actions when judging these folks..

 

Fucking around is tolerable as long as you dress and act  modesty in public..

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 I think you are wrong. One of the reasons people worldwide took Diana to their hearts, was because of the way she was treated by her husband. A lovely young girl, used to provide a heir and a spare, then publicly abandoned....her husband simply didn't love her.

Camilla will never be accepted by the majority as Queen, that's her title (in spite of the late Queens wishes) but that doesn't mean people like her.

Meghan was welcomed by millions, her own behaviour has turned the public against her.....Brits don't like manipulative liars, and it seems many Americans are sick to death of her too.

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King Charles has always been weak. Probably the reason Queen Elizabeth remained monarch till her dying day. She had no safe hands to leave the crown to. Had Princess Anne been the elder, and had the law then allowed a female to inherit the title, she would have made a great successor to the throne.
Unfortunately, it was Charles job....and he chose Diana as his bride, and ruined her life too.

Prince Harry was born a prince, and so he remains one. And yes, he does treat his wife a lot better than his father treated his mother, sadly, he looks very henpecked, which is probably down to his vulnerability and her manipulation.

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 Amd I don't even know what Camilla is called, but she was banging a married prince and her reputation appears mended (better than Meg anyway)

 

There's seem to be a strong emphasis on decorum vs actions when judging these folks..

 

Fucking around is tolerable as long as you dress and act  modesty in public..

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 I think you are wrong. One of the reasons people worldwide took Diana to their hearts, was because of the way she was treated by her husband. A lovely young girl, used to provide a heir and a spare, then publicly abandoned....her husband simply didn't love her.

Camilla will never be accepted by the majority as Queen, that's her title (in spite of the late Queens wishes) but that doesn't mean people like her.

Meghan was welcomed by millions, her own behaviour has turned the public against her.....Brits don't like manipulative liars, and it seems many Americans are sick to death of her too.

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 I think people who are into such things, respect Kate as much as they did Di, and from all accounts, William is 4 times the man that his father is..

I think Di is remembered so fondly because of her tragic death. 

Americans who give a shit about royalty, are probably about as equally divided as Brits..

You have to remember that many Americans find it positively un-American to give a shit about Royals and would be irritated by any and all of them taking up any bandwidth over here.

Many of us don't care one bit what Harry and Meghan do. We wouldn't mind if they did it in Canada or Australia.

TBH, if it weren't for this forum, I wouldn't have a clue what they are up to because no one I know talks about them. 

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 It’s the use of Wiki as a renowned medical resource that wowed me. I’m booking an appt asap.

No one in my life is interested in the royals either, and the only time I talk about them is on here. 

I have watched some vids about Meghan and Harry, because they push themselves forwards, Netflix, Podcasts etc....which forms my opinion of how bloody dreadful they act.

Princess Diana was different, she was young when I was young, she died young, and did so much good in her short life, but she was immensely popular before her death, not because of it. 

I agree that Kate, William and their kids all seem like decent people, and because of them, I imagine the royal family will continue to thrive for at least the next few decades.

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Maddog, Diana had affairs and did so because the man she loved was in love with another woman. Diana is universally adored and I think her death was tragic. But can you imagine how the pitchforks would come out if Meghan was unfaithful?? She's not even allowed to twerk! It is a bit hypocritical. I don't frequent social media often but am a millennial and so twerking Tik Tok challenges whilst not exactly sophisticated, don't bother me. The dancing itself wasn't a "private moment", unsavoury couples all over the globe were shamelessly doing this!! People who can't take the outrage on this occasion seriously accused of being Meghan fans is also a bit silly but it is what it is. I neither like or dislike her.

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 Yes, her death was tragic, and I do believe thats why she is so adored. 

 

Famous, attractive women who die way too young are usually respected far more after death than many similar women are respected while alive..

 

Marilyn Monroe is another example and Amy Winehouse to a lesser degree  

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 She was adored and respected by millions long before she died.

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King Charles has always been weak. Probably the reason Queen Elizabeth remained monarch till her dying day. She had no safe hands to leave the crown to. Had Princess Anne been the elder, and had the law then allowed a female to inherit the title, she would have made a great successor to the throne.
Unfortunately, it was Charles job....and he chose Diana as his bride, and ruined her life too.

Prince Harry was born a prince, and so he remains one. And yes, he does treat his wife a lot better than his father treated his mother, sadly, he looks very henpecked, which is probably down to his vulnerability and her manipulation.

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 Amd I don't even know what Camilla is called, but she was banging a married prince and her reputation appears mended (better than Meg anyway)

 

There's seem to be a strong emphasis on decorum vs actions when judging these folks..

 

Fucking around is tolerable as long as you dress and act  modesty in public..

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 I think you are wrong. One of the reasons people worldwide took Diana to their hearts, was because of the way she was treated by her husband. A lovely young girl, used to provide a heir and a spare, then publicly abandoned....her husband simply didn't love her.

Camilla will never be accepted by the majority as Queen, that's her title (in spite of the late Queens wishes) but that doesn't mean people like her.

Meghan was welcomed by millions, her own behaviour has turned the public against her.....Brits don't like manipulative liars, and it seems many Americans are sick to death of her too.

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 I think people who are into such things, respect Kate as much as they did Di, and from all accounts, William is 4 times the man that his father is..

 

I think Di is remembered so fondly because of her tragic death. 

 

Americans who give a shit about royalty, are probably about as equally divided as Brits..

 

You have to remember that many Americans find it positively un-American to give a shit about Royals and would be irritated by any and all of them taking up any bandwidth over here.

 

Many of us don't care one bit what Harry and Meghan do. We wouldn't mind if they did it in Canada or Australia.

 

TBH, if it weren't for this forum, I wouldn't have a clue what they are up to because no one I know talks about them. 

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I’ve been surprised over time to see the American tide turning…being embarrassed by her behaviour as much as Brits are with his.

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No one in my life is interested in the royals either, and the only time I talk about them is on here. 

I have watched some vids about Meghan and Harry, because they push themselves forwards, Netflix, Podcasts etc....which forms my opinion of how bloody dreadful they act.

Princess Diana was different, she was young when I was young, she died young, and did so much good in her short life, but she was immensely popular before her death, not because of it. 

I agree that Kate, William and their kids all seem like decent people, and because of them, I imagine the royal family will continue to thrive for at least the next few decades.

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 Princess Di was from a different time. I wonder how things would have played out if there was social media, the internet and podcasts when she was going through her affairs, divorce and relationships after the divorce..

Her and Dodi may have been Tweeting about the queen. 😉

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How I love these armchair psychologists, especially the ones hiding behind Anon. 

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 It’s the use of Wiki as a renowned medical resource that wowed me. I’m booking an appt asap.

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 There are many other sources available, but you sound like someone in denial so you probably wouldn't be interested anyway.