... people started to claim the 2020 election was stolen .... Hillary said the 2016 election was rigged, and just yesterday she predicted that the 2024 election will get stolen ....
.... 60 frivolous court challenges .... Trump-appointed judges .... Trump appointees .... grift .... Trump and fascist MAGA’s ..... continues to metastasise .....massive threat to national security his thievery ... batshit
.... I am not a Trump supporter!
The above is why I remain anonymous, never personalize, and learn when NOT to debate. Dogs is NOT a forum where one can debate politics and in the above engagement it is clear one person is unwilling to debate and is only making assertions and using those assertions to browbeat a fellow commentator. In the past commoners were not allowed to vote because they are easily manipulated by emotive spin and nonsense. Ancient Greeks experimented with many different governance systems and the weaknesses and dangers of democracy was well established. To debate you need two parties willing to debate but if one of the parties has been emotional hijacked by the peddlers of spin then discussion is IMPOSSIBLE. Divide and rule. ps: It is amazing how non-Americans have been made so emotionally invested in American politics.
Holly said
Oct 28 3:02 AM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Vam wrote:
Holly wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
"I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I'm not a Trump supporter, I did say it would be a big mistake if he's run again, and I wouldn't want to see it. I would not like to see Trump back. Do you understand that?"
It seems pretty clear that Holly is NOT a supporter of Trump, so anonymously insisting she is on this forum, makes you look a bit stupid tbh.
Yes she always says that but her apologetic posts towards the Trumpion type of politics suggest otherwise and many others have pulled her up over this fact over there.
At most, she can be guilty of whataboutism. When someone points out something Trump did, she will agree, then point out something someone else did.
Everyone does it to some degree, because it's a means of showing one person isn't much better or worse than another, especially in the political arena..
Exactly, I will point out hypocrisy. A good example is when people started to claim that the 2020 election was stolen, the least that happened to them was that they were thrown off SM, others even get arrested for saying it. But when Hillary said the 2016 election was rigged, and just yesterday she predicted that the 2024 election will get stolen, that's perfectly OK. Nobody bads an eyelid. Never mind about all the lies she told. It's that hypocrisy that gets to me, it really does, and I will speak up as long as I'm allowed to.
Hillary Clinton picked up a phone and conceded the morning after the 2016 Election Day.
As for 2020, you may have missed the 60 frivolous court challenges that were chucked out mostly by Trump-appointed judges. And how about all the Trump appointees and White House aides who have sworn UNDER OATH that he knew he had lost but he didn’t give a fuck about that inconvenient minor detail, and continued to play the victim to grift off his base and keep them riled up.
It’s your choice to carry on being oblivious to quite how much Trump and fascist MAGA’s big lie has embedded itself in the American psyche. It has seriously eroded Americans’ confidence in future elections and continues to metastasise and cause violent division - to the point where the words ‘civil war’ are being bandied about. Let’s not even get into the massive threat to national security his thievery of some of the USA’s most highly sensitive documents could have created, by the way.
Its your prerogative to continue to “speak up”, of course. But where you slip up over on Dogs is calling anyone who challenges your views “fucking morons/idiots“ among other ad homs (before deleting those posts )
So I’m gonna take a leaf out of your book today and say, in reality, the blinkered halfwit spouting shite up there is you.
To be clear, Biden and the Democrats generally don’t impress me much either, but holy crap they sure as hell have gotta be better than the batshit alternative!
High 5 girl !!!!!!
I’m not Holly but I can sure do a good impression !
Seriously Vam?? Don’t think for a minute you can speak to me like that, get it? You are here because I say so, and if I decide you’re gone. I wouldn’t think twice, so don’t try it. Oh and you think the persona known as the persona known as Stooo will take your side? No the persona known as the persona known as Stooo and I aren’t best friends but we do speak in the mod room and ALL our decisions are made together.
There's something seriously wrong with you
Holly said
Oct 28 3:29 AM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You do delete posts and you don't approve guest posts that disagree with you even when they're polite. Enough people know what you do so why deny it? The guest posts the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as Stooo lets through that show you up you just ignore. You saying you don't want Trump back, have you forgotten all your posts asking what he did that was so wrong?
That is so true. I've had plenty of guest post not approved because I've disagreed with something Holly has said. I then re-post them when another mod is on and they're allowed on the board
No, your posts might not get approved if there's abuse involved, usually at the persona known as Stooo or me. Do you really expect me to approve that, especially if I believe you're a banned poster? If the persona known as Stooo wants to approve those posts addressed to him, that's his choice. What you don't seem to understand, is guest posting is not your right, it's at the discretion of Admin/Mods, whether you like it or not. You do have a choice though, you can log in, or sign up, period!
Banned posters usually complain the most when their comments don't get approved, funny that.
Tell me, why do you post as a guest anyway if it upsets you so much that your comments don't get thru?...and don't say you want to stay anonymous, you will still be anonymous with a user name, but at least we will know which anonymous poster you are.
Do you think Maddog is his real name? Do you think I have any private info on him other than he lives in Texas? Go and find a Maddog in Texas, or how about Vam? Go find her in Spain...good luck with that.
Holly said
Oct 28 3:36 AM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Holly wrote:
Vam wrote:
Holly wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
.... XXX is NOT a supporter of Trump ....
... Trumpion type ...
At most ... guilty .... Trump ...
... people started to claim the 2020 election was stolen .... Hillary said the 2016 election was rigged, and just yesterday she predicted that the 2024 election will get stolen ....
.... 60 frivolous court challenges .... Trump-appointed judges .... Trump appointees .... grift .... Trump and fascist MAGA’s ..... continues to metastasise .....massive threat to national security his thievery ... batshit
.... I am not a Trump supporter!
The above is why I remain anonymous, never personalize, and learn when NOT to debate. Dogs is NOT a forum where one can debate politics and in the above engagement it is clear one person is unwilling to debate and is only making assertions and using those assertions to browbeat a fellow commentator. In the past commoners were not allowed to vote because they are easily manipulated by emotive spin and nonsense. Ancient Greeks experimented with many different governance systems and the weaknesses and dangers of democracy was well established. To debate you need two parties willing to debate but if one of the parties has been emotional hijacked by the peddlers of spin then discussion is IMPOSSIBLE. Divide and rule. ps: It is amazing how non-Americans have been made so emotionally invested in American politics.
If you mean CJ by any chance, he gets plenty of opportunities to debate, so that's a bit unfair....and I guess the reason why many non-Americans get invested in American politics, is because what happens in America affects the whole world.
ETA: I am not a Trump supporter
-- Edited by Holly on Friday 28th of October 2022 03:43:08 AM
Anonymous said
Oct 28 8:02 AM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Dogs is NOT a forum where one can debate politics
True. And ironically the ones who claim they only want proper debate seem to be the ones least capable of it.
Anonymous said
Oct 28 8:25 AM, 2022
Holly wrote:
ETA: I am not a Trump supporter
-- Edited by Holly on Friday 28th of October 2022 03:43:08 AM
Your own words suggest otherwise. Maybe 'Trump defender' then.
Anonymous said
Oct 28 12:29 PM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Holly wrote:
Vam wrote:
Holly wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
.... XXX is NOT a supporter of Trump ....
... Trumpion type ...
At most ... guilty .... Trump ...
... people started to claim the 2020 election was stolen .... Hillary said the 2016 election was rigged, and just yesterday she predicted that the 2024 election will get stolen ....
.... 60 frivolous court challenges .... Trump-appointed judges .... Trump appointees .... grift .... Trump and fascist MAGA’s ..... continues to metastasise .....massive threat to national security his thievery ... batshit
.... I am not a Trump supporter!
The above is why I remain anonymous, never personalize, and learn when NOT to debate. Dogs is NOT a forum where one can debate politics and in the above engagement it is clear one person is unwilling to debate and is only making assertions and using those assertions to browbeat a fellow commentator. In the past commoners were not allowed to vote because they are easily manipulated by emotive spin and nonsense. Ancient Greeks experimented with many different governance systems and the weaknesses and dangers of democracy was well established. To debate you need two parties willing to debate but if one of the parties has been emotional hijacked by the peddlers of spin then discussion is IMPOSSIBLE. Divide and rule. ps: It is amazing how non-Americans have been made so emotionally invested in American politics.
There's the proof of how fucking thick these guests that are chasing Holly actually are. Every nation is affected by America and American politics. Most nations are taking a fucking big gamble if they defy the emperor!
Anonymous said
Oct 28 2:22 PM, 2022
Most people can't see that the presentation of politics and the reporting of politics has become completely hysterical. In consequence they themselves become hysterical when thinking and "discussing" politics. For example the presentation and the reporting of Trump has been completely hysterical. More and more people are seeing political choices as a moral - right or wrong choice. If you vote the right way or if you have the correct thoughts then that makes you a good, moral person. People that vote the "wrong" way or have the "wrong" socio-political thoughts are considered immoral, evil, inherently problematic. Look at how people are attacked for "defending" Trump - or saying maybe he would have been a better choice than Biden. This is not a democracy - it is a tyranny of the emotionally hijacked weak minded. Interestingly people that are reasonable in one area of socio-political thinking may be completely hysterical in another area of socio-political "thinking". It is not just the media and the political system that has gone this way. It is in our education system as well - where nowadays we have schoolchildren going on marches for "change".
Anonymous said
Oct 28 2:57 PM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You do delete posts and you don't approve guest posts that disagree with you even when they're polite. Enough people know what you do so why deny it? The guest posts the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as Stooo lets through that show you up you just ignore. You saying you don't want Trump back, have you forgotten all your posts asking what he did that was so wrong?
That is so true. I've had plenty of guest post not approved because I've disagreed with something Holly has said. I then re-post them when another mod is on and they're allowed on the board
You spend all day glued to a two bit forum waiting to have posts approved?? Why don't you just sign up?? Are you too cowardly or banned??
Lol no I don't spend all day waiting for another mod, maybe that's something that you do? When I next look in if my post hasn't been posted, I'll re-post it and usually a different mod will allow it. There's nothing cowardly about guest posting you moron.
Anonymous said
Oct 29 8:33 AM, 2022
the persona known as Stooo who is pushing 60 is calling pensioners old fogies not very political correct from the woke poster boy and the idiot cactus Jack is buying Prince Harry's book as xmas presents even though it isn't released till next year.
Holly said
Oct 29 10:24 AM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You do delete posts and you don't approve guest posts that disagree with you even when they're polite. Enough people know what you do so why deny it? The guest posts the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as Stooo lets through that show you up you just ignore. You saying you don't want Trump back, have you forgotten all your posts asking what he did that was so wrong?
That is so true. I've had plenty of guest post not approved because I've disagreed with something Holly has said. I then re-post them when another mod is on and they're allowed on the board
You spend all day glued to a two bit forum waiting to have posts approved?? Why don't you just sign up?? Are you too cowardly or banned??
Lol no I don't spend all day waiting for another mod, maybe that's something that you do? When I next look in if my post hasn't been posted, I'll re-post it and usually a different mod will allow it. There's nothing cowardly about guest posting you moron.
That happens on very rare occasions, so don't exaggerated. If I don't approve of your posts, other Admin most of the time don't either, but you might slip thru sometimes. Lucky you
Anonymous said
Oct 29 11:00 AM, 2022
There are some people over there that I think would do well over here in terms of discussing things without getting emotional. The Major seemed like a gentle spirit and I never had any issues with him. He talked about his rural living. However he always seemed to be getting warnings for something or other. Another one is Red Okttober - who seems to have maybe given up with that place.
Anonymous said
Oct 29 1:58 PM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Most people can't see that the presentation of politics and the reporting of politics has become completely hysterical. In consequence they themselves become hysterical when thinking and "discussing" politics. For example the presentation and the reporting of Trump has been completely hysterical. More and more people are seeing political choices as a moral - right or wrong choice. If you vote the right way or if you have the correct thoughts then that makes you a good, moral person. People that vote the "wrong" way or have the "wrong" socio-political thoughts are considered immoral, evil, inherently problematic. Look at how people are attacked for "defending" Trump - or saying maybe he would have been a better choice than Biden. This is not a democracy - it is a tyranny of the emotionally hijacked weak minded. Interestingly people that are reasonable in one area of socio-political thinking may be completely hysterical in another area of socio-political "thinking". It is not just the media and the political system that has gone this way. It is in our education system as well - where nowadays we have schoolchildren going on marches for "change".
BIB above - therein lies the problem. Disagreement with an opinion is seen as a personal attack and then things get nasty. People don't know how to discuss opposing views without their own ego getting in the way.
Maddog said
Oct 29 4:44 PM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Most people can't see that the presentation of politics and the reporting of politics has become completely hysterical. In consequence they themselves become hysterical when thinking and "discussing" politics. For example the presentation and the reporting of Trump has been completely hysterical. More and more people are seeing political choices as a moral - right or wrong choice. If you vote the right way or if you have the correct thoughts then that makes you a good, moral person. People that vote the "wrong" way or have the "wrong" socio-political thoughts are considered immoral, evil, inherently problematic. Look at how people are attacked for "defending" Trump - or saying maybe he would have been a better choice than Biden. This is not a democracy - it is a tyranny of the emotionally hijacked weak minded. Interestingly people that are reasonable in one area of socio-political thinking may be completely hysterical in another area of socio-political "thinking". It is not just the media and the political system that has gone this way. It is in our education system as well - where nowadays we have schoolchildren going on marches for "change".
Everything is politicized.
We saw that reach it's zenith during covid and the summer of BLM riots.
You were forced to pick a side or you were placed on a side if you had an independent thought in your brain.
Anonymous said
Oct 29 5:54 PM, 2022
Holly wrote:
Vam wrote:
Holly wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
"I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I'm not a Trump supporter, I did say it would be a big mistake if he's run again, and I wouldn't want to see it. I would not like to see Trump back. Do you understand that?"
It seems pretty clear that Holly is NOT a supporter of Trump, so anonymously insisting she is on this forum, makes you look a bit stupid tbh.
Yes she always says that but her apologetic posts towards the Trumpion type of politics suggest otherwise and many others have pulled her up over this fact over there.
At most, she can be guilty of whataboutism. When someone points out something Trump did, she will agree, then point out something someone else did.
Everyone does it to some degree, because it's a means of showing one person isn't much better or worse than another, especially in the political arena..
Exactly, I will point out hypocrisy. A good example is when people started to claim that the 2020 election was stolen, the least that happened to them was that they were thrown off SM, others even get arrested for saying it. But when Hillary said the 2016 election was rigged, and just yesterday she predicted that the 2024 election will get stolen, that's perfectly OK. Nobody bads an eyelid. Never mind about all the lies she told. It's that hypocrisy that gets to me, it really does, and I will speak up as long as I'm allowed to.
Hillary Clinton picked up a phone and conceded the morning after the 2016 Election Day.
As for 2020, you may have missed the 60 frivolous court challenges that were chucked out mostly by Trump-appointed judges. And how about all the Trump appointees and White House aides who have sworn UNDER OATH that he knew he had lost but he didn’t give a fuck about that inconvenient minor detail, and continued to play the victim to grift off his base and keep them riled up.
It’s your choice to carry on being oblivious to quite how much Trump and fascist MAGA’s big lie has embedded itself in the American psyche. It has seriously eroded Americans’ confidence in future elections and continues to metastasise and cause violent division - to the point where the words ‘civil war’ are being bandied about. Let’s not even get into the massive threat to national security his thievery of some of the USA’s most highly sensitive documents could have created, by the way.
Its your prerogative to continue to “speak up”, of course. But where you slip up over on Dogs is calling anyone who challenges your views “fucking morons/idiots“ among other ad homs (before deleting those posts )
So I’m gonna take a leaf out of your book today and say, in reality, the blinkered halfwit spouting shite up there is you.
To be clear, Biden and the Democrats generally don’t impress me much either, but holy crap they sure as hell have gotta be better than the batshit alternative!
You're such a manipulative, fucking liar. A nasty piece of work you are Vam. I do NOT delete posts, why do you keep repeating that? Is it in the hope that it might stick? You're absolutely unbelievable. Prove to me and anyone else that I delete posts. The only time I might delete a post , is after I submitted it and then immediately change my mind within minutes, just like any other member can and does do. Sometimes I might think, forget it, I don't really want to talk about it. That's perfectly acceptable.
...and who else other that CJ do I call a fucking moron/idiot. How about nobody, unless you can name one. CJ is always abusive towards me, so excuse me if I retaliate. I do not call anyone else names. Again, you're a fucking liar. I'm getting fed up with your unfounded accusations. Why do you feel the need to do that?
...and why bang on about Trump? TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP FFS, get over it already. I said I would NOT want to see him back. How often would you like me to post that before it sinks in?
NO TRUMP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Got it yet? NO TRUMP! It's time for him to retire. Do you understand what I'm saying? NO MORE TRUMP! I am not a Trump supporter!...but I would definitely not ever support Hillary or Biden.
I don't like the present American administration, I think it's bonkers. Biden is bonkers, Kamala is bonkers, Pelosi is bonkers. AOC is bonkers etc...Those are the people at the top of the world's most dominant economic and military super power. They might as well have the Simpsons running the place ( Sorry Maddog )
So to use your own words...I’m also going take a leaf out of your book today and say, in reality, the blinkered halfwit spouting shite up there is YOU. Yes I said it, you're full of shit and a liar. And for what? To discredit me? Because you don't like me? I thought you had more integrity. People can actually read what I'm saying. I don't think I say anything outrages.
Anyway, knock yourself out, come back with more lies.
In fairness I've looked in on dogs and have seen people like s.f asking where a thread you started and were made to look let's say foolish were suddenly gone from the page.
Also banning s.f from dogs because he answered you in those threads.
you use your position on the forum to attack/threaten/ ban those who disagree with you.
By the way, I'm not s.f. Nor any ex member of dogs with an axe to grind. Just someone who has been reading and quest posting there for years.
It's standard procedure on dogs that when admin lose or get proven wrong by guests the posts just simply don't get posted to the thread.
You the persona known as Stooooo, vicky, and hf have all done/do it. Then ban the guest IP address. At least have the balls to admit and not prove that you are a liar.
You're on common ground here holly were you don't have your admin advantage. Sucks eh?
Anonymous said
Oct 29 6:07 PM, 2022
Vam wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Vam wrote:
@ Maddog…
To paraphrase Orwell, politics is always the choice between the lesser of two evils.
What if there are 3 choices?
3 evils?
I guess that's true.
So if you're going to get evil anyway, I suggest not giving that evil a lot of power and money.
We should pick the evil that wants to do the least, but we typically do the opposite..
Amen to that!
Pretty safe to assume most politicians are self-serving scammers. It’s a sweet gig. Once elected, they‘ll do whatever it takes to cling to their status and all the trappings. Look at those octogenarians still uselessly rattling around your Congress, like Grassley & Feinstein. Stubbornly refusing to just fecking retire already!
As for 45 and the base of racist Ultra-MAGA Christo-fascists trailer trash he has been scamming from and keeping riled up for the last 6 years - wearing a Stars & Stripes around their arses, tooling up to cosplay around ballot boxes (in Jeezuss name!) doesn’t make them ’patriots’. It makes them a friggin menace to society in general. Dunno about you, but I’d call that a very significantly ‘evil’ legacy.
I don’t post here often enough to want to be fighting with that daft bint up there, but her whataboutery comparison shite makes my jaw drop sometimes.
You living in America now then vam?
This maga fascist racist shit is left wing propaganda from the left leaning press.
Look at biden trying his best to tie the attack on paul pelosi to trump. and the republican party.
Yet the dems were telling people to harass any Republican politician that they saw out leading a normal life eating or shopping.
Nothing said about the guy threatening a SCJ. Or showing up at his house.
The dems are already stating that if the reps win in November then the elections were rigged and the same for '24.
Crying that democracy will be lost. If they don't win. They only want one party rule and that there is Fascism.
stick to walking your dogs and walking your bottles of cheap plonk.
Anonymous said
Oct 29 6:13 PM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You do delete posts and you don't approve guest posts that disagree with you even when they're polite. Enough people know what you do so why deny it? The guest posts the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as Stooo lets through that show you up you just ignore. You saying you don't want Trump back, have you forgotten all your posts asking what he did that was so wrong?
That is so true. I've had plenty of guest post not approved because I've disagreed with something Holly has said. I then re-post them when another mod is on and they're allowed on the board
You spend all day glued to a two bit forum waiting to have posts approved?? Why don't you just sign up?? Are you too cowardly or banned??
Why do you assume they are glued to the forum all day?
Is that something you yourself do?
Most people know that holly mods late at night when no one else is awake to post or early morning.
So posting after 1pm you can be fairly sure it's either stoo..o or hf modding. No need to sit there all day unless you want to of course.
Do you think it brave to join dogs then???
You'd be better asking why so many have left dogs not why people won't join
Anonymous said
Oct 29 10:32 PM, 2022
Holly wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You do delete posts and you don't approve guest posts that disagree with you even when they're polite. Enough people know what you do so why deny it? The guest posts the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as the persona known as Stooo lets through that show you up you just ignore. You saying you don't want Trump back, have you forgotten all your posts asking what he did that was so wrong?
That is so true. I've had plenty of guest post not approved because I've disagreed with something Holly has said. I then re-post them when another mod is on and they're allowed on the board
You spend all day glued to a two bit forum waiting to have posts approved?? Why don't you just sign up?? Are you too cowardly or banned??
Lol no I don't spend all day waiting for another mod, maybe that's something that you do? When I next look in if my post hasn't been posted, I'll re-post it and usually a different mod will allow it. There's nothing cowardly about guest posting you moron.
That happens on very rare occasions, so don't exaggerated. If I don't approve of your posts, other Admin most of the time don't either, but you might slip thru sometimes. Lucky you
Wow you must think you're so very special. I post very reasonable post when I do post. They might disagree with you, so what. The difference is. I also disagree with other mods but hey guess what. They do allow my post. I think the difference here is you. But never mind, maybe you're very lucky to be a mod on the forum. hey ho
Anonymous said
Oct 29 11:50 PM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Wow you must think you're so very special. I post very reasonable post when I do post. They might disagree with you, so what. The difference is. I also disagree with other mods but hey guess what. They do allow my post. I think the difference here is you. But never mind, maybe you're very lucky to be a mod on the forum. hey ho
For what it is worth, I think you are special. In fact I think everyone posting here are special except for those that may not be. In life we meet lots of people and we don't all get on, but we don't need to make a big issue out of it. Life moves on, people live, people die, people are born. There are mountains, there are molehills, there are storms and there are teacups.
Anonymous said
Oct 30 9:31 AM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Holly wrote:
Vam wrote:
Holly wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
"I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I'm not a Trump supporter, I did say it would be a big mistake if he's run again, and I wouldn't want to see it. I would not like to see Trump back. Do you understand that?"
It seems pretty clear that Holly is NOT a supporter of Trump, so anonymously insisting she is on this forum, makes you look a bit stupid tbh.
Yes she always says that but her apologetic posts towards the Trumpion type of politics suggest otherwise and many others have pulled her up over this fact over there.
At most, she can be guilty of whataboutism. When someone points out something Trump did, she will agree, then point out something someone else did.
Everyone does it to some degree, because it's a means of showing one person isn't much better or worse than another, especially in the political arena..
Exactly, I will point out hypocrisy. A good example is when people started to claim that the 2020 election was stolen, the least that happened to them was that they were thrown off SM, others even get arrested for saying it. But when Hillary said the 2016 election was rigged, and just yesterday she predicted that the 2024 election will get stolen, that's perfectly OK. Nobody bads an eyelid. Never mind about all the lies she told. It's that hypocrisy that gets to me, it really does, and I will speak up as long as I'm allowed to.
Hillary Clinton picked up a phone and conceded the morning after the 2016 Election Day.
As for 2020, you may have missed the 60 frivolous court challenges that were chucked out mostly by Trump-appointed judges. And how about all the Trump appointees and White House aides who have sworn UNDER OATH that he knew he had lost but he didn’t give a fuck about that inconvenient minor detail, and continued to play the victim to grift off his base and keep them riled up.
It’s your choice to carry on being oblivious to quite how much Trump and fascist MAGA’s big lie has embedded itself in the American psyche. It has seriously eroded Americans’ confidence in future elections and continues to metastasise and cause violent division - to the point where the words ‘civil war’ are being bandied about. Let’s not even get into the massive threat to national security his thievery of some of the USA’s most highly sensitive documents could have created, by the way.
Its your prerogative to continue to “speak up”, of course. But where you slip up over on Dogs is calling anyone who challenges your views “fucking morons/idiots“ among other ad homs (before deleting those posts )
So I’m gonna take a leaf out of your book today and say, in reality, the blinkered halfwit spouting shite up there is you.
To be clear, Biden and the Democrats generally don’t impress me much either, but holy crap they sure as hell have gotta be better than the batshit alternative!
You're such a manipulative, fucking liar. A nasty piece of work you are Vam. I do NOT delete posts, why do you keep repeating that? Is it in the hope that it might stick? You're absolutely unbelievable. Prove to me and anyone else that I delete posts. The only time I might delete a post , is after I submitted it and then immediately change my mind within minutes, just like any other member can and does do. Sometimes I might think, forget it, I don't really want to talk about it. That's perfectly acceptable.
...and who else other that CJ do I call a fucking moron/idiot. How about nobody, unless you can name one. CJ is always abusive towards me, so excuse me if I retaliate. I do not call anyone else names. Again, you're a fucking liar. I'm getting fed up with your unfounded accusations. Why do you feel the need to do that?
...and why bang on about Trump? TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP FFS, get over it already. I said I would NOT want to see him back. How often would you like me to post that before it sinks in?
NO TRUMP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Got it yet? NO TRUMP! It's time for him to retire. Do you understand what I'm saying? NO MORE TRUMP! I am not a Trump supporter!...but I would definitely not ever support Hillary or Biden.
I don't like the present American administration, I think it's bonkers. Biden is bonkers, Kamala is bonkers, Pelosi is bonkers. AOC is bonkers etc...Those are the people at the top of the world's most dominant economic and military super power. They might as well have the Simpsons running the place ( Sorry Maddog )
So to use your own words...I’m also going take a leaf out of your book today and say, in reality, the blinkered halfwit spouting shite up there is YOU. Yes I said it, you're full of shit and a liar. And for what? To discredit me? Because you don't like me? I thought you had more integrity. People can actually read what I'm saying. I don't think I say anything outrages.
Anyway, knock yourself out, come back with more lies.
In fairness I've looked in on dogs and have seen people like s.f asking where a thread you started and were made to look let's say foolish were suddenly gone from the page.
Also banning s.f from dogs because he answered you in those threads.
you use your position on the forum to attack/threaten/ ban those who disagree with you.
By the way, I'm not s.f. Nor any ex member of dogs with an axe to grind. Just someone who has been reading and quest posting there for years.
It's standard procedure on dogs that when admin lose or get proven wrong by guests the posts just simply don't get posted to the thread.
You the persona known as the persona known as Stooooo, vicky, and hf have all done/do it. Then ban the guest IP address. At least have the balls to admit and not prove that you are a liar.
You're on common ground here holly were you don't have your admin advantage. Sucks eh?
She regularly calls for freedom of speech and yet at the same time tries to suppress it if it suits her. Who can take someone like that at face value?
The above is why I remain anonymous, never personalize, and learn when NOT to debate. Dogs is NOT a forum where one can debate politics and in the above engagement it is clear one person is unwilling to debate and is only making assertions and using those assertions to browbeat a fellow commentator. In the past commoners were not allowed to vote because they are easily manipulated by emotive spin and nonsense. Ancient Greeks experimented with many different governance systems and the weaknesses and dangers of democracy was well established. To debate you need two parties willing to debate but if one of the parties has been emotional hijacked by the peddlers of spin then discussion is IMPOSSIBLE. Divide and rule. ps: It is amazing how non-Americans have been made so emotionally invested in American politics.
There's something seriously wrong with you
No, your posts might not get approved if there's abuse involved, usually at the persona known as Stooo or me. Do you really expect me to approve that, especially if I believe you're a banned poster? If the persona known as Stooo wants to approve those posts addressed to him, that's his choice. What you don't seem to understand, is guest posting is not your right, it's at the discretion of Admin/Mods, whether you like it or not. You do have a choice though, you can log in, or sign up, period!
Banned posters usually complain the most when their comments don't get approved, funny that.
Tell me, why do you post as a guest anyway if it upsets you so much that your comments don't get thru?...and don't say you want to stay anonymous, you will still be anonymous with a user name, but at least we will know which anonymous poster you are.
Do you think Maddog is his real name? Do you think I have any private info on him other than he lives in Texas? Go and find a Maddog in Texas, or how about Vam? Go find her in Spain...good luck with that.
If you mean CJ by any chance, he gets plenty of opportunities to debate, so that's a bit unfair....and I guess the reason why many non-Americans get invested in American politics, is because what happens in America affects the whole world.
ETA: I am not a Trump supporter
-- Edited by Holly on Friday 28th of October 2022 03:43:08 AM
True. And ironically the ones who claim they only want proper debate seem to be the ones least capable of it.
Your own words suggest otherwise. Maybe 'Trump defender' then.
There's the proof of how fucking thick these guests that are chasing Holly actually are. Every nation is affected by America and American politics. Most nations are taking a fucking big gamble if they defy the emperor!
Most people can't see that the presentation of politics and the reporting of politics has become completely hysterical. In consequence they themselves become hysterical when thinking and "discussing" politics. For example the presentation and the reporting of Trump has been completely hysterical. More and more people are seeing political choices as a moral - right or wrong choice. If you vote the right way or if you have the correct thoughts then that makes you a good, moral person. People that vote the "wrong" way or have the "wrong" socio-political thoughts are considered immoral, evil, inherently problematic. Look at how people are attacked for "defending" Trump - or saying maybe he would have been a better choice than Biden. This is not a democracy - it is a tyranny of the emotionally hijacked weak minded. Interestingly people that are reasonable in one area of socio-political thinking may be completely hysterical in another area of socio-political "thinking". It is not just the media and the political system that has gone this way. It is in our education system as well - where nowadays we have schoolchildren going on marches for "change".
Lol no I don't spend all day waiting for another mod, maybe that's something that you do? When I next look in if my post hasn't been posted, I'll re-post it and usually a different mod will allow it. There's nothing cowardly about guest posting you moron.
the persona known as Stooo who is pushing 60 is calling pensioners old fogies not very political correct from the woke poster boy and the idiot cactus Jack is buying Prince Harry's book as xmas presents even though it isn't released till next year.
That happens on very rare occasions, so don't exaggerated. If I don't approve of your posts, other Admin most of the time don't either, but you might slip thru sometimes. Lucky you
There are some people over there that I think would do well over here in terms of discussing things without getting emotional. The Major seemed like a gentle spirit and I never had any issues with him. He talked about his rural living. However he always seemed to be getting warnings for something or other. Another one is Red Okttober - who seems to have maybe given up with that place.
BIB above - therein lies the problem. Disagreement with an opinion is seen as a personal attack and then things get nasty. People don't know how to discuss opposing views without their own ego getting in the way.
Everything is politicized.
We saw that reach it's zenith during covid and the summer of BLM riots.
You were forced to pick a side or you were placed on a side if you had an independent thought in your brain.
In fairness I've looked in on dogs and have seen people like s.f asking where a thread you started and were made to look let's say foolish were suddenly gone from the page.
Also banning s.f from dogs because he answered you in those threads.
you use your position on the forum to attack/threaten/ ban those who disagree with you.
By the way, I'm not s.f. Nor any ex member of dogs with an axe to grind. Just someone who has been reading and quest posting there for years.
It's standard procedure on dogs that when admin lose or get proven wrong by guests the posts just simply don't get posted to the thread.
You the persona known as Stooooo, vicky, and hf have all done/do it. Then ban the guest IP address. At least have the balls to admit and not prove that you are a liar.
You're on common ground here holly were you don't have your admin advantage. Sucks eh?
You living in America now then vam?
This maga fascist racist shit is left wing propaganda from the left leaning press.
Look at biden trying his best to tie the attack on paul pelosi to trump. and the republican party.
Yet the dems were telling people to harass any Republican politician that they saw out leading a normal life eating or shopping.
Nothing said about the guy threatening a SCJ. Or showing up at his house.
The dems are already stating that if the reps win in November then the elections were rigged and the same for '24.
Crying that democracy will be lost. If they don't win. They only want one party rule and that there is Fascism.
stick to walking your dogs and walking your bottles of cheap plonk.
Why do you assume they are glued to the forum all day?
Is that something you yourself do?
Most people know that holly mods late at night when no one else is awake to post or early morning.
So posting after 1pm you can be fairly sure it's either stoo..o or hf modding. No need to sit there all day unless you want to of course.
Do you think it brave to join dogs then???
You'd be better asking why so many have left dogs not why people won't join
Wow you must think you're so very special. I post very reasonable post when I do post. They might disagree with you, so what. The difference is. I also disagree with other mods but hey guess what. They do allow my post. I think the difference here is you. But never mind, maybe you're very lucky to be a mod on the forum. hey ho
For what it is worth, I think you are special. In fact I think everyone posting here are special except for those that may not be. In life we meet lots of people and we don't all get on, but we don't need to make a big issue out of it. Life moves on, people live, people die, people are born. There are mountains, there are molehills, there are storms and there are teacups.
She regularly calls for freedom of speech and yet at the same time tries to suppress it if it suits her. Who can take someone like that at face value?