"Thankfully, there are ways to lift without putting your knees at risk. Below, you’ll discover some simple knee injury prevention tips for lifters, along with advice for managing any knee pain you do develop."
-- Edited by Maddog on Monday 25th of August 2025 04:49:45 PM
Maybe some "pros" are just the result of an overactive imagination? 😉
or have to have the last word.
Maddog said
Aug 27 2:58 PM, 2025
First, last or middle words. Pointing out people making up shit is something I enjoy..😉
Maddog said
Aug 27 3:21 PM, 2025
She's pointing out something that is by far my weakest link. I'm not flexible at all, which makes my strength much less functional. Life rarely requires you to bench press 300 lbs, but it does require you to get in a deep squat or work on the ground comfortably. Strong joints are the foundation for everything..
Syl said
Aug 28 7:33 PM, 2025
/\ What a very irritating woman.
She shows a vid of a couple in their 80's and refers to them as 'people in their 40's' and seems to think most people can't sit crossed legged on the floor, who does she mix with?
Maddog said
Aug 28 9:17 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
/\ What a very irritating woman.
She shows a vid of a couple in their 80's and refers to them as 'people in their 40's' and seems to think most people can't sit crossed legged on the floor, who does she mix with?
A lot of people, especially men can't sit cross-legged as they get older..
I definitely can't do most of the stuff she does..Especially a deep, relaxed squat. I can get down there, but it's not a comfortable position for me. I wouldn't read a book in that position..
Most westerners have very tight hips from decades off sitting. It's why we can't squat like an 80 your old woman in Cambodia.
Syl said
Aug 28 11:02 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
/\ What a very irritating woman.
She shows a vid of a couple in their 80's and refers to them as 'people in their 40's' and seems to think most people can't sit crossed legged on the floor, who does she mix with?
A lot of people, especially men can't sit cross-legged as they get older..
I definitely can't do most of the stuff she does..Especially a deep, relaxed squat. I can get down there, but it's not a comfortable position for me. I wouldn't read a book in that position..
Most westerners have very tight hips from decades off sitting. It's why we can't squat like an 80 your old woman in Cambodia.
Well I have had two knee replacements and a hip replacement.
I can sit crossed legged on the floor, touch my toes, and don't feel half as stiff or inflexible as she seems to think people who don't do extreme excercise must feel..
Most 80 year old Cambodean women are dead long before they reach 80.
Maddog said
Aug 29 12:26 AM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
/\ What a very irritating woman.
She shows a vid of a couple in their 80's and refers to them as 'people in their 40's' and seems to think most people can't sit crossed legged on the floor, who does she mix with?
A lot of people, especially men can't sit cross-legged as they get older..
I definitely can't do most of the stuff she does..Especially a deep, relaxed squat. I can get down there, but it's not a comfortable position for me. I wouldn't read a book in that position..
Most westerners have very tight hips from decades off sitting. It's why we can't squat like an 80 your old woman in Cambodia.
Well I have had two knee replacements and a hip replacement.
I can sit crossed legged on the floor, touch my toes, and don't feel half as stiff or inflexible as she seems to think people who don't do extreme excercise must feel..
Most 80 year old Cambodean women are dead long before they reach 80.
You might be an exception. Maybe all of those new parts are better than having old parts? 🤷
I don't know what extreme exercises your talking about. It's all similar body weight movements to pilates and yoga. I don't think those are extreme.
And there are plenty of 80 year olds all over SE Asia..
Pick Thailand instead..
Syl said
Aug 29 12:43 AM, 2025
My old parts were flexible, just painful.
Maddog said
Aug 29 1:44 AM, 2025
Syl wrote:
My old parts were flexible, just painful.
Well, she wasn't really talking about you as much as she was me anyway.
Syl said
Aug 29 11:15 AM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
My old parts were flexible, just painful.
Well, she wasn't really talking about you as much as she was me anyway.
I thought she was talking to everyone who wishes to stay mobile after 40, because according to her, unless we contort our bodies into ridiculous positions, we won’t .
Maddog said
Aug 29 4:11 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
My old parts were flexible, just painful.
Well, she wasn't really talking about you as much as she was me anyway.
I thought she was talking to everyone who wishes to stay mobile after 40, because according to her, unless we contort our bodies into ridiculous positions, we won’t .
She was talking about people who can look very impressive because of spending time in the gym, but are not functionally strong or mobile.
And none of positions that she demonstrated are ridiculous, but are positions our body is designed to do. We lose that ability, but it's because we don't train for those movements, especially in modern, western society..
So in a sense, I guess she was talking to you. But like the other dozen or so experts I have cited on this thread, I doubt you're interested in their knowledge.
I'm going to be very honest. This thread has really shocked me because I don't know that many people in real life that are so opposed to this sort of information.
Sure I know plenty of out of shape people that don't go to the gym, but I really don't know any (the few I did are all dead) that would consider these things bad ideas..They might lack motivation or disagree on some aspects of strength training, but they acknowledge its importance..
I feel like I walked into a kindergarten and told a room full of 5 year olds that they should eat their vegetables because they will make them strong and healthy, and I'm getting silly pushback about how cake and ice cream is just as healthy..🤷
Syl said
Aug 29 5:44 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
My old parts were flexible, just painful.
Well, she wasn't really talking about you as much as she was me anyway.
I thought she was talking to everyone who wishes to stay mobile after 40, because according to her, unless we contort our bodies into ridiculous positions, we won’t .
She was talking about people who can look very impressive because of spending time in the gym, but are not functionally strong or mobile.
And none of positions that she demonstrated are ridiculous, but are positions our body is designed to do. We lose that ability, but it's because we don't train for those movements, especially in modern, western society..
So in a sense, I guess she was talking to you. But like the other dozen or so experts I have cited on this thread, I doubt you're interested in their knowledge.
I'm going to be very honest. This thread has really shocked me because I don't know that many people in real life that are so opposed to this sort of information.
Sure I know plenty of out of shape people that don't go to the gym, but I really don't know any (the few I did are all dead) that would consider these things bad ideas..They might lack motivation or disagree on some aspects of strength training, but they acknowledge its importance..
I feel like I walked into a kindergarten and told a room full of 5 year olds that they should eat their vegetables because they will make them strong and healthy, and I'm getting silly pushback about how cake and ice cream is just as healthy..🤷
I'm shocked that you are shocked that some people have their own way of keeping fit and don't feel the need to perform extreme exercises or lift heavy weights.
I am not saying others won't read, and if they want to, follow the advice you have been promoting in this thread.
It's had 10 times more views than replies, so obviously people are interested enough to read it.
Anonymous said
Aug 29 6:37 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
I am not saying others won't read, and if they want to, follow the advice you have been promoting in this thread.
It's had 10 times more views than replies, so obviously people are interested enough to read it.
I think they just drop in for a giggle.
Maddog said
Aug 29 7:07 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
My old parts were flexible, just painful.
Well, she wasn't really talking about you as much as she was me anyway.
I thought she was talking to everyone who wishes to stay mobile after 40, because according to her, unless we contort our bodies into ridiculous positions, we won’t .
She was talking about people who can look very impressive because of spending time in the gym, but are not functionally strong or mobile.
And none of positions that she demonstrated are ridiculous, but are positions our body is designed to do. We lose that ability, but it's because we don't train for those movements, especially in modern, western society..
So in a sense, I guess she was talking to you. But like the other dozen or so experts I have cited on this thread, I doubt you're interested in their knowledge.
I'm going to be very honest. This thread has really shocked me because I don't know that many people in real life that are so opposed to this sort of information.
Sure I know plenty of out of shape people that don't go to the gym, but I really don't know any (the few I did are all dead) that would consider these things bad ideas..They might lack motivation or disagree on some aspects of strength training, but they acknowledge its importance..
I feel like I walked into a kindergarten and told a room full of 5 year olds that they should eat their vegetables because they will make them strong and healthy, and I'm getting silly pushback about how cake and ice cream is just as healthy..🤷
I'm shocked that you are shocked that some people have their own way of keeping fit and don't feel the need to perform extreme exercises or lift heavy weights.
I am not saying others won't read, and if they want to, follow the advice you have been promoting in this thread.
It's had 10 times more views than replies, so obviously people are interested enough to read it.
There is absolutely nothing extreme about anything I've posted.
Its very basic health advice.
I'm again shocked (again) that you would call any of this extreme.
Syl said
Aug 29 7:12 PM, 2025
Why are you suddenly shocked by what little old me posts? Has a sensitive girly invaded your usually macho forum self??
Maddog said
Aug 29 7:47 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Why are you suddenly shocked by what little old me posts? Has a sensitive girly invaded your usually macho forum self??
I'm a tender flower. 😘
It's not just you. Outside of Barksdale, there have been a multitude of head scratchers posted on here..
I guess intelligent people being so hostile to data shocks me a little.
Anonymous said
Aug 30 8:49 AM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
I'm going to be very honest. This thread has really shocked me because I don't know that many people in real life that are so opposed to this sort of information.
That's hardly surprising. Obsessive over-enthusiasm is a part of the American psyche that isn't shared with British counterparts. As is the desire to be bigger, better, stronger, to impress and to win at all costs, which by the way is often a symptom of an underlying insecurity.
The more you keep banging on about it the more people are going to switch off. You've been doing it for a year, you've lost your audience now.
Maddog said
Aug 30 5:12 PM, 2025
I wonder where Stephen Bartlett is from?
He's in the Manchester hall of fame whatever that is..
Hearing him talk about his father is just sad, especially when it's preventable.
-- Edited by Maddog on Saturday 30th of August 2025 05:25:30 PM
Maddog said
Aug 30 5:36 PM, 2025
Chris, along with Stephen, has some of the highest rated podcasts out there. I can't quite place that accent..😉
French maybe
Anyway, maybe these two very popular Brits are not very popular in their own country? 🤷
Syl has mentioned extreme training. Huberman and Williamson are taking about David Goggins.
THAT man defines extreme training, unlike any of the garden variety training I have posted on here..
-- Edited by Maddog on Saturday 30th of August 2025 06:36:18 PM
Syl said
Aug 30 11:50 PM, 2025
Steven Bartlett started his online business in Manchester, he has a popular podcast, and is a resident dragon on TV's Dragons Den....apparently he made his first million when he was still a teenager.
or have to have the last word.
She's pointing out something that is by far my weakest link. I'm not flexible at all, which makes my strength much less functional. Life rarely requires you to bench press 300 lbs, but it does require you to get in a deep squat or work on the ground comfortably. Strong joints are the foundation for everything..
She shows a vid of a couple in their 80's and refers to them as 'people in their 40's' and seems to think most people can't sit crossed legged on the floor, who does she mix with?
A lot of people, especially men can't sit cross-legged as they get older..
I definitely can't do most of the stuff she does..Especially a deep, relaxed squat. I can get down there, but it's not a comfortable position for me. I wouldn't read a book in that position..
Most westerners have very tight hips from decades off sitting. It's why we can't squat like an 80 your old woman in Cambodia.
Well I have had two knee replacements and a hip replacement.
I can sit crossed legged on the floor, touch my toes, and don't feel half as stiff or inflexible as she seems to think people who don't do extreme excercise must feel..
Most 80 year old Cambodean women are dead long before they reach 80.
You might be an exception. Maybe all of those new parts are better than having old parts? 🤷
I don't know what extreme exercises your talking about. It's all similar body weight movements to pilates and yoga. I don't think those are extreme.
And there are plenty of 80 year olds all over SE Asia..
Pick Thailand instead..
Well, she wasn't really talking about you as much as she was me anyway.
I thought she was talking to everyone who wishes to stay mobile after 40, because according to her, unless we contort our bodies into ridiculous positions, we won’t .
She was talking about people who can look very impressive because of spending time in the gym, but are not functionally strong or mobile.
And none of positions that she demonstrated are ridiculous, but are positions our body is designed to do. We lose that ability, but it's because we don't train for those movements, especially in modern, western society..
So in a sense, I guess she was talking to you. But like the other dozen or so experts I have cited on this thread, I doubt you're interested in their knowledge.
I'm going to be very honest. This thread has really shocked me because I don't know that many people in real life that are so opposed to this sort of information.
Sure I know plenty of out of shape people that don't go to the gym, but I really don't know any (the few I did are all dead) that would consider these things bad ideas..They might lack motivation or disagree on some aspects of strength training, but they acknowledge its importance..
I feel like I walked into a kindergarten and told a room full of 5 year olds that they should eat their vegetables because they will make them strong and healthy, and I'm getting silly pushback about how cake and ice cream is just as healthy..🤷
I'm shocked that you are shocked that some people have their own way of keeping fit and don't feel the need to perform extreme exercises or lift heavy weights.
I am not saying others won't read, and if they want to, follow the advice you have been promoting in this thread.
It's had 10 times more views than replies, so obviously people are interested enough to read it.
I think they just drop in for a giggle.
There is absolutely nothing extreme about anything I've posted.
Its very basic health advice.
I'm again shocked (again) that you would call any of this extreme.
Why are you suddenly shocked by what little old me posts? Has a sensitive girly invaded your usually macho forum self??
I'm a tender flower. 😘
It's not just you. Outside of Barksdale, there have been a multitude of head scratchers posted on here..
I guess intelligent people being so hostile to data shocks me a little.
That's hardly surprising. Obsessive over-enthusiasm is a part of the American psyche that isn't shared with British counterparts. As is the desire to be bigger, better, stronger, to impress and to win at all costs, which by the way is often a symptom of an underlying insecurity.
The more you keep banging on about it the more people are going to switch off. You've been doing it for a year, you've lost your audience now.
I wonder where Stephen Bartlett is from?
He's in the Manchester hall of fame whatever that is..
Hearing him talk about his father is just sad, especially when it's preventable.
-- Edited by Maddog on Saturday 30th of August 2025 05:25:30 PM
Chris, along with Stephen, has some of the highest rated podcasts out there. I can't quite place that accent..😉
French maybe
Anyway, maybe these two very popular Brits are not very popular in their own country? 🤷
Syl has mentioned extreme training. Huberman and Williamson are taking about David Goggins.
THAT man defines extreme training, unlike any of the garden variety training I have posted on here..
-- Edited by Maddog on Saturday 30th of August 2025 06:36:18 PM