Following up on my observations of the England women's football team, where they were all flat chested but nearly all had great arses, I watched some women's rugby earlier and couldn't find anything attractive at all about their body shapes. They were either all fat or muscular and had faces like bank robbers.
One had her shorts pulled half way down, revealing a massive arse, that you could probably strike a match on.
However, this lass appeared on the cover of my Sunday magazine last week.
Maddog - how do you rate her in comparison to that US player you posted a pic of?
Steven Bartlett started his online business in Manchester, he has a popular podcast, and is a resident dragon on TV's Dragons Den....apparently he made his first million when he was still a teenager.
I watch a lot of clips of his podcast, but I never really knew who he was..
I know Chris Williamson was on Big Brother but I never watched that..
Both are very intelligent men who have interesting guests..
Maddog said
Aug 31 5:08 PM, 2025
Red Okktober wrote:
Following up on my observations of the England women's football team, where they were all flat chested but nearly all had great arses, I watched some women's rugby earlier and couldn't find anything attractive at all about their body shapes. They were either all fat or muscular and had faces like bank robbers.
One had her shorts pulled half way down, revealing a massive arse, that you could probably strike a match on.
However, this lass appeared on the cover of my Sunday magazine last week.
Maddog - how do you rate her in comparison to that US player you posted a pic of?
She's obviously attractive. But my comments on this thread have been more geared towards performance.
Most athletes that can perform at a high level usually have attractive bodies, with some notable exceptions.
Also, women "transform" their looks. If you take a woman's soccer team that is in their uniforms with sports bras that are smashing their boobs flat, little or no makeup and hair pulled back in a pony tall then compare them to.the same team out on the town, all dressed up with makeup and their hair done, they appear very different..
Maddog said
Aug 31 5:58 PM, 2025
Here is Holly on the pitch. While I'm not trying to make this about looks, she appears very different, like many female athletes.
-- Edited by Maddog on Sunday 31st of August 2025 05:58:57 PM
She's obviously attractive. But my comments on this thread have been more geared towards performance.
Most athletes that can perform at a high level usually have attractive bodies, with some notable exceptions.
Also, women "transform" their looks. If you take a woman's soccer team that is in their uniforms with sports bras that are smashing their boobs flat, little or no makeup and hair pulled back in a pony tall then compare them to.the same team out on the town, all dressed up with makeup and their hair done, they appear very different..
Holly is obviously very strong and athletic, but also looks feminine, with great legs. That might be more down to her having good genes - in the news lately - rather than her training regime though.
We don't have the same opinion on what an attractive woman's shape is, and I would say that the huge majority of female athletes, despite being super fit, are not pleasing on the eye, at least not to mine.
I don't think sports women transforn that much with a bit of lippy and heels either. Obviously they look more like regular women then, but more Kellie Maloney than glamour puss in a lot of cases
She's obviously attractive. But my comments on this thread have been more geared towards performance.
Most athletes that can perform at a high level usually have attractive bodies, with some notable exceptions.
Also, women "transform" their looks. If you take a woman's soccer team that is in their uniforms with sports bras that are smashing their boobs flat, little or no makeup and hair pulled back in a pony tall then compare them to.the same team out on the town, all dressed up with makeup and their hair done, they appear very different..
Holly is obviously very strong and athletic, but also looks feminine, with great legs. That might be more down to her having good genes - in the news lately - rather than her training regime though.
We don't have the same opinion on what an attractive woman's shape is, and I would say that the huge majority of female athletes, despite being super fit, are not pleasing on the eye, at least not to mine.
I don't think sports women transforn that much with a bit of lippy and heels either. Obviously they look more like regular women then, but more Kellie Maloney than glamour puss in a lot of cases
She's in a sport that requires running and strong legs. She will have great looking legs as long as her body fat percentage is low enough, which shouldn't be too difficult for a rugby player.
I don't always find athletic women attractive. I just respect their craft and passion. I won't mock them for their looks even if don't always find them attractive.
If a butt ugly woman can do 10 pull-ups that's more impressive to me than an attractive girl who can't even hang on to the bar.
Who I want to see naked is different than who impresses me with the work they put in..
Vam said
Aug 31 9:10 PM, 2025
Wow…it’s probably the angle of the shot, but those legs seem to go on forever. I wonder how tall she is.
Am I the only one sensing there‘s been some photoshopping/editing of the image? From the knees on down, her right leg seems disproportionately thinner than her left leg - not to mention that clearly visible weird black line starting at the knees.
Red Okktober said
Aug 31 9:52 PM, 2025
Vam wrote:
Wow…it’s probably the angle of the shot, but those legs seem to go on forever. I wonder how tall she is.
Am I the only one sensing there‘s been some photoshopping/editing of the image? From the knees on down, her right leg seems disproportionately thinner than her left leg - not to mention that clearly visible weird black line starting at the knees.
Good observations Vam - you must have been good at those old 'spot the difference' puzzles!
It must be editing of some kind rather than her having a gammy leg
I can't imagine that she could play in a world cup cup if her legs were different sizes.
Maddog said
Aug 31 10:56 PM, 2025
Vam wrote:
Wow…it’s probably the angle of the shot, but those legs seem to go on forever. I wonder how tall she is.
Am I the only one sensing there‘s been some photoshopping/editing of the image? From the knees on down, her right leg seems disproportionately thinner than her left leg - not to mention that clearly visible weird black line starting at the knees.
That's probably forced perspective. People do that with fish photos to make the fish look bigger.
But all photographers edit images now because they shoot digital. At least those doing portrait type work for the subject of the photos..
Vam said
Aug 31 11:34 PM, 2025
Red Okktober wrote:
Vam wrote:
Wow…it’s probably the angle of the shot, but those legs seem to go on forever. I wonder how tall she is.
Am I the only one sensing there‘s been some photoshopping/editing of the image? From the knees on down, her right leg seems disproportionately thinner than her left leg - not to mention that clearly visible weird black line starting at the knees.
Good observations Vam - you must have been good at those old 'spot the difference' puzzles!
It must be editing of some kind rather than her having a gammy leg
I can't imagine that she could play in a world cup cup if her legs were different sizes.
😂 No way was I suggesting that!
And yeah, @Dawg, I get that pretty much every image gets tweaked nowadays. That’s all fine, of course.
But I’d sure recommend the LASIK treatment I had earlier this year, to whoever edited Holly Aitchison’s pic!
Anonymous said
Sep 2 6:59 PM, 2025
Vam wrote:
Wow…it’s probably the angle of the shot, but those legs seem to go on forever. I wonder how tall she is.
Am I the only one sensing there‘s been some photoshopping/editing of the image? From the knees on down, her right leg seems disproportionately thinner than her left leg - not to mention that clearly visible weird black line starting at the knees.
I just see her left leg slightly more forward than her right and the “black line” being a shadow from that left leg…what is gripping that ball? it’s not that left hand.
Syl said
Sep 3 1:48 PM, 2025
Beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder, but I personally don't think the girl above has nice shaped legs, they are pretty straight up and down, and that's even after the photo shop. A woman who really does have beautifully shaped legs is, imo, Kate Middleton, long, toned, slim and shapely....perfect legs.
Digger said
Sep 3 2:03 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder, but I personally don't think the girl above has nice shaped legs, they are pretty straight up and down, and that's even after the photo shop. A woman who really does have beautifully shaped legs is, imo, Kate Middleton, long, toned, slim and shapely....perfect legs.
i'd die for legs like that
Maddog said
Sep 3 2:41 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder, but I personally don't think the girl above has nice shaped legs, they are pretty straight up and down, and that's even after the photo shop. A woman who really does have beautifully shaped legs is, imo, Kate Middleton, long, toned, slim and shapely....perfect legs.
How much can she back squat?
Maddog said
Sep 3 2:48 PM, 2025
"It seems Kate has become enamoured of something called CrossFit, which was created by a Californian trainer called Greg Glassman. CrossFit aims to turn its many followers into muscle machines with a ruthless combination of resistance training, weights, running and squats."
The The Daily Mail.
If she does Crossfit she's lifting heavy as shit weights including doing dead lifts and squats.
So there's your answer as to how she looks so well..
No doubt it also helped her power through her recent health issues..
Syl said
Sep 3 2:53 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
"It seems Kate has become enamoured of something called CrossFit, which was created by a Californian trainer called Greg Glassman. CrossFit aims to turn its many followers into muscle machines with a ruthless combination of resistance training, weights, running and squats."
The The Daily Mail.
If she does Crossfit she's lifting heavy as shit weights including doing dead lifts and squats.
So there's your answer as to how she looks so well..
No doubt it also helped her power through her recent health issues..
She has always had great shaped legs...Crossfit or not.
With her recent cancer illness, she lost lot's of weight, her legs were still a great shape, only thinner.
Some people just have great assets....no matter how they choose to keep fit.
Maddog said
Sep 3 3:08 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
"It seems Kate has become enamoured of something called CrossFit, which was created by a Californian trainer called Greg Glassman. CrossFit aims to turn its many followers into muscle machines with a ruthless combination of resistance training, weights, running and squats."
The The Daily Mail.
If she does Crossfit she's lifting heavy as shit weights including doing dead lifts and squats.
So there's your answer as to how she looks so well..
No doubt it also helped her power through her recent health issues..
She has always had great shaped legs...Crossfit or not.
With her recent cancer illness, she lost lot's of weight, her legs were still a great shape, only thinner.
Some people just have great assets....no matter how they choose to keep fit.
Young people often look outstanding with zero effort.
She's managed to keep that young look by putting in the work in the gym.
Just another reason to be impressed by her and how she's an excellent role model.
She's in my daughter's generation and they look at the gym like going to the hairdresser it's just something you do if you want to look good and be healthy.
Syl said
Sep 3 3:14 PM, 2025
She is active, doing lots of things that will keep her fit looking and healthy. No need to lift heavy weights or do extreme workouts, she is doing what millions of women do as a matter of course.
"Princess Kate is known for her varied workout routines, which include cold swimming, tennis, interval training and more, as well as jumping on the trampoline and staying active with her children Prince George, 11, Princess Charlotte, 9, and Prince Louis, 6."
Maddog said
Sep 3 3:42 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
She is active, doing lots of things that will keep her fit looking and healthy. No need to lift heavy weights or do extreme workouts, she is doing what millions of women do as a matter of course.
"Princess Kate is known for her varied workout routines, which include cold swimming, tennis, interval training and more, as well as jumping on the trampoline and staying active with her children Prince George, 11, Princess Charlotte, 9, and Prince Louis, 6."
Yes, she does do a lot of things including Crossfit (the "and more" part)..
As everyone should.
I don't understand why you are so hostile to what is so clearly understood now.
Did someone drop a barbell on your foot?
Syl said
Sep 3 3:49 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
She is active, doing lots of things that will keep her fit looking and healthy. No need to lift heavy weights or do extreme workouts, she is doing what millions of women do as a matter of course.
"Princess Kate is known for her varied workout routines, which include cold swimming, tennis, interval training and more, as well as jumping on the trampoline and staying active with her children Prince George, 11, Princess Charlotte, 9, and Prince Louis, 6."
Yes, she does do a lot of things including Crossfit (the "and more" part)..
As everyone should.
I don't understand why you are so hostile to what is so clearly understood now.
Did someone drop a barbell on your foot?
No....I just think your 'all roads lead to Rome' attitude that heavy lifting and extreme exercise is the only way to go....is a bit silly.
Following up on my observations of the England women's football team, where they were all flat chested but nearly all had great arses, I watched some women's rugby earlier and couldn't find anything attractive at all about their body shapes. They were either all fat or muscular and had faces like bank robbers.
One had her shorts pulled half way down, revealing a massive arse, that you could probably strike a match on.
However, this lass appeared on the cover of my Sunday magazine last week.
Maddog - how do you rate her in comparison to that US player you posted a pic of?
I watch a lot of clips of his podcast, but I never really knew who he was..
I know Chris Williamson was on Big Brother but I never watched that..
Both are very intelligent men who have interesting guests..
She's obviously attractive. But my comments on this thread have been more geared towards performance.
Most athletes that can perform at a high level usually have attractive bodies, with some notable exceptions.
Also, women "transform" their looks. If you take a woman's soccer team that is in their uniforms with sports bras that are smashing their boobs flat, little or no makeup and hair pulled back in a pony tall then compare them to.the same team out on the town, all dressed up with makeup and their hair done, they appear very different..
Here is Holly on the pitch. While I'm not trying to make this about looks, she appears very different, like many female athletes.
-- Edited by Maddog on Sunday 31st of August 2025 05:58:57 PM
Holly is obviously very strong and athletic, but also looks feminine, with great legs. That might be more down to her having good genes - in the news lately - rather than her training regime though.
We don't have the same opinion on what an attractive woman's shape is, and I would say that the huge majority of female athletes, despite being super fit, are not pleasing on the eye, at least not to mine.
I don't think sports women transforn that much with a bit of lippy and heels either. Obviously they look more like regular women then, but more Kellie Maloney than glamour puss in a lot of cases
She's in a sport that requires running and strong legs. She will have great looking legs as long as her body fat percentage is low enough, which shouldn't be too difficult for a rugby player.
I don't always find athletic women attractive. I just respect their craft and passion. I won't mock them for their looks even if don't always find them attractive.
If a butt ugly woman can do 10 pull-ups that's more impressive to me than an attractive girl who can't even hang on to the bar.
Who I want to see naked is different than who impresses me with the work they put in..
Wow…it’s probably the angle of the shot, but those legs seem to go on forever. I wonder how tall she is.
Am I the only one sensing there‘s been some photoshopping/editing of the image? From the knees on down, her right leg seems disproportionately thinner than her left leg - not to mention that clearly visible weird black line starting at the knees.
Good observations Vam - you must have been good at those old 'spot the difference' puzzles!
It must be editing of some kind rather than her having a gammy leg
I can't imagine that she could play in a world cup cup if her legs were different sizes.
That's probably forced perspective. People do that with fish photos to make the fish look bigger.
But all photographers edit images now because they shoot digital. At least those doing portrait type work for the subject of the photos..
😂 No way was I suggesting that!
And yeah, @Dawg, I get that pretty much every image gets tweaked nowadays. That’s all fine, of course.
But I’d sure recommend the LASIK treatment I had earlier this year, to whoever edited Holly Aitchison’s pic!
I just see her left leg slightly more forward than her right and the “black line” being a shadow from that left leg…what is gripping that ball? it’s not that left hand.
Beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder, but I personally don't think the girl above has nice shaped legs, they are pretty straight up and down, and that's even after the photo shop.
A woman who really does have beautifully shaped legs is, imo, Kate Middleton, long, toned, slim and shapely....perfect legs.
i'd die for legs like that
How much can she back squat?
The The Daily Mail.
If she does Crossfit she's lifting heavy as shit weights including doing dead lifts and squats.
So there's your answer as to how she looks so well..
No doubt it also helped her power through her recent health issues..
She has always had great shaped legs...Crossfit or not.
With her recent cancer illness, she lost lot's of weight, her legs were still a great shape, only thinner.
Some people just have great assets....no matter how they choose to keep fit.
Young people often look outstanding with zero effort.
She's managed to keep that young look by putting in the work in the gym.
Just another reason to be impressed by her and how she's an excellent role model.
She's in my daughter's generation and they look at the gym like going to the hairdresser it's just something you do if you want to look good and be healthy.
She is active, doing lots of things that will keep her fit looking and healthy. No need to lift heavy weights or do extreme workouts, she is doing what millions of women do as a matter of course.
"Princess Kate is known for her varied workout routines, which include cold swimming, tennis, interval training and more, as well as jumping on the trampoline and staying active with her children Prince George, 11, Princess Charlotte, 9, and Prince Louis, 6."
Yes, she does do a lot of things including Crossfit (the "and more" part)..
As everyone should.
I don't understand why you are so hostile to what is so clearly understood now.
Did someone drop a barbell on your foot?
No....I just think your 'all roads lead to Rome' attitude that heavy lifting and extreme exercise is the only way to go....is a bit silly.