Y'all think a professional soccer player doesn't exercise?
He's in the gym all of the time to protect his assets, his legs
Of course footballers exercise to keep up strength and fitness levels. I played football myself when I was younger so know the amount of effort required to maintain those good fitness levels.
Here's what Grealish himself says:
" Jack Grealish states his large calves are due to genetics, not exercise.He mentions his granddad and mother also had big calves, indicating it runs in the family.Grealish has repeatedly said he doesn't do specific calf exercises and attributes his calf size to a hereditary trait from a young age. "
Red Okktober said
Sep 3 7:15 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
You can't grow your head or your nose.
How can you not know what CrossFit is?
I mean I don't follow badminton, but I know what it is..
Just never heard of it. I'm not a gym person.
I've done cross training before which I guess might be the same, or at least similar. CrossFit with the capital F sounds more commercial though, maybe an American thing?
I know people with legs like that who've never been in a gym.
Everybody does, except Maddog.
Barksdale said
Sep 4 1:46 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
If a child can do it, it's not extreme.
It's just that western people have lost their ability to remain flexible as they age because we use chairs too much..
Yup, and my lack of flexibility is a concern of mine too as I age, especially my hip flexors.
I have to say I am a little surprised as well by some of the pushback you get on this thread. A lot of what you say is simply good practice from decades of research in exercise science.
For example, we know that hip injuries and especially hip fractures are common in older people and contribute to higher mortality rates due to complications which arise from them. So you want to avoid falling as you age but if you do be less likely to suffer a fracture. How can you do that? Resistance / weight training to improve bone density and mobility / functional training to improve mobility generally.
It's not the only way but is probably the most direct route to the desired goal.
Anonymous said
Sep 4 2:22 PM, 2025
Barksdale wrote:
I have to say I am a little surprised as well by some of the pushback you get on this thread. A lot of what you say is simply good practice from decades of research in exercise science.
It's probably not as much to do with the message as it is to do with the messenger.
Syl said
Sep 4 2:33 PM, 2025
Barksdale wrote:
Maddog wrote:
If a child can do it, it's not extreme.
It's just that western people have lost their ability to remain flexible as they age because we use chairs too much..
Yup, and my lack of flexibility is a concern of mine too as I age, especially my hip flexors.
I have to say I am a little surprised as well by some of the pushback you get on this thread. A lot of what you say is simply good practice from decades of research in exercise science.
For example, we know that hip injuries and especially hip fractures are common in older people and contribute to higher mortality rates due to complications which arise from them. So you want to avoid falling as you age but if you do be less likely to suffer a fracture. How can you do that? Resistance / weight training to improve bone density and mobility / functional training to improve mobility generally.
It's not the only way but is probably the most direct route to the desired goal.
Barksdale, it's not all about flexibility.
I amaze the consultants, and then after the ops, the physio's, with my flexibility. I was told after going through various exercises by a consultant that he very much doubted I would need any replacements because my movements were so free, he couldn't believe it when he saw the Xrays. I have had three replacements since...and I am still just as flexible.
Some people have hereditary conditions, osteoarthritis being one, that all the stretching, weightlifting and exercising cannot prevent the need for ops.
No one is saying that all of the above are wrong, just that they are not the be all and end all cure for everyone.
I know people with legs like that who've never been in a gym.
It's possible, but I assure you professional soccer players are in the gym or.doing some sort of serious resistance training for their legs. It's probably in their contract because they are worthless, hurt and on the bench.
Maddog said
Sep 4 5:42 PM, 2025
Barksdale wrote:
Maddog wrote:
If a child can do it, it's not extreme.
It's just that western people have lost their ability to remain flexible as they age because we use chairs too much..
Yup, and my lack of flexibility is a concern of mine too as I age, especially my hip flexors.
I have to say I am a little surprised as well by some of the pushback you get on this thread. A lot of what you say is simply good practice from decades of research in exercise science.
For example, we know that hip injuries and especially hip fractures are common in older people and contribute to higher mortality rates due to complications which arise from them. So you want to avoid falling as you age but if you do be less likely to suffer a fracture. How can you do that? Resistance / weight training to improve bone density and mobility / functional training to improve mobility generally.
It's not the only way but is probably the most direct route to the desired goal.
Yup, I'm putting significantly more time into mobility. It's by far the weakest part of my fitness.
As for the pushback on this thread, it is surprising but I think an age thing, and based on your comments and understanding of the topic, not a US vs UK thing..
Also, Kate doing CrossFit sorta cemented the ides that younger females in the UK know this stuff and aren't so hostile to sound health advice..
Thankfully, almost gone are the days where a "proper lady" doesn't sweat, grunt and lift heavy objects, since that's exactly what your princess does, albeit privately..
Maddog said
Sep 4 6:06 PM, 2025
From the Harvard medical journal (not that this hasn't been stated numerous times already on this thread.........
"But if there's one osteoarthritis treatment an individual with osteoarthritis should do every day, it's exercise. Regular exercise strengthens muscles and improves flexibility and balance. It not only helps ease pain and stiffness but also improves overall health. It's also good for your mood and for staving off other conditions prevalent in older age.
Exercise as an integral part of prevention and treatment of osteoarthritis, especially in people ages 65 and over. After reviewing the evidence, the group also concluded that moderate-intensity exercise does not — as some have feared — increase the risk for osteoarthritis."
My knees are in far better shape than they were a little over a year ago..
-- Edited by Maddog on Friday 5th of September 2025 01:29:33 AM
Looks like fun...
Barksdale said
Sep 5 4:08 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Barksdale, it's not all about flexibility.
I amaze the consultants, and then after the ops, the physio's, with my flexibility. I was told after going through various exercises by a consultant that he very much doubted I would need any replacements because my movements were so free, he couldn't believe it when he saw the Xrays. I have had three replacements since...and I am still just as flexible.
Some people have hereditary conditions, osteoarthritis being one, that all the stretching, weightlifting and exercising cannot prevent the need for ops.
No one is saying that all of the above are wrong, just that they are not the be all and end all cure for everyone.
Sure, completely accept there are things outside of our control which can tilt things against or for us.
However, there are things we can do which are in our control and increase our odds of a long and healthy life so it makes sense to do them. Ultimately however the best exercise for an individual is one which they can do regularly over time.
Maddog said
Sep 5 4:26 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
And if Meghan is more your speed vs Kate here is her favorite workout..😎
-- Edited by Maddog on Friday 5th of September 2025 01:29:33 AM
Looks like fun...
There's a reason its called a workout, not a fun out.
Maddog said
Sep 5 5:20 PM, 2025
Barksdale wrote:
Syl wrote:
Barksdale, it's not all about flexibility.
I amaze the consultants, and then after the ops, the physio's, with my flexibility. I was told after going through various exercises by a consultant that he very much doubted I would need any replacements because my movements were so free, he couldn't believe it when he saw the Xrays. I have had three replacements since...and I am still just as flexible.
Some people have hereditary conditions, osteoarthritis being one, that all the stretching, weightlifting and exercising cannot prevent the need for ops.
No one is saying that all of the above are wrong, just that they are not the be all and end all cure for everyone.
Sure, completely accept there are things outside of our control which can tilt things against or for us.
However, there are things we can do which are in our control and increase our odds of a long and healthy life so it makes sense to do them. Ultimately however the best exercise for an individual is one which they can do regularly over time.
And even ailments or accidents outside of your control can be mitigated by strength training, diet and the like.
Sarcopenia is the condition that makes every other condition worse..
Syl said
Sep 5 6:05 PM, 2025
This is my last post in this thread....because it goes round in circles.
For me, and I don't speak for anyone else, my small weights that weigh 81b in each hand, (which Maddog sniffed at) has been part of my daily excercise routine for years, sometimes repetition not weight can give a good work out, and it works for me.
I don't doubt Maddog takes his fitness seriously, but one size does not fit all...and that's the thing that Maddog can't accept.
Of course footballers exercise to keep up strength and fitness levels. I played football myself when I was younger so know the amount of effort required to maintain those good fitness levels.
Here's what Grealish himself says:
" Jack Grealish states his large calves are due to genetics, not exercise. He mentions his granddad and mother also had big calves, indicating it runs in the family. Grealish has repeatedly said he doesn't do specific calf exercises and attributes his calf size to a hereditary trait from a young age. "
Just never heard of it. I'm not a gym person.
I've done cross training before which I guess might be the same, or at least similar. CrossFit with the capital F sounds more commercial though, maybe an American thing?
I'll bet you there are 3 times as many. These are the "best" 26..🤷
I know people with legs like that who've never been in a gym.
This is where your problem lies, and no amount of weightlifting will cure it.
Everybody does, except Maddog.
Yup, and my lack of flexibility is a concern of mine too as I age, especially my hip flexors.
I have to say I am a little surprised as well by some of the pushback you get on this thread. A lot of what you say is simply good practice from decades of research in exercise science.
For example, we know that hip injuries and especially hip fractures are common in older people and contribute to higher mortality rates due to complications which arise from them. So you want to avoid falling as you age but if you do be less likely to suffer a fracture. How can you do that? Resistance / weight training to improve bone density and mobility / functional training to improve mobility generally.
It's not the only way but is probably the most direct route to the desired goal.
It's probably not as much to do with the message as it is to do with the messenger.
Barksdale, it's not all about flexibility.
I amaze the consultants, and then after the ops, the physio's, with my flexibility. I was told after going through various exercises by a consultant that he very much doubted I would need any replacements because my movements were so free, he couldn't believe it when he saw the Xrays. I have had three replacements since...and I am still just as flexible.
Some people have hereditary conditions, osteoarthritis being one, that all the stretching, weightlifting and exercising cannot prevent the need for ops.
No one is saying that all of the above are wrong, just that they are not the be all and end all cure for everyone.
It's possible, but I assure you professional soccer players are in the gym or.doing some sort of serious resistance training for their legs. It's probably in their contract because they are worthless, hurt and on the bench.
Yup, I'm putting significantly more time into mobility. It's by far the weakest part of my fitness.
As for the pushback on this thread, it is surprising but I think an age thing, and based on your comments and understanding of the topic, not a US vs UK thing..
Also, Kate doing CrossFit sorta cemented the ides that younger females in the UK know this stuff and aren't so hostile to sound health advice..
Thankfully, almost gone are the days where a "proper lady" doesn't sweat, grunt and lift heavy objects, since that's exactly what your princess does, albeit privately..
"But if there's one osteoarthritis treatment an individual with osteoarthritis should do every day, it's exercise. Regular exercise strengthens muscles and improves flexibility and balance. It not only helps ease pain and stiffness but also improves overall health. It's also good for your mood and for staving off other conditions prevalent in older age.
Exercise as an integral part of prevention and treatment of osteoarthritis, especially in people ages 65 and over. After reviewing the evidence, the group also concluded that moderate-intensity exercise does not — as some have feared — increase the risk for osteoarthritis."
My knees are in far better shape than they were a little over a year ago..
A lot of very good data here, beyond my anecdotal evidence for my own OA..
And if Meghan is more your speed vs Kate here is her favorite workout..😎
youtube.com/shorts/4Weo5VN_6YI
-- Edited by Maddog on Friday 5th of September 2025 01:29:33 AM
Looks like fun...
Sure, completely accept there are things outside of our control which can tilt things against or for us.
However, there are things we can do which are in our control and increase our odds of a long and healthy life so it makes sense to do them. Ultimately however the best exercise for an individual is one which they can do regularly over time.
There's a reason its called a workout, not a fun out.
And even ailments or accidents outside of your control can be mitigated by strength training, diet and the like.
Sarcopenia is the condition that makes every other condition worse..
For me, and I don't speak for anyone else, my small weights that weigh 81b in each hand, (which Maddog sniffed at) has been part of my daily excercise routine for years, sometimes repetition not weight can give a good work out, and it works for me.
I don't doubt Maddog takes his fitness seriously, but one size does not fit all...and that's the thing that Maddog can't accept.