Magica wrote:

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I can't print what think of him 🤐

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 Oh go on, why break the habit of a lifetime?

Syl wrote:

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Magica wrote:

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I can't print what think of him 🤐

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 Oh go on, why break the habit of a lifetime?

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 I was waiting for that 

I can’t see NHS Fife coming out looking good in all this no matter the outcome. Here is a snippet from Sandie Peggie’s lawyer and witness Esther Davidson …

“ One of the most extraordinary moments of the whole tribunal so far has come from this witness.

https://x.com/WingsScotland/status/1890052566127628557 

( ED - Esther Davidson, SP’s line manager / NC - Naomi Cunningham, Sandie Peggie lawyer )

NC - "Does a man become a woman if he grows his hair?"

ED - “No."

"If he shaves his beard?"

"No."

NC - "If he uses makeup?"

ED - “No."

NC - "If he puts on a dress?"

ED - “Um, probably, yes." “

and DNA (I’m assuming, notes are a tad sketchy in places)…

NC - it will tell you sex

ED - yes NC - a cheek swab will tell you if body is m or F

ED - will give you DNA, individual to everyone

NC - will tell if M or F

ED - yes it's your unique identity

NC - those tests won't be changed by hair, make up, clothes

ED - I don't know, [i’m just] a nurse “

someone should make a sitcom out of this shite.

Syl wrote:

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It's farcical, isn't it.
Mind you, if Starmer can't tell the difference between a man or a woman, what chance do they have?

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 I can’t accept that a nursing line manager is really that thick so I‘m taking it that she’s terrified of losing her job and upsetting the trans mob…lying, even under oath.

Sandie was given the option to change in the loo (sod hygiene eh) and got quite angry. Point being this nonce has also got full access to the ladies if and when he chooses. How many others feel the same as Sandie but too frightened to complain?

The Union backs this nonce too. JKR is calling for the Fife management board to be sacked. if people’s health and well being weren’t on the line I’d be happy for nurses to go on strike for this, see how long these nonces and their management boards can keep the NHS going. The harassment going on here must be illegal surely.

The brother of Mary Lockhart who is on the board of NHS Fife.

I'm starting to understand why Big Ted the pervy doctor was backed up by the health board.

Vita wrote:

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The brother of Mary Lockhart who is on the board of NHS Fife.

I'm starting to understand why Big Ted the pervy doctor was backed up by the health board.

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 I can’t say I’m really surprised Vita as it’s stumped me from Day 1 why the management have staunchly defended the male doctor. Vested interest, deny Upton’s validity would be denying her brother’s. She used to work at/for Scottish Women’s Aid - now that I find frightening…I wonder where she stood re these frocked males being allowed to take refuge, would she deny her brother and his ilk for instance?

I’ve just read that Mary and her brother (above) are “both married/engaged to women” (although the brother used to do the deed with men in the past). Tangled web.

Slightly off topic: Compare the UK authorities concerns re the reputation of the NHS to the swift action taken by NSW health authorities dealing with the two Muslim nurses videoed (verbally attacking/threatening an Israeli)…immediately suspended and being investigated. More serious a case I know but the authorities over there more transparent and fast acting than the wimps over here. Look up Ahmad Rashad Nadir and his female sidekick Sarah Abu Lebdeh.

Vita wrote:

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The brother of Mary Lockhart who is on the board of NHS Fife.

I'm starting to understand why Big Ted the pervy doctor was backed up by the health board.

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 No matter how much they dress up, they still look and are men!

Syl wrote:

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I honestly feel sorry for the genuine transsexuals, who have had mental assessments, therapy, lived as women and had gender reassignment surgeries, they have taken years to be transformed, mentally and physically.
They are not biological women, and I bet the vast majority of them accept that they never will be. They just try to get on with their lives quietly.

Then these men in frocks come along and bully others into accepting them to be what they clearly are not.

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 That's exactly what's going down.   I do feel this will turn full circle.   It's all too insane to endure.

It's insane because the bloody authorities are allowing all this to happen.

Years ago, I knew a woman (you may have known her too, she did quite a lot of elaborated costume making) She had premises where men could go, dress up, try on wigs and make up, she would help them look their best....then they would get dressed in their suits and ties, go off home, and live their lives as normal. She had lots of regulars.

They didn't shout about it, insist others treated them as women, they were simply transvestites that released their inner desires in safe surroundings, and certainly didn't encroach on women's public  spaces.

Ahhh...the good old days. 

Magica wrote:

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Vita wrote:

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The brother of Mary Lockhart who is on the board of NHS Fife.

I'm starting to understand why Big Ted the pervy doctor was backed up by the health board.

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 No matter how much they dress up, they still look and are men!

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 Adams apple, big hands and feet, receding hairline.

Make up and a dress can't change that.

Syl wrote:

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I honestly feel sorry for the genuine transsexuals, who have had mental assessments, therapy, lived as women and had gender reassignment surgeries, they have taken years to be transformed, mentally and physically.
They are not biological women, and I bet the vast majority of them accept that they never will be. They just try to get on with their lives quietly.

Then these men in frocks come along and bully others into accepting them to be what they clearly are not.

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 You should read some of Debbie Hayton's comments on gender.

She makes a lot of sense and gets a lot of abuse.

She once told someone that Transwomen are men and got loads of abuse.

Was even called transphobic.

Debbie is genuine trans, had surgery etc but accepts she can never be a biological woman.

There was a documentary on the television once about a place in England where men would go and pick outfits, get their make up done nice and all go for a meal together.

It might be the place Syl is talking about.

Following are tweet summations (JKR) - actual batshit tweets are in the links. As JKR says “ 2025 Batshit Take of the Year Awards.

We all know that us women bring rape upon ourselves due to how we act and dress (because men have told us so) but did you also know that…

It's women's fault if trans-identified men commit sexual assault in previously women-only spaces, because by saying that's a thing that happens, women put the idea in men's heads." https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1890829715616711036

and that…

we have ‘a higher percentage of trans-identified men are imprisoned for sex crimes, compared to men in general, because transphobes are mean to them.’ https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1891130074365034804

Hang your heads in shame ladies we are totally to blame. Again.

Vita wrote:

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There was a documentary on the television once about a place in England where men would go and pick outfits, get their make up done nice and all go for a meal together.

It might be the place Syl is talking about.

 

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 It could have been, the place I mentioned was in Salford, Vita.

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Following are tweet summations (JKR) - actual batshit tweets are in the links. As JKR says “ 2025 Batshit Take of the Year Awards.

We all know that us women bring rape upon ourselves due to how we act and dress (because men have told us so) but did you also know that…

It's women's fault if trans-identified men commit sexual assault in previously women-only spaces, because by saying that's a thing that happens, women put the idea in men's heads." https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1890829715616711036

and that…

we have ‘a higher percentage of trans-identified men are imprisoned for sex crimes, compared to men in general, because transphobes are mean to them.’ https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1891130074365034804

 

 

Hang your heads in shame ladies we are totally to blame. Again.

 

 

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 Ofcourse it's always been us women's fault. 

Digger wrote:

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 Dear God what is that- a male pretending to be female or a female pretending to be male? Serious question.

I wouldn’t hire it whatever it’s supposed to be.

Anonymous wrote:

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Digger wrote:

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 Dear God what is that- a male pretending to be female or a female pretending to be male? Serious question.

I wouldn’t hire it whatever it’s supposed to be.

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 Yuk!