And if it is, how do we fix it when we have successive governments that don't seem to know their arse from their elbow.
There is zero chance of it being fixed when the typical Brit looks at their government as their nanny..
More money will be spent buying favor from the useful idiots, under the guise of helping them.
Anonymous said
Jul 6 7:37 PM, 2025
Red Okktober wrote:
Magica wrote:
Why am I not surprised!
I remember her being interviewed during the 'migrant crisis' - she was firmly in the 'let them all in, they are desperate' camp
And now she has this job. She is so weak and ineffective.
She reminds me more of someone who works part time in a charity shop or a florists.
It’s always the ones that will never ever have to endure these immigrants on a daily basis that spout this crap.
I’ve recently been watching a fair few videos re the Irish making their feelings known about the immigrants infesting their communities, down to them confronting the sexual predators over there. Kudos.
I never thought I’d take notice of Tommy Robinson’s tweets either. That’s how bad things have become, imo.
Magica said
Jul 6 8:00 PM, 2025
Red Okktober wrote:
Magica wrote:
Why am I not surprised!
I remember her being interviewed during the 'migrant crisis' - she was firmly in the 'let them all in, they are desperate' camp
And now she has this job. She is so weak and ineffective.
She reminds me more of someone who works part time in a charity shop or a florists.
They will never stop them piling in. They seem to want the invaders here. I wonder why?
Syl said
Jul 6 11:43 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
And if it is, how do we fix it when we have successive governments that don't seem to know their arse from their elbow.
There is zero chance of it being fixed when the typical Brit looks at their government as their nanny..
More money will be spent buying favor from the useful idiots, under the guise of helping them.
I think the typical Brit is sick and tired of this and previous governments, and we certainly don't want to live in a nanny state.
But unfortunately, someone has to be voted in, so we are stuck with Labour for the next four years....just as you are stuck with Trump.
Maddog said
Jul 7 12:03 AM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
And if it is, how do we fix it when we have successive governments that don't seem to know their arse from their elbow.
There is zero chance of it being fixed when the typical Brit looks at their government as their nanny..
More money will be spent buying favor from the useful idiots, under the guise of helping them.
I think the typical Brit is sick and tired of this and previous governments, and we certainly don't want to live in a nanny state.
But unfortunately, someone has to be voted in, so we are stuck with Labour for the next four years....just as you are stuck with Trump.
Really? Because it seems to me that the mantra is always "what is the government going to do to help us"?
Syl said
Jul 7 12:20 AM, 2025
Millions of people live their lives without expecting handouts from the government.
Less so now admittedly, but people of my generation worked or went without.
We bought our houses, saved for our retirement, and live well without any government handouts....apart from state pensions, which many contributed to for 50 plus years.
Digger said
Jul 7 12:31 AM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
Magica wrote:
Why am I not surprised!
I remember her being interviewed during the 'migrant crisis' - she was firmly in the 'let them all in, they are desperate' camp
And now she has this job. She is so weak and ineffective.
She reminds me more of someone who works part time in a charity shop or a florists.
They will never stop them piling in. They seem to want the invaders here. I wonder why?
Because our current government are weak. Australia got it sorted.
Agreements with other nations:
Australia has agreements with countries like Papua New Guinea and Nauru to transfer individuals arriving by boat for processing outside of Australia.
Offshore detention centers:
Asylum seekers arriving by boat are held in offshore processing centers in Nauru and Manus Island, Papua New Guinea, while their claims are assessed.
No resettlement in Australia:
If granted refugee status, they are resettled in PNG, Nauru, or other countries, not in Australia.
Magica said
Jul 7 12:36 AM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
Magica wrote:
Why am I not surprised!
I remember her being interviewed during the 'migrant crisis' - she was firmly in the 'let them all in, they are desperate' camp
And now she has this job. She is so weak and ineffective.
She reminds me more of someone who works part time in a charity shop or a florists.
They will never stop them piling in. They seem to want the invaders here. I wonder why?
Because our current government are weak. Australia got it sorted.
Agreements with other nations:
Australia has agreements with countries like Papua New Guinea and Nauru to transfer individuals arriving by boat for processing outside of Australia.
Offshore detention centers:
Asylum seekers arriving by boat are held in offshore processing centers in Nauru and Manus Island, Papua New Guinea, while their claims are assessed.
No resettlement in Australia:
If granted refugee status, they are resettled in PNG, Nauru, or other countries, not in Australia.
Exactly Digs and we got nada nothing! Just useless bloody Stammer!
Digger said
Jul 7 12:52 AM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Millions of people live their lives without expecting handouts from the government. Less so now admittedly, but people of my generation worked or went without.
We bought our houses, saved for our retirement, and live well without any government handouts....apart from state pensions, which many contributed to for 50 plus years.
I sympathise with kids regarding getting on the housing ladder only to a certain extent. Let's look at this.
You see a house or flat for £170k. You save up 5K for a deposit. You earn 34K, the average wage these days for someone aged 25. You take out your mortgage over 30 years which means you could have it paid off by the time you're 55. Interest rate at the moment averages 4.67%. That's £853 a month. For the same sized house rental, you'll pay over a grand.
Is that do-able for someone on £34K? Yes it is. But....you have to make sacrifices. And that is something young people these days seem reluctant to do.
OK, we have kids who don't and perhaps never will earn £34K. So...
You see a flat for £35K (I've just found one on Rightmove so they do exist). It needs a lot of work but it's sound. You earn minimum wage at 37 week for £19,584 per annum. You need a deposit of £3.500. You will pay interest at 4.67 at the current rate so your monthly mortgage will be £163 a month over 30 years.
So I don't get that this is out of the grasp of young people who are working. But it needs sacrifice. It means you can't go out and party every weekend. You cant have that top end mobile phone or that pair of £200 boots.
Our generation sacrificed. Gen Z don't. They'd rather live at home being pandered to by spineless parents, with all the perks, than go out, get their house and make SACRIFICES.
Syl said
Jul 7 1:06 AM, 2025
Past generations had so little compared to present.
I know when we first bought our house, we were skint for the first few years, not least because the interest rate soared to 17%.
It didn't help that I got pregnant 2 months into the marriage either.
But we managed on one wage (no handouts) and it all worked out.
Magica said
Jul 7 1:56 AM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Past generations had so little compared to present. I know when we first bought our house, we were skint for the first few years, not least because the interest rate soared to 17%. It didn't help that I got pregnant 2 months into the marriage either.
But we managed on one wage (no handouts) and it all worked out.
Same. Got married, had our children. Lived in on one wage until my kids started school, then I got a job there.
Later we bought a house. We went without, but the kids didnt. No hand outs no social to help us out, just work and saving up for anything we needed.
Yet we appreciated everything we had, because we worked for it.
Syl said
Jul 7 12:29 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Past generations had so little compared to present. I know when we first bought our house, we were skint for the first few years, not least because the interest rate soared to 17%. It didn't help that I got pregnant 2 months into the marriage either.
But we managed on one wage (no handouts) and it all worked out.
Same. Got married, had our children. Lived in on one wage until my kids started school, then I got a job there.
Later we bought a house. We went without, but the kids didnt. No hand outs no social to help us out, just work and saving up for anything we needed.
Yet we appreciated everything we had, because we worked for it.
And it's that mindset that makes the older generation tough.
Not as tough as the ones before who fought wars, but tough enough to not expect everything to fall into our laps with little effort.
Vam said
Jul 7 1:38 PM, 2025
I still recall Diggs’ triumph-over-adversity backstory I honestly was quite moved by it.
Digger said
Jul 7 1:42 PM, 2025
Vam wrote:
I still recall Diggs’ triumph-over-adversity backstory I honestly was quite moved by it.
I think what I've been through definitely hardened me up. I just don't have much sympathy with people who won't help themselves.
Magica said
Jul 7 3:18 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Past generations had so little compared to present. I know when we first bought our house, we were skint for the first few years, not least because the interest rate soared to 17%. It didn't help that I got pregnant 2 months into the marriage either.
But we managed on one wage (no handouts) and it all worked out.
Same. Got married, had our children. Lived in on one wage until my kids started school, then I got a job there.
Later we bought a house. We went without, but the kids didnt. No hand outs no social to help us out, just work and saving up for anything we needed.
Yet we appreciated everything we had, because we worked for it.
And it's that mindset that makes the older generation tough.
Not as tough as the ones before who fought wars, but tough enough to not expect everything to fall into our laps with little effort.
Exactly Syl. My parents wouldn't have allowed us to sit back and do nothing, same as we did to our kids. It carries on down the line through families.
Maddog said
Jul 7 6:29 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Past generations had so little compared to present. I know when we first bought our house, we were skint for the first few years, not least because the interest rate soared to 17%. It didn't help that I got pregnant 2 months into the marriage either.
But we managed on one wage (no handouts) and it all worked out.
Same. Got married, had our children. Lived in on one wage until my kids started school, then I got a job there.
Later we bought a house. We went without, but the kids didnt. No hand outs no social to help us out, just work and saving up for anything we needed.
Yet we appreciated everything we had, because we worked for it.
And it's that mindset that makes the older generation tough.
Not as tough as the ones before who fought wars, but tough enough to not expect everything to fall into our laps with little effort.
You're being replaced by people that were indoctrinated into believing your generation and your beliefs are the problem. That you can have food, shelter, medical care and living expenses paid for by others.
They believe that by either birth or immigration, society owes them something and there's no shortage of politicians that will tap into that...
Maddog said
Jul 7 6:42 PM, 2025
Much of the West is in Phase 3 and knocking on the door of Phase 4..
Much of the West is in Phase 3 and knocking on the door of Phase 4..
I agree with this completely. All the blokes on the internet mocking women, saying men are the Prize and women will forever be single and unhappy (although every study has shown married men and single women are the most content, married women and single men are less pleased with their lot) should join the Army for a year.
Not young men with a job or men honestly trying to get one, just the young men who ridicule women all day on their smartphones and won't deign to work . It's these men that complain women don't want them and the reason is they are not masculine enough. If they did manage to complete the Army training they would return home looking and feeling energised and would have less trouble attracting women.
The Manosphere relies on inactive spiteful men to spout it's damaging narrative.Things would change in a heartbeat if modern young men felt good about themselves, and this is one way to do that.
Maddog said
Jul 7 8:07 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Much of the West is in Phase 3 and knocking on the door of Phase 4..
I agree with this completely. All the blokes on the internet mocking women, saying men are the Prize and women will forever be single and unhappy (although every study has shown married men and single women are the most content, married women and single men are less pleased with their lot) should join the Army for a year.
Not young men with a job or men honestly trying to get one, just the young men who ridicule women all day on their smartphones and won't deign to work . It's these men that complain women don't want them and the reason is they are not masculine enough. If they did manage to complete the Army training they would return home looking and feeling energised and would have less trouble attracting women.
The Manosphere relies on inactive spiteful men to spout it's damaging narrative.Things would change in a heartbeat if modern young men felt good about themselves, and this is one way to do that.
While there might be some overlap the manosphere and incels are two distinct groups.
The men in the manosphere are getting laid. 😉
Maddog said
Jul 8 5:37 PM, 2025
Too add more, most men in the manosphere would be in the first two pictures of the meme..
The current leader of the UK would be in the third..
There is zero chance of it being fixed when the typical Brit looks at their government as their nanny..
More money will be spent buying favor from the useful idiots, under the guise of helping them.
It’s always the ones that will never ever have to endure these immigrants on a daily basis that spout this crap.
I’ve recently been watching a fair few videos re the Irish making their feelings known about the immigrants infesting their communities, down to them confronting the sexual predators over there. Kudos.
I never thought I’d take notice of Tommy Robinson’s tweets either. That’s how bad things have become, imo.
They will never stop them piling in. They seem to want the invaders here. I wonder why?
I think the typical Brit is sick and tired of this and previous governments, and we certainly don't want to live in a nanny state.
But unfortunately, someone has to be voted in, so we are stuck with Labour for the next four years....just as you are stuck with Trump.
Really? Because it seems to me that the mantra is always "what is the government going to do to help us"?
Less so now admittedly, but people of my generation worked or went without.
We bought our houses, saved for our retirement, and live well without any government handouts....apart from state pensions, which many contributed to for 50 plus years.
Because our current government are weak. Australia got it sorted.
Exactly Digs and we got nada nothing! Just useless bloody Stammer!
I sympathise with kids regarding getting on the housing ladder only to a certain extent. Let's look at this.
You see a house or flat for £170k. You save up 5K for a deposit. You earn 34K, the average wage these days for someone aged 25. You take out your mortgage over 30 years which means you could have it paid off by the time you're 55. Interest rate at the moment averages 4.67%. That's £853 a month. For the same sized house rental, you'll pay over a grand.
Is that do-able for someone on £34K? Yes it is. But....you have to make sacrifices. And that is something young people these days seem reluctant to do.
OK, we have kids who don't and perhaps never will earn £34K. So...
You see a flat for £35K (I've just found one on Rightmove so they do exist). It needs a lot of work but it's sound. You earn minimum wage at 37 week for £19,584 per annum. You need a deposit of £3.500. You will pay interest at 4.67 at the current rate so your monthly mortgage will be £163 a month over 30 years.
So I don't get that this is out of the grasp of young people who are working. But it needs sacrifice. It means you can't go out and party every weekend. You cant have that top end mobile phone or that pair of £200 boots.
Our generation sacrificed. Gen Z don't. They'd rather live at home being pandered to by spineless parents, with all the perks, than go out, get their house and make SACRIFICES.
I know when we first bought our house, we were skint for the first few years, not least because the interest rate soared to 17%.
It didn't help that I got pregnant 2 months into the marriage either.
But we managed on one wage (no handouts) and it all worked out.
Same. Got married, had our children. Lived in on one wage until my kids started school, then I got a job there.
Later we bought a house. We went without, but the kids didnt. No hand outs no social to help us out, just work and saving up for anything we needed.
Yet we appreciated everything we had, because we worked for it.
And it's that mindset that makes the older generation tough.
Not as tough as the ones before who fought wars, but tough enough to not expect everything to fall into our laps with little effort.
I still recall Diggs’ triumph-over-adversity backstory
I honestly was quite moved by it.
I think what I've been through definitely hardened me up. I just don't have much sympathy with people who won't help themselves.
Exactly Syl. My parents wouldn't have allowed us to sit back and do nothing, same as we did to our kids. It carries on down the line through families.
You're being replaced by people that were indoctrinated into believing your generation and your beliefs are the problem. That you can have food, shelter, medical care and living expenses paid for by others.
They believe that by either birth or immigration, society owes them something and there's no shortage of politicians that will tap into that...
Much of the West is in Phase 3 and knocking on the door of Phase 4..
I agree with this completely. All the blokes on the internet mocking women, saying men are the Prize and women will forever be single and unhappy (although every study has shown married men and single women are the most content, married women and single men are less pleased with their lot) should join the Army for a year.
Not young men with a job or men honestly trying to get one, just the young men who ridicule women all day on their smartphones and won't deign to work . It's these men that complain women don't want them and the reason is they are not masculine enough. If they did manage to complete the Army training they would return home looking and feeling energised and would have less trouble attracting women.
The Manosphere relies on inactive spiteful men to spout it's damaging narrative.Things would change in a heartbeat if modern young men felt good about themselves, and this is one way to do that.
While there might be some overlap the manosphere and incels are two distinct groups.
The men in the manosphere are getting laid. 😉
The current leader of the UK would be in the third..