Interesting to see the rise of ordinary folks taking to their streets protesting about the Muslim / immigrant invasions.
Syl said
Jul 14 12:04 AM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
That video just showed that the trouble causer and his bodyguards (well one of them ) were trying to provoke and cause trouble with mostly peaceful protestors.
At the end, he claimed they were not the aggressors.... they obviously were.
Some older gentlemen were literally sitting down nothing holding up signs saying "we oppose genocide" They weren't saying or doing anything.. That is the very definition of peaceful protest and the guy making the video tried to bait them calling them" terrorists" and "self hating westerners" When that didn't work he put his hands on a woman to their right and she told them to stop. The police ushered them on.
How is someone peacefully protesting ,a terrorist? The way those gentleman handled that clown (by ignoring him completely) showed who the real troublemaker was.
If they are peacefully protesting why is Palestine Action now banned as a terrorist organisation. They all got arrested. Odd that none of them are outraged at the slaughter of muslims in other countries, just Gaza.
They were peacefully protesting, and didn't rise to the goading.
Surely everyone with an ounce of humanity is sickened at the violence that is happening against the Palastinians, many of them children.
That doesn't translate to mean people are supporting a terrorist organisation.... the idiot with the video camera knows that, he was just trying to start a riot for his own agenda.
Digger said
Jul 14 9:59 AM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
That video just showed that the trouble causer and his bodyguards (well one of them ) were trying to provoke and cause trouble with mostly peaceful protestors.
At the end, he claimed they were not the aggressors.... they obviously were.
Some older gentlemen were literally sitting down nothing holding up signs saying "we oppose genocide" They weren't saying or doing anything.. That is the very definition of peaceful protest and the guy making the video tried to bait them calling them" terrorists" and "self hating westerners" When that didn't work he put his hands on a woman to their right and she told them to stop. The police ushered them on.
How is someone peacefully protesting ,a terrorist? The way those gentleman handled that clown (by ignoring him completely) showed who the real troublemaker was.
If they are peacefully protesting why is Palestine Action now banned as a terrorist organisation. They all got arrested. Odd that none of them are outraged at the slaughter of muslims in other countries, just Gaza.
They were peacefully protesting, and didn't rise to the goading.
Surely everyone with an ounce of humanity is sickened at the violence that is happening against the Palastinians, many of them children.
That doesn't translate to mean people are supporting a terrorist organisation.... the idiot with the video camera knows that, he was just trying to start a riot for his own agenda.
This kind of protesting has no place in our country. Which is why it's been banned. This lot are holding up the middle finger to our laws. It might seem peaceful but it's inflammatory and antisemitic. And it encourages violence because those who want violence feel they have supporters. Charlie Veitch is well known for winding these idiots up and good for him. I personally can't abide them or what they stand for. This is not about the children of Gaza it's about jew hating. As for them not rising to the goading, they do just that later in the video. It's chickens for KFC. This lot would be the first to get slaughtered if they went to Gaza.
Syl said
Jul 14 10:18 AM, 2025
And since we wrote the last couple of posts, at least 10 desperate people, 6 of them children have been killed in Gaza queueing for water. Kids like yours and mine. The Israelis admit their 'error'....the latest of many. Here, people can and should be allowed to peacefully demonstrate, especially when war crimes are being committed.
In the first video the demonstration was inciting violence...in the second video, it was not.
"At least six children have been killed after an Israeli missile strike malfunctioned and landed on a crowd of people queuing for water, it has been claimed.
The strike, which killed a total of 10 people and injured 17 others, hit a water distribution point in the Nuseirat refugee camp according to Gazan officials.
Witnesses said a drone fired a missile at people who were filling up their jerry cans next to a water tanker.
However, Israel said the missile had been intended for an Islamic Jihad militant in the area but a malfunction caused it to fall 'dozens of metres from the target'".
That video just showed that the trouble causer and his bodyguards (well one of them ) were trying to provoke and cause trouble with mostly peaceful protestors.
At the end, he claimed they were not the aggressors.... they obviously were.
Some older gentlemen were literally sitting down nothing holding up signs saying "we oppose genocide" They weren't saying or doing anything.. That is the very definition of peaceful protest and the guy making the video tried to bait them calling them" terrorists" and "self hating westerners" When that didn't work he put his hands on a woman to their right and she told them to stop. The police ushered them on.
How is someone peacefully protesting ,a terrorist? The way those gentleman handled that clown (by ignoring him completely) showed who the real troublemaker was.
If they are peacefully protesting why is Palestine Action now banned as a terrorist organisation. They all got arrested. Odd that none of them are outraged at the slaughter of muslims in other countries, just Gaza.
They were peacefully protesting, and didn't rise to the goading.
Surely everyone with an ounce of humanity is sickened at the violence that is happening against the Palastinians, many of them children.
That doesn't translate to mean people are supporting a terrorist organisation.... the idiot with the video camera knows that, he was just trying to start a riot for his own agenda.
And on the subject of the slaughter of Gazans, you'll find Hamas has a big hand in that.
Hamas forces also abducted, tortured or attacked members and supporters of Fatah, their main rival political organization within Gaza, including former members of the Palestinian Authority security forces. Not a single person has been held accountable for the crimes committed by Hamas forces against Palestinians but you won't see any protests against Hamas, will you?
Palestinians have grown increasingly desperate to find whatever food remains. Back in May this year, thousands of people stormed a UN facility and multiple warehouses across Gaza City looking for remnants of meals, such as flour or canned food, according to a journalist who witnessed one such incident. Hamas shot them.
According to the international Committee to Protect Journalists, last year journalists came under pressure from Palestinian authorities in Gaza. On 8 July, Amin Abed, a prominent critic of Hamas, was assaulted in Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza by masked armed men whom he identified as Hamas affiliates. He required hospitalization for multiple fractures. In November and December, nine journalists were attacked or otherwise prevented from reporting.
On 26 September, Hamas security forces killed aid worker Islam Hijazi in Khan Younis in central Gaza by firing 90 bullets at her car.
Hamas don't want the world to know the truth of what is happening in Gaza. What they do want is the utter annihilation of Israel. If Israel ever falls, Islamists will turn their eyes to the rest of us.
So, this bunch of fools who think they're doing righteous pious and 'peaceful' protesting, in reality seem to know fuck all about what's really happening and are supporting Hamas by default. And they're nearly all of the same ilk, either retired or jobless or idle rich. Morons with more time and money on their hands than sense. Imagine being Jewish and having to walk through this mob waving and thrusting those banners in your face. I'd respect them more if they got off their privileged arses and went off to Gaza to try to do so real good.
Nobody wants to see innocent people killed in either Gaza or Israel. Both sides are guilty of civilian deaths. But this is what happens in a war.
Syl said
Jul 14 10:52 AM, 2025
They are not supporting Hamas, they are against the indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinian civilians by the Israeli authorities.
Magica said
Jul 14 12:23 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
They are not supporting Hamas, they are against the indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinian civilians by the Israeli authorities.
Over the years Israel has pushed.the Palestinians off their land.
Netanyahu won't be happy until they are all exterminated. It's appalling!
Digger said
Jul 14 2:45 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
They are not supporting Hamas, they are against the indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinian civilians by the Israeli authorities.
I disagree. Because neither are they condemning Hamas.
The term 'genocide' is used to mean acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.
Israel has the firepower to totally wipe every single person living in Gaza off the map - indiscriminately. But it never has. It has 2 million Palestinians living and working in their country all of them offered citizenship and all with the right to vote. If they were hell bent on genocide, they'd have killed the lot of them which is exactly what Hamas would and will do to the Israelis if they had the means. Let's not forget that many Palestinian civilians rode in on the back of Hamas when they perpetrated the Oct 7th massacre, and joined in the violence. Even Egypt have built walls and barriers against Gaza. What does that tell you?
In 2021, the Israeli government approved a $9 billion, five year plan to boost employment, improve health care services and housing and develop infrastructure among other goals to help close the socio economic gap the Arabs living in Israel felt existed. They don't want this war. Neither do the Palestinians. The Islamists, however, won't allow peace.
It's easy to demonize Israel. And it always seems to be countries who's people are at least two generations removed from real war. It's such an emotive subject but the cold hard truth is there are always civilian casualties in war. It may seem indiscriminate but it's merely inevitable. Look to Dresden or Hiroshima or the London Blitz which killed 30,000 people. And unfortunately for Gaza, Israel has superior firepower and technology but only because they've fought long and hard to thwart Hamas weaponry via blockades. In such a tight knit crammed country as Gaza deaths were going to happen because Hamas needs to be stopped. Otherwise, Israel would have been annihilated years ago. I have no doubt that if Hamas had a nuclear bomb they'd drop it on Israel and to hell with what the world or any flag waving fools thought.
It's a very complex situation. But definitely not as simple as Israel are murdering bastards.
Digger said
Jul 14 2:47 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
They are not supporting Hamas, they are against the indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinian civilians by the Israeli authorities.
Over the years Israel has pushed.the Palestinians off their land.
Netanyahu won't be happy until they are all exterminated. It's appalling!
And yet you are on here talking about how much you fear Islam will eventually take over the UK and exterminate us? You don't think Israel feels the same?
Magica said
Jul 14 3:09 PM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
They are not supporting Hamas, they are against the indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinian civilians by the Israeli authorities.
Over the years Israel has pushed.the Palestinians off their land.
Netanyahu won't be happy until they are all exterminated. It's appalling!
And yet you are on here talking about how much you fear Islam will eventually take over the UK and exterminate us? You don't think Israel feels the same?
No because Israel stole their country. it was an Islamic country first,.not jewish. I don't want Islam here, because this is our christian country. Completely different things.
Israel wants to terminate the people who.lived there first.
Maddog said
Jul 14 3:21 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
They are not supporting Hamas, they are against the indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinian civilians by the Israeli authorities.
Over the years Israel has pushed.the Palestinians off their land.
Netanyahu won't be happy until they are all exterminated. It's appalling!
And yet you are on here talking about how much you fear Islam will eventually take over the UK and exterminate us? You don't think Israel feels the same?
No because Israel stole their country. it was an Islamic country first,.not jewish. I don't want Islam here, because this is our christian country. Completely different things.
Israel wants to terminate the people who.lived there first.
Well technically, it was British territory before if was Israel..
That region is home to all three Abrahamic religions. Which one should be controlled by the oldest of the three?.
Digger said
Jul 14 3:37 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
They are not supporting Hamas, they are against the indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinian civilians by the Israeli authorities.
Over the years Israel has pushed.the Palestinians off their land.
Netanyahu won't be happy until they are all exterminated. It's appalling!
And yet you are on here talking about how much you fear Islam will eventually take over the UK and exterminate us? You don't think Israel feels the same?
No because Israel stole their country. it was an Islamic country first,.not jewish. I don't want Islam here, because this is our christian country. Completely different things.
Israel wants to terminate the people who.lived there first.
You mean like we stole the Americas from it's indigenous people? Like we stole land from indigenous populations in Africa to establish agricultural plantations, such as tea farms in Kenya?
Like Australia and New Zealand colonized by Britain, with indigenous populations displaced and their land taken? The list of historical oppression by Britain is as long as your arm.
I don't think we're in a position to pontificate, quite frankly. And lucky for us too, that these countries let it go and haven't tried to relentlessly bomb us or annihilate us. Would you sit there and say, "Well, we stole their land"" while your family are being killed? I mean, that's basically what the IRA atrocities against the UK were all about. Did you think those were justified?
You can take this right back to when the area of Gaza was, for three centuries, predominantly Jewish. Then Egypt took over. Then the Ottoman Empire. And so on and so on.
In the Ottoman period in the 17th century, Gaza became a centre for Jewish mysticism and the birthplace of the biggest modern Jewish messianic movement. The events of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War marked a significant turning point, leading to the evacuation of the Jewish population from Gaza.
Maddog said
Jul 14 3:44 PM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
They are not supporting Hamas, they are against the indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinian civilians by the Israeli authorities.
Over the years Israel has pushed.the Palestinians off their land.
Netanyahu won't be happy until they are all exterminated. It's appalling!
And yet you are on here talking about how much you fear Islam will eventually take over the UK and exterminate us? You don't think Israel feels the same?
No because Israel stole their country. it was an Islamic country first,.not jewish. I don't want Islam here, because this is our christian country. Completely different things.
Israel wants to terminate the people who.lived there first.
You mean like we stole the Americas from it's indigenous people? Like we stole land from indigenous populations in Africa to establish agricultural plantations, such as tea farms in Kenya?
Like Australia and New Zealand colonized by Britain, with indigenous populations displaced and their land taken? The list of historical oppression by Britain is as long as your arm.
I don't think we're in a position to pontificate, quite frankly. And lucky for us too, that these countries let it go and haven't tried to relentlessly bomb us or annihilate us. Would you sit there and say, "Well, we stole their land"" while your family are being killed? I mean, that's basically what the IRA atrocities against the UK were all about. Did you think those were justified?
You can take this right back to when the area of Gaza was, for three centuries, predominantly Jewish. Then Egypt took over. Then the Ottoman Empire. And so on and so on.
In the Ottoman period in the 17th century, Gaza became a centre for Jewish mysticism and the birthplace of the biggest modern Jewish messianic movement. The events of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War marked a significant turning point, leading to the evacuation of the Jewish population from Gaza.
All of this could be solved by making Gaza part.of Egypt and the West Bank part of Jordan.
But that would mean that the existence of Israel is legitimate. That's still unacceptable to many in the region and around the world..
Digger said
Jul 14 3:45 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
They are not supporting Hamas, they are against the indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinian civilians by the Israeli authorities.
Over the years Israel has pushed.the Palestinians off their land.
Netanyahu won't be happy until they are all exterminated. It's appalling!
And yet you are on here talking about how much you fear Islam will eventually take over the UK and exterminate us? You don't think Israel feels the same?
No because Israel stole their country. it was an Islamic country first,.not jewish. I don't want Islam here, because this is our christian country. Completely different things.
Israel wants to terminate the people who.lived there first.
You mean like we stole the Americas from it's indigenous people? Like we stole land from indigenous populations in Africa to establish agricultural plantations, such as tea farms in Kenya?
Like Australia and New Zealand colonized by Britain, with indigenous populations displaced and their land taken? The list of historical oppression by Britain is as long as your arm.
I don't think we're in a position to pontificate, quite frankly. And lucky for us too, that these countries let it go and haven't tried to relentlessly bomb us or annihilate us. Would you sit there and say, "Well, we stole their land"" while your family are being killed? I mean, that's basically what the IRA atrocities against the UK were all about. Did you think those were justified?
You can take this right back to when the area of Gaza was, for three centuries, predominantly Jewish. Then Egypt took over. Then the Ottoman Empire. And so on and so on.
In the Ottoman period in the 17th century, Gaza became a centre for Jewish mysticism and the birthplace of the biggest modern Jewish messianic movement. The events of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War marked a significant turning point, leading to the evacuation of the Jewish population from Gaza.
All of this could be solved by making Gaza part.of Egypt and the West Bank part of Jordan.
But that would mean that the existence of Israel is legitimate. That's still unacceptable to many in the region and around the world..
It's both sad and ironic that muslims and jews share a common ancestry.
Magica said
Jul 14 6:30 PM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
They are not supporting Hamas, they are against the indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinian civilians by the Israeli authorities.
Over the years Israel has pushed.the Palestinians off their land.
Netanyahu won't be happy until they are all exterminated. It's appalling!
And yet you are on here talking about how much you fear Islam will eventually take over the UK and exterminate us? You don't think Israel feels the same?
No because Israel stole their country. it was an Islamic country first,.not jewish. I don't want Islam here, because this is our christian country. Completely different things.
Israel wants to terminate the people who.lived there first.
You mean like we stole the Americas from it's indigenous people? Like we stole land from indigenous populations in Africa to establish agricultural plantations, such as tea farms in Kenya?
Like Australia and New Zealand colonized by Britain, with indigenous populations displaced and their land taken? The list of historical oppression by Britain is as long as your arm.
I don't think we're in a position to pontificate, quite frankly. And lucky for us too, that these countries let it go and haven't tried to relentlessly bomb us or annihilate us. Would you sit there and say, "Well, we stole their land"" while your family are being killed? I mean, that's basically what the IRA atrocities against the UK were all about. Did you think those were justified?
You can take this right back to when the area of Gaza was, for three centuries, predominantly Jewish. Then Egypt took over. Then the Ottoman Empire. And so on and so on.
In the Ottoman period in the 17th century, Gaza became a centre for Jewish mysticism and the birthplace of the biggest modern Jewish messianic movement. The events of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War marked a significant turning point, leading to the evacuation of the Jewish population from Gaza.
All of this could be solved by making Gaza part.of Egypt and the West Bank part of Jordan.
But that would mean that the existence of Israel is legitimate. That's still unacceptable to many in the region and around the world..
It's both sad and ironic that muslims and jews share a common ancestry.
We didn't steal America, Americans government did that.
What about when Romans invaded Britain. The French did, The Vikings? Happens all over.
Difference being they want to push Palatinians out of the land. We colonized, Romans colonized, and so on, but the natives lived side by side after many battles.
Israel wants the whole country. Even Israelis marched against this.o
Its not ok to kill kids,people, in lines for food 😯
-- Edited by Magica on Monday 14th of July 2025 06:37:17 PM
Barksdale said
Jul 14 6:41 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Yes and also how many are claiming for ADHD and Autism for their kids.I
I know someone who is 19 now said has ADHD. Very proud of it aswell. 🙄. Oh and now autism as well a little while ago.
Why wasn't it picked up at school. I don't believe her. I think it's too easy to con doctors now.
Neurodivergent girls tend to be diagnosed later than boys as they are better at masking - learning to give the impression they are neurotypical - than boys whose signs of distress are more obvious (destructive or disruptive behaviour.) Girls are more likely to unravel in secondary school and diagnosis can follow a period of acute distress such as self harming, suicide attempts, refusal to go to school etc. I can tell you with 100% certainty that is a very difficult to game the system when it comes to autism (with ADHD as an additional syptom. ADHD by itself is a little different.) Getting a diagnosis followed by an EHCP is tough and there is a postcode lottery when it comes to provison for need.
The neurotypical world usually never sees the distress of neurodivergent people - the constant rejection, feelings of inferiority, being seen as a burden, weird, a hinderance. They do not see the play dates and birthdays you never get invited to, the dates you never have, the holidays you never take for fear of a meltdown, the social isolation and loneliness.
It honestly doesn't surprise me that your 19 year old acquaintance celebrates her diagnosis. It allows her to feel, I suspect, that she isn't broken but her brain just works differently from other people. I don't know her but I am very happy for her.
Syl said
Jul 14 6:49 PM, 2025
I loved Israel and the people who live there, I would go back tomorrow if times were different. I can bet that the Israeli soldiers, young kids who worked in cafés and restaurants when they were off duty, (I am going back 15 years) are as appalled at the indiscriminate killing of civilians, including thousands of young kids, as many here and around the world are.
Yes, we know wars are bloody and horrendous. When the IRA held a bombing campaign in the UK, did we go over there bombing and murdering innocent people indiscriminately?
No, because even in a war, there are rules. Only tthe errorists don't follow them, presumably Israel does not want to be known as a terrorist country. Since these figures below were released, thousands more civilian casualties have been reported in Gaza.
"March 24(Reuters) - Palestinian health authorities say Israel's ground and air campaign in Gaza which resumed last week has killed more than 50,000 people, with nearly a third of the dead under 18."
Yes and also how many are claiming for ADHD and Autism for their kids.I
I know someone who is 19 now said has ADHD. Very proud of it aswell. 🙄. Oh and now autism as well a little while ago.
Why wasn't it picked up at school. I don't believe her. I think it's too easy to con doctors now.
Neurodivergent girls tend to be diagnosed later than boys as they are better at masking - learning to give the impression they are neurotypical - than boys whose signs of distress are more obvious (destructive or disruptive behaviour.) Girls are more likely to unravel in secondary school and diagnosis can follow a period of acute distress such as self harming, suicide attempts, refusal to go to school etc. I can tell you with 100% certainty that is a very difficult to game the system when it comes to autism (with ADHD as an additional syptom. ADHD by itself is a little different.) Getting a diagnosis followed by an EHCP is tough and there is a postcode lottery when it comes to provison for need.
The neurotypical world usually never sees the distress of neurodivergent people - the constant rejection, feelings of inferiority, being seen as a burden, weird, a hinderance. They do not see the play dates and birthdays you never get invited to, the dates you never have, the holidays you never take for fear of a meltdown, the social isolation and loneliness.
It honestly doesn't surprise me that your 19 year old acquaintance celebrates her diagnosis. It allows her to feel, I suspect, that she isn't broken but her brain just works differently from other people. I don't know her but I am very happy for her.
Thanks for explaining that Barks.
Magica said
Jul 14 8:13 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
I loved Israel and the people who live there, I would go back tomorrow if times were different. I can bet that the Israeli soldiers, young kids who worked in cafés and restaurants when they were off duty, (I am going back 15 years) are as appalled at the indiscriminate killing of civilians, including thousands of young kids, as many here and around the world are.
Yes, we know wars are bloody and horrendous. When the IRA held a bombing campaign in the UK, did we go over there bombing and murdering innocent people indiscriminately?
No, because even in a war, there are rules. Only tthe errorists don't follow them, presumably Israel does not want to be known as a terrorist country. Since these figures below were released, thousands more civilian casualties have been reported in Gaza.
"March 24(Reuters) - Palestinian health authorities say Israel's ground and air campaign in Gaza which resumed last week has killed more than 50,000 people, with nearly a third of the dead under 18."
Well said Syl. I have nothing against jews, Jesus was one.
I don't like that the constant bombing of civilians. It's not a war.
Maddog said
Jul 14 8:44 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Digger wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
They are not supporting Hamas, they are against the indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinian civilians by the Israeli authorities.
Over the years Israel has pushed.the Palestinians off their land.
Netanyahu won't be happy until they are all exterminated. It's appalling!
And yet you are on here talking about how much you fear Islam will eventually take over the UK and exterminate us? You don't think Israel feels the same?
No because Israel stole their country. it was an Islamic country first,.not jewish. I don't want Islam here, because this is our christian country. Completely different things.
Israel wants to terminate the people who.lived there first.
You mean like we stole the Americas from it's indigenous people? Like we stole land from indigenous populations in Africa to establish agricultural plantations, such as tea farms in Kenya?
Like Australia and New Zealand colonized by Britain, with indigenous populations displaced and their land taken? The list of historical oppression by Britain is as long as your arm.
I don't think we're in a position to pontificate, quite frankly. And lucky for us too, that these countries let it go and haven't tried to relentlessly bomb us or annihilate us. Would you sit there and say, "Well, we stole their land"" while your family are being killed? I mean, that's basically what the IRA atrocities against the UK were all about. Did you think those were justified?
You can take this right back to when the area of Gaza was, for three centuries, predominantly Jewish. Then Egypt took over. Then the Ottoman Empire. And so on and so on.
In the Ottoman period in the 17th century, Gaza became a centre for Jewish mysticism and the birthplace of the biggest modern Jewish messianic movement. The events of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War marked a significant turning point, leading to the evacuation of the Jewish population from Gaza.
All of this could be solved by making Gaza part.of Egypt and the West Bank part of Jordan.
But that would mean that the existence of Israel is legitimate. That's still unacceptable to many in the region and around the world..
It's both sad and ironic that muslims and jews share a common ancestry.
We didn't steal America, Americans government did that.
What about when Romans invaded Britain. The French did, The Vikings? Happens all over.
Difference being they want to push Palatinians out of the land. We colonized, Romans colonized, and so on, but the natives lived side by side after many battles.
Israel wants the whole country. Even Israelis marched against this.o
Its not ok to kill kids,people, in lines for food 😯
-- Edited by Magica on Monday 14th of July 2025 06:37:17 PM
We were a British territory for 150 years. We didn't do anything anyone else didn't do over here. We just carried on the traditions of the UK and Europe..
Interesting to see the rise of ordinary folks taking to their streets protesting about the Muslim / immigrant invasions.
They were peacefully protesting, and didn't rise to the goading.
Surely everyone with an ounce of humanity is sickened at the violence that is happening against the Palastinians, many of them children.
That doesn't translate to mean people are supporting a terrorist organisation.... the idiot with the video camera knows that, he was just trying to start a riot for his own agenda.
This kind of protesting has no place in our country. Which is why it's been banned. This lot are holding up the middle finger to our laws. It might seem peaceful but it's inflammatory and antisemitic. And it encourages violence because those who want violence feel they have supporters. Charlie Veitch is well known for winding these idiots up and good for him. I personally can't abide them or what they stand for. This is not about the children of Gaza it's about jew hating. As for them not rising to the goading, they do just that later in the video. It's chickens for KFC. This lot would be the first to get slaughtered if they went to Gaza.
And since we wrote the last couple of posts, at least 10 desperate people, 6 of them children have been killed in Gaza queueing for water. Kids like yours and mine. The Israelis admit their 'error'....the latest of many.
Here, people can and should be allowed to peacefully demonstrate, especially when war crimes are being committed.
In the first video the demonstration was inciting violence...in the second video, it was not.
"At least six children have been killed after an Israeli missile strike malfunctioned and landed on a crowd of people queuing for water, it has been claimed.
The strike, which killed a total of 10 people and injured 17 others, hit a water distribution point in the Nuseirat refugee camp according to Gazan officials.
Witnesses said a drone fired a missile at people who were filling up their jerry cans next to a water tanker.
However, Israel said the missile had been intended for an Islamic Jihad militant in the area but a malfunction caused it to fall 'dozens of metres from the target'".
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14901955/Six-children-dead-Israeli-missile-error.html
And on the subject of the slaughter of Gazans, you'll find Hamas has a big hand in that.
Hamas forces also abducted, tortured or attacked members and supporters of Fatah, their main rival political organization within Gaza, including former members of the Palestinian Authority security forces. Not a single person has been held accountable for the crimes committed by Hamas forces against Palestinians but you won't see any protests against Hamas, will you?
Palestinians have grown increasingly desperate to find whatever food remains. Back in May this year, thousands of people stormed a UN facility and multiple warehouses across Gaza City looking for remnants of meals, such as flour or canned food, according to a journalist who witnessed one such incident. Hamas shot them.
According to the international Committee to Protect Journalists, last year journalists came under pressure from Palestinian authorities in Gaza. On 8 July, Amin Abed, a prominent critic of Hamas, was assaulted in Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza by masked armed men whom he identified as Hamas affiliates. He required hospitalization for multiple fractures. In November and December, nine journalists were attacked or otherwise prevented from reporting.
On 26 September, Hamas security forces killed aid worker Islam Hijazi in Khan Younis in central Gaza by firing 90 bullets at her car.
Hamas don't want the world to know the truth of what is happening in Gaza. What they do want is the utter annihilation of Israel. If Israel ever falls, Islamists will turn their eyes to the rest of us.
So, this bunch of fools who think they're doing righteous pious and 'peaceful' protesting, in reality seem to know fuck all about what's really happening and are supporting Hamas by default. And they're nearly all of the same ilk, either retired or jobless or idle rich. Morons with more time and money on their hands than sense. Imagine being Jewish and having to walk through this mob waving and thrusting those banners in your face. I'd respect them more if they got off their privileged arses and went off to Gaza to try to do so real good.
Nobody wants to see innocent people killed in either Gaza or Israel. Both sides are guilty of civilian deaths. But this is what happens in a war.
Over the years Israel has pushed.the Palestinians off their land.
Netanyahu won't be happy until they are all exterminated. It's appalling!
I disagree. Because neither are they condemning Hamas.
The term 'genocide' is used to mean acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.
Israel has the firepower to totally wipe every single person living in Gaza off the map - indiscriminately. But it never has. It has 2 million Palestinians living and working in their country all of them offered citizenship and all with the right to vote. If they were hell bent on genocide, they'd have killed the lot of them which is exactly what Hamas would and will do to the Israelis if they had the means. Let's not forget that many Palestinian civilians rode in on the back of Hamas when they perpetrated the Oct 7th massacre, and joined in the violence. Even Egypt have built walls and barriers against Gaza. What does that tell you?
In 2021, the Israeli government approved a $9 billion, five year plan to boost employment, improve health care services and housing and develop infrastructure among other goals to help close the socio economic gap the Arabs living in Israel felt existed. They don't want this war. Neither do the Palestinians. The Islamists, however, won't allow peace.
It's easy to demonize Israel. And it always seems to be countries who's people are at least two generations removed from real war. It's such an emotive subject but the cold hard truth is there are always civilian casualties in war. It may seem indiscriminate but it's merely inevitable. Look to Dresden or Hiroshima or the London Blitz which killed 30,000 people. And unfortunately for Gaza, Israel has superior firepower and technology but only because they've fought long and hard to thwart Hamas weaponry via blockades. In such a tight knit crammed country as Gaza deaths were going to happen because Hamas needs to be stopped. Otherwise, Israel would have been annihilated years ago. I have no doubt that if Hamas had a nuclear bomb they'd drop it on Israel and to hell with what the world or any flag waving fools thought.
It's a very complex situation. But definitely not as simple as Israel are murdering bastards.
And yet you are on here talking about how much you fear Islam will eventually take over the UK and exterminate us? You don't think Israel feels the same?
No because Israel stole their country. it was an Islamic country first,.not jewish. I don't want Islam here, because this is our christian country. Completely different things.
Israel wants to terminate the people who.lived there first.
Well technically, it was British territory before if was Israel..
That region is home to all three Abrahamic religions. Which one should be controlled by the oldest of the three?.
You mean like we stole the Americas from it's indigenous people? Like we stole land from indigenous populations in Africa to establish agricultural plantations, such as tea farms in Kenya?
Like Australia and New Zealand colonized by Britain, with indigenous populations displaced and their land taken? The list of historical oppression by Britain is as long as your arm.
I don't think we're in a position to pontificate, quite frankly. And lucky for us too, that these countries let it go and haven't tried to relentlessly bomb us or annihilate us. Would you sit there and say, "Well, we stole their land"" while your family are being killed? I mean, that's basically what the IRA atrocities against the UK were all about. Did you think those were justified?
You can take this right back to when the area of Gaza was, for three centuries, predominantly Jewish. Then Egypt took over. Then the Ottoman Empire. And so on and so on.
In the Ottoman period in the 17th century, Gaza became a centre for Jewish mysticism and the birthplace of the biggest modern Jewish messianic movement. The events of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War marked a significant turning point, leading to the evacuation of the Jewish population from Gaza.
All of this could be solved by making Gaza part.of Egypt and the West Bank part of Jordan.
But that would mean that the existence of Israel is legitimate. That's still unacceptable to many in the region and around the world..
It's both sad and ironic that muslims and jews share a common ancestry.
We didn't steal America, Americans government did that.
What about when Romans invaded Britain. The French did, The Vikings? Happens all over.
Difference being they want to push Palatinians out of the land. We colonized, Romans colonized, and so on, but the natives lived side by side after many battles.
Israel wants the whole country. Even Israelis marched against this.o
Its not ok to kill kids,people, in lines for food 😯
-- Edited by Magica on Monday 14th of July 2025 06:37:17 PM
Neurodivergent girls tend to be diagnosed later than boys as they are better at masking - learning to give the impression they are neurotypical - than boys whose signs of distress are more obvious (destructive or disruptive behaviour.) Girls are more likely to unravel in secondary school and diagnosis can follow a period of acute distress such as self harming, suicide attempts, refusal to go to school etc. I can tell you with 100% certainty that is a very difficult to game the system when it comes to autism (with ADHD as an additional syptom. ADHD by itself is a little different.) Getting a diagnosis followed by an EHCP is tough and there is a postcode lottery when it comes to provison for need.
The neurotypical world usually never sees the distress of neurodivergent people - the constant rejection, feelings of inferiority, being seen as a burden, weird, a hinderance. They do not see the play dates and birthdays you never get invited to, the dates you never have, the holidays you never take for fear of a meltdown, the social isolation and loneliness.
It honestly doesn't surprise me that your 19 year old acquaintance celebrates her diagnosis. It allows her to feel, I suspect, that she isn't broken but her brain just works differently from other people. I don't know her but I am very happy for her.
I loved Israel and the people who live there, I would go back tomorrow if times were different.
I can bet that the Israeli soldiers, young kids who worked in cafés and restaurants when they were off duty, (I am going back 15 years) are as appalled at the indiscriminate killing of civilians, including thousands of young kids, as many here and around the world are.
Yes, we know wars are bloody and horrendous. When the IRA held a bombing campaign in the UK, did we go over there bombing and murdering innocent people indiscriminately?
No, because even in a war, there are rules. Only tthe errorists don't follow them, presumably Israel does not want to be known as a terrorist country.
Since these figures below were released, thousands more civilian casualties have been reported in Gaza.
"March 24(Reuters) - Palestinian health authorities say Israel's ground and air campaign in Gaza which resumed last week has killed more than 50,000 people, with nearly a third of the dead under 18."
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-many-palestinians-has-israels-gaza-offensive-killed-2025-01-15/
Thanks for explaining that Barks.
Well said Syl. I have nothing against jews, Jesus was one.
I don't like that the constant bombing of civilians. It's not a war.
We were a British territory for 150 years. We didn't do anything anyone else didn't do over here. We just carried on the traditions of the UK and Europe..
Now let's discuss Canada..😉