Watching America at the moment is like watching a slow motion car crash. Horrifying but hypnotic in equal measure.
As if it wasn’t outrageous enough to fire the top-flight economist, with a decades-long career in public service, because her low jobs report numbers enraged him! Now he’s focusing on the Smithsonian and other museums, to conduct a ‘review‘ of their materials and how they operate.
And just like that, American history will be selectively filtered/erased, and especially any exhibit/record that portrays him in a negative light. Museums are about to be ordered to only show exhibits that reflect his version of what he calls ‘American exceptionalism’.
George Orwell, 1984 ~ “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
Fluffy said
Aug 13 6:33 PM, 2025
Vam wrote:
Barksdale wrote:
Watching America at the moment is like watching a slow motion car crash. Horrifying but hypnotic in equal measure.
As if it wasn’t outrageous enough to fire the top-flight economist, with a decades-long career in public service, because her low jobs report numbers enraged him! Now he’s focusing on the Smithsonian and other museums, to conduct a ‘review‘ of their materials and how they operate.
And just like that, American history will be selectively filtered/erased, and especially any exhibit/record that portrays him in a negative light. Museums are about to be ordered to only show exhibits that reflect his version of what he calls ‘American exceptionalism’.
George Orwell, 1984 ~ “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
Wow, that Orwell quote packs a punch the way America is at the moment.
I also wonder how many people really regret voting for Trump. The price of accommodation and food has sky rocketed. There are countless YouTube videos with people saying they simply can't afford to make ends meet, yet they work full time 6 day weeks.
But Trump would have everybody believe America is the most prosperous it has ever been..
-- Edited by Fluffy on Wednesday 13th of August 2025 06:40:01 PM
Fluffy said
Aug 13 6:38 PM, 2025
Why does Trump blame the Ukraine President for Russia invading them?? He really is stark raving mad. Putin wants to divide Europe and America, he is so happy to be welcomed on American soil and seeing Trump.
Zelenskyy must want to punch the pair of them watching these two chum up not knowing what's going on whilst it's HIS country being bombed. I don't trust Putin one bit (although that goes without saying) and he will find a way to flatter or charm Trump.for his aims.
-- Edited by Fluffy on Wednesday 13th of August 2025 07:02:40 PM
Fluffy said
Aug 13 7:00 PM, 2025
Barksdale wrote:
Syl wrote:
Why not simply make a counter ad with a black big arsed woman, wearing a different brand of tight fitting jeans, and point out she has good genes too?
Beyonce already fronts a campaign for Levis from 2024.
The reason some people got their knickers in a twist about the Sydney Sweeney ad is that that Nazis thought blue eyed, blond haired, white skinned Aryans were the master race and superior on a genetic level.
So, the ad featuring Sydney Sweeney saying how good her genes were made some people put 2 and 2 together to make 5 and shout "Nazi!"
Incidentally if we ever needed a lesson which shows that beauty standards are not objective but socially conditioned the junk in the trunk look being highly desirable must be it. We went from "does my bum look big in this" to "does my bum look small in this" in only a few decades.
This may not be a popular take but I disagree. Some black ladies may have genuinely thought so because the words hit differently but some white women just saw an opportunity to aim their wrath at an easy target. Some women just don't like ladies who appeal to the male gaze and use their sexuality the way Sweeney does.
But since they can't just have a go at her for being a hot woman I feel the Nazi stuff gave ladies a socially acceptable way to have a go at her. I don't believe white women are so daft to think the advert was honestly "Nazi propaganda" This is why I'm not on social media except YouTube because it just seems like eternal judgement to me, aimed at women in particular.
Are the moral majority unhappy about the David Beckham adverts where he is walking around naked after his shower? Women certainly aren't! There are no complaints from me either but I digress. If a woman was portrayed like that in an advert women would be saying it was too sexual and not suitable for children to see etc etc..But there won't be an advert with a woman using her sexuality to that degree..Because advertisers know there is a double standard and female viewers get threatened in a way men don't.
Syl said
Aug 13 7:17 PM, 2025
What I don't understand about all the furore about Sydney Sweeney ad is...why is the model/actress getting all the stick?
Surely she is just the girl in the ad, who looks good promoting the jeans.
If anyone wants to get all in a lather about the 'good genes' line, should they not be complaining to the jeans company who commissioned the advert?
Having said that, I bet SS is laughing all the way to the bank now, I, for one, had never heard of her before her name cropped up on here.
Fluffy said
Aug 13 8:32 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
What I don't understand about all the furore about Sydney Sweeney ad is...why is the model/actress getting all the stick? Surely she is just the girl in the ad, who looks good promoting the jeans.
If anyone wants to get all in a lather about the 'good genes' line, should they not be complaining to the jeans company who commissioned the advert?
Having said that, I bet SS is laughing all the way to the bank now, I, for one, had never heard of her before her name cropped up on here.
That's my point Syl, the hate and vitriol is all aimed at the actress because she conforms to a socially conventional standard of beauty. Which is totally unfair because Beyonce (who is ridiculously attractive) always uses her sexuality including in her Levi's adverts.
II didn't know much about her except she also sells a shower gel for men which er, supposedly has her bath water in it. It doesnt (I hope!! ) but this is the reason she is getting grief, because she has used her sexuality for profit before. She also plays promiscuous women in her acting roles. One is a very popular American series called "Euphoria" for Gen Z and I knew of it but never watched it.
This is why I think some (but not all) of her detractors are just jumping on.the bandwagon because they don't like her anyway. If that's their opinion though they should say the real reason ,that they don't "approve " of her(and are maybe a little jealous). But if course no young woman wants to admit they are jealous so they are joining in.insulting her pretending they think she is a racist.
I have seen people shouting and hurling abuse at her, one person even spitting at her as she dashed into one event flanked by bodyguards. It's not on.
Syl said
Aug 13 10:54 PM, 2025
It seems to be a huge fuss about nothing.
When something like this grabs the news and escalates, I wonder if something unconnected is happening beh8nd the scenes, and this is just a del8berate distraction.
Either that, or some people are so bored they are looking for things to be offended by.
And just like that, American history will be selectively filtered/erased, and especially any exhibit/record that portrays him in a negative light. Museums are about to be ordered to only show exhibits that reflect his version of what he calls ‘American exceptionalism’.
George Orwell, 1984 ~ “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
Wow, that Orwell quote packs a punch the way America is at the moment.
I also wonder how many people really regret voting for Trump. The price of accommodation and food has sky rocketed. There are countless YouTube videos with people saying they simply can't afford to make ends meet, yet they work full time 6 day weeks.
But Trump would have everybody believe America is the most prosperous it has ever been..
-- Edited by Fluffy on Wednesday 13th of August 2025 06:40:01 PM
Why does Trump blame the Ukraine President for Russia invading them??
He really is stark raving mad.
Putin wants to divide Europe and America, he is so happy to be welcomed on American soil and seeing Trump.
Zelenskyy must want to punch the pair of them watching these two chum up not knowing what's going on whilst it's HIS country being bombed. I don't trust Putin one bit (although that goes without saying) and he will find a way to flatter or charm Trump.for his aims.
-- Edited by Fluffy on Wednesday 13th of August 2025 07:02:40 PM
This may not be a popular take but I disagree. Some black ladies may have genuinely thought so because the words hit differently but some white women just saw an opportunity to aim their wrath at an easy target. Some women just don't like ladies who appeal to the male gaze and use their sexuality the way Sweeney does.
But since they can't just have a go at her for being a hot woman I feel the Nazi stuff gave ladies a socially acceptable way to have a go at her. I don't believe white women are so daft to think the advert was honestly "Nazi propaganda"
This is why I'm not on social media except YouTube because it just seems like eternal judgement to me, aimed at women in particular.
Are the moral majority unhappy about the David Beckham adverts where he is walking around naked after his shower?
Women certainly aren't! There are no complaints from me either but I digress. If a woman was portrayed like that in an advert women would be saying it was too sexual and not suitable for children to see etc etc..But there won't be an advert with a woman using her sexuality to that degree..Because advertisers know there is a double standard and female viewers get threatened in a way men don't.
Surely she is just the girl in the ad, who looks good promoting the jeans.
If anyone wants to get all in a lather about the 'good genes' line, should they not be complaining to the jeans company who commissioned the advert?
Having said that, I bet SS is laughing all the way to the bank now, I, for one, had never heard of her before her name cropped up on here.
That's my point Syl, the hate and vitriol is all aimed at the actress because she conforms to a socially conventional standard of beauty. Which is totally unfair because Beyonce (who is ridiculously attractive) always uses her sexuality including in her Levi's adverts.
II didn't know much about her except she also sells a shower gel for men which er, supposedly has her bath water in it. It doesnt (I hope!!
) but this is the reason she is getting grief, because she has used her sexuality for profit before. She also plays promiscuous women in her acting roles. One is a very popular American series called "Euphoria" for Gen Z and I knew of it but never watched it.
This is why I think some (but not all) of her detractors are just jumping on.the bandwagon because they don't like her anyway. If that's their opinion though they should say the real reason ,that they don't "approve " of her(and are maybe a little jealous). But if course no young woman wants to admit they are jealous so they are joining in.insulting her pretending they think she is a racist.
I have seen people shouting and hurling abuse at her, one person even spitting at her
as she dashed into one event flanked by bodyguards. It's not on.
When something like this grabs the news and escalates, I wonder if something unconnected is happening beh8nd the scenes, and this is just a del8berate distraction.
Either that, or some people are so bored they are looking for things to be offended by.