Or alternatively she didn't give them the right info, which is probably more likely. The ethics report might come out before the weekend; if so there's a good chance she'll be gone by Monday.
Vam said
Sep 5 8:41 AM, 2025
Farage is bad news. Very bad news. The fact that trump is his role model, says it all.
But again, I totally get why he‘ll probably be elected.
Anonymous said
Sep 5 9:30 AM, 2025
Magica wrote:
So many politicians are bent, and line their own pockets. I can't stand her, hope she goes.
Nigel is the best of a bad lot, but all we got now, for hope in this country.
-- Edited by Magica on Thursday 4th of September 2025 12:02:56 PM
Good to see that Nigel has called tax-avoiders the 'common enemy' . Great to see him making a stand against it.
Mind you, there's this:
The Reform UK leader diverts money from his prime-time TV show into his company, which means that he paid only 25% corporation tax on profits, instead of 40% income tax
and this:
Farage claimed last year to have “bought a house” in his constituency, but the property is actually owned in the name of his partner, meaning he legally avoided higher-rate stamp duty on the purchase of an additional home .
... Rachel Reeves says she has full confidence in Rayner ...
I had thought that Rachel Reeves was Angela Rayner and Angela Rayner Rachel Reeves. They do look very similar but on close inspection Raynor looks younger than Reeves although according to Wikipedia they are only a year apart in age.
It seems people that have the gift of the gab are equally adept at cheating and corruption as they are in persuading people to vote for them.
Syl said
Sep 5 12:08 PM, 2025
Does anyone else find it in bad taste that Angela Raynor has brought her disabled son into the public interview when trying to defend her latest 'oversight'?
For a woman who likes to think she leaves her family out of the headlines, it's not the first time she has brought them up publicly when people have accused her (nothing to do with them) of acting inappropriately.
Syl said
Sep 5 12:31 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
“Peterborough council leader resigns over 'white trash' message”
“Peterborough City Council's Labour leader Dennis Jones has resigned from the party and intends to step down from his role after he appeared to refer to grooming gang victims as "poor white trash from Rotherham" in a message to another councillor.” https://x.com/Suffragent_/status/1963610722497106000/photo/1
Girls as young as 12 and 13, groomed and raped by men old enough to be their grandads....yet in his opinion, they are the trash.
Well he is right to stand down and is a disgusting waste of space. However men of all ethnicities hurt women and children in.Britain. Stats show you are correct, "Gangs' are mostly of Pakistani origin who are born in Britain. But the man most likely to abuse overall (alone whether it be his his own daughter or another minor of either gender) is white. Most sexual offenders in.The UK are white British males.
There is a bloke in Reform arrested for beating up his wife and Farage didn't want that info to be released to the public. I wouldn't want a man like that running the country but I accept that's just my personal view.
I hope the Reform member was sacked but I have no idea, he would certainly still be a member if the public were not privy to the truth.
-- Edited by Fluffy on Thursday 4th of September 2025 09:56:57 PM
Fluffy, the highlighted text in your post is correct, but when you look at the % of white British population to the rest of the population here, it's not surprising.
May 21, 2024 — According to the 2021 Census, 81.7% of the population of England and Wales was white, 9.3% Asian, 4.0% black, 2.9% mixed and 2.1% from other ethnic groups.
Anonymous said
Sep 5 12:32 PM, 2025
Angela Rayner has resigned and given the circumstances she had to. The next question is will she be arrested and charged with fraud / tax evasion.
-- Edited by Syl on Friday 5th of September 2025 12:36:42 PM
Anonymous said
Sep 5 1:13 PM, 2025
I didn't know really anything about Angela Rayner until this news broke (tax evasion and other concerns). Checking her Wikipedia page today and learning about her background she would have been the type of person I could connect with. However given the issues surrounding the current tax evasion (and other concerns) there was clearly some explanation required to explain how she went from an impoverished background to the wealth she has today that is estimated at £4 million.
Separate to this is her competency to do the job her offices required of her (Deputy Leader plus Secretary for Housing) - since resigned. Given her high profile positions it would be worth all members of the Cabinet be equally scrutinized followed by all the members of Parliament and all the members of the House of Lords. After that we should look at regional and local government etc etc.
Red Okktober said
Sep 5 1:21 PM, 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Angela Rayner has resigned and given the circumstances she had to. The next question is will she be arrested and charged with fraud / tax evasion.
Highly unlikely Anon. Supporters have been saying that she has 'integrity' and Starmer wrote her a farewell letter saying she was 'right' to refer herself to the independent advisor and 'right' to act on his conlusion.
Credit to her if she referred herself before it was public knowledge, but she didn't do that - she only referred herself once it was all over the front pages, and it was an act of damage limitation and nothing to do with integrity or being honest. The idiot PM seems to think she had a choice not to resign, and has done the right thing by doing it.
The law firm she accused of giving her wrong tax advice says they didn't give her any tax advice at all. A blatant lie by Rayner that isn't get as much attention as it should be.
Her circumstances aren't that 'complex', as she claims they are, and anyone in her situation can google and find out they have to pay the higher stamp duty.
It's funny how these 'honest mistakes' always seem to make the person who made them much better off than they would have been otherwise.
Magica said
Sep 5 4:03 PM, 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Angela Rayner has resigned and given the circumstances she had to. The next question is will she be arrested and charged with fraud / tax evasion.
Hope so. I hate the two faced. Cow! Glad she's gone
Magica said
Sep 5 4:06 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Does anyone else find it in bad taste that Angela Raynor has brought her disabled son into the public interview when trying to defend her latest 'oversight'?
For a woman who likes to think she leaves her family out of the headlines, it's not the first time she has brought them up publicly when people have accused her (nothing to do with them) of acting inappropriately.
Using her son with shallow tears.is beyond the pale! Who uses their disabled son for an excuse!
Its all caught up with her! Nasty woman, go on, go shoooo!
Red Okktober said
Sep 5 4:40 PM, 2025
Lammy is the new deputy PM - what a double act him and Starmer will be - talk about Dumb and Dumber!
Best news of the day is that we will no longer have to listen to the completely useless Yvette Cooper making statements about immigration, as she has been moved on as well.
One bit of good news for Rayner, is that she will no longer have to face the humiliation when the 1.5 million new homes she 'pledged' comes up miles short.
Anonymous said
Sep 5 5:21 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Does anyone else find it in bad taste that Angela Raynor has brought her disabled son into the public interview when trying to defend her latest 'oversight'?
For a woman who likes to think she leaves her family out of the headlines, it's not the first time she has brought them up publicly when people have accused her (nothing to do with them) of acting inappropriately.
Playing the victim when you’re in a jam, many fall for the sick kid angle (no disrespect intended towards the child here).
She played the system and was caught out. Plenty claiming she had “integrity” - She praised the NHS on one hand and sued them with the other; called for resignations for tax avoiders yet found to have sticky fingers herself; backstabbed a firm who stood their ground and denied her claims of wrong advice. I’m just naffed off she wasn’t sacked, I feel her and Starmer hoped it would eventually be buried but her own greed and stupidity put the kibosh on that. Apparently she’ll receive something in the region of £16 thou on resignation but nowt on being sacked (according to a few posts I’ve read, no idea if that’s true).
Questions are now being asked about her home (the supposed ”primary” home) being over valued - an adapted home that would surely lessen interest.
That’s a handsome loss of salary for “saving” a few (relatively) thousand £££, still, brace yourself for perhaps a book, the after-dinner speech circuit, Strictly or even IACGMOOH.
Raynor is what you get when you cross classless with ego. She was bound to slip up eventually.
Fluffy said
Sep 6 9:13 AM, 2025
Vam wrote:
Farage is bad news. Very bad news. The fact that trump is his role model, says it all.
But again, I totally get why he‘ll probably be elected.
Hello Vam I thanked you for your kind words on the AI thread where I spoke at length about....Chinese tanks. I hope all is well with you.
I agree with you if course. You will be aware he was totally humiliated in America by democrats for stating he admires Putin and the like.
What I don't understand is as the Anon pointed out below your original post Farage has also used loopholes to avoid paying the correct stamp duty. Why is no body in the media outraged about that??
As for him being happy to have a man who beat up his girlfriend being a member of Reform and then citing he wants to protect "women and children" ..If ANYONE else in the public eye behaved like this they would be persona non grata.
He even wants to pay Afghanistan to take back women and children refugees ..so his concern for women doesn't stretch too far them because I think we all know the fate of those poor women. Vam, it honestly feels to me like the world has gone mad.
Anonymous said
Sep 6 9:34 AM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
This is a police chief in the UK who will arrest you for memes no kidding.
Do tell us more - who did she arrest and what for?
Fluffy said
Sep 6 9:42 AM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Raynor is what you get when you cross classless with ego. She was bound to slip up eventually.
Digs, I genuinely don't feel it's evident she has less class than the rest of the rabble and many politicians have equally big ego's too but I respect your take none the less.
I do concede she had to go. If a Tory MP did what she had I would want them to resign so it would be hypocritical for me to say it should in some unique way be different for her. But Farage has used spousal loopholes to avoid paying the stamp duty he should and goes on benefiting from this. I suppose the difference is it is a "legal" loophole, but ethically it stinks, just like millionaires(of which Farage is one) putting their fortunes in off shore accounts to avoid paying the standard tax .
You seem to know a fair bit about actual statutes and law. If Farage was voted to be PM and removed us from the European court of human rights (which he states is outdated ) do you know what that would entail? My main concern is how would the rest of our human rights be protected.
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Or alternatively she didn't give them the right info, which is probably more likely. The ethics report might come out before the weekend; if so there's a good chance she'll be gone by Monday.
Farage is bad news. Very bad news. The fact that trump is his role model, says it all.
But again, I totally get why he‘ll probably be elected.
Good to see that Nigel has called tax-avoiders the 'common enemy' . Great to see him making a stand against it.
Mind you, there's this:
The Reform UK leader diverts money from his prime-time TV show into his company, which means that he paid only 25% corporation tax on profits, instead of 40% income tax
and this:
Farage claimed last year to have “bought a house” in his constituency, but the property is actually owned in the name of his partner, meaning he legally avoided higher-rate stamp duty on the purchase of an additional home .
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings
I had thought that Rachel Reeves was Angela Rayner and Angela Rayner Rachel Reeves. They do look very similar but on close inspection Raynor looks younger than Reeves although according to Wikipedia they are only a year apart in age.
It seems people that have the gift of the gab are equally adept at cheating and corruption as they are in persuading people to vote for them.
For a woman who likes to think she leaves her family out of the headlines, it's not the first time she has brought them up publicly when people have accused her (nothing to do with them) of acting inappropriately.
Fluffy, the highlighted text in your post is correct, but when you look at the % of white British population to the rest of the population here, it's not surprising.
May 21, 2024 — According to the 2021 Census, 81.7% of the population of England and Wales was white, 9.3% Asian, 4.0% black, 2.9% mixed and 2.1% from other ethnic groups.
Angela Rayner has resigned and given the circumstances she had to. The next question is will she be arrested and charged with fraud / tax evasion.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/09/05/politics-latest-news-angela-rayner-starmer-house-report/
Angela Rayner resigns after admitting she did not pay enough tax | Politics News | Sky News
-- Edited by Syl on Friday 5th of September 2025 12:36:42 PM
I didn't know really anything about Angela Rayner until this news broke (tax evasion and other concerns). Checking her Wikipedia page today and learning about her background she would have been the type of person I could connect with. However given the issues surrounding the current tax evasion (and other concerns) there was clearly some explanation required to explain how she went from an impoverished background to the wealth she has today that is estimated at £4 million.
Separate to this is her competency to do the job her offices required of her (Deputy Leader plus Secretary for Housing) - since resigned. Given her high profile positions it would be worth all members of the Cabinet be equally scrutinized followed by all the members of Parliament and all the members of the House of Lords. After that we should look at regional and local government etc etc.
Highly unlikely Anon. Supporters have been saying that she has 'integrity' and Starmer wrote her a farewell letter saying she was 'right' to refer herself to the independent advisor and 'right' to act on his conlusion.
Credit to her if she referred herself before it was public knowledge, but she didn't do that - she only referred herself once it was all over the front pages, and it was an act of damage limitation and nothing to do with integrity or being honest. The idiot PM seems to think she had a choice not to resign, and has done the right thing by doing it.
The law firm she accused of giving her wrong tax advice says they didn't give her any tax advice at all. A blatant lie by Rayner that isn't get as much attention as it should be.
Her circumstances aren't that 'complex', as she claims they are, and anyone in her situation can google and find out they have to pay the higher stamp duty.
It's funny how these 'honest mistakes' always seem to make the person who made them much better off than they would have been otherwise.
Hope so. I hate the two faced. Cow! Glad she's gone
Using her son with shallow tears.is beyond the pale! Who uses their disabled son for an excuse!
Its all caught up with her! Nasty woman, go on, go shoooo!
Best news of the day is that we will no longer have to listen to the completely useless Yvette Cooper making statements about immigration, as she has been moved on as well.
One bit of good news for Rayner, is that she will no longer have to face the humiliation when the 1.5 million new homes she 'pledged' comes up miles short.
Playing the victim when you’re in a jam, many fall for the sick kid angle (no disrespect intended towards the child here).
She played the system and was caught out. Plenty claiming she had “integrity” - She praised the NHS on one hand and sued them with the other; called for resignations for tax avoiders yet found to have sticky fingers herself; backstabbed a firm who stood their ground and denied her claims of wrong advice. I’m just naffed off she wasn’t sacked, I feel her and Starmer hoped it would eventually be buried but her own greed and stupidity put the kibosh on that. Apparently she’ll receive something in the region of £16 thou on resignation but nowt on being sacked (according to a few posts I’ve read, no idea if that’s true).
Questions are now being asked about her home (the supposed ”primary” home) being over valued - an adapted home that would surely lessen interest.
That’s a handsome loss of salary for “saving” a few (relatively) thousand £££, still, brace yourself for perhaps a book, the after-dinner speech circuit, Strictly or even IACGMOOH.
"I tend to concentrate on tax evasion." https://x.com/Conservatives/status/1963894446379991495.
and not so much on tax avoidance
Raynor is what you get when you cross classless with ego. She was bound to slip up eventually.
Hello Vam
I thanked you for your kind words on the AI thread where I spoke at length about....Chinese tanks. I hope all is well with you.
I agree with you if course. You will be aware he was totally humiliated in America by democrats for stating he admires Putin and the like.
What I don't understand is as the Anon pointed out below your original post Farage has also used loopholes to avoid paying the correct stamp duty. Why is no body in the media outraged about that??
As for him being happy to have a man who beat up his girlfriend being a member of Reform and then citing he wants to protect "women and children" ..If ANYONE else in the public eye behaved like this they would be persona non grata.
He even wants to pay Afghanistan to take back women and children refugees ..so his concern for women doesn't stretch too far them because I think we all know the fate of those poor women. Vam, it honestly feels to me like the world has gone mad.
This is a police chief in the UK who will arrest you for memes no kidding.
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Do tell us more - who did she arrest and what for?
Digs, I genuinely don't feel it's evident she has less class than the rest of the rabble and many politicians have equally big ego's too but I respect your take none the less.
I do concede she had to go. If a Tory MP did what she had I would want them to resign so it would be hypocritical for me to say it should in some unique way be different for her. But Farage has used spousal loopholes to avoid paying the stamp duty he should and goes on benefiting from this. I suppose the difference is it is a "legal" loophole, but ethically it stinks, just like millionaires(of which Farage is one) putting their fortunes in off shore accounts to avoid paying the standard tax .
You seem to know a fair bit about actual statutes and law. If Farage was voted to be PM and removed us from the European court of human rights (which he states is outdated ) do you know what that would entail? My main concern is how would the rest of our human rights be protected.