Re Brits cant do a sustained lockdown like people in China, who are far more 'obedient' to authority.
Statistics show that the majority of people are only going out when necessary. There will always be an element of self entitled idiots who think they are above the law,....no matter that they are putting others at risk and making the lockdown longer than it need be in the long run.
Laws should get tougher, this is a matter of life and death for hundreds of thousands of people.
And Brits are more obedient than Americans. The power of one group of people, to control another, has limits in a free society.
I think it's more self preservation that obedience.
None of us (with a brain) want to die and none of us want to put others at risk. It stands to reason the best way to ensure both is to stay away from others as much as we can till this can be managed better.
People engage in all manner of risky behavior that endangers themselves and others.
That's why the police still arrest people for driving under the influence.
In a free society, you will always have those that look at risks differently.
I agree somewhat. A free society always will have inherent risks because it's free. It seems to me that at the moment people want some magic bullet against risk which doesn't exist and never has.
Also risk can be a fairly subjective area depending on the individual.
As Jefferson said, he prefers "the dangerous seas of liberty, over the calm seas of despotisim" or something to that effect.
very true
Syl said
Apr 3 12:23 PM, 2020
I am now three weeks into self isolation.
Managing OK...the good weather a few days ago helped, having my OH here with me is a Godsend, I think it would be more difficult for me if I lived alone, though I know a few people who do, and they are also coping really well.
Digger said
Apr 3 1:46 PM, 2020
Syl said
Apr 3 2:41 PM, 2020
Maybe I am part witch then, cos I am quite happy being isolated from the rest of the world. ….for now anyway.
John Doe said
Apr 3 3:37 PM, 2020
Syl wrote:
Maybe I am part witch then, cos I am quite happy being isolated from the rest of the world. ….for now anyway.
And the rest of the world is delighted to be isolated from you!
dr synne said
Apr 3 3:40 PM, 2020
Syl wrote:
Maybe I am part witch then, cos I am quite happy being isolated from the rest of the world. ….for now anyway.
I'm finding work/home work/home work/home is really getting to me. And I'm virtually a hermit monk usually.
Syl said
Apr 3 3:45 PM, 2020
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maybe I am part witch then, cos I am quite happy being isolated from the rest of the world. ….for now anyway.
And the rest of the world is delighted to be isolated from you!
Thank you JD, how kind of you to say so.
dr synne said
Apr 3 3:54 PM, 2020
Digger wrote:
God, can you imagine living in a place like that.
Lovely during the day
Shit your pants creepy at night.
John Doe said
Apr 3 4:09 PM, 2020
Syl wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maybe I am part witch then, cos I am quite happy being isolated from the rest of the world. ….for now anyway.
And the rest of the world is delighted to be isolated from you!
Thank you JD, how kind of you to say so.
Maddog said
Apr 3 4:41 PM, 2020
I think Brits are better at being hermits because you have shitty weather. Sorta like Yankees here in the states.
Texans just dont do the whole staying inside as well as others. At least not this Texan.
Even 100 degree weather won't keep me inside. Rain and cold will, to a degree.
Syl said
Apr 3 4:51 PM, 2020
Maddog wrote:
I think Brits are better at being hermits because you have shitty weather. Sorta like Yankees here in the states.
Texans just dont do the whole staying inside as well as others. At least not this Texan.
Even 100 degree weather won't keep me inside. Rain and cold will, to a degree.
I agree, the weather here is often bad and the best place to be is inside.
On the plus side Spring is here and nicer weather is on the horizon, so hopefully we will be getting out in the gardens and out for a bit of exercise.
dr synne said
Apr 3 5:10 PM, 2020
Maddog wrote:
I think Brits are better at being hermits because you have shitty weather. Sorta like Yankees here in the states.
Texans just dont do the whole staying inside as well as others. At least not this Texan.
Even 100 degree weather won't keep me inside. Rain and cold will, to a degree.
I'd be more likely to stay inside in heat like that.
Maddog said
Apr 3 5:41 PM, 2020
dr synne wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think Brits are better at being hermits because you have shitty weather. Sorta like Yankees here in the states.
Texans just dont do the whole staying inside as well as others. At least not this Texan.
Even 100 degree weather won't keep me inside. Rain and cold will, to a degree.
I'd be more likely to stay inside in heat like that.
It takes some acclimating and even then it can be dangerous. You can be outside in that heat, but you need to modify your behavior.
It's why Mexicans are fond of the siesta in the middle of the day.
dr synne said
Apr 3 5:46 PM, 2020
Maddog wrote:
dr synne wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think Brits are better at being hermits because you have shitty weather. Sorta like Yankees here in the states.
Texans just dont do the whole staying inside as well as others. At least not this Texan.
Even 100 degree weather won't keep me inside. Rain and cold will, to a degree.
I'd be more likely to stay inside in heat like that.
It takes some acclimating and even then it can be dangerous. You can be outside in that heat, but you need to modify your behavior.
It's why Mexicans are fond of the siesta in the middle of the day.
Mad dogs and English men though lol
I don't like any extremes of weather myself, neither too hot or cold.
English winters are horrible for the greyness of them.
Syl said
Apr 5 6:41 PM, 2020
What I cant understand is why are garden centres which are now closed are not operating online and advertising home deliveries.
I saw on TV a couple of days ago a grower saying all his plants will have to be destroyed because no one is buying....so why not deliver to the many homeowners who will no doubt be spending more time in their gardens in the coming weeks/months than ever before.?
Digger said
Apr 5 7:13 PM, 2020
Syl wrote:
What I cant understand is why are garden centres which are now closed are not operating online and advertising home deliveries.
I saw on TV a couple of days ago a grower saying all his plants will have to be destroyed because no one is buying....so why not deliver to the many homeowners who will no doubt be spending more time in their gardens in the coming weeks/months than ever before.?
That's what I'd do. I've just ordered 2 Kilos of Pink Fir Apple spuds to plant.
JP said
Apr 5 7:19 PM, 2020
Don't know what Maddog is on about. We get a mighty heatwave once every 20 years.
Of the American States isn't New York said to have the closest climate to that of the UK?
Syl said
Apr 5 7:22 PM, 2020
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
What I cant understand is why are garden centres which are now closed are not operating online and advertising home deliveries.
I saw on TV a couple of days ago a grower saying all his plants will have to be destroyed because no one is buying....so why not deliver to the many homeowners who will no doubt be spending more time in their gardens in the coming weeks/months than ever before.?
That's what I'd do. I've just ordered 2 Kilos of Pink Fir Apple spuds to plant.
Good for you. I have ordered some annuals from shopping channel QVC, I do like their stuff.
I would however have loved to support local garden centres had they been operating online, but they don't seem to be.
dr synne said
Apr 5 7:37 PM, 2020
Syl wrote:
What I cant understand is why are garden centres which are now closed are not operating online and advertising home deliveries.
I saw on TV a couple of days ago a grower saying all his plants will have to be destroyed because no one is buying....so why not deliver to the many homeowners who will no doubt be spending more time in their gardens in the coming weeks/months than ever before.?
I'd imagine it's because people think the plants will be damaged in transit. Could be wrong and it does seem a waste and not great for the garden centres.
dr synne said
Apr 5 7:39 PM, 2020
JP wrote:
Don't know what Maddog is on about. We get a mighty heatwave once every 20 years.
Of the American States isn't New York said to have the closest climate to that of the UK?
I was under the impression it gets much hotter than the UK, winters more severe too.
I think the states closer to the Canadian border might be similar though.
very true
Managing OK...the good weather a few days ago helped, having my OH here with me is a Godsend, I think it would be more difficult for me if I lived alone, though I know a few people who do, and they are also coping really well.
Maybe I am part witch then, cos I am quite happy being isolated from the rest of the world.
….for now anyway.
And the rest of the world is delighted to be isolated from you!
I'm finding work/home work/home work/home is really getting to me. And I'm virtually a hermit monk usually.
Thank you JD, how kind of you to say so.
God, can you imagine living in a place like that.
Lovely during the day
Shit your pants creepy at night.
Texans just dont do the whole staying inside as well as others. At least not this Texan.
Even 100 degree weather won't keep me inside. Rain and cold will, to a degree.
I agree, the weather here is often bad and the best place to be is inside.
On the plus side Spring is here and nicer weather is on the horizon, so hopefully we will be getting out in the gardens and out for a bit of exercise.
I'd be more likely to stay inside in heat like that.
It takes some acclimating and even then it can be dangerous. You can be outside in that heat, but you need to modify your behavior.
It's why Mexicans are fond of the siesta in the middle of the day.
Mad dogs and English men though lol
I don't like any extremes of weather myself, neither too hot or cold.
English winters are horrible for the greyness of them.
I saw on TV a couple of days ago a grower saying all his plants will have to be destroyed because no one is buying....so why not deliver to the many homeowners who will no doubt be spending more time in their gardens in the coming weeks/months than ever before.?
That's what I'd do. I've just ordered 2 Kilos of Pink Fir Apple spuds to plant.
Don't know what Maddog is on about. We get a mighty heatwave once every 20 years.
Of the American States isn't New York said to have the closest climate to that of the UK?
Good for you. I have ordered some annuals from shopping channel QVC, I do like their stuff.
I would however have loved to support local garden centres had they been operating online, but they don't seem to be.
I'd imagine it's because people think the plants will be damaged in transit. Could be wrong and it does seem a waste and not great for the garden centres.
I was under the impression it gets much hotter than the UK, winters more severe too.
I think the states closer to the Canadian border might be similar though.