This film will be banned very soon for 'racism' but I thought it portrayed both sides as magnificently and the great Zulu warriors as almost superhuman with their incredible bravery, forgiveness and grace 60 years ago - plus John' score is eternal.
-- Edited by John Doe on Thursday 25th of June 2020 03:25:10 AM
Oh mate, one of the great British Films IMO. And your right it didn't demean the Zulu nation at all. The music was sublime
John Doe said
Jun 25 11:37 PM, 2020
dr synne wrote:
John Doe wrote:
This film will be banned very soon for 'racism' but I thought it portrayed both sides as magnificently and the great Zulu warriors as almost superhuman with their incredible bravery, forgiveness and grace 60 years ago - plus John' score is eternal.
-- Edited by John Doe on Thursday 25th of June 2020 03:25:10 AM
Oh mate, one of the great British Films IMO. And your right it didn't demean the Zulu nation at all. The music was sublime
Cheers, the music was simply tremendous and so was the acting.
John Doe said
Jun 26 2:55 AM, 2020
Apparently the wokes tried to get a screening of the film banned in 2018 - and who do people think came to it's defense?
That's right - the man who played his own great-grandfather in the film and was also the main historical adviser for the movie - Chief Buthelezi, how rare for common sense to invade this current climate (the original Times article requires you to sign it to read it so I put this one in instead and yes it's the Heil).
But I now expect the film to be banned within the year for glorifying Imperialism - even though it is obviously totally anti-war.
This is a lovely tribute - wonder if Sam Smith has ever watched?
He would probably burst into tears.
-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 26th of June 2020 04:05:33 AM
Magica said
Jun 26 10:41 PM, 2020
Zulu is one of my favourite films. It's shows the bravery of the men in Rourkes Drift. 100 men fighting thousands of zulus. It also shows the terrible injustices done to the magnificent Zulus.
This was due to Chelmsford who crossed into Zululand, and caused this war. He was backed by Queen Victoria as our government never gave permission for him to do that, infact it was The opposite. The government tried to have him kicked out, but the Queen would have nothing said about Chelmsford, infact he was rewarded!
The Boers also did the same to the Zulus, don't hear much of that though.
John Doe said
Jun 26 11:05 PM, 2020
Magica wrote:
Zulu is one of my favourite films. It's shows the bravery of the men in Rourkes Drift. 100 men fighting thousands of zulus. It also shows the terrible injustices done to the magnificent Zulus.
This was due to Chelmsford who crossed into Zululand, and caused this war. He was backed by Queen Victoria as our government never gave permission for him to do that, infact it was The opposite. The government tried to have him kicked out, but the Queen would have nothing said about Chelmsford, infact he was rewarded!
The Boers also did the same to the Zulus, don't hear much of that though.
Yes Mags and how ridiculous that such a magnificent classic was almost banned from screening thanks to virtue signalling morons who had probably never even seen it!
Magica said
Jun 26 11:38 PM, 2020
John Doe wrote:
Magica wrote:
Zulu is one of my favourite films. It's shows the bravery of the men in Rourkes Drift. 100 men fighting thousands of zulus. It also shows the terrible injustices done to the magnificent Zulus.
This was due to Chelmsford who crossed into Zululand, and caused this war. He was backed by Queen Victoria as our government never gave permission for him to do that, infact it was The opposite. The government tried to have him kicked out, but the Queen would have nothing said about Chelmsford, infact he was rewarded!
The Boers also did the same to the Zulus, don't hear much of that though.
Yes Mags and how ridiculous that such a magnificent classic was almost banned from screening thanks to virtue signalling morons who had probably never even seen it!
Exactly. Stanley Baker who starred as Chard and directed the film wanted to give an unbiased, exact picture of the battle. I think he did this fantastically well.
John Doe said
Jun 27 12:17 AM, 2020
Magica wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Magica wrote:
Zulu is one of my favourite films. It's shows the bravery of the men in Rourkes Drift. 100 men fighting thousands of zulus. It also shows the terrible injustices done to the magnificent Zulus.
This was due to Chelmsford who crossed into Zululand, and caused this war. He was backed by Queen Victoria as our government never gave permission for him to do that, infact it was The opposite. The government tried to have him kicked out, but the Queen would have nothing said about Chelmsford, infact he was rewarded!
The Boers also did the same to the Zulus, don't hear much of that though.
Yes Mags and how ridiculous that such a magnificent classic was almost banned from screening thanks to virtue signalling morons who had probably never even seen it!
Exactly. Stanley Baker who starred as Chard and directed the film wanted to give an unbiased, exact picture of the battle. I think he did this fantastically well.
Baker was a truly great actor but to be pedantic prat he was the producer, Cy Enfield was the director - not that it matters!
John Doe said
Jun 27 1:56 AM, 2020
Speaking of great film soundtracks featuring soldiers (Gladiator was not technically a war film, more a quest for vengeance) then this one was not too bad either.
-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 27th of June 2020 02:01:25 AM
Twizzler said
Jun 27 9:06 AM, 2020
John Doe wrote:
Speaking of great film soundtracks featuring soldiers (Gladiator was not technically a war film, more a quest for vengeance) then this one was not too bad either.
-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 27th of June 2020 02:01:25 AM
Acting was pretty dire, especially Russell Crowe? But then he had been in neighbours.
dr synne said
Jun 27 2:45 PM, 2020
John Doe wrote:
dr synne wrote:
John Doe wrote:
This film will be banned very soon for 'racism' but I thought it portrayed both sides as magnificently and the great Zulu warriors as almost superhuman with their incredible bravery, forgiveness and grace 60 years ago - plus John' score is eternal.
-- Edited by John Doe on Thursday 25th of June 2020 03:25:10 AM
Oh mate, one of the great British Films IMO. And your right it didn't demean the Zulu nation at all. The music was sublime
Cheers, the music was simply tremendous and so was the acting.
Michael Caine playing completely out of type, and a young - blink if you miss him - David Bowie, if I have been told correctly.
John Doe said
Jun 28 4:29 PM, 2020
Have people even read 1984?
John Doe said
Jun 29 4:29 AM, 2020
Here is the full classic film, I know it's going to be banned very soon but the King of the Zulus went to Stanley's funeral out of sheer respect for what they did for each other when filming.
I hope the wokes are very happy.
John Doe said
Jul 13 10:14 PM, 2020
Can anybody tell me what the hell 'micro-aggression' is?
Oh mate, one of the great British Films IMO. And your right it didn't demean the Zulu nation at all. The music was sublime
Cheers, the music was simply tremendous and so was the acting.
Apparently the wokes tried to get a screening of the film banned in 2018 - and who do people think came to it's defense?
That's right - the man who played his own great-grandfather in the film and was also the main historical adviser for the movie - Chief Buthelezi, how rare for common sense to invade this current climate (the original Times article requires you to sign it to read it so I put this one in instead and yes it's the Heil).
But I now expect the film to be banned within the year for glorifying Imperialism - even though it is obviously totally anti-war.
I need to buy it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5953537/Zulu-chief-defends-Michael-Caine-film-saying-British-tribal-warriors-respected-other.html
This is a lovely tribute - wonder if Sam Smith has ever watched?
He would probably burst into tears.
-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 26th of June 2020 04:05:33 AM
Zulu is one of my favourite films. It's shows the bravery of the men in Rourkes Drift. 100 men fighting thousands of zulus. It also shows the terrible injustices done to the magnificent Zulus.
This was due to Chelmsford who crossed into Zululand, and caused this war. He was backed by Queen Victoria as our government never gave permission for him to do that, infact it was The opposite. The government tried to have him kicked out, but the Queen would have nothing said about Chelmsford, infact he was rewarded!
The Boers also did the same to the Zulus, don't hear much of that though.
Yes Mags and how ridiculous that such a magnificent classic was almost banned from screening thanks to virtue signalling morons who had probably never even seen it!
Exactly. Stanley Baker who starred as Chard and directed the film wanted to give an unbiased, exact picture of the battle. I think he did this fantastically well.
Baker was a truly great actor but to be pedantic prat he was the producer, Cy Enfield was the director - not that it matters!
Speaking of great film soundtracks featuring soldiers (Gladiator was not technically a war film, more a quest for vengeance) then this one was not too bad either.
-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 27th of June 2020 02:01:25 AM
Acting was pretty dire, especially Russell Crowe? But then he had been in neighbours.
Michael Caine playing completely out of type, and a young - blink if you miss him - David Bowie, if I have been told correctly.
Have people even read 1984?
Here is the full classic film, I know it's going to be banned very soon but the King of the Zulus went to Stanley's funeral out of sheer respect for what they did for each other when filming.
I hope the wokes are very happy.
Can anybody tell me what the hell 'micro-aggression' is?
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/199434/department-earth-science-engineering-history-legacy/
A little bit angry?
A mass dwarf attack?
Warwick Davies turns Ninja?
Grumpy slaps Snow White?
The Oompa Lumpas get tooled up and attack the Munchkins?
-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 14th of July 2020 12:25:38 AM
Night JD. x