For those wondering where Trump us getting his info from.....
Of course most healthcare professionals still think Tylenol is safe for pregnant women..
-- Edited by Maddog on Wednesday 24th of September 2025 04:32:50 PM
Well, if it had been proven or if there was even the slightest chance of it being true the FDA would put the aforementioned info on the patient leaflet.
Why don't they?
They are now..
Does that make it true?
Syl said
Sep 24 7:01 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Not 100's of billions Maddog.
"Source...kiel institute for the World Economy. Compiled Dec 24.
TOP DONORS OF MILITARY AID FOR THE UKRAINE.
USA has given 69 billion including weapons, equipment and financial assistance for military purposes.
Depends who's data is correct then....they can't both be right.
Part of it is how much has been dispersed..
There is money appropriated and money spent..
Also, it's not all cash..We give them a lot of older weapons. Those are harder to value than a new F-35, or a bunch of cash..
All wars are mega expensive, the cost of human life and the actual monetary cost.
WW2 cost in excess of three trillion pounds in todays money....it's hard to even envisage that sort of money.
Fluffy said
Sep 24 7:08 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
So no video?
It should take about 30 seconds..
I'm having trouble with the link. You realise this is LBC presenter James O Brien saying "a teacher in Staffordshire (I think) got sacked" for her posts on social media regarding Trump and Kirk,and that's it?
I had to watch 5 LBC videos and it's edited but at least he references it. Don't ask for a timestamp, it's in the middle somewhere.
I didn't say teachers weren't fired.
I said they weren't fired for not showing proper remorse for Kirk's murder..
100s of people have been fired for making hateful comments on social media..
People danced on Thatcher's Grave. They weren't fired. Aren't you concerned about this erosion in your freedom of speech which should be covered by the Fifth Amendment? Trump wants a dictatorship but Vam was right, people power stopped him achieving it. The public cancelled their subscription services to Disney nd Hulu and showed Trump who really had the true power!
Kimmel addressed this in his triumphant but emotional return
In an eloquent and emotional monologue, Kimmel assailed “anti-American” efforts to curtail free speech in the United States and signaled that he won’t temper his criticism of the president after a nearly week-long suspension of his show amid pressure from the Trump administration.
“This show is not important,” Kimmel told viewers. “What’s important is that we live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.”
Kimmel spoke about spending time with comedians from countries where people “get thrown in prison for making fun of those in power, and worse.”
Fluffy said
Sep 24 7:20 PM, 2025
Vam wrote:
”Vam, how can the Democrats or anybody fight a madman surrounded by Yes men and sycophants on the pay roll when he is literally the most powerful man in the world? “
Online messaging could be key, imv. And the more outrageous and viral, the better! More Democrats should be stepping up, as Governor Gavin Newsom has, and absolutely hammer the hell out of trump with some combative no-holds-barred mockery, and relentless emphasis on what a depraved, stone-cold liar and self-enriching conman he really is. Nothing enrages that sociopathic narcissist more than being mocked. Ditto, his enablers - especially those in Congress and the Supreme Court.
Fight fire, not with fire, but with volcanic viral messaging. And very little should squeamishly be considered as ‘crossing boundaries’. Trump bulldozes through boundaries every single day! As for public protests, yes, of course there’s always a risk in turning out to protest these days. Trump is itching to unleash the US military onto civilians. But if massive swathes of protesters in historic numbers keep taking to the streets every day, or even if there’s a General Strike, what’s the military/law enforcement gonna do? Arrest every single person?
Fluffs, you’re right. There are no obvious easy solutions to break the impasse of trump’s claustrophobic tyranny. But something has to happen ASAP, or America will be lost forever.
-- Edited by Vam on Monday 22nd of September 2025 02:14:40 PM
Vam, you were right! People power really can trump..Trump. When Kimmel.was sacked from ABC people cancelled their subscription services in protest and that hit these people the only place they really care about..their bank accounts. The annoyed shareholders had to.be appeased and order was restored.
That is the way to keep Trump in line from challenging free speech. But he left a furious post on TruthSocial (does only Trump have an account there ?I suspect so) despite Kimmel 's emotional and kind words regarding Erica Kirk. As for getting rid of Trump.as President..He will glue himself to the damn chair.
For those wondering where Trump us getting his info from.....
Of course most healthcare professionals still think Tylenol is safe for pregnant women..
-- Edited by Maddog on Wednesday 24th of September 2025 04:32:50 PM
Well, if it had been proven or if there was even the slightest chance of it being true the FDA would put the aforementioned info on the patient leaflet.
Why don't they?
They are now..
Does that make it true?
Well, I don't know. A doctor on Sky News today said it was rubbish 🤷 I know for a fact pregnant ladies will.adhere to it just in case because they worry.
The FDA approves a lot of American food that isn't safe so if they have said there is a slight risk, that's saying something for them.
Maddog said
Sep 24 8:17 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
So no video?
It should take about 30 seconds..
I'm having trouble with the link. You realise this is LBC presenter James O Brien saying "a teacher in Staffordshire (I think) got sacked" for her posts on social media regarding Trump and Kirk,and that's it?
I had to watch 5 LBC videos and it's edited but at least he references it. Don't ask for a timestamp, it's in the middle somewhere.
I didn't say teachers weren't fired.
I said they weren't fired for not showing proper remorse for Kirk's murder..
100s of people have been fired for making hateful comments on social media..
People danced on Thatcher's Grave. They weren't fired. Aren't you concerned about this erosion in your freedom of speech which should be covered by the Fifth Amendment? Trump wants a dictatorship but Vam was right, people power stopped him achieving it. The public cancelled their subscription services to Disney nd Hulu and showed Trump who really had the true power!
Kimmel addressed this in his triumphant but emotional return
In an eloquent and emotional monologue, Kimmel assailed “anti-American” efforts to curtail free speech in the United States and signaled that he won’t temper his criticism of the president after a nearly week-long suspension of his show amid pressure from the Trump administration.
“This show is not important,” Kimmel told viewers. “What’s important is that we live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.”
Kimmel spoke about spending time with comedians from countries where people “get thrown in prison for making fun of those in power, and worse.”
It's the First Amendment and it protects us from the government..
It's why you can wear a Klan robe and march down the street and not be arrested, but you sure as fuck can be fired..
For those wondering where Trump us getting his info from.....
Of course most healthcare professionals still think Tylenol is safe for pregnant women..
-- Edited by Maddog on Wednesday 24th of September 2025 04:32:50 PM
Well, if it had been proven or if there was even the slightest chance of it being true the FDA would put the aforementioned info on the patient leaflet.
Why don't they?
They are now..
Does that make it true?
Well, I don't know. A doctor on Sky News today said it was rubbish 🤷 I know for a fact pregnant ladies will.adhere to it just in case because they worry.
The FDA approves a lot of American food that isn't safe so if they have said there is a slight risk, that's saying something for them.
Generally, pregnant ladies listen to their doctors or make up their own minds..
And you are right about the FDA. So why are you worried about them now?
Maddog said
Sep 24 8:22 PM, 2025
And it's a bit laughable for a Brit to worry about American free speech.
We dont arrest people over social media posts..
Maddog said
Sep 24 9:11 PM, 2025
And from yesterday's news. Nothing Trump is doing hasn't been done before. Doesn't make it right
, just doesn't make it especially terrifying either..
-- Edited by Digger on Thursday 25th of September 2025 04:34:36 PM
I'm having trouble with the link. You realise this is LBC presenter James O Brien saying "a teacher in Staffordshire (I think) got sacked" for her posts on social media regarding Trump and Kirk,and that's it?
I had to watch 5 LBC videos and it's edited but at least he references it. Don't ask for a timestamp, it's in the middle somewhere.
I didn't say teachers weren't fired.
I said they weren't fired for not showing proper remorse for Kirk's murder..
100s of people have been fired for making hateful comments on social media..
People danced on Thatcher's Grave. They weren't fired. Aren't you concerned about this erosion in your freedom of speech which should be covered by the Fifth Amendment? Trump wants a dictatorship but Vam was right, people power stopped him achieving it. The public cancelled their subscription services to Disney nd Hulu and showed Trump who really had the true power!
Kimmel addressed this in his triumphant but emotional return
In an eloquent and emotional monologue, Kimmel assailed “anti-American” efforts to curtail free speech in the United States and signaled that he won’t temper his criticism of the president after a nearly week-long suspension of his show amid pressure from the Trump administration.
“This show is not important,” Kimmel told viewers. “What’s important is that we live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.”
Kimmel spoke about spending time with comedians from countries where people “get thrown in prison for making fun of those in power, and worse.”
It's the First Amendment and it protects us from the government..
It's why you can wear a Klan robe and march down the street and not be arrested, but you sure as fuck can be fired..
Clear?
No. People are being threatened by the government that they will be "exiled from the US" if they do not conform with the whitewashed view of Kirk and refrain from.mocking Trump.
And being fired is meant to be protected by the Fifth Amendment in matters such as this. But Trump just makes up laws and ignores laws as he pleases.
Fluffy said
Sep 24 9:25 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
And from yesterday's news. Nothing Trump is doing hasn't been done before. Doesn't make it right
, just doesn't make it especially terrifying either..
Umm. But Biden's not Trump is he.
Why didn't you vote for MAGA because you do defend Trump an awful lot. You don't strike me as to the left. Did you refrain from.voting?
if you don't want to reveal it that's perfectly acceptable. I voted for Plaid Cymru and that was a total waste of time.
-- Edited by Digger on Thursday 25th of September 2025 04:34:55 PM
Fluffy said
Sep 24 9:43 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
So no video?
It should take about 30 seconds..
I'm having trouble with the link. You realise this is LBC presenter James O Brien saying "a teacher in Staffordshire (I think) got sacked" for her posts on social media regarding Trump and Kirk,and that's it?
I had to watch 5 LBC videos and it's edited but at least he references it. Don't ask for a timestamp, it's in the middle somewhere.
I didn't say teachers weren't fired.
I said they weren't fired for not showing proper remorse for Kirk's murder..
100s of people have been fired for making hateful comments on social media..
People danced on Thatcher's Grave. They weren't fired. Aren't you concerned about this erosion in your freedom of speech which should be covered by the Fifth Amendment? Trump wants a dictatorship but Vam was right, people power stopped him achieving it. The public cancelled their subscription services to Disney nd Hulu and showed Trump who really had the true power!
Kimmel addressed this in his triumphant but emotional return
In an eloquent and emotional monologue, Kimmel assailed “anti-American” efforts to curtail free speech in the United States and signaled that he won’t temper his criticism of the president after a nearly week-long suspension of his show amid pressure from the Trump administration.
“This show is not important,” Kimmel told viewers. “What’s important is that we live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.”
Kimmel spoke about spending time with comedians from countries where people “get thrown in prison for making fun of those in power, and worse.”
It's the First Amendment and it protects us from the government..
It's why you can wear a Klan robe and march down the street and not be arrested, but you sure as fuck can be fired..
Clear?
People can wear KKK robes? That's a protection our country doesn't require thankfully.
But then our government isn't into white supremacy, unlike yours..
Anonymous said
Sep 25 7:38 AM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
And from yesterday's news. Nothing Trump is doing hasn't been done before. Doesn't make it right
, just doesn't make it especially terrifying either..
Umm. But Biden's not Trump is he.
Why didn't you vote for MAGA because you do defend Trump an awful lot.
He does seem to align with right-wing politics despite labelling himself 'Libertarian'.
Anonymous said
Sep 25 10:44 AM, 2025
A deranged Trump trumpeting he was sabotaged by the UN, talks of 'sinister events' threatening his dignity, calls for arrests and sackings.
-- Edited by Digger on Thursday 25th of September 2025 04:35:15 PM
Maddog said
Sep 25 5:05 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
So no video?
It should take about 30 seconds..
I'm having trouble with the link. You realise this is LBC presenter James O Brien saying "a teacher in Staffordshire (I think) got sacked" for her posts on social media regarding Trump and Kirk,and that's it?
I had to watch 5 LBC videos and it's edited but at least he references it. Don't ask for a timestamp, it's in the middle somewhere.
I didn't say teachers weren't fired.
I said they weren't fired for not showing proper remorse for Kirk's murder..
100s of people have been fired for making hateful comments on social media..
People danced on Thatcher's Grave. They weren't fired. Aren't you concerned about this erosion in your freedom of speech which should be covered by the Fifth Amendment? Trump wants a dictatorship but Vam was right, people power stopped him achieving it. The public cancelled their subscription services to Disney nd Hulu and showed Trump who really had the true power!
Kimmel addressed this in his triumphant but emotional return
In an eloquent and emotional monologue, Kimmel assailed “anti-American” efforts to curtail free speech in the United States and signaled that he won’t temper his criticism of the president after a nearly week-long suspension of his show amid pressure from the Trump administration.
“This show is not important,” Kimmel told viewers. “What’s important is that we live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.”
Kimmel spoke about spending time with comedians from countries where people “get thrown in prison for making fun of those in power, and worse.”
It's the First Amendment and it protects us from the government..
It's why you can wear a Klan robe and march down the street and not be arrested, but you sure as fuck can be fired..
Clear?
No. People are being threatened by the government that they will be "exiled from the US" if they do not conform with the whitewashed view of Kirk and refrain from.mocking Trump.
And being fired is meant to be protected by the Fifth Amendment in matters such as this. But Trump just makes up laws and ignores laws as he pleases.
No one is being exiled, and the fifth amendment has nothing to do with speech or employment.
People are being fired if their employers don't like the hateful things they say. That is nothing new.
Where do you find this nonsense?
Maddog said
Sep 25 5:06 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
And from yesterday's news. Nothing Trump is doing hasn't been done before. Doesn't make it right
, just doesn't make it especially terrifying either..
Umm. But Biden's not Trump is he.
Why didn't you vote for MAGA because you do defend Trump an awful lot. You don't strike me as to the left. Did you refrain from.voting?
if you don't want to reveal it that's perfectly acceptable. I voted for Plaid Cymru and that was a total waste of time.
-- Edited by Digger on Thursday 25th of September 2025 04:34:55 PM
Biden isn't that different than Trump.
I usually vote 3rd party..
I wrote in my granddaughters this last time..
Maddog said
Sep 25 5:08 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
So no video?
It should take about 30 seconds..
I'm having trouble with the link. You realise this is LBC presenter James O Brien saying "a teacher in Staffordshire (I think) got sacked" for her posts on social media regarding Trump and Kirk,and that's it?
I had to watch 5 LBC videos and it's edited but at least he references it. Don't ask for a timestamp, it's in the middle somewhere.
I didn't say teachers weren't fired.
I said they weren't fired for not showing proper remorse for Kirk's murder..
100s of people have been fired for making hateful comments on social media..
People danced on Thatcher's Grave. They weren't fired. Aren't you concerned about this erosion in your freedom of speech which should be covered by the Fifth Amendment? Trump wants a dictatorship but Vam was right, people power stopped him achieving it. The public cancelled their subscription services to Disney nd Hulu and showed Trump who really had the true power!
Kimmel addressed this in his triumphant but emotional return
In an eloquent and emotional monologue, Kimmel assailed “anti-American” efforts to curtail free speech in the United States and signaled that he won’t temper his criticism of the president after a nearly week-long suspension of his show amid pressure from the Trump administration.
“This show is not important,” Kimmel told viewers. “What’s important is that we live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.”
Kimmel spoke about spending time with comedians from countries where people “get thrown in prison for making fun of those in power, and worse.”
It's the First Amendment and it protects us from the government..
It's why you can wear a Klan robe and march down the street and not be arrested, but you sure as fuck can be fired..
Clear?
People can wear KKK robes? That's a protection our country doesn't require thankfully.
But then our government isn't into white supremacy, unlike yours..
It's called free speech and our First Amendment protects it..
You can say whatever you like and you won't be arrested..
Parents didn't want him around their kids and the school board agreed..
They are now..
Does that make it true?
All wars are mega expensive, the cost of human life and the actual monetary cost.
WW2 cost in excess of three trillion pounds in todays money....it's hard to even envisage that sort of money.
People danced on Thatcher's Grave. They weren't fired. Aren't you concerned about this erosion in your freedom of speech which should be covered by the Fifth Amendment? Trump wants a dictatorship but Vam was right, people power stopped him achieving it. The public cancelled their subscription services to Disney nd Hulu and showed Trump who really had the true power!
Kimmel addressed this in his triumphant but emotional return
In an eloquent and emotional monologue, Kimmel assailed “anti-American” efforts to curtail free speech in the United States and signaled that he won’t temper his criticism of the president after a nearly week-long suspension of his show amid pressure from the Trump administration.
“This show is not important,” Kimmel told viewers. “What’s important is that we live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.”
Kimmel spoke about spending time with comedians from countries where people “get thrown in prison for making fun of those in power, and worse.”
Vam, you were right! People power really can trump..Trump. When Kimmel.was sacked from ABC people cancelled their subscription services in protest and that hit these people the only place they really care about..their bank accounts. The annoyed shareholders had to.be appeased and order was restored.
That is the way to keep Trump in line from challenging free speech. But he left a furious post on TruthSocial (does only Trump have an account there ?I suspect so) despite Kimmel 's emotional and kind words regarding Erica Kirk. As for getting rid of Trump.as President..He will glue himself to the damn chair.
Well, I don't know. A doctor on Sky News today said it was rubbish 🤷 I know for a fact pregnant ladies will.adhere to it just in case because they worry.
The FDA approves a lot of American food that isn't safe so if they have said there is a slight risk, that's saying something for them.
It's the First Amendment and it protects us from the government..
It's why you can wear a Klan robe and march down the street and not be arrested, but you sure as fuck can be fired..
Clear?
Generally, pregnant ladies listen to their doctors or make up their own minds..
And you are right about the FDA. So why are you worried about them now?
We dont arrest people over social media posts..
And from yesterday's news. Nothing Trump is doing hasn't been done before. Doesn't make it right
, just doesn't make it especially terrifying either..
-- Edited by Digger on Thursday 25th of September 2025 04:34:36 PM
No. People are being threatened by the government that they will be "exiled from the US" if they do not conform with the whitewashed view of Kirk and refrain from.mocking Trump.
And being fired is meant to be protected by the Fifth Amendment in matters such as this. But Trump just makes up laws and ignores laws as he pleases.
Umm. But Biden's not Trump is he.
Why didn't you vote for MAGA because you do defend Trump an awful lot. You don't strike me as to the left. Did you refrain from.voting?
if you don't want to reveal it that's perfectly acceptable. I voted for Plaid Cymru and that was a total waste of time.
-- Edited by Digger on Thursday 25th of September 2025 04:34:55 PM
People can wear KKK robes? That's a protection our country doesn't require thankfully.
But then our government isn't into white supremacy, unlike yours..
He does seem to align with right-wing politics despite labelling himself 'Libertarian'.
A deranged Trump trumpeting he was sabotaged by the UN, talks of 'sinister events' threatening his dignity, calls for arrests and sackings.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3dr0zrr1kpo
Another one, pregnant, has overdosed on Tylenol for spite against Trump and is now in intensive care, dying.
You often don't recover from a paracetamol overdose.
https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1971019653624496521
-- Edited by Digger on Thursday 25th of September 2025 04:35:15 PM
No one is being exiled, and the fifth amendment has nothing to do with speech or employment.
People are being fired if their employers don't like the hateful things they say. That is nothing new.
Where do you find this nonsense?
Biden isn't that different than Trump.
I usually vote 3rd party..
I wrote in my granddaughters this last time..
It's called free speech and our First Amendment protects it..
You can say whatever you like and you won't be arrested..
You can even wear the robes on a TV show..