Creepy...Netflix, MONSTER, the Ed Gein story. The man who inspired Hitchcocks Psycho. Not surprising he was a raving monster with a mother like that.
Incidentally, the actress who played the mother also played Rosanne's sister in the sitcom of the same name. I recognised her face.
Hub watching that, I didn't fancy it.
Oooh it's good Mags...I like a bit of a horror.
He based Norman Bates on Ed Gein.
They merged the way he butchered his girlfriend in the shower, and showed it as if it was Hitchcock's shower scene where Janette Leigh gets slashed to death by Norman Bates. People ran out of the cinema in shock.
The thing is though, Hitchcock deliberately shot Psycho in black and white because he thought it would be too gruesome in colour.
Sounds good Syl. I loved Psycho.
Digger said
Oct 5 10:48 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Creepy...Netflix, MONSTER, the Ed Gein story. The man who inspired Hitchcocks Psycho. Not surprising he was a raving monster with a mother like that.
Incidentally, the actress who played the mother also played Rosanne's sister in the sitcom of the same name. I recognised her face.
We've started watching it. it was only the first few minutes in when the bit where he was dressed in his mother's underwear while jerking off came on.....I was like NOOOOOOOOO!
Syl said
Oct 5 11:36 PM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Creepy...Netflix, MONSTER, the Ed Gein story. The man who inspired Hitchcocks Psycho. Not surprising he was a raving monster with a mother like that.
Incidentally, the actress who played the mother also played Rosanne's sister in the sitcom of the same name. I recognised her face.
We've started watching it. it was only the first few minutes in when the bit where he was dressed in his mother's underwear while jerking off came on.....I was like NOOOOOOOOO!
It gets worse....episode three he does the same wearing her underwear and her face.
Digger said
Oct 9 10:48 AM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Creepy...Netflix, MONSTER, the Ed Gein story. The man who inspired Hitchcocks Psycho. Not surprising he was a raving monster with a mother like that.
Incidentally, the actress who played the mother also played Rosanne's sister in the sitcom of the same name. I recognised her face.
We've started watching it. it was only the first few minutes in when the bit where he was dressed in his mother's underwear while jerking off came on.....I was like NOOOOOOOOO!
It gets worse....episode three he does the same wearing her underwear and her face.
Magica said
Oct 9 10:55 AM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Creepy...Netflix, MONSTER, the Ed Gein story. The man who inspired Hitchcocks Psycho. Not surprising he was a raving monster with a mother like that.
Incidentally, the actress who played the mother also played Rosanne's sister in the sitcom of the same name. I recognised her face.
We've started watching it. it was only the first few minutes in when the bit where he was dressed in his mother's underwear while jerking off came on.....I was like NOOOOOOOOO!
It gets worse....episode three he does the same wearing her underwear and her face.
Don't think I'll watch this
Digger said
Oct 10 2:19 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Creepy...Netflix, MONSTER, the Ed Gein story. The man who inspired Hitchcocks Psycho. Not surprising he was a raving monster with a mother like that.
Incidentally, the actress who played the mother also played Rosanne's sister in the sitcom of the same name. I recognised her face.
We've started watching it. it was only the first few minutes in when the bit where he was dressed in his mother's underwear while jerking off came on.....I was like NOOOOOOOOO!
It gets worse....episode three he does the same wearing her underwear and her face.
Don't think I'll watch this
It's actually very depressing and sad. His parents were a nightmare, particularly the mother, and utterly twisted her sons. Made worse by the fact that they lived in a very isolated place.
Syl said
Oct 10 5:22 PM, 2025
Plus he had undiagnosed schizophrenia, and when, near the end of his life he was diagnosed, things began to fall into place for him...it was very touching.
The actor who played Ed was brilliant. He is Charles Hunnam, an English actor, he starred in the TV drama series Queer as Folk when he was still a teenager.
Magica said
Oct 10 5:30 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Plus he had undiagnosed schizophrenia, and when, near the end of his life he was diagnosed, things began to fall into place for him...it was very touching.
The actor who played Ed was brilliant. He is Charles Hunnam, an English actor, he starred in the TV drama series Queer as Folk when he was still a teenager.
Hubs watching it, but I don't like films like this, they upset me. 😣
Syl said
Oct 10 5:34 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Plus he had undiagnosed schizophrenia, and when, near the end of his life he was diagnosed, things began to fall into place for him...it was very touching.
The actor who played Ed was brilliant. He is Charles Hunnam, an English actor, he starred in the TV drama series Queer as Folk when he was still a teenager.
Hubs watching it, but I don't like films like this, they upset me. 😣
I think when it's based on a real life person, it can be upsetting.
His actions throughout his younger life were certainly horrific, but you couldn't help feeling sorry for him. In his later years he was a gentle, but horrendously mixed up soul.
Amazing, just shows what kids can do if they are left to get on with it.
I watched it twice! Terrific pictures charting their epic adventures, too.
Fluffy said
Nov 9 11:27 AM, 2025
On the thread I posted concerning ageing Digs posted this.
. It took me asking the Universe and the angels to give me the person I needed not the person I thought I wanted, for me to finally find the right man
If this is too sensitive Digs tell me to butt out but this sentence really stood out to me.
I wish I was more spiritual and I certainly think there is something going on behind the scenes . It would be foolish and arrogant to believe we are the only sentient life in a universe so vast.
I just wondered if you were speaking literally. I know some people believe we have Guardian Angels but why then do so many horrible atrocities occur in the world? Unless of course, this is not our real home.
I would dearly wish there to be an afterlife where people who have left us are at peace but still with us on some level. It just sounds too good to be true and sadly there has never been any thing approaching proof to suggest this. I hoped you would elaborate on your thoughts.
I think the West has certainly lost its way when it comes to spirituality and religion concentrating instead on technology and capitalism. I think that's why AI feels so very wrong to me, it's the total opposite of anything spiritual. It is unnatural and cold.
Anyway I am meandering away from the topic again and hope you respond.
Fluffy said
Nov 14 6:54 PM, 2025
Anyway. I often wonder about Angels and if something akin to a protective being that radiates goodness really exists. Of course the wholesome image of a white cloaked Angel with a cherub like face on Christmas cards is a far cry from the reality of Biblical Angels, although the Bible does cite rare human like Angels.
Biblical descriptions reveal a diverse and sometimes bizarre array of angelic beings.
Seraphim angels are described in the Book of Isaiah as having six wings—two covering their faces, two covering their feet, and two for flying. They are often associated with fire and purity, embodying a sense of awe and reverence.
Personally I think cats and dogs see things we don't. We don't see reality as it really is, apparently our brains wouldn't be able to handle it. We don't even have access to the whole colour spectrum. The intense way pet's stare at a spot where nothing appears to be can sometimes be eerie. An article was on here about a cat in a nursing home who always went to visit a resident before they were soon to pass away. I suppose seeing the cat at that time knowing this information sadly would be distressing. 😐
Scholars say that there is nothing otherworldly about it, cats sense of smell is simply far stronger than ours and they can smell disease, and human death. The viral clips of dogs growling at something unseen being dismissed as much ado about nothing is all very well but just because we can't see anything doesn't mean the dog cannot. The dog's distress is all too real and they are certainly sensing or seeing humans cannot which it has been proven they are able to do. Yet in these videos the dogs are usually sensing something hostile and the cat's fixed state is intense not friendly. So maybe there are less than wholesome forces we are happily unable to see.
It's a very sentimental thing to add but the unrelenting loyalty of dogs to their owner's and the loving gentle purring and kneading of cats upon their owners is to me, angelic. There is something special about them imo. They would do anything for us and in many aspects, they see, hear and experience different facets of the world than we do. There is nothing more akin to bring angelic than innocence and I think that's why we are so protective of young children, kittens 😺and dogs. Because they are the epitome of innocence.
Sentimentality aside, I do believe there is a force of good we cannot see. I think it exists within caring people and special pets and that's why we feel so bereft when they leave us. I believe it exists outside sentient life too but humans have no way of perceiving it without going mad..and whatever cats are able to see they aren't telling! I have also had something happen to me that I can't explain. Nothing supernatural or even particularly interesting, just impossible.
if anyone thinks something of any nature exists that we are unable to see or has had something happen to them that they can't explain I would love to hear! There is a beautiful video of the trusting nature of a cat and a child but will it load? No it will not.
-- Edited by Fluffy on Friday 14th of November 2025 08:13:39 PM
Syl said
Nov 14 7:55 PM, 2025
I am the least spiritual person ever...I dont hear or see nothing that can't be explained, however I have written of this before.
When my mum was in hospital 3 months before she passed, for Christmas I bought her slippers and a radio, She never managed to stand again, so the slippers were never worn, and the transistor radio was never used and still in the box,
After her death, I brought the radio home and put it in a drawer. We had put batteries in it before we gave it, just in case she wanted it by her bedside...but she never did.
A while after her death, my OH came upstairs and said he had heard noises coming out of the drawer...he had a look, and the radio was turned on. No one had been near the drawer it was in, and the radio was still in the box, so how it managed to be playing after weeks was unexplained.
Oddly, it was a cooking programme, and my mum didn't have much interest in cooking.
Fluffy said
Nov 14 8:41 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
I am the least spiritual person ever...I dont hear or see nothing that can't be explained, however I have written of this before. When my mum was in hospital 3 months before she passed, for Christmas I bought her slippers and a radio, She never managed to stand again, so the slippers were never worn, and the transistor radio was never used and still in the box, After her death, I brought the radio home and put it in a drawer. We had put batteries in it before we gave it, just in case she wanted it by her bedside...but she never did. A while after her death, my OH came upstairs and said he had heard noises coming out of the drawer...he had a look, and the radio was turned on. No one had been near the drawer it was in, and the radio was still in the box, so how it managed to be playing after weeks was unexplained.
Oddly, it was a cooking programme, and my mum didn't have much interest in cooking.
That to me sounds unexplained considering the radio was in a box and unable to be turned on. But I can understand why you feel it's not significant as what was turned on did not relate to your mother in any way. But it made you think of your Mum. This is the sort of thing that makes me wonder.
I might aswell share my impossible but not particularly interesting story. I was 19 and still infatuated with my ex, the Kurdish bloke I mentioned before who was a few years older than me. We had a horrible phone conversation, I had told my new flatmate he was my boyfriend as he still 'popped round'. She said it to him in passing in a friendly way and he had corrected her bluntly. During this phone convo he ordered me not to lie to anyone else, we were over and basically get a grip.
I had bought a new phone that I had not yet opened. I opened it a few days later but regretted purchasing it, it was clunky looking even for 2003. There was a voicemail on it when I finished charging it. Nobody had this number yet. The voicemail was a portion of the conversation with my ex.
What startled me was how desperate and unhappy I sounded. I sounded like a doormat but just also incredibly sad. I realised I had to let him go and did.But the way I sounded just horrified me.
I played the recording to my friend who believed my ex had to have found my phone.But it has still been in its box, uncharged and more to the point with old fashioned mobiles the number wasn't easy to find. Also it meant he had recorded our conversation in the first place, something he didn't care enough to do. If phones did that then. And why not send it to my normal number?? I saw him to my shame a few times afterwards.He didn't know anything. I didn't ask him.
I was living quite a chaotic existence so this actually happening didn't even phase me. I couldn't stand my desperate shrieking and deleted the voicemail. I can still hear how I sounded now. It helped me move on. My new partner was much kinder and soon after I left London.
Nobody had that phone number or knew I had the phone. But however I got it, I needed to get that. message.
Syl said
Nov 14 11:06 PM, 2025
I don't know if anyone could explain how that happened Fluffy...it's unfathomable. But it opened your eyes as to what a bad relationship you were in, so good came out of it.
One other thing I can think of. When younger my OH was a deep sleeper. Once asleep he stayed asleep till the alarm.
Early one morning, around 5am, he suddenly woke up, got up, and just went to the window and stood there looking out. He got a phonecall a few hours later, his dad, who hadn't been ill, died unexpectedly in the night....around that time.
Sounds good Syl. I loved Psycho.
We've started watching it. it was only the first few minutes in when the bit where he was dressed in his mother's underwear while jerking off came on.....I was like NOOOOOOOOO!
It gets worse....episode three he does the same wearing her underwear and her face.
Don't think I'll watch this
It's actually very depressing and sad. His parents were a nightmare, particularly the mother, and utterly twisted her sons. Made worse by the fact that they lived in a very isolated place.
The actor who played Ed was brilliant. He is Charles Hunnam, an English actor, he starred in the TV drama series Queer as Folk when he was still a teenager.
Hubs watching it, but I don't like films like this, they upset me. 😣
I think when it's based on a real life person, it can be upsetting.
His actions throughout his younger life were certainly horrific, but you couldn't help feeling sorry for him. In his later years he was a gentle, but horrendously mixed up soul.
😕
😲. Evil man!
Yes he was. But it was an evil world. We are making progress though.
Amazing, just shows what kids can do if they are left to get on with it.
I watched it twice!
Terrific pictures charting their epic adventures, too.
On the thread I posted concerning ageing Digs posted this.
. It took me asking the Universe and the angels to give me the person I needed not the person I thought I wanted, for me to finally find the right man
If this is too sensitive Digs tell me to butt out but this sentence really stood out to me.
I wish I was more spiritual and I certainly think there is something going on behind the scenes . It would be foolish and arrogant to believe we are the only sentient life in a universe so vast.
I just wondered if you were speaking literally. I know some people believe we have Guardian Angels but why then do so many horrible atrocities occur in the world? Unless of course, this is not our real home.
I would dearly wish there to be an afterlife where people who have left us are at peace but still with us on some level. It just sounds too good to be true and sadly there has never been any thing approaching proof to suggest this. I hoped you would elaborate on your thoughts.
I think the West has certainly lost its way when it comes to spirituality and religion concentrating instead on technology and capitalism. I think that's why AI feels so very wrong to me, it's the total opposite of anything spiritual. It is unnatural and cold.
Anyway I am meandering away from the topic again
and hope you respond.
Anyway. I often wonder about Angels and if something akin to a protective being that radiates goodness really exists. Of course the wholesome image of a white cloaked Angel with a cherub like face on Christmas cards is a far cry from the reality of Biblical Angels, although the Bible does cite rare human like Angels.
Biblical descriptions reveal a diverse and sometimes bizarre array of angelic beings.
Seraphim angels are described in the Book of Isaiah as having six wings—two covering their faces, two covering their feet, and two for flying. They are often associated with fire and purity, embodying a sense of awe and reverence.
Personally I think cats and dogs see things we don't. We don't see reality as it really is, apparently our brains wouldn't be able to handle it. We don't even have access to the whole colour spectrum. The intense way pet's stare at a spot where nothing appears to be can sometimes be eerie. An article was on here about a cat in a nursing home who always went to visit a resident before they were soon to pass away. I suppose seeing the cat at that time knowing this information sadly would be distressing. 😐
Scholars say that there is nothing otherworldly about it, cats sense of smell is simply far stronger than ours and they can smell disease, and human death. The viral clips of dogs growling at something unseen being dismissed as much ado about nothing is all very well but just because we can't see anything doesn't mean the dog cannot. The dog's distress is all too real and they are certainly sensing or seeing humans cannot which it has been proven they are able to do. Yet in these videos the dogs are usually sensing something hostile and the cat's fixed state is intense not friendly. So maybe there are less than wholesome forces we are happily unable to see.
It's a very sentimental thing to add but the unrelenting loyalty of dogs to their owner's and the loving gentle purring and kneading of cats upon their owners is to me, angelic. There is something special about them imo. They would do anything for us and in many aspects, they see, hear and experience different facets of the world than we do. There is nothing more akin to bring angelic than innocence and I think that's why we are so protective of young children, kittens 😺and dogs. Because they are the epitome of innocence.
Sentimentality aside, I do believe there is a force of good we cannot see. I think it exists within caring people and special pets and that's why we feel so bereft when they leave us. I believe it exists outside sentient life too but humans have no way of perceiving it without going mad..and whatever cats are able to see they aren't telling! I have also had something happen to me that I can't explain. Nothing supernatural or even particularly interesting, just impossible.
if anyone thinks something of any nature exists that we are unable to see or has had something happen to them that they can't explain I would love to hear! There is a beautiful video of the trusting nature of a cat and a child but will it load? No it will not.
[video=https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W8lZLKgb2KY]
-- Edited by Fluffy on Friday 14th of November 2025 08:13:39 PM
When my mum was in hospital 3 months before she passed, for Christmas I bought her slippers and a radio, She never managed to stand again, so the slippers were never worn, and the transistor radio was never used and still in the box,
After her death, I brought the radio home and put it in a drawer. We had put batteries in it before we gave it, just in case she wanted it by her bedside...but she never did.
A while after her death, my OH came upstairs and said he had heard noises coming out of the drawer...he had a look, and the radio was turned on. No one had been near the drawer it was in, and the radio was still in the box, so how it managed to be playing after weeks was unexplained.
Oddly, it was a cooking programme, and my mum didn't have much interest in cooking.
That to me sounds unexplained considering the radio was in a box and unable to be turned on. But I can understand why you feel it's not significant as what was turned on did not relate to your mother in any way. But it made you think of your Mum. This is the sort of thing that makes me wonder.
I might aswell share my impossible but not particularly interesting story. I was 19 and still infatuated with my ex, the Kurdish bloke I mentioned before who was a few years older than me. We had a horrible phone conversation, I had told my new flatmate he was my boyfriend as he still 'popped round'. She said it to him in passing in a friendly way and he had corrected her bluntly. During this phone convo he ordered me not to lie to anyone else, we were over and basically get a grip.
I had bought a new phone that I had not yet opened. I opened it a few days later but regretted purchasing it, it was clunky looking even for 2003. There was a voicemail on it when I finished charging it. Nobody had this number yet. The voicemail was a portion of the conversation with my ex.
What startled me was how desperate and unhappy I sounded. I sounded like a doormat but just also incredibly sad. I realised I had to let him go and did.But the way I sounded just horrified me.
I played the recording to my friend who believed my ex had to have found my phone.But it has still been in its box, uncharged and more to the point with old fashioned mobiles the number wasn't easy to find. Also it meant he had recorded our conversation in the first place, something he didn't care enough to do. If phones did that then. And why not send it to my normal number?? I saw him to my shame a few times afterwards.He didn't know anything. I didn't ask him.
I was living quite a chaotic existence so this actually happening didn't even phase me. I couldn't stand my desperate shrieking and deleted the voicemail. I can still hear how I sounded now. It helped me move on. My new partner was much kinder and soon after I left London.
Nobody had that phone number or knew I had the phone. But however I got it, I needed to get that. message.
One other thing I can think of. When younger my OH was a deep sleeper. Once asleep he stayed asleep till the alarm.
Early one morning, around 5am, he suddenly woke up, got up, and just went to the window and stood there looking out. He got a phonecall a few hours later, his dad, who hadn't been ill, died unexpectedly in the night....around that time.