I don't believe the majority of people voted Brexit because they listened to Farage, and I don't believe the majority of people who voted Brexit are racists. It's been said on here many times, people who care about uncontrolled immigration, both before and after Brexit, are not racist, but they could see the harm it was doing to the country and thought coming out of the EU would give us more control. (Obviously it didn't)
I feel racism is growing here, from every side, but to use the obviously planned attack today, and say it's idiots who spout race hate on a three bit video are to blame indirectly...is ridiculous.
This latest attack on Jews will be because of what is happening in a country thousands of miles away.
Fluffy said
Oct 2 4:36 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Fluffy, there are also a significant amount of people in this country, either legally or not, who's intent is to do harm. They don't need encouragement from the media or anyone else, they have their plans, and like the Manchester bombers, they will carry them out as and when they can.
Maybe not Syl but at this particular moment in time the establishment is using the media to cause tension between races and I can't help but feel it will embolden people who have prejudices to carry out acts of political violence like the terrible events today.
Every time you turn on the television people are discussing immigrants. What happened to discussing the NHS. The cost of living, checking the conditions of care homes to see our elderly are well looked after. ..nobody cares about anything else anymore.
t saddens me because the establishment is inciting racial violence with its abusive rhetoric and I fear we can expect to see killings of this nature increase. Ten years ago you couldn't talk.about poc the way others openly do now. People used to fear being called a racist..now people fear calling other people racist.
There has always been anti Semitic views held by prejudiced people but I think a murder occurred at this particular time because the current media discourse is one of racial resentment division and loathing and demonizing the "other", any other. I fear this will just be the start.
-- Edited by Fluffy on Thursday 2nd of October 2025 04:40:18 PM
Fluffy said
Oct 2 4:39 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
I don't believe the majority of people voted Brexit because they listened to Farage, and I don't believe the majority of people who voted Brexit are racists. It's been said on here many times, people who care about uncontrolled immigration, both before and after Brexit, are not racist, but they could see the harm it was doing to the country and thought coming out of the EU would give us more control. (Obviously it didn't)
I feel racism is growing here, from every side, but to use the obviously planned attack today, and say it's idiots who spout race hate on a three bit video are to blame indirectly...is ridiculous. This latest attack on Jews will be because of what is happening in a country thousands of miles away.
I didn't blame the "three bit" video and I agree you are probably right regarding the Jewish attack.
Why are you trying to imply the obvious racism depicted on the video is meaningless though. You can't goad people to.be racist unless they are racist.
Red Okktober said
Oct 2 4:42 PM, 2025
That's 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back
I'm still trying to work out what Nigel Farage has got to do with the synagogue attack
Ah, Rupert Lowe, Elon Musk's favourite member of Reform. Lowe also likes far right avtivist Tommy Robinson whilst Farage "didn't consider him suitable for the Reform Party" I agree with Lowe, Tommy would fit right in.
Shame he isn't behaving himself at Reform though-
On 7 March 2025, it was announced that Lowe had been reported to the police by Reform UK after its chairman, the businessman Zia Yusuf, alleged Lowe made verbal threats against him three months and a month previously, in December 2024 and in February 2025 respectively.
[60]] In a January 2020 speech in the European Parliament, he cast doubt on the validity of man-made climate change, calling it a "cult" which "marches on with no definitive evidence to support or deny the factual accuracy of [climate scientists'] assertions
So he doesn't believe in climate change (would get on with Trump at least) and threatens people in his own party a bit.
What else do you like about him Anon?
-- Edited by Fluffy on Wednesday 1st of October 2025 11:36:35 PM
He listens. He donates his MP salary. He supports UK farmers. He is against UK ID cards. He’s pushing as to the grooming gang investigations. He doesn’t want illegals here, given benefits, he wants housing to go to UK nationals, if immigrants can’t/don’t support themselves he wants them out.. He is for retaining the culture and traditions of this country. He wants foreign aid not handed out will-nilly. He wants to ban the burqua and sharia law/courts in the UK. He wants Halal/Kosher methods of slaughter banned in the UK. He recognises 2 genders only…
i could go on.
Plenty there that I agree on?
Oh I'm sure you agree with an MP who was put under investigation.
Most people support UK farmers. Everyone is against I.D cards. There is no sharia law here! It is not his choice to "ban" the Burka.
And then immigrants , benefits, immigrants. Do you know they get free flat screen tele 's aswell? No access to.Sky though, just Freeview. There has got to be limits.
Syl said
Oct 2 4:48 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Syl wrote:
Fluffy, there are also a significant amount of people in this country, either legally or not, who's intent is to do harm. They don't need encouragement from the media or anyone else, they have their plans, and like the Manchester bombers, they will carry them out as and when they can.
Maybe not Syl but at this particular moment in time the establishment is using the media to cause tension between races and I can't help but feel it will embolden people who have prejudices to carry out acts of political violence like the terrible events today.
Every time you turn on the television people are discussing immigrants. What happened to discussing the NHS. The cost of living, checking the conditions of care homes to see our elderly are well looked after. ..nobody cares about anything else anymore.
t saddens me because the establishment is inciting racial violence with its abusive rhetoric and I fear we can expect to see killings of this nature increase. Ten years ago you couldn't talk.about poc the way others openly do now. People used to fear being called a racist..now people fear calling other people racist.
There has always been anti Semitic views held by prejudiced people but I think a murder occurred at this particular time because the current media discourse is one of racial resentment division and loathing and demonizing the "other", any other. I fear this will just be the start.
Jewish people have lived here in peace for decades.
My mum used to live in Crumpsall, I have nephews who go to school around that area, there has never been security needed.... not till the Hamas attack happened in 2023, and the response from Israel.
That is when hatred for jews started, and it spilled over here, where people were chanting for the death of all Jews.
Should the wars not be reported, should people not know what's going on around the world? These events have nothing to do with small minded people spouting rubbish at a Tommy Robinson rally.
Syl said
Oct 2 4:54 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Syl wrote:
I don't believe the majority of people voted Brexit because they listened to Farage, and I don't believe the majority of people who voted Brexit are racists. It's been said on here many times, people who care about uncontrolled immigration, both before and after Brexit, are not racist, but they could see the harm it was doing to the country and thought coming out of the EU would give us more control. (Obviously it didn't)
I feel racism is growing here, from every side, but to use the obviously planned attack today, and say it's idiots who spout race hate on a three bit video are to blame indirectly...is ridiculous. This latest attack on Jews will be because of what is happening in a country thousands of miles away.
I didn't blame the "three bit" video and I agree you are probably right regarding the Jewish attack.
Why are you trying to imply the obvious racism depicted on the video is meaningless though. You can't goad people to.be racist unless they are racist.
No you are right, you can't goad people into being racist, and the few minutes I watched of that link, the people were obviously racist.
But they were cherry-picked just to make the video, as Red said....seriously, could these morons persuade anyone that their way of thinking was right?
Do you actually know anyone who resembles these people, I dont, and I certainly don't live in an ivory tower away from the hoi polloi.
Digger said
Oct 2 4:58 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Syl wrote:
Fluffy, there are also a significant amount of people in this country, either legally or not, who's intent is to do harm. They don't need encouragement from the media or anyone else, they have their plans, and like the Manchester bombers, they will carry them out as and when they can.
Maybe not Syl but at this particular moment in time the establishment is using the media to cause tension between races and I can't help but feel it will embolden people who have prejudices to carry out acts of political violence like the terrible events today.
Every time you turn on the television people are discussing immigrants. What happened to discussing the NHS. The cost of living, checking the conditions of care homes to see our elderly are well looked after. ..nobody cares about anything else anymore.
t saddens me because the establishment is inciting racial violence with its abusive rhetoric and I fear we can expect to see killings of this nature increase. Ten years ago you couldn't talk.about poc the way others openly do now. People used to fear being called a racist..now people fear calling other people racist.
There has always been anti Semitic views held by prejudiced people but I think a murder occurred at this particular time because the current media discourse is one of racial resentment division and loathing and demonizing the "other", any other. I fear this will just be the start.
-- Edited by Fluffy on Thursday 2nd of October 2025 04:40:18 PM
You seem to have conveniently left out the fact that white people, particularly white males, have suffered bigotry and hatred just as much in recent years.
What is happening right now isn't so much about 'hatred' or 'racism'. it's about human nature. This is what happens when society loosens the reins, when things like manners, compassion and respect are allowed to slip; little things that might not seem much but form the bedrock of society and how we interact with each other. This is isn't about a few bad apples. This is about a complete breakdown of humanity. We are literally in danger of going down a rabbit-hole of Neanderthal behaviour, devolving into tribality. Civilised society as we know it is a fragile veneer. If you crack it, it splits apart. The cracks are widening. We see it every single day, yawning wider and wider. From the morons who filmed a dying Iryna Zarutskan to the hive mind of TikTokers to the narcissism of influencers to the two tier policing and so on and so forth on and on ad nauseum.
We need to take a leaf out of Japan's book. Children in Japan are taught morals and character development in school, with moral education being a formal part of the curriculum from elementary school. This includes explicit lessons in values like respect, kindness, and responsibility.
Japan has strict immigration rules.
Digger said
Oct 2 5:02 PM, 2025
Red Okktober wrote:
That's 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back
I'm still trying to work out what Nigel Farage has got to do with the synagogue attack
Just being Nigel Farage is enough, apparently.
Fluffy said
Oct 2 5:02 PM, 2025
Red Okktober wrote:
That's 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back
I'm still trying to work out what Nigel Farage has got to do with the synagogue attack
Nothing, directly. But the establishment and right wing media igniting hatred between races won't have helped. It has created a prejudiced society. I'm sure however it was a planned attack.
Farage is a racist and if you agree with his policies them you are xenophobic at best. You saw nothing wrong with a policy that kicked people out of Britain who considered themselves British, who worked and paid taxes here all their life just because they happened to be born in another country. You are totally ignorant of what would happen to our NHS or care homes of that policy ever occurred. Thankfully it's highly unlikely it will.
As to today's heart breaking events the Jewish community have tried to express fears about rising anti-Semitism in the UK only to be ignored.
I didn't realize this was already posted on another thread.
I'm always torn about this type of uncensored stuff that the mainstream media won't show.
Does the violence makes us want to do something to address it, or desensitize us to violence?
Probably depends on the person watching it..
Maddog said
Oct 2 5:07 PM, 2025
Digger wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Syl wrote:
Fluffy, there are also a significant amount of people in this country, either legally or not, who's intent is to do harm. They don't need encouragement from the media or anyone else, they have their plans, and like the Manchester bombers, they will carry them out as and when they can.
Maybe not Syl but at this particular moment in time the establishment is using the media to cause tension between races and I can't help but feel it will embolden people who have prejudices to carry out acts of political violence like the terrible events today.
Every time you turn on the television people are discussing immigrants. What happened to discussing the NHS. The cost of living, checking the conditions of care homes to see our elderly are well looked after. ..nobody cares about anything else anymore.
t saddens me because the establishment is inciting racial violence with its abusive rhetoric and I fear we can expect to see killings of this nature increase. Ten years ago you couldn't talk.about poc the way others openly do now. People used to fear being called a racist..now people fear calling other people racist.
There has always been anti Semitic views held by prejudiced people but I think a murder occurred at this particular time because the current media discourse is one of racial resentment division and loathing and demonizing the "other", any other. I fear this will just be the start.
-- Edited by Fluffy on Thursday 2nd of October 2025 04:40:18 PM
You seem to have conveniently left out the fact that white people, particularly white males, have suffered bigotry and hatred just as much in recent years.
What is happening right now isn't so much about 'hatred' or 'racism'. it's about human nature. This is what happens when society loosens the reins, when things like manners, compassion and respect are allowed to slip; little things that might not seem much but form the bedrock of society and how we interact with each other. This is isn't about a few bad apples. This is about a complete breakdown of humanity. We are literally in danger of going down a rabbit-hole of Neanderthal behaviour, devolving into tribality. Civilised society as we know it is a fragile veneer. If you crack it, it splits apart. The cracks are widening. We see it every single day, yawning wider and wider. From the morons who filmed a dying Iryna Zarutskan to the hive mind of TikTokers to the narcissism of influencers to the two tier policing and so on and so forth on and on ad nauseum.
We need to take a leaf out of Japan's book. Children in Japan are taught morals and character development in school, with moral education being a formal part of the curriculum from elementary school. This includes explicit lessons in values like respect, kindness, and responsibility.
Japan has strict immigration rules.
What Japan teaches us isn't popular in many circles..
Culture matters.
They don't treat each other with respect because of the law, but their culture..
Maddog said
Oct 2 5:08 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
That's 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back
I'm still trying to work out what Nigel Farage has got to do with the synagogue attack
Nothing, directly. But the establishment and right wing media igniting hatred between races won't have helped. It has created a prejudiced society. I'm sure however it was a planned attack.
Farage is a racist and if you agree with his policies them you are xenophobic at best. You saw nothing wrong with a policy that kicked people out of Britain who considered themselves British, who worked and paid taxes here all their life just because they happened to be born in another country. You are totally ignorant of what would happen to our NHS or care homes of that policy ever occurred. Thankfully it's highly unlikely it will.
As to today's heart breaking events the Jewish community have tried to express fears about rising anti-Semitism in the UK only to be ignored.
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Who put you in charge of labeling people?.
-- Edited by Maddog on Thursday 2nd of October 2025 05:09:29 PM
I didn't realize this was already posted on another thread.
I'm always torn about this type of uncensored stuff that the mainstream media won't show.
Does the violence makes us want to do something to address it, or desensitize us to violence?
Probably depends on the person watching it..
The people who get desensitized will be that way no matter what they see or watch. In a world where we allow our children to view porn and extreme violence in movies and computer games it's a bit rich throwing up hands in horror at this abomination. When atrocities are dragged into the light of day, they can't be ignored as easily as some euphemistic cut version.
There are always going to be different types of people. The ones who are inwardly empathic and spiritual, perhaps not angels but inherently good and decent, and then the ones who embrace their baser nature and are cruel and selfish or the ones who fall between. Good people can do bad things. it takes a lot of inner strength and guts not to run with the herd.
Fluffy said
Oct 2 5:12 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Syl wrote:
I don't believe the majority of people voted Brexit because they listened to Farage, and I don't believe the majority of people who voted Brexit are racists. It's been said on here many times, people who care about uncontrolled immigration, both before and after Brexit, are not racist, but they could see the harm it was doing to the country and thought coming out of the EU would give us more control. (Obviously it didn't)
I feel racism is growing here, from every side, but to use the obviously planned attack today, and say it's idiots who spout race hate on a three bit video are to blame indirectly...is ridiculous. This latest attack on Jews will be because of what is happening in a country thousands of miles away.
I didn't blame the "three bit" video and I agree you are probably right regarding the Jewish attack.
Why are you trying to imply the obvious racism depicted on the video is meaningless though. You can't goad people to.be racist unless they are racist.
No you are right, you can't goad people into being racist, and the few minutes I watched of that link, the people were obviously racist.
But they were cherry-picked just to make the video, as Red said....seriously, could these morons persuade anyone that their way of thinking was right?
Do you actually know anyone who resembles these people, I dont, and I certainly don't live in an ivory tower away from the hoi polloi.
They were not cherry picked. The video creator even showed when a gentleman picked him up on what he was saying. The "morons ' don't have to persuade anyone that their way of thinking is right, they had to be persuaded that the right wing parties care about the lower classes when really it's all about making money . Right wing parties won't put money into the NHS, they want to privatise it. Anything they can't make money out of, they are not interested.
There are millions of people like the one's in.the video in fact that is their main demographic. Working class Reform voters who thinks Farage cares about the quality of their lives. He doesn't, he shares their bigotry and that's it. And once people willingly give up their freedoms just like Brexit It's like turkeys voting for Christmas. But it seems getting rid of immigrants comes before literally everything these days. It's exhausting seeing it in the News every day.
Digger said
Oct 2 5:13 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
That's 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back
I'm still trying to work out what Nigel Farage has got to do with the synagogue attack
Nothing, directly. But the establishment and right wing media igniting hatred between races won't have helped. It has created a prejudiced society. I'm sure however it was a planned attack.
Farage is a racist and if you agree with his policies them you are xenophobic at best. You saw nothing wrong with a policy that kicked people out of Britain who considered themselves British, who worked and paid taxes here all their life just because they happened to be born in another country. You are totally ignorant of what would happen to our NHS or care homes of that policy ever occurred. Thankfully it's highly unlikely it will.
As to today's heart breaking events the Jewish community have tried to express fears about rising anti-Semitism in the UK only to be ignored.
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Who put you in charge of labeling people?.
-- Edited by Maddog on Thursday 2nd of October 2025 05:09:29 PM
Don't bite. it's what she does.
Magica said
Oct 2 5:17 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
That's 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back
I'm still trying to work out what Nigel Farage has got to do with the synagogue attack
Nothing, directly. But the establishment and right wing media igniting hatred between races won't have helped. It has created a prejudiced society. I'm sure however it was a planned attack.
Farage is a racist and if you agree with his policies them you are xenophobic at best. You saw nothing wrong with a policy that kicked people out of Britain who considered themselves British, who worked and paid taxes here all their life just because they happened to be born in another country. You are totally ignorant of what would happen to our NHS or care homes of that policy ever occurred. Thankfully it's highly unlikely it will.
As to today's heart breaking events the Jewish community have tried to express fears about rising anti-Semitism in the UK only to be ignored.
Right wing?? It was nutty Starmer screaming about Farage, nothing about what he is going to do with bills, housing etc. He was trying to get division from lefties to have a go at Farage and anyone who disagrees with him.
Farage is not a racist,nor are the people who want their country back! They're not called racist in France, Spain, Italy and other countries, why us.
Starmer is racist to pander to illegals and not care about the Brits who were born and bred here. Sooner he goes the better!
Fluffy said
Oct 2 5:19 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
That's 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back
I'm still trying to work out what Nigel Farage has got to do with the synagogue attack
Nothing, directly. But the establishment and right wing media igniting hatred between races won't have helped. It has created a prejudiced society. I'm sure however it was a planned attack.
Farage is a racist and if you agree with his policies them you are xenophobic at best. You saw nothing wrong with a policy that kicked people out of Britain who considered themselves British, who worked and paid taxes here all their life just because they happened to be born in another country. You are totally ignorant of what would happen to our NHS or care homes of that policy ever occurred. Thankfully it's highly unlikely it will.
As to today's heart breaking events the Jewish community have tried to express fears about rising anti-Semitism in the UK only to be ignored.
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Who put you in charge of labeling people?.
-- Edited by Maddog on Thursday 2nd of October 2025 05:09:29 PM
Farage 's policies are transparently bigoted and even Syl has agreed Reform would appeal to racists. . Even our wet lettuce of a PM has said Reform holds racist immoral policies.
Do you even KNOW his policies? You thought Charlie Kirk 's views were standard Christian views and I can assure you, they were not.
Syl said
Oct 2 5:21 PM, 2025
There are too many subjects being talked about on the same page. Grooming gangs, todays horrific terrorist attacks and the way white males have been treated by society and their reaction to it.
None of these things are related..the whole thread is now confusing.
I don't believe the majority of people voted Brexit because they listened to Farage, and I don't believe the majority of people who voted Brexit are racists. It's been said on here many times, people who care about uncontrolled immigration, both before and after Brexit, are not racist, but they could see the harm it was doing to the country and thought coming out of the EU would give us more control. (Obviously it didn't)
I feel racism is growing here, from every side, but to use the obviously planned attack today, and say it's idiots who spout race hate on a three bit video are to blame indirectly...is ridiculous.
This latest attack on Jews will be because of what is happening in a country thousands of miles away.
Maybe not Syl but at this particular moment in time the establishment is using the media to cause tension between races and I can't help but feel it will embolden people who have prejudices to carry out acts of political violence like the terrible events today.
Every time you turn on the television people are discussing immigrants. What happened to discussing the NHS. The cost of living, checking the conditions of care homes to see our elderly are well looked after. ..nobody cares about anything else anymore.
t saddens me because the establishment is inciting racial violence with its abusive rhetoric and I fear we can expect to see killings of this nature increase. Ten years ago you couldn't talk.about poc the way others openly do now. People used to fear being called a racist..now people fear calling other people racist.
There has always been anti Semitic views held by prejudiced people but I think a murder occurred at this particular time because the current media discourse is one of racial resentment division and loathing and demonizing the "other", any other. I fear this will just be the start.
-- Edited by Fluffy on Thursday 2nd of October 2025 04:40:18 PM
I didn't blame the "three bit" video and I agree you are probably right regarding the Jewish attack.
Why are you trying to imply the obvious racism depicted on the video is meaningless though. You can't goad people to.be racist unless they are racist.
I'm still trying to work out what Nigel Farage has got to do with the synagogue attack
Oh I'm sure you agree with an MP who was put under investigation.
Most people support UK farmers. Everyone is against I.D cards. There is no sharia law here! It is not his choice to "ban" the Burka.
And then immigrants , benefits, immigrants. Do you know they get free flat screen tele 's aswell? No access to.Sky though, just Freeview. There has got to be limits.
Jewish people have lived here in peace for decades.
My mum used to live in Crumpsall, I have nephews who go to school around that area, there has never been security needed.... not till the Hamas attack happened in 2023, and the response from Israel.
That is when hatred for jews started, and it spilled over here, where people were chanting for the death of all Jews.
Should the wars not be reported, should people not know what's going on around the world? These events have nothing to do with small minded people spouting rubbish at a Tommy Robinson rally.
No you are right, you can't goad people into being racist, and the few minutes I watched of that link, the people were obviously racist.
But they were cherry-picked just to make the video, as Red said....seriously, could these morons persuade anyone that their way of thinking was right?
Do you actually know anyone who resembles these people, I dont, and I certainly don't live in an ivory tower away from the hoi polloi.
You seem to have conveniently left out the fact that white people, particularly white males, have suffered bigotry and hatred just as much in recent years.
What is happening right now isn't so much about 'hatred' or 'racism'. it's about human nature. This is what happens when society loosens the reins, when things like manners, compassion and respect are allowed to slip; little things that might not seem much but form the bedrock of society and how we interact with each other. This is isn't about a few bad apples. This is about a complete breakdown of humanity. We are literally in danger of going down a rabbit-hole of Neanderthal behaviour, devolving into tribality. Civilised society as we know it is a fragile veneer. If you crack it, it splits apart. The cracks are widening. We see it every single day, yawning wider and wider. From the morons who filmed a dying Iryna Zarutskan to the hive mind of TikTokers to the narcissism of influencers to the two tier policing and so on and so forth on and on ad nauseum.
We need to take a leaf out of Japan's book. Children in Japan are taught morals and character development in school, with moral education being a formal part of the curriculum from elementary school. This includes explicit lessons in values like respect, kindness, and responsibility.
Japan has strict immigration rules.
Just being Nigel Farage is enough, apparently.
Nothing, directly. But the establishment and right wing media igniting hatred between races won't have helped. It has created a prejudiced society. I'm sure however it was a planned attack.
Farage is a racist and if you agree with his policies them you are xenophobic at best. You saw nothing wrong with a policy that kicked people out of Britain who considered themselves British, who worked and paid taxes here all their life just because they happened to be born in another country. You are totally ignorant of what would happen to our NHS or care homes of that policy ever occurred. Thankfully it's highly unlikely it will.
As to today's heart breaking events the Jewish community have tried to express fears about rising anti-Semitism in the UK only to be ignored.
I didn't realize this was already posted on another thread.
I'm always torn about this type of uncensored stuff that the mainstream media won't show.
Does the violence makes us want to do something to address it, or desensitize us to violence?
Probably depends on the person watching it..
What Japan teaches us isn't popular in many circles..
Culture matters.
They don't treat each other with respect because of the law, but their culture..
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Who put you in charge of labeling people?.
-- Edited by Maddog on Thursday 2nd of October 2025 05:09:29 PM
The people who get desensitized will be that way no matter what they see or watch. In a world where we allow our children to view porn and extreme violence in movies and computer games it's a bit rich throwing up hands in horror at this abomination. When atrocities are dragged into the light of day, they can't be ignored as easily as some euphemistic cut version.
There are always going to be different types of people. The ones who are inwardly empathic and spiritual, perhaps not angels but inherently good and decent, and then the ones who embrace their baser nature and are cruel and selfish or the ones who fall between. Good people can do bad things. it takes a lot of inner strength and guts not to run with the herd.
They were not cherry picked. The video creator even showed when a gentleman picked him up on what he was saying. The "morons ' don't have to persuade anyone that their way of thinking is right, they had to be persuaded that the right wing parties care about the lower classes when really it's all about making money . Right wing parties won't put money into the NHS, they want to privatise it. Anything they can't make money out of, they are not interested.
There are millions of people like the one's in.the video in fact that is their main demographic. Working class Reform voters who thinks Farage cares about the quality of their lives. He doesn't, he shares their bigotry and that's it. And once people willingly give up their freedoms just like Brexit It's like turkeys voting for Christmas. But it seems getting rid of immigrants comes before literally everything these days. It's exhausting seeing it in the News every day.
Don't bite. it's what she does.
Right wing?? It was nutty Starmer screaming about Farage, nothing about what he is going to do with bills, housing etc. He was trying to get division from lefties to have a go at Farage and anyone who disagrees with him.
Farage is not a racist,nor are the people who want their country back! They're not called racist in France, Spain, Italy and other countries, why us.
Starmer is racist to pander to illegals and not care about the Brits who were born and bred here. Sooner he goes the better!
Farage 's policies are transparently bigoted and even Syl has agreed Reform would appeal to racists. . Even our wet lettuce of a PM has said Reform holds racist immoral policies.
Do you even KNOW his policies? You thought Charlie Kirk 's views were standard Christian views and I can assure you, they were not.
None of these things are related..the whole thread is now confusing.