These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Maddog wrote:
Fuck me you're a hyperbolic drama queen..
BTW, are you a POC or a white man?
Maddog wrote:
"Great Minds Discuss Ideas.
Average Minds Discuss Events.
Small Minds Discuss People."
You said it buddy.
Maddog said
Oct 2 11:06 PM, 2025
"Police said they believe the attacker, who was shot dead at the scene, was Jihad Al-Shamie, 35, a British citizen of Syrian descent."
He had an accurate first name..
Syl said
Oct 3 12:35 PM, 2025
I didn't know this but many synagogues have had to increase their security over the last two years. They are the only religious group in the UK that need to do this.People throughout Salford and Manchester have been talking today about how they have expected something like this to happen for a long time, one said it's like we are being persecuted again just like we were in the 1930's and 40's.
How dare people come to this country as a minority group, and start wars on another minority group that have settled here peacefully for decades.
Magica said
Oct 3 1:54 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
I didn't know this but many synagogues have had to increase their security over the last two years. They are the only religious group in the UK that need to do this.People throughout Salford and Manchester have been talking today about how they have expected something like this to happen for a long time, one said it's like we are being persecuted again just like we were in the 1930's and 40's.
How dare people come to this country as a minority group, and start wars on another minority group that have settled here peacefully for decades.
I know Syl, yet what will Starmer do about it, nothing.
The jews should feel safe here, but too many Muslims are making it scary for them.
This is England not Pakistan!
Barksdale said
Oct 3 2:31 PM, 2025
Magica wrote:
I didn't see this and was accused of ignoring you. I don't do that.
The killing of jews which Starmer hasn't helped by backing Palestine. I've nothing against them, but this was always going to.happen.
So much hate since Starmer been PM.
No worries at all. I don't expect anyone to respond to all or any of my posts. Ain't no one got time for that. Post as you see fit.
I think you are right that the Government has handled the situation poorly when it comes to the ongoing tensions arising from the Israel / Gaza conflict. Ordinarily I would say that we should preserve people's right to protect peacefully but it does seem that this is driving violence and it has gone way too far.
That's my fear when it comes to people like Tommy Robinson or if Reform get into power. If you inflame tensions through political rhetoric or are passive as a Government when it comes to dealing with escalating racial tensions then ordinary people from minority communities will bear the brunt of the violence which could arise.
I think, much like following the death of Charlie Kirk, is that we should try to find ways to come together and reduce the temperature rather than the opposite. I am not optimistic that will happen however because where there is anger there is a route to political power.
Barksdale said
Oct 3 2:32 PM, 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Maddog wrote:
Fuck me you're a hyperbolic drama queen..
BTW, are you a POC or a white man?
Maddog wrote:
"Great Minds Discuss Ideas.
Average Minds Discuss Events.
Small Minds Discuss People."
You said it buddy.
Bravo Guest, bravo.
Digger said
Oct 3 4:24 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
I didn't know this but many synagogues have had to increase their security over the last two years. They are the only religious group in the UK that need to do this.People throughout Salford and Manchester have been talking today about how they have expected something like this to happen for a long time, one said it's like we are being persecuted again just like we were in the 1930's and 40's.
How dare people come to this country as a minority group, and start wars on another minority group that have settled here peacefully for decades.
For too long our Government has pandered to muslims. I have no idea exactly why that is, as they don't seem to do it equally to all minorities but it has to stop. The first thing to go should be the marches. Outlaw any marches that incite hate and violence.
Maddog said
Oct 3 5:15 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
I didn't know this but many synagogues have had to increase their security over the last two years. They are the only religious group in the UK that need to do this.People throughout Salford and Manchester have been talking today about how they have expected something like this to happen for a long time, one said it's like we are being persecuted again just like we were in the 1930's and 40's.
How dare people come to this country as a minority group, and start wars on another minority group that have settled here peacefully for decades.
Most of our synagogues have armed guards now..
Thanks to the peace loving fools in kefiyahs..
Maddog said
Oct 3 5:23 PM, 2025
Barksdale wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Maddog wrote:
Fuck me you're a hyperbolic drama queen..
BTW, are you a POC or a white man?
Maddog wrote:
"Great Minds Discuss Ideas.
Average Minds Discuss Events.
Small Minds Discuss People."
You said it buddy.
Bravo Guest, bravo.
I wasn't off though..😉
As Vam has experienced, sometimes you just have to question the sanity of people making things up. You let them in your head.
I'll redouble my efforts to simplify address the crazy and inaccurate comments without labeling the source of those comments..
Fluffy said
Oct 3 5:36 PM, 2025
Barksdale wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Maddog wrote:
Fuck me you're a hyperbolic drama queen..
BTW, are you a POC or a white man?
Maddog wrote:
"Great Minds Discuss Ideas.
Average Minds Discuss Events.
Small Minds Discuss People."
You said it buddy.
Bravo Guest, bravo.
If you have something to say to me Barksdale, say it directly. I have never said a bad word to you.
I recall when Faithy said I had down' s syndrome on Dogs and everyone was shocked you were the only one who said "Who cares what Fluffy thinks".
You pretend to be left wing and caring and your a fake. Not worth anyone's time.
Anonymous said
Oct 3 5:50 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Barksdale wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Maddog wrote:
Fuck me you're a hyperbolic drama queen..
BTW, are you a POC or a white man?
Maddog wrote:
"Great Minds Discuss Ideas.
Average Minds Discuss Events.
Small Minds Discuss People."
You said it buddy.
Bravo Guest, bravo.
If you have something to say to me Barksdale, say it directly. I have never said a bad word to you.
I recall when Faithy said I had down' s syndrome on Dogs and everyone was shocked you were the only one who said "Who cares what Fluffy thinks".
You pretend to be left wing and caring and your a fake. Not worth anyone's time.
AGAIN, tryre-reading the posts fgs. I initially thought English was your second language as your posts generally don’t relate to folks’ posts and gave you the benefit of the doubt but nowI have a feeling you’re trolling which is a shame because there are some interesting discussions which, for whatever reason, you seem to enjoy disrupting.
Fluffy said
Oct 3 6:02 PM, 2025
Syl wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
That's 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back
I'm still trying to work out what Nigel Farage has got to do with the synagogue attack
Nothing, directly. But the establishment and right wing media igniting hatred between races won't have helped. It has created a prejudiced society. I'm sure however it was a planned attack.
Farage is a racist and if you agree with his policies them you are xenophobic at best. You saw nothing wrong with a policy that kicked people out of Britain who considered themselves British, who worked and paid taxes here all their life just because they happened to be born in another country. You are totally ignorant of what would happen to our NHS or care homes of that policy ever occurred. Thankfully it's highly unlikely it will.
As to today's heart breaking events the Jewish community have tried to express fears about rising anti-Semitism in the UK only to be ignored.
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Who put you in charge of labeling people?.
-- Edited by Maddog on Thursday 2nd of October 2025 05:09:29 PM
Farage 's policies are transparently bigoted and even Syl has agreed Reform would appeal to racists. . Even our wet lettuce of a PM has said Reform holds racist immoral policies.
Do you even KNOW his policies? You thought Charlie Kirk 's views were standard Christian views and I can assure you, they were not.
The classic 'triangulation' ploy.
Yep, I did say the racists will vote for Reform, of course they will.
So will the millions of none racists who see the country going from bad to worse and want a change.
In recent history we have had just two parties alternating being in government...not surprising millions will vote in a new contender when they get the chance.
(Unless Andy manages to oust Starmer, which is my hope)
It is my hope too! I'm.not sure why you are using because you held that view quite openly ..?
.I do agree with Red (yes I said that !) that it's not feasible to call Reform 's policies racist but to disagree that the person who made the aforementioned policies is also racist. Starmer felt he had to decline but I wish he had gone further and admitted he felt Farage and a proportion of their voters are racist because that's most likely to be the truth.
I would say a significant proportion of Reform voters are racist but the people who.want change but don't necessarily agree with everything Farage says are not prejudiced. They are just frustrated and see no other option. But there is four years to go and that thankfully is a long time ago.
I used the because I was determined not to add anything else in this thread, but I hate not responding when someone directly quotes me.
Anyway, I have said my piece now, so off for a bit of R&R after being stuck in all day whilst a plumber has been banging and clattering away upstairs...only to have to return tomorrow.
Sorry Syl, I got a bit carried away yesterday. I will consider you don't like to be quoted in future.
I was in error yesterday. Of course not everybody who.votes Reform is racist and I don't actually think Red is. There is a huge immigration problem in this country and some people want it solved no matter what it takes . I just worry that Farage is untrustworthy and also the individuals in that video would vote for Farage and definitely WERE racist. I think people are fed up of thinking Britain is a soft touch and I do concede that something has to.be done.
Like yourself, I hope Andy Burnham becomes PM as I believe he has integrity , and truly cares about people's concerns.
I read on another thread about the plumbing nightmare you are enduring! I am sorry and hope it gets sorted out. It's a nightmare when things like that happen, especially when you think the bloke has fixed it.
Fluffy said
Oct 3 6:28 PM, 2025
Maddog wrote:
Barksdale wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Maddog wrote:
Fuck me you're a hyperbolic drama queen..
BTW, are you a POC or a white man?
Maddog wrote:
"Great Minds Discuss Ideas.
Average Minds Discuss Events.
Small Minds Discuss People."
You said it buddy.
Bravo Guest, bravo.
I wasn't off though..😉
As Vam has experienced, sometimes you just have to question the sanity of people making things up. You let them in your head.
I'll redouble my efforts to simplify address the crazy and inaccurate comments without labeling the source of those comments..
Stop talking in riddles. Sounds like PM's have been flying. It's like being round kids .. Except despite your attempts to gaslight I know I'm.not crazy. . I have been on forums where I was accepted and got on with everybody and know I am entitled to my own opinion just as much as everyone else. Until yesterday, I have not been erratic on this forum.
Firstly, I don't think Red is a racist . You waded in white knighting him. I do think.a vast proportion of those who.vote for Reform are racist but don't think Red is. Do I agree with his opinions? Not all of them, of course not. However many people are directly affected by immigrants and feel.their country and culture has changed. I do understand that.
As to your other weird comments, Digger said that white men also suffer the effects of racism. I disagreed saying they couldn't conceive of the prejudices black men experience. You.waded in again asking "Are you a POC or a white man??" Why didn't you ask Digger that as she was talking about the experiences of white men without being one..But you clearly didn't follow the dialogue.
As to your last quote, a well known adage, it's difficult not to discuss ideologies without mentioning the people relevant to the discussion. For example if people are concerned about immigration and mention how Starmer is not solving the problem ,do they have small minds for discussing him.at length when it relates to their concerns,? Nope.
As for the code between you and Barksdale, it's a little immature for grown men but whatever makes you happy I guess..!
Anonymous said
Oct 3 6:53 PM, 2025
“ Synagogue attacker was on bail for rape - police source
published at 17:51
17:51BREAKING
Synagogue attacker Jihad Al-Shamie had been arrested for rape and was on police bail when he carried out the killings in Manchester, a police source tells BBC News.
“Jihad Al-Shamie, 35, was arrested on suspicion of rape. He was currently on bail at the time of yesterday's attack. He was not charged with the rape,” the source says.”
source BBC
Anonymous said
Oct 3 7:36 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Barksdale wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Maddog wrote:
Fuck me you're a hyperbolic drama queen..
BTW, are you a POC or a white man?
Maddog wrote:
"Great Minds Discuss Ideas.
Average Minds Discuss Events.
Small Minds Discuss People."
You said it buddy.
Bravo Guest, bravo.
I wasn't off though..😉
As Vam has experienced, sometimes you just have to question the sanity of people making things up. You let them in your head.
I'll redouble my efforts to simplify address the crazy and inaccurate comments without labeling the source of those comments..
Stop talking in riddles. Sounds like PM's have been flying. It's like being round kids .. Except despite your attempts to gaslight I know I'm.not crazy. . I have been on forums where I was accepted and got on with everybody and know I am entitled to my own opinion just as much as everyone else. Until yesterday, I have not been erratic on this forum.
Firstly, I don't think Red is a racist . You waded in white knighting him. I do think.a vast proportion of those who.vote for Reform are racist but don't think Red is. Do I agree with his opinions? Not all of them, of course not. However many people are directly affected by immigrants and feel.their country and culture has changed. I do understand that.
As to your other weird comments, Digger said that white men also suffer the effects of racism. I disagreed saying they couldn't conceive of the prejudices black men experience. You.waded in again asking "Are you a POC or a white man??" Why didn't you ask Digger that as she was talking about the experiences of white men without being one..But you clearly didn't follow the dialogue.
As to your last quote, a well known adage, it's difficult not to discuss ideologies without mentioning the people relevant to the discussion. For example if people are concerned about immigration and mention how Starmer is not solving the problem ,do they have small minds for discussing him.at length when it relates to their concerns,? Nope.
As for the code between you and Barksdale, it's a little immature for grown men but whatever makes you happy I guess..!
Xxx
Digger said
Oct 3 8:02 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Stop talking in riddles. Sounds like PM's have been flying. It's like being round kids .. Except despite your attempts to gaslight I know I'm.not crazy. . I have been on forums where I was accepted and got on with everybody and know I am entitled to my own opinion just as much as everyone else. Until yesterday, I have not been erratic on this forum.
Firstly, I don't think Red is a racist . You waded in white knighting him. I do think.a vast proportion of those who.vote for Reform are racistbut don't think Red is. Do I agree with his opinions? Not all of them, of course not. However many people are directly affected by immigrants and feel.their country and culture has changed. I do understand that.
As to your other weird comments, Digger said that white men also suffer the effects of racism. I disagreed saying they couldn't conceive of the prejudices black men experience. You.waded in again asking "Are you a POC or a white man??" Why didn't you ask Digger that as she was talking about the experiences of white men without being one..But you clearly didn't follow the dialogue.
As to your last quote, a well known adage, it's difficult not to discuss ideologies without mentioning the people relevant to the discussion. For example if people are concerned about immigration and mention how Starmer is not solving the problem ,do they have small minds for discussing him.at length when it relates to their concerns,? Nope.
As for the code between you and Barksdale, it's a little immature for grown men but whatever makes you happy I guess..!
So you think that 24 million Brits are racist? That's the figure of the 35 percent currently wanting to vote Reform.
Barksdale said
Oct 3 8:22 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Barksdale wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Maddog wrote:
Fuck me you're a hyperbolic drama queen..
BTW, are you a POC or a white man?
Maddog wrote:
"Great Minds Discuss Ideas.
Average Minds Discuss Events.
Small Minds Discuss People."
You said it buddy.
Bravo Guest, bravo.
If you have something to say to me Barksdale, say it directly. I have never said a bad word to you.
I recall when Faithy said I had down' s syndrome on Dogs and everyone was shocked you were the only one who said "Who cares what Fluffy thinks".
You pretend to be left wing and caring and your a fake. Not worth anyone's time.
Read the exchange again. I was congratulating Guest on their takedown of Maddog. On the other thread he had posted that "small minds discuss people" yet the other comments Guest put down of his in relation to you shows him doing exactly that. I assumed that's why Guest put those collection of quotes togther.
You don't need to worry. If I have something to say to someone I will tell them directly. I take this opportunity to do so with you.
I cannot recall that exchange with Faithy at all or the context of what I said. If what you say is correct then I apologise as I shouldn't have belittled you or made you feel bad.
There is something I do remember, however. When you left Dogs you went to Bitchfest and you happily denigerated me on a couple of occasions with your new friends. When you say you have never said a bad word against me that simply is not true.
There's also something else I remember. From the day you left Dogs to now, irrespective of your actions on BF, I have never attacked your character. I am capable of leaving the past behind without harbouring ill will or resentment and move on. It appears you, however, cannot.
I have no interest in interacting with someone who cannot treat me with a modicum of courtesy and insists on dredging up historic nonsense.
I won't post with you directly in the future and I would be grateful if you could do the same.
I think I'll watch the Bournemouth game now as there are better things to do on a Friday night.
Red Okktober said
Oct 3 8:40 PM, 2025
Are you a Bournemouth fan Avon?
PM me if you don't want to admit to it in public.
Maddog said
Oct 3 9:28 PM, 2025
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Barksdale wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
These are the sort of declarations that make you look like a damn fool..
Maddog wrote:
Fuck me you're a hyperbolic drama queen..
BTW, are you a POC or a white man?
Maddog wrote:
"Great Minds Discuss Ideas.
Average Minds Discuss Events.
Small Minds Discuss People."
You said it buddy.
Bravo Guest, bravo.
I wasn't off though..😉
As Vam has experienced, sometimes you just have to question the sanity of people making things up. You let them in your head.
I'll redouble my efforts to simplify address the crazy and inaccurate comments without labeling the source of those comments..
Stop talking in riddles. Sounds like PM's have been flying. It's like being round kids .. Except despite your attempts to gaslight I know I'm.not crazy. . I have been on forums where I was accepted and got on with everybody and know I am entitled to my own opinion just as much as everyone else. Until yesterday, I have not been erratic on this forum.
Firstly, I don't think Red is a racist . You waded in white knighting him. I do think.a vast proportion of those who.vote for Reform are racist but don't think Red is. Do I agree with his opinions? Not all of them, of course not. However many people are directly affected by immigrants and feel.their country and culture has changed. I do understand that.
As to your other weird comments, Digger said that white men also suffer the effects of racism. I disagreed saying they couldn't conceive of the prejudices black men experience. You.waded in again asking "Are you a POC or a white man??" Why didn't you ask Digger that as she was talking about the experiences of white men without being one..But you clearly didn't follow the dialogue.
As to your last quote, a well known adage, it's difficult not to discuss ideologies without mentioning the people relevant to the discussion. For example if people are concerned about immigration and mention how Starmer is not solving the problem ,do they have small minds for discussing him.at length when it relates to their concerns,? Nope.
As for the code between you and Barksdale, it's a little immature for grown men but whatever makes you happy I guess..!
Maddog wrote:
"Great Minds Discuss Ideas.
Average Minds Discuss Events.
Small Minds Discuss People."
You said it buddy.
He had an accurate first name..
How dare people come to this country as a minority group, and start wars on another minority group that have settled here peacefully for decades.
I know Syl, yet what will Starmer do about it, nothing.
The jews should feel safe here, but too many Muslims are making it scary for them.
This is England not Pakistan!
No worries at all. I don't expect anyone to respond to all or any of my posts. Ain't no one got time for that. Post as you see fit.
I think you are right that the Government has handled the situation poorly when it comes to the ongoing tensions arising from the Israel / Gaza conflict. Ordinarily I would say that we should preserve people's right to protect peacefully but it does seem that this is driving violence and it has gone way too far.
That's my fear when it comes to people like Tommy Robinson or if Reform get into power. If you inflame tensions through political rhetoric or are passive as a Government when it comes to dealing with escalating racial tensions then ordinary people from minority communities will bear the brunt of the violence which could arise.
I think, much like following the death of Charlie Kirk, is that we should try to find ways to come together and reduce the temperature rather than the opposite. I am not optimistic that will happen however because where there is anger there is a route to political power.
Bravo Guest, bravo.
For too long our Government has pandered to muslims. I have no idea exactly why that is, as they don't seem to do it equally to all minorities but it has to stop. The first thing to go should be the marches. Outlaw any marches that incite hate and violence.
Most of our synagogues have armed guards now..
Thanks to the peace loving fools in kefiyahs..
I wasn't off though..😉
As Vam has experienced, sometimes you just have to question the sanity of people making things up. You let them in your head.
I'll redouble my efforts to simplify address the crazy and inaccurate comments without labeling the source of those comments..
If you have something to say to me Barksdale, say it directly. I have never said a bad word to you.
I recall when Faithy said I had down' s syndrome on Dogs and everyone was shocked you were the only one who said "Who cares what Fluffy thinks".
You pretend to be left wing and caring and your a fake. Not worth anyone's time.
AGAIN, try re-reading the posts fgs. I initially thought English was your second language as your posts generally don’t relate to folks’ posts and gave you the benefit of the doubt but now I have a feeling you’re trolling which is a shame because there are some interesting discussions which, for whatever reason, you seem to enjoy disrupting.
Sorry Syl, I got a bit carried away yesterday. I will consider you don't like to be quoted in future.
I was in error yesterday. Of course not everybody who.votes Reform is racist and I don't actually think Red is. There is a huge immigration problem in this country and some people want it solved no matter what it takes . I just worry that Farage is untrustworthy and also the individuals in that video would vote for Farage and definitely WERE racist. I think people are fed up of thinking Britain is a soft touch and I do concede that something has to.be done.
Like yourself, I hope Andy Burnham becomes PM as I believe he has integrity , and truly cares about people's concerns.
I read on another thread about the plumbing nightmare you are enduring! I am sorry and hope it gets sorted out. It's a nightmare when things like that happen, especially when you think the bloke has fixed it.
Stop talking in riddles. Sounds like PM's have been flying. It's like being round kids .. Except despite your attempts to gaslight I know I'm.not crazy. . I have been on forums where I was accepted and got on with everybody and know I am entitled to my own opinion just as much as everyone else. Until yesterday, I have not been erratic on this forum.
Firstly, I don't think Red is a racist . You waded in white knighting him. I do think.a vast proportion of those who.vote for Reform are racist but don't think Red is. Do I agree with his opinions? Not all of them, of course not. However many people are directly affected by immigrants and feel.their country and culture has changed. I do understand that.
As to your other weird comments, Digger said that white men also suffer the effects of racism. I disagreed saying they couldn't conceive of the prejudices black men experience. You.waded in again
asking "Are you a POC or a white man??" Why didn't you ask Digger that as she was talking about the experiences of white men without being one..But you clearly didn't follow the dialogue.
As to your last quote, a well known adage, it's difficult not to discuss ideologies without mentioning the people relevant to the discussion. For example if people are concerned about immigration and mention how Starmer is not solving the problem ,do they have small minds for discussing him.at length when it relates to their concerns,? Nope.
As for the code between you and Barksdale, it's a little immature for grown men but whatever makes you happy I guess..!
“ Synagogue attacker was on bail for rape - police source
published at 17:51
Synagogue attacker Jihad Al-Shamie had been arrested for rape and was on police bail when he carried out the killings in Manchester, a police source tells BBC News.
“Jihad Al-Shamie, 35, was arrested on suspicion of rape. He was currently on bail at the time of yesterday's attack. He was not charged with the rape,” the source says.”
source BBC
Xxx
So you think that 24 million Brits are racist? That's the figure of the 35 percent currently wanting to vote Reform.
Read the exchange again. I was congratulating Guest on their takedown of Maddog. On the other thread he had posted that "small minds discuss people" yet the other comments Guest put down of his in relation to you shows him doing exactly that. I assumed that's why Guest put those collection of quotes togther.
You don't need to worry. If I have something to say to someone I will tell them directly. I take this opportunity to do so with you.
I cannot recall that exchange with Faithy at all or the context of what I said. If what you say is correct then I apologise as I shouldn't have belittled you or made you feel bad.
There is something I do remember, however. When you left Dogs you went to Bitchfest and you happily denigerated me on a couple of occasions with your new friends. When you say you have never said a bad word against me that simply is not true.
There's also something else I remember. From the day you left Dogs to now, irrespective of your actions on BF, I have never attacked your character. I am capable of leaving the past behind without harbouring ill will or resentment and move on. It appears you, however, cannot.
I have no interest in interacting with someone who cannot treat me with a modicum of courtesy and insists on dredging up historic nonsense.
I won't post with you directly in the future and I would be grateful if you could do the same.
I think I'll watch the Bournemouth game now as there are better things to do on a Friday night.
PM me if you don't want to admit to it in public.
🙄