It starts with a knock. Someone in your family opens the door, because you’re old, most likely over 80, certainly poor, possibly infirm, probably a minority. You see a familiar face. She is a community organizer, young, passionate. She has come by often, campaigning for Obama or Wendy Davis. Today she comes bearing a fruit basket, because she wants to help. She’s also kind enough to carry in your mail.
It just so happens that today’s mail brings a large envelope. The envelope contains a letter from the Secretary of State, who thanks you for doing your civic duty. There are pages of instructions in English and Spanish. There is a mail-in ballot for early voting. There is a carrier envelope that must be signed and used to deliver the ballot. The nice woman with the fruit asks if you’d like some help filling out your ballot. Of course you would. It’s all very confusing. She asks you to sign on the envelope and says she’ll take care of the rest.
That’s one scenario. The details can change. The harvesters who show up just as your ballot is delivered, maybe they have to ask you if you’ve already brought your ballot inside. Maybe they find the package in the mailbox, put it on a clipboard, and ask you to sign your name to the carrier envelope for some bogus reason. Maybe you never vote, so these harvesters just take your ballot out of the mailbox for themselves—and you never miss it.
Why are these big envelopes being sent to many people who didn’t even request a mail-in ballot? Because before these ballots were harvested, these precincts were “seeded.” Large batches of applications for ballots, stuffed in manila envelopes, had arrived at the county elections office, each request with a name from voter lists that had also been requested from said office. That elections office alerted harvesters to when the precincts would receive their ballots by mail, so the nice woman with the fruit would know when to have her basket ready.
Much more at the link. This explains why mail in ballots can be so problematic. And with the Rona, they are several times higher in number this year in many states.
Those tales are about the harvesters. They’re the minnows. The big fish, the people who organize and pay for these operations, they’re the big prize. Hooking those big fish has been Aaron Harris’ mission ever since he ran a small campaign in Tarrant County in 2015 and saw his candidate lose the day-of election 52–48 percent, but get smoked by a nearly 4–1 margin in mail-in votes. The next day, Fort Worth reporters suggested to him that these sorts of “inorganic” mail-in ballot totals are just how it goes in Fort Worth politics. “The third member of the media that called,” Harris says. “She said, ‘Well, have you figured it out yet?’ I literally stood up so fast out of my chair my knee sent my chair flying. I just started screaming and cussing at this reporter. I said, ‘If everybody knows there’s some bullshit going on, why aren’t y’all figuring it out? Why aren’t you doing your damn job?’ ”
Syl said
Nov 6 5:42 PM, 2020
So are ordinary citizens warned this can happen, made aware that the less active or maybe the ones losing a few of their faculties can be duped in this way?
Thanks for the info. In Britain we have too many people talking nonsense and only saying things that they have heard other people saying on the mainstream media.
The Trump phenomena has turned various academics into obvious emotive idiots and has revealed the state of academia in many subject fields especially non "hard" science subjects. When I look around social media I see a lot of otherwise "intelligent" and middle class people, even some that are devout atheists, lose their mind over Trump. I wish people just report on what can be reported without imposing their own distorted opinion as fact.
In Britain the BBC is supposed to be "neutral" but it is not. There is no impartial reporting from the BBC - everything has to be bent into the BBC narrative, a narrative that can be found in the ideologically captured ivory towers of public universities.
John Doe said
Nov 6 6:46 PM, 2020
The only corruption I can see is the rights desperate attempts to smear the results of the election, independent academic study after academic study has proved voter fraud is miniscule and the reason for postal ballots is so that the poor, vulnerable sick or infirm can vote more easily- especially in COVID which has been forgotten atm, nearly a quarter of a million dead in the US and counting.
Oh and why is it always the Democrats who are seen as corrupt just because the Trump worshipper's orange God says so with no evidence at all?
The endless conspiracy theories are laughable.
Only Rethuglicans votes are seen as pure by some because most of them have no trouble getting to the ballot box.
Well the good old boy's have lost this one despite their endless (and utterly futile) prayers and Joe will now win.
Tough shit.
-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 6th of November 2020 06:53:13 PM
Anonymous said
Nov 6 7:05 PM, 2020
John Doe wrote:
The only corruption I can see is the rights desperate attempts to smear the results of the election, independent academic study after academic study has proved voter fraud is miniscule and the reason for postal ballots is so that the poor, vulnerable sick or infirm can vote more easily...
Tough shit.
-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 6th of November 2020 06:53:13 PM
There has been no academic study because it is happening right now. Counts stopped on the evening of 3 November. You have lost your mind when it comes to "politics". Yet when it comes to immigration and Islam you can be described by others in going to the opposite extreme. You can be described as "far left" or "far right" depending on the issue.
Anyway what you say and what I say is just noise. Maddog lives in the US you don't and nor do I. My issue is with the culture war which coupled with Big Tech is heading towards a big brother form of socialism where thought is controlled and we have the brainwashed mob crowd of the middle classes.
Message to Maddog: what are your views of The Daily Wire, Blaze TV, Project Veritas? Blaze TV developed a model (color revolution) which can be used to explain many of the things that has been going on around the world.
Maddog said
Nov 6 8:08 PM, 2020
John Doe wrote:
The only corruption I can see is the rights desperate attempts to smear the results of the election, independent academic study after academic study has proved voter fraud is miniscule and the reason for postal ballots is so that the poor, vulnerable sick or infirm can vote more easily- especially in COVID which has been forgotten atm, nearly a quarter of a million dead in the US and counting.
Oh and why is it always the Democrats who are seen as corrupt just because the Trump worshipper's orange God says so with no evidence at all?
The endless conspiracy theories are laughable.
Only Rethuglicans votes are seen as pure by some because most of them have no trouble getting to the ballot box.
Well the good old boy's have lost this one despite their endless (and utterly futile) prayers and Joe will now win.
Tough shit.
-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 6th of November 2020 06:53:13 PM
Did you read anything in the article at all?
Maddog said
Nov 6 8:12 PM, 2020
Syl wrote:
So are ordinary citizens warned this can happen, made aware that the less active or maybe the ones losing a few of their faculties can be duped in this way?
It's amazing how little is reported about vote harvesting. And the person having their vote harvested doesn't really care in most cases.
I can't find the article, but there were once about 50 people registered to the same house.
Mail in ballots are a mess.
Anonymous said
Nov 7 2:43 PM, 2020
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
So are ordinary citizens warned this can happen, made aware that the less active or maybe the ones losing a few of their faculties can be duped in this way?
It's amazing how little is reported about vote harvesting. And the person having their vote harvested doesn't really care in most cases.
I can't find the article, but there were once about 50 people registered to the same house.
Mail in ballots are a mess.
Convincing. Not.
Anonymous said
Nov 7 4:04 PM, 2020
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
So are ordinary citizens warned this can happen, made aware that the less active or maybe the ones losing a few of their faculties can be duped in this way?
It's amazing how little is reported about vote harvesting. And the person having their vote harvested doesn't really care in most cases.
I can't find the article, but there were once about 50 people registered to the same house.
Mail in ballots are a mess.
Convincing. Not.
The evidence is irrefutable.
Maddog said
Nov 7 4:05 PM, 2020
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
The only corruption I can see is the rights desperate attempts to smear the results of the election, independent academic study after academic study has proved voter fraud is miniscule and the reason for postal ballots is so that the poor, vulnerable sick or infirm can vote more easily...
Tough shit.
-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 6th of November 2020 06:53:13 PM
There has been no academic study because it is happening right now. Counts stopped on the evening of 3 November. You have lost your mind when it comes to "politics". Yet when it comes to immigration and Islam you can be described by others in going to the opposite extreme. You can be described as "far left" or "far right" depending on the issue.
Anyway what you say and what I say is just noise. Maddog lives in the US you don't and nor do I. My issue is with the culture war which coupled with Big Tech is heading towards a big brother form of socialism where thought is controlled and we have the brainwashed mob crowd of the middle classes.
Message to Maddog: what are your views of The Daily Wire, Blaze TV, Project Veritas? Blaze TV developed a model (color revolution) which can be used to explain many of the things that has been going on around the world.
I read some of their stuff. Don't watch TV news really.
I follow a lot of news sites. Even if I think they are slanted because they are all slanted. That slant causes them to cover one topic well, while ignoring another. Mail in ballots are a good example. Much of the media says there is no fraud. The media that looks in to it, knows better.
I do follow Eric July on Facebook and YouTube. Apparently he has show at Blaze TV now.
Anonymous said
Nov 7 4:42 PM, 2020
Maddog wrote:
I read some of their stuff. Don't watch TV news really.
I follow a lot of news sites. Even if I think they are slanted because they are all slanted. That slant causes them to cover one topic well, while ignoring another. Mail in ballots are a good example. Much of the media says there is no fraud. The media that looks in to it, knows better.
I do follow Eric July on Facebook and YouTube. Apparently he has show at Blaze TV now.
I don't think I had come across Eric July but I have now. Just looked at a youtube video he downloaded after the 2016 US election and he seems to be on point with his message. Trump is not a politician, many Republicans didn't like him and the Democrats presented him as the anti-Christ. There was even the anti-Trump protestors including the feminists and the white social justice warriors. At that time I think Black Lives Matter was a tiny movement.
Anonymous said
Nov 7 5:20 PM, 2020
John Doe said
Nov 7 7:36 PM, 2020
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe said
Nov 7 7:38 PM, 2020
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
The only corruption I can see is the rights desperate attempts to smear the results of the election, independent academic study after academic study has proved voter fraud is miniscule and the reason for postal ballots is so that the poor, vulnerable sick or infirm can vote more easily...
Tough shit.
-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 6th of November 2020 06:53:13 PM
There has been no academic study because it is happening right now. Counts stopped on the evening of 3 November. You have lost your mind when it comes to "politics". Yet when it comes to immigration and Islam you can be described by others in going to the opposite extreme. You can be described as "far left" or "far right" depending on the issue.
Anyway what you say and what I say is just noise. Maddog lives in the US you don't and nor do I. My issue is with the culture war which coupled with Big Tech is heading towards a big brother form of socialism where thought is controlled and we have the brainwashed mob crowd of the middle classes.
Message to Maddog: what are your views of The Daily Wire, Blaze TV, Project Veritas? Blaze TV developed a model (color revolution) which can be used to explain many of the things that has been going on around the world.
I form my own opinion on matters whether 'left' or 'right' it matters not and the terms are far too vague anyway.
As for losing my mind do me a fucking favour, the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.
-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
Anonymous said
Nov 7 7:59 PM, 2020
John Doe wrote:
... the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.
-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
I have mentioned no conspiracy theories. That you "see" conspiracy theory in what I wrote is something to do with you and not me. That you tell me I have to "deal with it" also tells me something about you and not me. I am not American, it has no impact on me apart from gaining insight into society and people. Does it impact on you in anyway? You do seem to have become emotionally invested in all of this judging by your comments and this seems to affect you in the way you perceive others and their comments. Yet if we were talking about science or quantum mechanics or the origins of the universe I am sure your approach would switch into a different mode.
John Doe said
Nov 7 11:47 PM, 2020
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
... the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.
-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
I have mentioned no conspiracy theories. That you "see" conspiracy theory in what I wrote is something to do with you and not me. That you tell me I have to "deal with it" also tells me something about you and not me. I am not American, it has no impact on me apart from gaining insight into society and people. Does it impact on you in anyway? You do seem to have become emotionally invested in all of this judging by your comments and this seems to affect you in the way you perceive others and their comments. Yet if we were talking about science or quantum mechanics or the origins of the universe I am sure your approach would switch into a different mode.
How do I know who you are or where you come from?
You are posting under anonymity and I am not psychic.
I care about the environment and Climate Change so yes it does impact me and the rest of the world for that matter who the leader of the most powerful country on the planet is.
-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 11:48:39 PM
Maddog said
Nov 8 5:46 AM, 2020
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
... the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.
-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
I have mentioned no conspiracy theories. That you "see" conspiracy theory in what I wrote is something to do with you and not me. That you tell me I have to "deal with it" also tells me something about you and not me. I am not American, it has no impact on me apart from gaining insight into society and people. Does it impact on you in anyway? You do seem to have become emotionally invested in all of this judging by your comments and this seems to affect you in the way you perceive others and their comments. Yet if we were talking about science or quantum mechanics or the origins of the universe I am sure your approach would switch into a different mode.
How do I know who you are or where you come from?
You are posting under anonymity and I am not psychic.
I care about the environment and Climate Change so yes it does impact me and the rest of the world for that matter who the leader of the most powerful country on the planet is.
-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 11:48:39 PM
No it doesn't. The rest of the world will do whatever it wants. They might take our money, then do whatever is best for them. But make no mistake about these agreements. They are a joke. Like the useless nations and the WHO.
If people actually listened to us, there would be peace throughout the world. But they don't, and there isn't.
It starts with a knock. Someone in your family opens the door, because you’re old, most likely over 80, certainly poor, possibly infirm, probably a minority. You see a familiar face. She is a community organizer, young, passionate. She has come by often, campaigning for Obama or Wendy Davis. Today she comes bearing a fruit basket, because she wants to help. She’s also kind enough to carry in your mail.
It just so happens that today’s mail brings a large envelope. The envelope contains a letter from the Secretary of State, who thanks you for doing your civic duty. There are pages of instructions in English and Spanish. There is a mail-in ballot for early voting. There is a carrier envelope that must be signed and used to deliver the ballot. The nice woman with the fruit asks if you’d like some help filling out your ballot. Of course you would. It’s all very confusing. She asks you to sign on the envelope and says she’ll take care of the rest.
That’s one scenario. The details can change. The harvesters who show up just as your ballot is delivered, maybe they have to ask you if you’ve already brought your ballot inside. Maybe they find the package in the mailbox, put it on a clipboard, and ask you to sign your name to the carrier envelope for some bogus reason. Maybe you never vote, so these harvesters just take your ballot out of the mailbox for themselves—and you never miss it.
Why are these big envelopes being sent to many people who didn’t even request a mail-in ballot? Because before these ballots were harvested, these precincts were “seeded.” Large batches of applications for ballots, stuffed in manila envelopes, had arrived at the county elections office, each request with a name from voter lists that had also been requested from said office. That elections office alerted harvesters to when the precincts would receive their ballots by mail, so the nice woman with the fruit would know when to have her basket ready.
https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2017/august/how-dallas-city-council-elections-work-fraud-mail-in-ballot/
Much more at the link. This explains why mail in ballots can be so problematic. And with the Rona, they are several times higher in number this year in many states.
Devious stuff. Check this out as well
https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-trump-campaign-strategy-to-deter-millions-of-black-americans-from-voting-in-2016
Thanks for the info. In Britain we have too many people talking nonsense and only saying things that they have heard other people saying on the mainstream media.
The Trump phenomena has turned various academics into obvious emotive idiots and has revealed the state of academia in many subject fields especially non "hard" science subjects. When I look around social media I see a lot of otherwise "intelligent" and middle class people, even some that are devout atheists, lose their mind over Trump. I wish people just report on what can be reported without imposing their own distorted opinion as fact.
In Britain the BBC is supposed to be "neutral" but it is not. There is no impartial reporting from the BBC - everything has to be bent into the BBC narrative, a narrative that can be found in the ideologically captured ivory towers of public universities.
The only corruption I can see is the rights desperate attempts to smear the results of the election, independent academic study after academic study has proved voter fraud is miniscule and the reason for postal ballots is so that the poor, vulnerable sick or infirm can vote more easily- especially in COVID which has been forgotten atm, nearly a quarter of a million dead in the US and counting.
Oh and why is it always the Democrats who are seen as corrupt just because the Trump worshipper's orange God says so with no evidence at all?
The endless conspiracy theories are laughable.
Only Rethuglicans votes are seen as pure by some because most of them have no trouble getting to the ballot box.
Well the good old boy's have lost this one despite their endless (and utterly futile) prayers and Joe will now win.
Tough shit.
-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 6th of November 2020 06:53:13 PM
There has been no academic study because it is happening right now. Counts stopped on the evening of 3 November. You have lost your mind when it comes to "politics". Yet when it comes to immigration and Islam you can be described by others in going to the opposite extreme. You can be described as "far left" or "far right" depending on the issue.
Anyway what you say and what I say is just noise. Maddog lives in the US you don't and nor do I. My issue is with the culture war which coupled with Big Tech is heading towards a big brother form of socialism where thought is controlled and we have the brainwashed mob crowd of the middle classes.
Message to Maddog: what are your views of The Daily Wire, Blaze TV, Project Veritas? Blaze TV developed a model (color revolution) which can be used to explain many of the things that has been going on around the world.
Did you read anything in the article at all?
It's amazing how little is reported about vote harvesting. And the person having their vote harvested doesn't really care in most cases.
I can't find the article, but there were once about 50 people registered to the same house.
Mail in ballots are a mess.
Convincing. Not.
The evidence is irrefutable.
I read some of their stuff. Don't watch TV news really.
I follow a lot of news sites. Even if I think they are slanted because they are all slanted. That slant causes them to cover one topic well, while ignoring another. Mail in ballots are a good example. Much of the media says there is no fraud. The media that looks in to it, knows better.
I do follow Eric July on Facebook and YouTube. Apparently he has show at Blaze TV now.
I don't think I had come across Eric July but I have now. Just looked at a youtube video he downloaded after the 2016 US election and he seems to be on point with his message. Trump is not a politician, many Republicans didn't like him and the Democrats presented him as the anti-Christ. There was even the anti-Trump protestors including the feminists and the white social justice warriors. At that time I think Black Lives Matter was a tiny movement.
I form my own opinion on matters whether 'left' or 'right' it matters not and the terms are far too vague anyway.
As for losing my mind do me a fucking favour, the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.
-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
I have mentioned no conspiracy theories. That you "see" conspiracy theory in what I wrote is something to do with you and not me. That you tell me I have to "deal with it" also tells me something about you and not me. I am not American, it has no impact on me apart from gaining insight into society and people. Does it impact on you in anyway? You do seem to have become emotionally invested in all of this judging by your comments and this seems to affect you in the way you perceive others and their comments. Yet if we were talking about science or quantum mechanics or the origins of the universe I am sure your approach would switch into a different mode.
How do I know who you are or where you come from?
You are posting under anonymity and I am not psychic.
I care about the environment and Climate Change so yes it does impact me and the rest of the world for that matter who the leader of the most powerful country on the planet is.
-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 11:48:39 PM
No it doesn't. The rest of the world will do whatever it wants. They might take our money, then do whatever is best for them. But make no mistake about these agreements. They are a joke. Like the useless nations and the WHO.
If people actually listened to us, there would be peace throughout the world. But they don't, and there isn't.