That's what the Deputy Procurator Fiscal and the defence were arguing about at Lanark Sheriff Court yesterday when Joseph Kelly's case was heard.
The Fiscal pointed out if Kelly had shouted the things he posted in the street, he would have been arrested for breach of the peace, so posting them online was no different.
Whereas Kelly's Lawyer said the post on Twitter was unpleasant and unsavoury but not 'Grossly Offensive'
It makes you wonder what he would regard as offensive.
Kelly made the post the day after Sir Tom died last year.
The Sheriff agreed with the Fiscal and found Kelly guilty and Kelly now faces six months in jail or a five thousand pound fine or both.
He gets sentenced in March and most people convicted under the same offence have usually been jailed for between six and ten weeks.
Hopefully he will get jail AND fined.
Six months in jail might get a bit of his flab off too...win, win.
Magica said
Feb 1 6:30 PM, 2022
Stick fatty in prison! He'll meet some nice prisoners to call names to. 😉
Anonymous said
Feb 1 8:49 PM, 2022
Magica wrote:
Stick fatty in prison! He'll meet some nice prisoners to call names to. 😉
Looks like that twisted degenerate fuck Purr
The kind of thing he'd post
Syl said
Feb 5 5:28 PM, 2022
Another example... Grossly offensive or freedom of speech?
Jimmy Carr, in his stand-up routine now showing on Netflix.
"When people talk about the Holocaust, they talk about the tragedy and horror of six million Jewish lives being lost to the Nazi war machine. But they never mention the thousands of gypsies that were killed by the Nazis. No one ever talks about that because no one wants to talk about the positives."
Vita said
Feb 6 6:51 AM, 2022
Syl wrote:
Another example... Grossly offensive or freedom of speech?
Jimmy Carr, in his stand-up routine now showing on Netflix.
"When people talk about the Holocaust, they talk about the tragedy and horror of six million Jewish lives being lost to the Nazi war machine. But they never mention the thousands of gypsies that were killed by the Nazis. No one ever talks about that because no one wants to talk about the positives."
That's offensive, in my opinion.
He made sick remarks about children with Downs Syndrome years ago.
He's about as funny as toothache.
Anonymous said
Feb 6 11:50 AM, 2022
Everyone's humour is very different. Don't like a comedian because you don't like their material?, it's very simple. Don't go see them or watch anything with them in. its clear many do like it because if they didn't these comedians would just vanish
Where do we draw a line in what they can and cannot joke about? If we censor what we don't like, rather than not watching, then soon everything will be censored.
Anyway, for me, many comedians get away with telling the truth that no one else can. not talking about the type of joke Digger posted its not for me either
One of the worlds best IMO
https://youtu.be/Hy-sVByUHqE
Magica said
Feb 7 12:09 AM, 2022
Syl wrote:
Another example... Grossly offensive or freedom of speech?
Jimmy Carr, in his stand-up routine now showing on Netflix.
"When people talk about the Holocaust, they talk about the tragedy and horror of six million Jewish lives being lost to the Nazi war machine. But they never mention the thousands of gypsies that were killed by the Nazis. No one ever talks about that because no one wants to talk about the positives."
I don't find it funny. Gypsies, disabled, babies, jews, all murdered in those camps. Millions of people. How's that a joke?
Maddog said
Feb 7 5:37 PM, 2022
Freedom of speech is designed to protect offensive speech. You don't need laws protecting people's right to say "puppies are cute". You need laws for freedom of speech when people are offended.
You need to protect the people from the government throwing them in jail over words.
I don't know who this fat fucker is, but I want the ability to call him a fat worthless fucker, no matter who it offends.
Syl said
Feb 7 5:42 PM, 2022
Maddog wrote:
Freedom of speech is designed to protect offensive speech. You don't need laws protecting people's right to say "puppies are cute". You need laws for freedom of speech when people are offended.
You need to protect the people from the government throwing them in jail over words.
I don't know who this fat fucker is, but I want the ability to call him a fat worthless fucker, no matter who it offends.
I think so far the government has it right to suggest people boycott Carr....boycotting is better than banning.
Let people make their own minds up as to what they find acceptable or not.
Maddog said
Feb 7 7:26 PM, 2022
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Freedom of speech is designed to protect offensive speech. You don't need laws protecting people's right to say "puppies are cute". You need laws for freedom of speech when people are offended.
You need to protect the people from the government throwing them in jail over words.
I don't know who this fat fucker is, but I want the ability to call him a fat worthless fucker, no matter who it offends.
I think so far the government has it right to suggest people boycott Carr....boycotting is better than banning.
Let people make their own minds up as to what they find acceptable or not.
The government needs to stay out of determining mean words. Go fix a road or a bridge or some shit.
Syl said
Feb 7 7:55 PM, 2022
The law decides whether something is grossly offensive and deemed to be breaking the law, or whether something is just in bad taste, governments pass those laws, so it's not that easy to say, go fix a road or build a bridge.
Digger said
Feb 7 9:11 PM, 2022
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Freedom of speech is designed to protect offensive speech. You don't need laws protecting people's right to say "puppies are cute". You need laws for freedom of speech when people are offended.
You need to protect the people from the government throwing them in jail over words.
I don't know who this fat fucker is, but I want the ability to call him a fat worthless fucker, no matter who it offends.
I think so far the government has it right to suggest people boycott Carr....boycotting is better than banning.
Let people make their own minds up as to what they find acceptable or not.
The government needs to stay out of determining mean words. Go fix a road or a bridge or some shit.
There's mean words and then there's downright sick in the head.
Maddog said
Feb 8 1:22 AM, 2022
Syl wrote:
The law decides whether something is grossly offensive and deemed to be breaking the law, or whether something is just in bad taste, governments pass those laws, so it's not that easy to say, go fix a road or build a bridge.
Sure it is. Stop passing dumb laws about words and go do your job.
Maddog said
Feb 8 1:25 AM, 2022
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Freedom of speech is designed to protect offensive speech. You don't need laws protecting people's right to say "puppies are cute". You need laws for freedom of speech when people are offended.
You need to protect the people from the government throwing them in jail over words.
I don't know who this fat fucker is, but I want the ability to call him a fat worthless fucker, no matter who it offends.
I think so far the government has it right to suggest people boycott Carr....boycotting is better than banning.
Let people make their own minds up as to what they find acceptable or not.
The government needs to stay out of determining mean words. Go fix a road or a bridge or some shit.
There's mean words and then there's downright sick in the head.
It's all relative. There are words that can be used to incite violence, and those are the only ones that should be limited.
Dark humor should never be legislated in a free country.
Vita said
Feb 8 1:32 AM, 2022
According to Jimmy Carr the Hillsborough Disaster is the only thing in the UK you can't joke about.
The Dunblane Massacre is a possibility because most things heal with time and according to him, Hillsborough is the only thing that hasn't.
I don't think the mass shooting of all those small children and their teacher will ever 'Heal with time'
He daren't touch Hillborough because it would cause too much backlash, but everything else is fair game? Fucking tosser.
Aye apparently that's out of bounds but everything else is fair game.
He's sick in the head.
Digger said
Feb 11 3:31 PM, 2022
Vita wrote:
That's what the Deputy Procurator Fiscal and the defence were arguing about at Lanark Sheriff Court yesterday when Joseph Kelly's case was heard.
The Fiscal pointed out if Kelly had shouted the things he posted in the street, he would have been arrested for breach of the peace, so posting them online was no different.
Whereas Kelly's Lawyer said the post on Twitter was unpleasant and unsavoury but not 'Grossly Offensive'
It makes you wonder what he would regard as offensive.
Kelly made the post the day after Sir Tom died last year.
The Sheriff agreed with the Fiscal and found Kelly guilty and Kelly now faces six months in jail or a five thousand pound fine or both.
He gets sentenced in March and most people convicted under the same offence have usually been jailed for between six and ten weeks.
That's what the Deputy Procurator Fiscal and the defence were arguing about at Lanark Sheriff Court yesterday when Joseph Kelly's case was heard.
The Fiscal pointed out if Kelly had shouted the things he posted in the street, he would have been arrested for breach of the peace, so posting them online was no different.
Whereas Kelly's Lawyer said the post on Twitter was unpleasant and unsavoury but not 'Grossly Offensive'
It makes you wonder what he would regard as offensive.
Kelly made the post the day after Sir Tom died last year.
The Sheriff agreed with the Fiscal and found Kelly guilty and Kelly now faces six months in jail or a five thousand pound fine or both.
He gets sentenced in March and most people convicted under the same offence have usually been jailed for between six and ten weeks.
Tom Moore tweet that said 'the only good Brit soldier is deed one' 'left a bad taste', court hears | Daily Mail Online
Who do you agree with?
-- Edited by Vita on Tuesday 1st of February 2022 06:21:59 AM
Aye 36 stone maybe but 36 years old?
Aye right!!
Six months in jail might get a bit of his flab off too...win, win.
Looks like that twisted degenerate fuck Purr
The kind of thing he'd post
Another example...
Grossly offensive or freedom of speech?
Jimmy Carr, in his stand-up routine now showing on Netflix.
"When people talk about the Holocaust, they talk about the tragedy and horror of six million Jewish lives being lost to the Nazi war machine. But they never mention the thousands of gypsies that were killed by the Nazis.
No one ever talks about that because no one wants to talk about the positives."
That's offensive, in my opinion.
He made sick remarks about children with Downs Syndrome years ago.
He's about as funny as toothache.
Everyone's humour is very different. Don't like a comedian because you don't like their material?, it's very simple. Don't go see them or watch anything with them in. its clear many do like it because if they didn't these comedians would just vanish
Where do we draw a line in what they can and cannot joke about? If we censor what we don't like, rather than not watching, then soon everything will be censored.
Anyway, for me, many comedians get away with telling the truth that no one else can. not talking about the type of joke Digger posted its not for me either
One of the worlds best IMO
https://youtu.be/Hy-sVByUHqE
I don't find it funny. Gypsies, disabled, babies, jews, all murdered in those camps. Millions of people. How's that a joke?
You need to protect the people from the government throwing them in jail over words.
I don't know who this fat fucker is, but I want the ability to call him a fat worthless fucker, no matter who it offends.
I think so far the government has it right to suggest people boycott Carr....boycotting is better than banning.
Let people make their own minds up as to what they find acceptable or not.
The government needs to stay out of determining mean words. Go fix a road or a bridge or some shit.
There's mean words and then there's downright sick in the head.
Sure it is. Stop passing dumb laws about words and go do your job.
It's all relative. There are words that can be used to incite violence, and those are the only ones that should be limited.
Dark humor should never be legislated in a free country.
According to Jimmy Carr the Hillsborough Disaster is the only thing in the UK you can't joke about.
Jimmy Carr: Hillsborough is the only subject I won't joke about (inews.co.uk)
The Dunblane Massacre is a possibility because most things heal with time and according to him, Hillsborough is the only thing that hasn't.
I don't think the mass shooting of all those small children and their teacher will ever 'Heal with time'
He daren't touch Hillborough because it would cause too much backlash, but everything else is fair game? Fucking tosser.
Aye apparently that's out of bounds but everything else is fair game.
He's sick in the head.
The irony here is that this fat twat could have ended up as a bar of soap if the Nazi's had won and he'd been around at that time.