According to Fox News the people behind regime change in Iraq are now pushing for Regime Change in Russia. A Ukrainian - Russian peace agreement in April 2022 was stopped by Biden using Boris Johson as emissary according to this claim.
I would be interested in hearing an American view of the following claim.
Maddog said
Sep 23 12:49 PM, 2022
Sounds like a bunch of hearsay to me.
Show me some documents. Personally I believe Putin will never negotiate a withdrawal. That was never an option. It's basically a defeat and he can't have that..
That war probably doesn't end until he assumes room temperature.
Anonymous said
Sep 23 3:12 PM, 2022
Maddog wrote:
Sounds like a bunch of hearsay to me.
Show me some documents. Personally I believe Putin will never negotiate a withdrawal. That was never an option. It's basically a defeat and he can't have that..
That war probably doesn't end until he assumes room temperature.
What does a defeat look like for Putin, and what will Putin do when faced with that defeat and what do you want the US Presidential Administration to do in that situation? In the UK we are just sort of sitting on the sidelines with people that are poor not being able to feed and warm themselves, we just would like to know what the big players might do in this - such as the USA - and whether something like a first strike on Moscow to take out Putin is a possibility.
Maddog said
Sep 23 8:57 PM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Sounds like a bunch of hearsay to me.
Show me some documents. Personally I believe Putin will never negotiate a withdrawal. That was never an option. It's basically a defeat and he can't have that..
That war probably doesn't end until he assumes room temperature.
What does a defeat look like for Putin, and what will Putin do when faced with that defeat and what do you want the US Presidential Administration to do in that situation? In the UK we are just sort of sitting on the sidelines with people that are poor not being able to feed and warm themselves, we just would like to know what the big players might do in this - such as the USA - and whether something like a first strike on Moscow to take out Putin is a possibility.
Defeat for Putin is not controlling Ukraine. That's why I don't believe for a second that he agreed to leave if Ukraine stayed out of NATO.
We are not going to strike anyone unless a NATO member is attacked. Moscow is off the table unless we have a few rounds of nuclear exchanges.
There is no appetite for escalation over here.
There is none in Russia outside of the Kremlin either. The borders are packed with young men fleeing before they are drafted and sent to Ukraine with winter approaching.
Putin is desperate. I have to think he's smart enough to not go nuclear. But he's isolated and acting a little crazy..
Guess we will see..🤷♂️
Anonymous said
Sep 24 9:59 AM, 2022
In the UK we are banned from viewing Russian state television and Russian supported media - we are IP blocked. Do you in America have access to this media?
In the UK it is very difficult to know what is happening in Russia, what the Russian people think, what their economy is like etc because everything we see and hear comes through a small window that is selected, packaged and contextualized.
The same is true when I try to understand what is going on in America - at least here I have access to American media - but that is still selected and packaged by American media - and doesn't necessarily tell me what Americans on the ground think and how they view things. This is one of the potential advantages of the internet.
Maddog said
Sep 24 7:33 PM, 2022
Anonymous wrote:
In the UK we are banned from viewing Russian state television and Russian supported media - we are IP blocked. Do you in America have access to this media?
In the UK it is very difficult to know what is happening in Russia, what the Russian people think, what their economy is like etc because everything we see and hear comes through a small window that is selected, packaged and contextualized.
The same is true when I try to understand what is going on in America - at least here I have access to American media - but that is still selected and packaged by American media - and doesn't necessarily tell me what Americans on the ground think and how they view things. This is one of the potential advantages of the internet.
You don't need Russian state supported TV to know what's happening in Russia. There are plenty of other sources outside of Russia, and they aren't state supported..
Its the same we we got to see a lot of the destruction in Ukraine..
According to Fox News the people behind regime change in Iraq are now pushing for Regime Change in Russia. A Ukrainian - Russian peace agreement in April 2022 was stopped by Biden using Boris Johson as emissary according to this claim.
I would be interested in hearing an American view of the following claim.
Show me some documents. Personally I believe Putin will never negotiate a withdrawal. That was never an option. It's basically a defeat and he can't have that..
That war probably doesn't end until he assumes room temperature.
What does a defeat look like for Putin, and what will Putin do when faced with that defeat and what do you want the US Presidential Administration to do in that situation? In the UK we are just sort of sitting on the sidelines with people that are poor not being able to feed and warm themselves, we just would like to know what the big players might do in this - such as the USA - and whether something like a first strike on Moscow to take out Putin is a possibility.
Defeat for Putin is not controlling Ukraine. That's why I don't believe for a second that he agreed to leave if Ukraine stayed out of NATO.
We are not going to strike anyone unless a NATO member is attacked. Moscow is off the table unless we have a few rounds of nuclear exchanges.
There is no appetite for escalation over here.
There is none in Russia outside of the Kremlin either. The borders are packed with young men fleeing before they are drafted and sent to Ukraine with winter approaching.
Putin is desperate. I have to think he's smart enough to not go nuclear. But he's isolated and acting a little crazy..
Guess we will see..🤷♂️
In the UK we are banned from viewing Russian state television and Russian supported media - we are IP blocked. Do you in America have access to this media?
In the UK it is very difficult to know what is happening in Russia, what the Russian people think, what their economy is like etc because everything we see and hear comes through a small window that is selected, packaged and contextualized.
The same is true when I try to understand what is going on in America - at least here I have access to American media - but that is still selected and packaged by American media - and doesn't necessarily tell me what Americans on the ground think and how they view things. This is one of the potential advantages of the internet.
You don't need Russian state supported TV to know what's happening in Russia. There are plenty of other sources outside of Russia, and they aren't state supported..
Its the same we we got to see a lot of the destruction in Ukraine..