The Oscar winning actor cried in court as he was found not guilty of the charges.
I hope he can rebuild his career.
Magica said
Jul 26 3:45 PM, 2023
Vita wrote:
Has been cleared of sexually assaulting four men.
The Oscar winning actor cried in court as he was found not guilty of the charges.
I hope he can rebuild his career.
Just because.he's cleared doesn't make.him innocent. I really hope he is, if so, can make a go of his career.
Syl said
Jul 26 3:59 PM, 2023
Amazing what a good legal team can do.
There have been many accusations against Spacey, dating back to 1986, are all these young boys and adult men lying?
Many accused Saville of sexual abuse, and none of them were taken seriously either. I wonder had Saville ever been charged, whether he also would have walked free in court?
Money and power, having the right legal team, and the right people in your pocket, and people can and do get away with murder...and rape etc.
-- Edited by Syl on Wednesday 26th of July 2023 04:20:44 PM
Maddog said
Jul 26 5:27 PM, 2023
Syl wrote:
Amazing what a good legal team can do.
There have been many accusations against Spacey, dating back to 1986, are all these young boys and adult men lying?
Many accused Saville of sexual abuse, and none of them were taken seriously either. I wonder had Saville ever been charged, whether he also would have walked free in court?
Money and power, having the right legal team, and the right people in your pocket, and people can and do get away with murder...and rape etc.
-- Edited by Syl on Wednesday 26th of July 2023 04:20:44 PM
Money also makes you a target for folks wanting a payoff.
There were no boys involved in these accusations but grown ass men who willingly hung out with a gay man that was interested in them..
Was he too aggressive?
Maybe.
Gay men often come on very strong towards other gay men.
Sorta like straight men do with ladies.
Was there ever a time these men couldn't just get up and walk out the door?
Syl said
Jul 26 5:33 PM, 2023
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Amazing what a good legal team can do.
There have been many accusations against Spacey, dating back to 1986, are all these young boys and adult men lying?
Many accused Saville of sexual abuse, and none of them were taken seriously either. I wonder had Saville ever been charged, whether he also would have walked free in court?
Money and power, having the right legal team, and the right people in your pocket, and people can and do get away with murder...and rape etc.
-- Edited by Syl on Wednesday 26th of July 2023 04:20:44 PM
Money also makes you a target for folks wanting a payoff.
There were no boys involved in these accusations but grown ass men who willingly hung out with a gay man that was interested in them..
Was he too aggressive?
Maybe.
Gay men often come on very strong towards other gay men.
Sorta like straight men do with ladies.
Was there ever a time these men couldn't just get up and walk out the door?
One of the accusers was 14 when he said Spacey abused him.
I have no doubt some people will crawl out of the woodwork when they think they can make money out of a celeb, I also have no doubt that many people are disbelieved when they should be believed.
Didn't four of his accusers die suddenly just as all this publicity broke in the States?
There have been many accusations against Spacey, dating back to 1986, are all these young boys and adult men lying?
Many accused Saville of sexual abuse, and none of them were taken seriously either. I wonder had Saville ever been charged, whether he also would have walked free in court?
Money and power, having the right legal team, and the right people in your pocket, and people can and do get away with murder...and rape etc.
-- Edited by Syl on Wednesday 26th of July 2023 04:20:44 PM
Money also makes you a target for folks wanting a payoff.
There were no boys involved in these accusations but grown ass men who willingly hung out with a gay man that was interested in them..
Was he too aggressive?
Maybe.
Gay men often come on very strong towards other gay men.
Sorta like straight men do with ladies.
Was there ever a time these men couldn't just get up and walk out the door?
One of the accusers was 14 when he said Spacey abused him.
I have no doubt some people will crawl out of the woodwork when they think they can make money out of a celeb, I also have no doubt that many people are disbelieved when they should be believed.
Didn't four of his accusers die suddenly just as all this publicity broke in the States?
Well, if he's 14, that's different..
Why weren't charges about indecency with a minor brought up?
I don't really follow Hollywood stuff so I can't speak of the 4 you mention.
All I know is what I read today which amounts to some cases of groping and one case where Spacey said they had a great night of consensual sex..
I do know there are some playmates suing old Heffs estate because they now regret the sex they had with a creepy old guy..🤷♂️
Syl said
Jul 26 6:06 PM, 2023
I never followed the Spacey case either, it's the various reports that are coming out now.
Re Playmates....I don't doubt some of them were there because of the prestige they thought it brought them, if they chose to have sex with a creepy old guy, that's their choice...IF they were of legal age.
Digger said
Jul 26 6:40 PM, 2023
I think these people are arrogant and think they're above everyone else. He's always struck me as a pompous superior bitchy type. Perhaps he didn't actually do anything other than flirt inappropriately. But I bet he was a narcissistic bastard to deal with.
Maddog said
Jul 26 8:13 PM, 2023
Digger wrote:
I think these people are arrogant and think they're above everyone else. He's always struck me as a pompous superior bitchy type. Perhaps he didn't actually do anything other than flirt inappropriately. But I bet he was a narcissistic bastard to deal with.
That's likely true. Years of adulation will do that to people.
In the Spacey case I'm reminded of groupies and bands..
Who's at fault what happens backstage. Those folks chasing or the folks who get off on being chased?
It's a dance that often leads to encounters where someone is being taken advantage of..
Magica said
Jul 26 8:56 PM, 2023
They're talking about maybe opening the Michael Jackson abuse cases. Bit late isn't it, he died years ago.
Vita said
Jul 26 10:15 PM, 2023
Magica wrote:
Vita wrote:
Has been cleared of sexually assaulting four men.
The Oscar winning actor cried in court as he was found not guilty of the charges.
I hope he can rebuild his career.
Just because.he's cleared doesn't make.him innocent. I really hope he is, if so, can make a go of his career.
I haven't been following the case closely Mags but opinion seems to be divided on his innocence/guilt.
Magica said
Jul 26 11:01 PM, 2023
Vita wrote:
Magica wrote:
Vita wrote:
Has been cleared of sexually assaulting four men.
The Oscar winning actor cried in court as he was found not guilty of the charges.
I hope he can rebuild his career.
Just because.he's cleared doesn't make.him innocent. I really hope he is, if so, can make a go of his career.
I haven't been following the case closely Mags but opinion seems to be divided on his innocence/guilt.
No me neither V.
Anonymous said
Aug 7 5:03 PM, 2023
I believe everything I read in the British Media. Where there is smoke there must be fire. So I say to you string him up but not in a kinky way. But do I hear you say hanging is too good for him? Fair enough let's force him to watch the Women's World Cup and if he hasn't garroted himself by the time of the Final then he should be forced to watch that new Barbie movie.
Anonymous said
Aug 7 5:06 PM, 2023
Magica wrote:
They're talking about maybe opening the Michael Jackson abuse cases. Bit late isn't it, he died years ago.
Well there must be lots of money to be had for the investigators, the lawyers and the judges.
Has been cleared of sexually assaulting four men.
The Oscar winning actor cried in court as he was found not guilty of the charges.
I hope he can rebuild his career.
Just because.he's cleared doesn't make.him innocent. I really hope he is, if so, can make a go of his career.
Amazing what a good legal team can do.
There have been many accusations against Spacey, dating back to 1986, are all these young boys and adult men lying?
Many accused Saville of sexual abuse, and none of them were taken seriously either. I wonder had Saville ever been charged, whether he also would have walked free in court?
Money and power, having the right legal team, and the right people in your pocket, and people can and do get away with murder...and rape etc.
-- Edited by Syl on Wednesday 26th of July 2023 04:20:44 PM
Money also makes you a target for folks wanting a payoff.
There were no boys involved in these accusations but grown ass men who willingly hung out with a gay man that was interested in them..
Was he too aggressive?
Maybe.
Gay men often come on very strong towards other gay men.
Sorta like straight men do with ladies.
Was there ever a time these men couldn't just get up and walk out the door?
One of the accusers was 14 when he said Spacey abused him.
I have no doubt some people will crawl out of the woodwork when they think they can make money out of a celeb, I also have no doubt that many people are disbelieved when they should be believed.
Didn't four of his accusers die suddenly just as all this publicity broke in the States?
From Twitter...
https://twitter.com/OV_Matter/status/1684217864822067200/photo/1
Well, if he's 14, that's different..
Why weren't charges about indecency with a minor brought up?
I don't really follow Hollywood stuff so I can't speak of the 4 you mention.
All I know is what I read today which amounts to some cases of groping and one case where Spacey said they had a great night of consensual sex..
I do know there are some playmates suing old Heffs estate because they now regret the sex they had with a creepy old guy..🤷♂️
Re Playmates....I don't doubt some of them were there because of the prestige they thought it brought them, if they chose to have sex with a creepy old guy, that's their choice...IF they were of legal age.
That's likely true. Years of adulation will do that to people.
In the Spacey case I'm reminded of groupies and bands..
Who's at fault what happens backstage. Those folks chasing or the folks who get off on being chased?
It's a dance that often leads to encounters where someone is being taken advantage of..
I haven't been following the case closely Mags but opinion seems to be divided on his innocence/guilt.
No me neither V.
I believe everything I read in the British Media. Where there is smoke there must be fire. So I say to you string him up but not in a kinky way. But do I hear you say hanging is too good for him? Fair enough let's force him to watch the Women's World Cup and if he hasn't garroted himself by the time of the Final then he should be forced to watch that new Barbie movie.
Well there must be lots of money to be had for the investigators, the lawyers and the judges.