Brianna Ghey's mother is calling for a ban on children's access to social media after it was revealed her daughter's killer watched torture videos on the Dark Web.
Her mother, Esther, said she wants smartphones to be made available for under-16s without social media apps.
She is also campaigning for searches for inappropriate material to be flagged to parents.
Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe were both 15 when they killed Brianna, 16, with a hunting knife after luring her to Linear Park, Culcheth, a village near Warrington, Cheshire, on February 11 last year.
Jenkinson feasted on horror films while scouring the 'dark web' for footage of real-life torture and murder, with experts believing her exposure to depraved online imagery would have desensitised her, 'goading' her into copying what she had seen.
Digger said
Feb 4 10:50 AM, 2024
I've been saying this for years. The frontal lobe of the human brain is not developed until 25 years old. There was a good reason that the age of consent used to be 21.
Social media can be a very sharp, very nasty double edged sword, and I do believe it's at a root of a lot of bad behaviour in kids along with depression and mental health problems.
Magica said
Feb 4 11:32 AM, 2024
Would be good, but I can't see how they can make this work tbh. Many under 16 have older friends so can watch it on their phones if they want.
Got to be warped to want to watch them in the first place.
Syl said
Feb 4 12:12 PM, 2024
I do believe that allowing young kids access to porn and violence can definitely have a bad influence on some.
I also agree with Mags, I don't see how, now the beast has been unleashed, it can ever be controlled.
It would take all parents to be supervising their kids all the time, which is impossible, or governments to restrict social media content for all.
I can't see either happening.
Syl said
Feb 4 12:29 PM, 2024
I would have no desire to get on the so called Dark Web, and I would have no idea how to even if I wanted to.
Some kids are curious, so I can understand why some find a way.
I have no idea how it's policed, but if it can't be got rid of, it certainly should be watched very carefully.
Anonymous said
Feb 4 1:58 PM, 2024
Digger wrote:
Jenkinson feasted on horror films while scouring the 'dark web' for footage of real-life torture and murder, with experts believing her exposure to depraved online imagery would have desensitised her, 'goading' her into copying what she had seen.
Ban horror films and then ban the arms industry and stop funding and promoting war - where most of these tortures and murders come from (and most of them are probably staged to promote war). Then there is the jihadi material. The West funds the jihadis when it suits them - to fight the Soviets when they were in Afghanistan - to destabilize middle eastern nations and to overthrow their leaders that don't play ball with them. Nowadays the mainstream media produce material that desensitizes people to horror and then we have our Politicians promoting war and celebrating huge arms deals.
Magica said
Feb 4 2:50 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
I would have no desire to get on the so called Dark Web, and I would have no idea how to even if I wanted to.
Some kids are curious, so I can understand why some find a way.
I have no idea how it's policed, but if it can't be got rid of, it certainly should be watched very carefully.
Why can't they ban the Dark Web. Never been there, never want to. It's sick imo.
Syl said
Feb 4 3:02 PM, 2024
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
I would have no desire to get on the so called Dark Web, and I would have no idea how to even if I wanted to.
Some kids are curious, so I can understand why some find a way.
I have no idea how it's policed, but if it can't be got rid of, it certainly should be watched very carefully.
Why can't they ban the Dark Web. Never been there, never want to. It's sick imo.
I read this kid was watching snuff movies on there.
I have no idea whether they are real or fake, but either way, they are sick, and stuff like that would affect any mind, never mind a young persons.
Magica said
Feb 4 4:36 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
I would have no desire to get on the so called Dark Web, and I would have no idea how to even if I wanted to.
Some kids are curious, so I can understand why some find a way.
I have no idea how it's policed, but if it can't be got rid of, it certainly should be watched very carefully.
Why can't they ban the Dark Web. Never been there, never want to. It's sick imo.
I read this kid was watching snuff movies on there.
I have no idea whether they are real or fake, but either way, they are sick, and stuff like that would affect any mind, never mind a young persons.
I can't imagine watching a snuff movie, torture or rape. Its beyond me!
Maddog said
Feb 4 5:15 PM, 2024
It's not a terrible idea, but it's kind of unworkable.
It's virtually impossible to verify age on line, unless IDs are required.
Now, I don't think anyone under 18 is interested in this forum, but if they were, they could easily lie about their age and log on.
jackthelad said
Feb 4 5:36 PM, 2024
Impossible! Reminds me of another forum I set up and this time gave it to Lexi. It was a rather smooth quite flash looking blue affair and once again I'm buggered if I can remember the name of it.
Might have been The Snug.... might not have. Got it up and running and the posts coming in but had decided to see if I could find some new blood. I explained what the forum was all about to a number of people around the web and got lots of American and Japanese people joining. Few Europeans were turning up too. I made a point of saying that I would prefer you didn't join up if you were under 18 but of course had no way of policing that. Anyway all was going well and I handed it over to Lexi. One American guy who was a concert pianist who played with the New York Philharmonic I think it was but also lead guitar in a rock band and was going back to uni for some reason owned up to being 18 in three days time. Lexi went ballistic and banned him for being under age then changed the nice blue theme for some rather ugly multi image thing. She banned all the new blood because she thought it wrong that young people... mostly well educated young people should be telling older people what's right and wrong. She wasn't interested in their points of view. There went another good little forum. Hi Lexi if your still breathing.
-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 4th of February 2024 05:38:02 PM
Syl said
Feb 4 6:39 PM, 2024
Maddog wrote:
It's not a terrible idea, but it's kind of unworkable.
It's virtually impossible to verify age on line, unless IDs are required.
Now, I don't think anyone under 18 is interested in this forum, but if they were, they could easily lie about their age and log on.
You are joking, Digger never looks to see if anyone is asking to join.
I was away for 2 weeks last year, took a new tablet, my passwords were not stored, couldn't remember them so I couldn't log in... I filled in the 'Lost account info'...I was home before she bloody responded.
Anonymous said
Feb 4 7:15 PM, 2024
Never even heard of a snuff movie (you guys - you dolls !!!). Had to look it up. This has been going on for ever (not snuff movies). It was estimated that the average American child had seen about ten thousand deaths on television / on screen by the time they were ten or twelve. When Ghadaffi was killed in Libya it was broadcast by the mainstream media and images were in the papers - and it was greeted with celebration. Then we have shoot them up video games - children spending all day killing as part of a video / PC game.
Digger said
Feb 4 7:57 PM, 2024
jackthelad wrote:
Impossible! Reminds me of another forum I set up and this time gave it to Lexi. It was a rather smooth quite flash looking blue affair and once again I'm buggered if I can remember the name of it.
Might have been The Snug.... might not have. Got it up and running and the posts coming in but had decided to see if I could find some new blood. I explained what the forum was all about to a number of people around the web and got lots of American and Japanese people joining. Few Europeans were turning up too. I made a point of saying that I would prefer you didn't join up if you were under 18 but of course had no way of policing that. Anyway all was going well and I handed it over to Lexi. One American guy who was a concert pianist who played with the New York Philharmonic I think it was but also lead guitar in a rock band and was going back to uni for some reason owned up to being 18 in three days time. Lexi went ballistic and banned him for being under age then changed the nice blue theme for some rather ugly multi image thing. She banned all the new blood because she thought it wrong that young people... mostly well educated young people should be telling older people what's right and wrong. She wasn't interested in their points of view. There went another good little forum. Hi Lexi if your still breathing.
-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 4th of February 2024 05:38:02 PM
Wasn't Lexi the hypochondriac who's nose fell off?
Digger said
Feb 4 7:58 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
It's not a terrible idea, but it's kind of unworkable.
It's virtually impossible to verify age on line, unless IDs are required.
Now, I don't think anyone under 18 is interested in this forum, but if they were, they could easily lie about their age and log on.
You are joking, Digger never looks to see if anyone is asking to join.
I was away for 2 weeks last year, took a new tablet, my passwords were not stored, couldn't remember them so I couldn't log in... I filled in the 'Lost account info'...I was home before she bloody responded.
Digger said
Feb 4 7:59 PM, 2024
Actually I do look to see if anyone is pending but mostly they are either spam or using a proxy and we don't allow proxies for joining up here.
Brianna Ghey's mother is calling for a ban on children's access to social media after it was revealed her daughter's killer watched torture videos on the Dark Web.
Her mother, Esther, said she wants smartphones to be made available for under-16s without social media apps.
She is also campaigning for searches for inappropriate material to be flagged to parents.
Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe were both 15 when they killed Brianna, 16, with a hunting knife after luring her to Linear Park, Culcheth, a village near Warrington, Cheshire, on February 11 last year.
Jenkinson feasted on horror films while scouring the 'dark web' for footage of real-life torture and murder, with experts believing her exposure to depraved online imagery would have desensitised her, 'goading' her into copying what she had seen.
Social media can be a very sharp, very nasty double edged sword, and I do believe it's at a root of a lot of bad behaviour in kids along with depression and mental health problems.
Got to be warped to want to watch them in the first place.
I also agree with Mags, I don't see how, now the beast has been unleashed, it can ever be controlled.
It would take all parents to be supervising their kids all the time, which is impossible, or governments to restrict social media content for all.
I can't see either happening.
Some kids are curious, so I can understand why some find a way.
I have no idea how it's policed, but if it can't be got rid of, it certainly should be watched very carefully.
Ban horror films and then ban the arms industry and stop funding and promoting war - where most of these tortures and murders come from (and most of them are probably staged to promote war). Then there is the jihadi material. The West funds the jihadis when it suits them - to fight the Soviets when they were in Afghanistan - to destabilize middle eastern nations and to overthrow their leaders that don't play ball with them. Nowadays the mainstream media produce material that desensitizes people to horror and then we have our Politicians promoting war and celebrating huge arms deals.
Why can't they ban the Dark Web. Never been there, never want to. It's sick imo.
I read this kid was watching snuff movies on there.
I have no idea whether they are real or fake, but either way, they are sick, and stuff like that would affect any mind, never mind a young persons.
I can't imagine watching a snuff movie, torture or rape. Its beyond me!
It's virtually impossible to verify age on line, unless IDs are required.
Now, I don't think anyone under 18 is interested in this forum, but if they were, they could easily lie about their age and log on.
Impossible!
Reminds me of another forum I set up and this time gave it to Lexi.
It was a rather smooth quite flash looking blue affair and once again I'm buggered if I can remember the name of it.
Might have been The Snug.... might not have.
Got it up and running and the posts coming in but had decided to see if I could find some new blood.
I explained what the forum was all about to a number of people around the web and got lots of American and Japanese people joining.
Few Europeans were turning up too.
I made a point of saying that I would prefer you didn't join up if you were under 18 but of course had no way of policing that.
Anyway all was going well and I handed it over to Lexi.
One American guy who was a concert pianist who played with the New York Philharmonic I think it was but also lead guitar in a rock band and was going back to uni for some reason owned up to being 18 in three days time.
Lexi went ballistic and banned him for being under age then changed the nice blue theme for some rather ugly multi image thing.
She banned all the new blood because she thought it wrong that young people... mostly well educated young people should be telling older people what's right and wrong.
She wasn't interested in their points of view.
There went another good little forum.
Hi Lexi if your still breathing.
-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 4th of February 2024 05:38:02 PM
You are joking, Digger never looks to see if anyone is asking to join.
I was away for 2 weeks last year, took a new tablet, my passwords were not stored, couldn't remember them so I couldn't log in... I filled in the 'Lost account info'...I was home before she bloody responded.
Never even heard of a snuff movie (you guys - you dolls !!!). Had to look it up. This has been going on for ever (not snuff movies). It was estimated that the average American child had seen about ten thousand deaths on television / on screen by the time they were ten or twelve. When Ghadaffi was killed in Libya it was broadcast by the mainstream media and images were in the papers - and it was greeted with celebration. Then we have shoot them up video games - children spending all day killing as part of a video / PC game.
Wasn't Lexi the hypochondriac who's nose fell off?