I’ll admit to wanting it, just for the curiosity factor.
Syl said
Feb 5 12:28 PM, 2024
NO NO NO.
I want to live in the real world, not a digitally enhanced version that's brainwashing people today.
The next step will be to do away with the bulky head visor, replace it with contact lenses, people will be wired like robots living on a make believe planet.
I went out to eat a couple of days ago, the couple on the next table (middle aged) did not speak ONE word to each other, they were both glued to their mobile phones, and this is getting more and more the norm.
Bring back conversation....in the REAL world.
Magica said
Feb 5 4:09 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
NO NO NO.
I want to live in the real world, not a digitally enhanced version that's brainwashing people today. The next step will be to do away with the bulky head visor, replace it with contact lenses, people will be wired like robots living on a make believe planet.
I went out to eat a couple of days ago, the couple on the next table (middle aged) did not speak ONE word to each other, they were both glued to their mobile phones, and this is getting more and more the norm.
Bring back conversation....in the REAL world.
Oh I really agree Syl. There's nothing better than a good old natter.
Syl said
Feb 5 6:33 PM, 2024
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
NO NO NO.
I want to live in the real world, not a digitally enhanced version that's brainwashing people today. The next step will be to do away with the bulky head visor, replace it with contact lenses, people will be wired like robots living on a make believe planet.
I went out to eat a couple of days ago, the couple on the next table (middle aged) did not speak ONE word to each other, they were both glued to their mobile phones, and this is getting more and more the norm.
Bring back conversation....in the REAL world.
Oh I really agree Syl. There's nothing better than a good old natter.
It seems to be a dying art judging by the people we see together, who never actually talk to the people they are with.
I think it's the height of ignorance, and the one rule I have always had with family members, is..NO mobile phones at the table when we are eating.
jackthelad said
Feb 5 9:15 PM, 2024
Same in this house and I have been known to confiscate phones and put them in the microwave where they can't get a signal.
No one has died yet and no one has missed winning a million quid.
They have enjoyed chatting laughing eating drinking whilst have no connection with the outside world.
It sometimes takes a while for some of them to settle down because devices are now an extension of most people... most people are now cyborgs and having that part of them removed can be amazingly disconcerting.
Magica said
Feb 5 10:21 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
NO NO NO.
I want to live in the real world, not a digitally enhanced version that's brainwashing people today. The next step will be to do away with the bulky head visor, replace it with contact lenses, people will be wired like robots living on a make believe planet.
I went out to eat a couple of days ago, the couple on the next table (middle aged) did not speak ONE word to each other, they were both glued to their mobile phones, and this is getting more and more the norm.
Bring back conversation....in the REAL world.
Oh I really agree Syl. There's nothing better than a good old natter.
It seems to be a dying art judging by the people we see together, who never actually talk to the people they are with.
I think it's the height of ignorance, and the one rule I have always had with family members, is..NO mobile phones at the table when we are eating.
Me too. Dinner table is for eating and chatting to eachother. Not chatting on phones, texting or watching anything.
Magica said
Feb 5 10:22 PM, 2024
jackthelad wrote:
Same in this house and I have been known to confiscate phones and put them in the microwave where they can't get a signal. No one has died yet and no one has missed winning a million quid. They have enjoyed chatting laughing eating drinking whilst have no connection with the outside world. It sometimes takes a while for some of them to settle down because devices are now an extension of most people... most people are now cyborgs and having that part of them removed can be amazingly disconcerting.
Totally agree Jack.
Syl said
Feb 6 1:18 AM, 2024
When we had the caravan in Wales, the internet signal was useless. The grandkids were typical pre-teens, always playing games online. For the first few hours they would desperately be trying to get a signal...then miraculously, they forgot about online activities, played out, swam, kayaked, played tennis on the beach, watched a bit of TV, did things they never did at home.
They talk about those happy days all the time now.
-- Edited by Syl on Tuesday 6th of February 2024 12:04:07 PM
Magica said
Feb 6 4:13 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
When we had the caravan in Wales, the internet signal was useless. The grandkids were typical pre-teens, always playing games online. For the first few hours they would desperately be trying to get a signal...then miraculously, they forgot about online activities, played out, swam, kayaked, played tennis on the beach, watched a bit of TV, did things they never did at home.
They talk about those happy days all the time now.
-- Edited by Syl on Tuesday 6th of February 2024 12:04:07 PM
Exactly Syl. Play outside not in phones!
Syl said
Feb 6 5:25 PM, 2024
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
When we had the caravan in Wales, the internet signal was useless. The grandkids were typical pre-teens, always playing games online. For the first few hours they would desperately be trying to get a signal...then miraculously, they forgot about online activities, played out, swam, kayaked, played tennis on the beach, watched a bit of TV, did things they never did at home.
They talk about those happy days all the time now.
-- Edited by Syl on Tuesday 6th of February 2024 12:04:07 PM
Exactly Syl. Play outside not in phones!
I think a lot of parents prefer their kids playing in online than playing out...less dangerous??
Personally I think one sort of danger has been swapped for another.
jackthelad said
Feb 6 5:42 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
When we had the caravan in Wales, the internet signal was useless. The grandkids were typical pre-teens, always playing games online. For the first few hours they would desperately be trying to get a signal...then miraculously, they forgot about online activities, played out, swam, kayaked, played tennis on the beach, watched a bit of TV, did things they never did at home.
They talk about those happy days all the time now.
-- Edited by Syl on Tuesday 6th of February 2024 12:04:07 PM
Exactly Syl. Play outside not in phones!
I think a lot of parents prefer their kids playing in online than playing out...less dangerous??
Personally I think one sort of danger has been swapped for another.
One problem with kids playing out is the criticism of not knowing where their kids actually are.
They know they're not in the street outside... the streets that belonged to us as kids are no longer owned by the kids as all the streets are lined with a million quids worth of shiny metal so kids are banned from there.
If you live in a high rise... and once it goes dark more criticism for letting them out.
The park? Well the park probably has a bully or two and what about that kid that went missing?
It's not easy but I'm so glad I live away from most of the worry where my grandkids have open spaces rivers woodland all around where they and their friends mostly live. Still risks and worries of course but I could never go back to large towns and cities.
Syl said
Feb 6 6:48 PM, 2024
jackthelad wrote:
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
When we had the caravan in Wales, the internet signal was useless. The grandkids were typical pre-teens, always playing games online. For the first few hours they would desperately be trying to get a signal...then miraculously, they forgot about online activities, played out, swam, kayaked, played tennis on the beach, watched a bit of TV, did things they never did at home.
They talk about those happy days all the time now.
-- Edited by Syl on Tuesday 6th of February 2024 12:04:07 PM
Exactly Syl. Play outside not in phones!
I think a lot of parents prefer their kids playing in online than playing out...less dangerous??
Personally I think one sort of danger has been swapped for another.
One problem with kids playing out is the criticism of not knowing where their kids actually are.
They know they're not in the street outside... the streets that belonged to us as kids are no longer owned by the kids as all the streets are lined with a million quids worth of shiny metal so kids are banned from there.
If you live in a high rise... and once it goes dark more criticism for letting them out.
The park? Well the park probably has a bully or two and what about that kid that went missing?
It's not easy but I'm so glad I live away from most of the worry where my grandkids have open spaces rivers woodland all around where they and their friends mostly live. Still risks and worries of course but I could never go back to large towns and cities.
It obviously depends on the age of the kids, and the area where they live.
I know times have changed, but even back when my son was little, 8 or 9, he played out, but we had rules. He had to check back home at times agreed, he had to stay with friends, not wander off alone, be home before dark, ,and obviously, he didn't talk to strangers....this was pre mobile phone days, so there was less opportunity to keep in touch.
As he got older and learnt how to look after himself better, the rules changed.
I wonder how the kids of today, who are stuck in their rooms, ever manage to learn to be street smart and prepare themselves for adulthood.
I’ll admit to wanting it, just for the curiosity factor.
I want to live in the real world, not a digitally enhanced version that's brainwashing people today.
The next step will be to do away with the bulky head visor, replace it with contact lenses, people will be wired like robots living on a make believe planet.
I went out to eat a couple of days ago, the couple on the next table (middle aged) did not speak ONE word to each other, they were both glued to their mobile phones, and this is getting more and more the norm.
Bring back conversation....in the REAL world.
Oh I really agree Syl. There's nothing better than a good old natter.
It seems to be a dying art judging by the people we see together, who never actually talk to the people they are with.
I think it's the height of ignorance, and the one rule I have always had with family members, is..NO mobile phones at the table when we are eating.
No one has died yet and no one has missed winning a million quid.
They have enjoyed chatting laughing eating drinking whilst have no connection with the outside world.
It sometimes takes a while for some of them to settle down because devices are now an extension of most people... most people are now cyborgs and having that part of them removed can be amazingly disconcerting.
Me too. Dinner table is for eating and chatting to eachother. Not chatting on phones, texting or watching anything.
Totally agree Jack.
When we had the caravan in Wales, the internet signal was useless.
The grandkids were typical pre-teens, always playing games online.
For the first few hours they would desperately be trying to get a signal...then miraculously, they forgot about online activities, played out, swam, kayaked, played tennis on the beach, watched a bit of TV, did things they never did at home.
They talk about those happy days all the time now.
-- Edited by Syl on Tuesday 6th of February 2024 12:04:07 PM
Exactly Syl. Play outside not in phones!
I think a lot of parents prefer their kids playing in online than playing out...less dangerous??
Personally I think one sort of danger has been swapped for another.
One problem with kids playing out is the criticism of not knowing where their kids actually are.
They know they're not in the street outside... the streets that belonged to us as kids are no longer owned by the kids as all the streets are lined with a million quids worth of shiny metal so kids are banned from there.
If you live in a high rise... and once it goes dark more criticism for letting them out.
The park? Well the park probably has a bully or two and what about that kid that went missing?
It's not easy but I'm so glad I live away from most of the worry where my grandkids have open spaces rivers woodland all around where they and their friends mostly live. Still risks and worries of course but I could never go back to large towns and cities.
It obviously depends on the age of the kids, and the area where they live.
I know times have changed, but even back when my son was little, 8 or 9, he played out, but we had rules. He had to check back home at times agreed, he had to stay with friends, not wander off alone, be home before dark, ,and obviously, he didn't talk to strangers....this was pre mobile phone days, so there was less opportunity to keep in touch.
As he got older and learnt how to look after himself better, the rules changed.
I wonder how the kids of today, who are stuck in their rooms, ever manage to learn to be street smart and prepare themselves for adulthood.