And you don't tell them you will own nothing, you just promise them other people's stuff..
Syl said
Sep 2 11:48 AM, 2024
Many older people who need full time care in the twilight of their lives end up with nothing anyway.
It takes them 25 years to buy a house, hoping they will be able to pass it down to offspring one day...only to see exorbitant home care fees wipe it all out in the last few years of their life.
Surely people who have paid their taxes and contributed to the economy for 50 plus years deserve better....not in the UK they don't.
Magica said
Sep 2 2:24 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Many older people who need full time care in the twilight of their lives end up with nothing anyway.
It takes them 25 years to buy a house, hoping they will be able to pass it down to offspring one day...only to see exorbitant home care fees wipe it all out in the last few years of their life. Surely people who have paid their taxes and contributed to the economy for 50 plus years deserve better....not in the UK they don't.
It's disgusting treatment of the old here. Why can people who never worked, been on benefits, not saved a penny, get free care whilst others who saved for their old age, bought a house to pass to their kids when they die, have to pay, and they take the lot! Even pensions.
It should be reviewed, it's long overdue.
Syl said
Sep 11 5:12 PM, 2024
The elderly and poor will soon own nothing. After this worst government in recent history has taken the winter fuel payments off them, there is now talk their bus passes will be taken away too.
Starmer keeps repeating how much better off pensioners will be NEXT APRIL (this'll be when some have frozen to death) when he raises pensions... but he is quoting the rise for a full state pension, millions of pensioners don't get anywhere near that amount, and the older they are, they are on a reduced rate anyway.
Wonder why he doesn't keep repeating that?
Magica said
Sep 11 5:31 PM, 2024
Syl wrote:
The elderly and poor will soon own nothing. After this worst government in recent history has taken the winter fuel payments off them, there is now talk their bus passes will be taken away too.
Starmer keeps repeating how much better off pensioners will be NEXT APRIL (this'll be when some have frozen to death) when he raises pensions... but he is quoting the rise for a full state pension, millions of pensioners don't get anywhere near that amount, and the older they are, they are on a reduced rate anyway.
Wonder why he doesn't keep repeating that?
He's a dictator, hoping to kill off many. What I don't get is pensioners on credit who get help with rent, council tax etc, get it. Yet those who saved for their old age can't get it. Disgusting!
Syl said
Sep 11 11:55 PM, 2024
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
The elderly and poor will soon own nothing. After this worst government in recent history has taken the winter fuel payments off them, there is now talk their bus passes will be taken away too.
Starmer keeps repeating how much better off pensioners will be NEXT APRIL (this'll be when some have frozen to death) when he raises pensions... but he is quoting the rise for a full state pension, millions of pensioners don't get anywhere near that amount, and the older they are, they are on a reduced rate anyway.
Wonder why he doesn't keep repeating that?
He's a dictator, hoping to kill off many. What I don't get is pensioners on credit who get help with rent, council tax etc, get it. Yet those who saved for their old age can't get it. Disgusting!
I know, the system here seems to be against the people who have worked hard and saved for their old age.
Some pensioners are in need of the pension credit through no fault of their own.
Others, and I have known some, never save a penny knowing the state will look after them when they retire.
Magica said
Sep 12 12:52 AM, 2024
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
The elderly and poor will soon own nothing. After this worst government in recent history has taken the winter fuel payments off them, there is now talk their bus passes will be taken away too.
Starmer keeps repeating how much better off pensioners will be NEXT APRIL (this'll be when some have frozen to death) when he raises pensions... but he is quoting the rise for a full state pension, millions of pensioners don't get anywhere near that amount, and the older they are, they are on a reduced rate anyway.
Wonder why he doesn't keep repeating that?
He's a dictator, hoping to kill off many. What I don't get is pensioners on credit who get help with rent, council tax etc, get it. Yet those who saved for their old age can't get it. Disgusting!
I know, the system here seems to be against the people who have worked hard and saved for their old age.
Some pensioners are in need of the pension credit through no fault of their own.
Others, and I have known some, never save a penny knowing the state will look after them when they retire.
Yes I've know some too.
I can understand not giving it to the rich, but working class, no matter how much they have should be entitled. They worked for it.
How do you sell this to the public?
Distract them with other things
Class envy.
It's always the method of tyrants.
And you don't tell them you will own nothing, you just promise them other people's stuff..
It takes them 25 years to buy a house, hoping they will be able to pass it down to offspring one day...only to see exorbitant home care fees wipe it all out in the last few years of their life.
Surely people who have paid their taxes and contributed to the economy for 50 plus years deserve better....not in the UK they don't.
It's disgusting treatment of the old here. Why can people who never worked, been on benefits, not saved a penny, get free care whilst others who saved for their old age, bought a house to pass to their kids when they die, have to pay, and they take the lot! Even pensions.
It should be reviewed, it's long overdue.
The elderly and poor will soon own nothing.
After this worst government in recent history has taken the winter fuel payments off them, there is now talk their bus passes will be taken away too.
Starmer keeps repeating how much better off pensioners will be NEXT APRIL (this'll be when some have frozen to death) when he raises pensions... but he is quoting the rise for a full state pension, millions of pensioners don't get anywhere near that amount, and the older they are, they are on a reduced rate anyway.
Wonder why he doesn't keep repeating that?
He's a dictator, hoping to kill off many. What I don't get is pensioners on credit who get help with rent, council tax etc, get it. Yet those who saved for their old age can't get it. Disgusting!
I know, the system here seems to be against the people who have worked hard and saved for their old age.
Some pensioners are in need of the pension credit through no fault of their own.
Others, and I have known some, never save a penny knowing the state will look after them when they retire.