ChaoticMusings

Date: Dec 17 4:50 PM, 2019

I am fed up with the Sleeping Dogs Forum - it is turning into an echo chamber

Date: Dec 17 5:07 PM, 2019

Anonymous wrote:
Hello, I hope you don't mind me moaning here because I am not allowed to moan on Sleeping Dogs.

I was a member of Digital Spy and I came across Sleeping Dogs after a DS Forum Member mentioned it.   Sleeping Dogs allowed me to moan about some of the moderation on Digital Spy that would not pass moderation on Digital Spy.   This also brought me into contact with a small community of fellow DS moaners.   I did this as a guest member - or as a "baghead" as the forum members of Sleeping Dogs often refer to us as.

However, after a while I began to shift from moaning and talking about Digital Spy to responding to some of the political discussion on Sleeping Dogs and through that experience I began encountering some of the forum members on Sleeping Dogs.

However it has now come to a point where the majority of my comments no longer pass moderation.   When I criticisie certain politicians or when I criticise the views of certain forum members my posts no longer pass moderation on sleeping dogs.   It makes it impossible to engage in debate. So for example I post a comment on a political theme - I get an abusive comment from a forum member in response - and then when I reply to critique their response it doesn't pass moderation. This is all done as a guest (or baghead). Then when I post a comment about the moderation on Sleeping Dogs there is a post from a moderator saying they are having to remove troll posts. There is a lot that goes under "troll posts" as an excuse to prevent certain political themes and certain Sleeping Dogs Forum members views from being contested.

What I would like to say in conclusion is this.   There is a certain group of Sleeping Dogs Forum Members that constantly complain about the moderation on Sleeping Dogs. They do not help their case by being often obnoxious and confrontational. All I can say to this group is - as a "baghead" I now understand your complaints. However, my suggestion is to walk away rather than to keep bothering yourself about it.

Just to add I heard about this site from Sleeping Dogs - but for some reason actual mention of the site beyond "CM" is rapidly censored. They won't allow the mentioning of sites they seem to consider as "competition".   But I don't see the sites as competing against each other - but just hosting a different small community of people.

Thank you for the time. And thank you for posting this (if you deem it interesting enough).

Dogs has always been censorship central. However, most forums have prejudices.

Twizzler · Burning up the forum

Anonymous wrote:
Hello, I hope you don't mind me moaning here because I am not allowed to moan on Sleeping Dogs.

I was a member of Digital Spy and I came across Sleeping Dogs after a DS Forum Member mentioned it.   Sleeping Dogs allowed me to moan about some of the moderation on Digital Spy that would not pass moderation on Digital Spy.   This also brought me into contact with a small community of fellow DS moaners.   I did this as a guest member - or as a "baghead" as the forum members of Sleeping Dogs often refer to us as.

However, after a while I began to shift from moaning and talking about Digital Spy to responding to some of the political discussion on Sleeping Dogs and through that experience I began encountering some of the forum members on Sleeping Dogs.

However it has now come to a point where the majority of my comments no longer pass moderation.   When I criticisie certain politicians or when I criticise the views of certain forum members my posts no longer pass moderation on sleeping dogs.   It makes it impossible to engage in debate. So for example I post a comment on a political theme - I get an abusive comment from a forum member in response - and then when I reply to critique their response it doesn't pass moderation. This is all done as a guest (or baghead). Then when I post a comment about the moderation on Sleeping Dogs there is a post from a moderator saying they are having to remove troll posts. There is a lot that goes under "troll posts" as an excuse to prevent certain political themes and certain Sleeping Dogs Forum members views from being contested.

What I would like to say in conclusion is this.   There is a certain group of Sleeping Dogs Forum Members that constantly complain about the moderation on Sleeping Dogs. They do not help their case by being often obnoxious and confrontational. All I can say to this group is - as a "baghead" I now understand your complaints. However, my suggestion is to walk away rather than to keep bothering yourself about it.

Just to add I heard about this site from Sleeping Dogs - but for some reason actual mention of the site beyond "CM" is rapidly censored. They won't allow the mentioning of sites they seem to consider as "competition".   But I don't see the sites as competing against each other - but just hosting a different small community of people.

Thank you for the time. And thank you for posting this (if you deem it interesting enough).

Why not join up and have your say.

Date: Dec 17 5:50 PM, 2019

Twizzler wrote:
Why not join up and have your say.

If I can contribute to a forum as a guest or as anonymous then I will. Then later I may join up if I decide this community and this forum is for me.

I tend not to be committal and like discussions that help with my understanding of the subject being discussed. So I will tend to engage in order to question or critique someones opinion with the hope that this develops the discussion and the thinking. However there is a tendency for others to interpret these questions or these critiques as some sort of insult to them or as representing someone who holds an opposing view. So rather than seeing this as an opportunity to think further and beyond or to explain there is a tendency to respond with abuse and snide remarks or to change the subject.

With Sleeping Dogs I can't really go beyond that because my responses don't pass moderation. And through this I learn that perhaps this forum is not for me. There are definitely some forum members on Sleeping Dogs that seem amenable and open to such discussion but it seems there are too many other "loud" elements that tend to prevent that - and then there is the moderation which stops me from engaging. There appears to be three moderators Stoo, Holly and HobbyFeet and I think all three have different ways and different things they censor. I have noticed certain posts not passing moderation when Stoo and when HobbyFeet appear to be on duty.

So for me I am thinking of only using Sleeping Dogs to sound off complaints regarding Digital Spy. The Political Section of DIgital Spy is hopeless for discussion but general discussions and other sections are generally okay.

rollup · Forum Eeyore

Anonymous wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
Why not join up and have your say.
If I can contribute to a forum as a guest or as anonymous then I will. Then later I may join up if I decide this community and this forum is for me.
I tend not to be committal and like discussions that help with my understanding of the subject being discussed. So I will tend to engage in order to question or critique someones opinion with the hope that this develops the discussion and the thinking. However there is a tendency for others to interpret these questions or these critiques as some sort of insult to them or as representing someone who holds an opposing view. So rather than seeing this as an opportunity to think further and beyond or to explain there is a tendency to respond with abuse and snide remarks or to change the subject.
With Sleeping Dogs I can't really go beyond that because my responses don't pass moderation. And through this I learn that perhaps this forum is not for me. There are definitely some forum members on Sleeping Dogs that seem amenable and open to such discussion but it seems there are too many other "loud" elements that tend to prevent that - and then there is the moderation which stops me from engaging. There appears to be three moderators Stoo, Holly and HobbyFeet and I think all three have different ways and different things they censor. I have noticed certain posts not passing moderation when Stoo and when HobbyFeet appear to be on duty.
So for me I am thinking of only using Sleeping Dogs to sound off complaints regarding Digital Spy. The Political Section of DIgital Spy is hopeless for discussion but general discussions and other sections are generally okay.

Same old same old Lucy.

-- Edited by rollup on Tuesday 17th of December 2019 06:11:37 PM

BackGammon · Burning up the forum

rollup wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
Why not join up and have your say.
If I can contribute to a forum as a guest or as anonymous then I will. Then later I may join up if I decide this community and this forum is for me.
I tend not to be committal and like discussions that help with my understanding of the subject being discussed. So I will tend to engage in order to question or critique someones opinion with the hope that this develops the discussion and the thinking. However there is a tendency for others to interpret these questions or these critiques as some sort of insult to them or as representing someone who holds an opposing view. So rather than seeing this as an opportunity to think further and beyond or to explain there is a tendency to respond with abuse and snide remarks or to change the subject.
With Sleeping Dogs I can't really go beyond that because my responses don't pass moderation. And through this I learn that perhaps this forum is not for me. There are definitely some forum members on Sleeping Dogs that seem amenable and open to such discussion but it seems there are too many other "loud" elements that tend to prevent that - and then there is the moderation which stops me from engaging. There appears to be three moderators Stoo, Holly and HobbyFeet and I think all three have different ways and different things they censor. I have noticed certain posts not passing moderation when Stoo and when HobbyFeet appear to be on duty.
So for me I am thinking of only using Sleeping Dogs to sound off complaints regarding Digital Spy. The Political Section of DIgital Spy is hopeless for discussion but general discussions and other sections are generally okay.

Same old same old Lucy.

-- Edited by rollup on Tuesday 17th of December 2019 06:11:37 PM

Yep,

Twizzler · Burning up the forum

rollup wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
Why not join up and have your say.
If I can contribute to a forum as a guest or as anonymous then I will. Then later I may join up if I decide this community and this forum is for me.
I tend not to be committal and like discussions that help with my understanding of the subject being discussed. So I will tend to engage in order to question or critique someones opinion with the hope that this develops the discussion and the thinking. However there is a tendency for others to interpret these questions or these critiques as some sort of insult to them or as representing someone who holds an opposing view. So rather than seeing this as an opportunity to think further and beyond or to explain there is a tendency to respond with abuse and snide remarks or to change the subject.
With Sleeping Dogs I can't really go beyond that because my responses don't pass moderation. And through this I learn that perhaps this forum is not for me. There are definitely some forum members on Sleeping Dogs that seem amenable and open to such discussion but it seems there are too many other "loud" elements that tend to prevent that - and then there is the moderation which stops me from engaging. There appears to be three moderators Stoo, Holly and HobbyFeet and I think all three have different ways and different things they censor. I have noticed certain posts not passing moderation when Stoo and when HobbyFeet appear to be on duty.
So for me I am thinking of only using Sleeping Dogs to sound off complaints regarding Digital Spy. The Political Section of DIgital Spy is hopeless for discussion but general discussions and other sections are generally okay.

Same old same old Lucy.

-- Edited by rollup on Tuesday 17th of December 2019 06:11:37 PM

Jack you are beginning to sound like Vicky. Every guest that posted was either Lucy or Phil.

The post actually doesn’t look like it was written by Lucy.

BackGammon · Burning up the forum

That's because he can post normally, the Lucian persona has very clever misspelling.

Twizzler · Burning up the forum

BackGammon wrote:
That's because he can post normally, the Lucian persona has very clever misspelling.

Wow, that must be very hard work to change your persona like that.

Well if the anonymous person is Lucian ( which I’m finding hard to believe) then

that shows a brilliance of mind.

rollup · Forum Eeyore

Twizzler wrote:
rollup wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
Why not join up and have your say.
If I can contribute to a forum as a guest or as anonymous then I will. Then later I may join up if I decide this community and this forum is for me.
I tend not to be committal and like discussions that help with my understanding of the subject being discussed. So I will tend to engage in order to question or critique someones opinion with the hope that this develops the discussion and the thinking. However there is a tendency for others to interpret these questions or these critiques as some sort of insult to them or as representing someone who holds an opposing view. So rather than seeing this as an opportunity to think further and beyond or to explain there is a tendency to respond with abuse and snide remarks or to change the subject.
With Sleeping Dogs I can't really go beyond that because my responses don't pass moderation. And through this I learn that perhaps this forum is not for me. There are definitely some forum members on Sleeping Dogs that seem amenable and open to such discussion but it seems there are too many other "loud" elements that tend to prevent that - and then there is the moderation which stops me from engaging. There appears to be three moderators Stoo, Holly and HobbyFeet and I think all three have different ways and different things they censor. I have noticed certain posts not passing moderation when Stoo and when HobbyFeet appear to be on duty.
So for me I am thinking of only using Sleeping Dogs to sound off complaints regarding Digital Spy. The Political Section of DIgital Spy is hopeless for discussion but general discussions and other sections are generally okay.

Same old same old Lucy.

-- Edited by rollup on Tuesday 17th of December 2019 06:11:37 PM
Jack you are beginning to sound like Vicky. Every guest that posted was either Lucy or Phil.
The post actually doesn’t look like it was written by Lucy.

Thank you compliments are rare in forum world.

Twizzler · Burning up the forum

rollup wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
rollup wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
Why not join up and have your say.
If I can contribute to a forum as a guest or as anonymous then I will. Then later I may join up if I decide this community and this forum is for me.
I tend not to be committal and like discussions that help with my understanding of the subject being discussed. So I will tend to engage in order to question or critique someones opinion with the hope that this develops the discussion and the thinking. However there is a tendency for others to interpret these questions or these critiques as some sort of insult to them or as representing someone who holds an opposing view. So rather than seeing this as an opportunity to think further and beyond or to explain there is a tendency to respond with abuse and snide remarks or to change the subject.
With Sleeping Dogs I can't really go beyond that because my responses don't pass moderation. And through this I learn that perhaps this forum is not for me. There are definitely some forum members on Sleeping Dogs that seem amenable and open to such discussion but it seems there are too many other "loud" elements that tend to prevent that - and then there is the moderation which stops me from engaging. There appears to be three moderators Stoo, Holly and HobbyFeet and I think all three have different ways and different things they censor. I have noticed certain posts not passing moderation when Stoo and when HobbyFeet appear to be on duty.
So for me I am thinking of only using Sleeping Dogs to sound off complaints regarding Digital Spy. The Political Section of DIgital Spy is hopeless for discussion but general discussions and other sections are generally okay.

Same old same old Lucy.

-- Edited by rollup on Tuesday 17th of December 2019 06:11:37 PM
Jack you are beginning to sound like Vicky. Every guest that posted was either Lucy or Phil.
The post actually doesn’t look like it was written by Lucy.
Thank you compliments are rare in forum world.

Whatever you say Jack

rollup · Forum Eeyore

Twizzler wrote:
rollup wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
rollup wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
Why not join up and have your say.
If I can contribute to a forum as a guest or as anonymous then I will. Then later I may join up if I decide this community and this forum is for me.
I tend not to be committal and like discussions that help with my understanding of the subject being discussed. So I will tend to engage in order to question or critique someones opinion with the hope that this develops the discussion and the thinking. However there is a tendency for others to interpret these questions or these critiques as some sort of insult to them or as representing someone who holds an opposing view. So rather than seeing this as an opportunity to think further and beyond or to explain there is a tendency to respond with abuse and snide remarks or to change the subject.
With Sleeping Dogs I can't really go beyond that because my responses don't pass moderation. And through this I learn that perhaps this forum is not for me. There are definitely some forum members on Sleeping Dogs that seem amenable and open to such discussion but it seems there are too many other "loud" elements that tend to prevent that - and then there is the moderation which stops me from engaging. There appears to be three moderators Stoo, Holly and HobbyFeet and I think all three have different ways and different things they censor. I have noticed certain posts not passing moderation when Stoo and when HobbyFeet appear to be on duty.
So for me I am thinking of only using Sleeping Dogs to sound off complaints regarding Digital Spy. The Political Section of DIgital Spy is hopeless for discussion but general discussions and other sections are generally okay.

Same old same old Lucy.

-- Edited by rollup on Tuesday 17th of December 2019 06:11:37 PM
Jack you are beginning to sound like Vicky. Every guest that posted was either Lucy or Phil.
The post actually doesn’t look like it was written by Lucy.
Thank you compliments are rare in forum world.
Whatever you say Jack

Merry Xmas Twizz.

Twizzler · Burning up the forum

rollup wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
rollup wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
rollup wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
Why not join up and have your say.
If I can contribute to a forum as a guest or as anonymous then I will. Then later I may join up if I decide this community and this forum is for me.
I tend not to be committal and like discussions that help with my understanding of the subject being discussed. So I will tend to engage in order to question or critique someones opinion with the hope that this develops the discussion and the thinking. However there is a tendency for others to interpret these questions or these critiques as some sort of insult to them or as representing someone who holds an opposing view. So rather than seeing this as an opportunity to think further and beyond or to explain there is a tendency to respond with abuse and snide remarks or to change the subject.
With Sleeping Dogs I can't really go beyond that because my responses don't pass moderation. And through this I learn that perhaps this forum is not for me. There are definitely some forum members on Sleeping Dogs that seem amenable and open to such discussion but it seems there are too many other "loud" elements that tend to prevent that - and then there is the moderation which stops me from engaging. There appears to be three moderators Stoo, Holly and HobbyFeet and I think all three have different ways and different things they censor. I have noticed certain posts not passing moderation when Stoo and when HobbyFeet appear to be on duty.
So for me I am thinking of only using Sleeping Dogs to sound off complaints regarding Digital Spy. The Political Section of DIgital Spy is hopeless for discussion but general discussions and other sections are generally okay.

Same old same old Lucy.

-- Edited by rollup on Tuesday 17th of December 2019 06:11:37 PM
Jack you are beginning to sound like Vicky. Every guest that posted was either Lucy or Phil.
The post actually doesn’t look like it was written by Lucy.
Thank you compliments are rare in forum world.
Whatever you say Jack
Merry Xmas Twizz.

Merry Xmas Jack

BackGammon · Burning up the forum

Twizzler wrote:
BackGammon wrote:
That's because he can post normally, the Lucian persona has very clever misspelling.
Wow, that must be very hard work to change your persona like that.
Well if the anonymous person is Lucian ( which I’m finding hard to believe) then
that shows a brilliance of mind.

You misread my post, he is brilliant. The very clever misspelling was a clue.

Twizzler · Burning up the forum

BackGammon wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
BackGammon wrote:
That's because he can post normally, the Lucian persona has very clever misspelling.
Wow, that must be very hard work to change your persona like that.
Well if the anonymous person is Lucian ( which I’m finding hard to believe) then
that shows a brilliance of mind.
You misread my post, he is brilliant. The very clever misspelling was a clue.

I did

But you are correct. The man is brilliant. A forum legend.

BackGammon · Burning up the forum

Twizzler wrote:
BackGammon wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
BackGammon wrote:
That's because he can post normally, the Lucian persona has very clever misspelling.
Wow, that must be very hard work to change your persona like that.
Well if the anonymous person is Lucian ( which I’m finding hard to believe) then
that shows a brilliance of mind.
You misread my post, he is brilliant. The very clever misspelling was a clue.
I did
But you are correct. The man is brilliant. A forum legend.

Miles ahead of the self proclaimed FORUM LEGEND.

Twizzler · Burning up the forum

BackGammon wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
BackGammon wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
BackGammon wrote:
That's because he can post normally, the Lucian persona has very clever misspelling.
Wow, that must be very hard work to change your persona like that.
Well if the anonymous person is Lucian ( which I’m finding hard to believe) then
that shows a brilliance of mind.
You misread my post, he is brilliant. The very clever misspelling was a clue.
I did
But you are correct. The man is brilliant. A forum legend.
Miles ahead of the self proclaimed FORUM LEGEND.

Definitely

rollup · Forum Eeyore

I see Lordy is now openly cheerleading for the Tories.
Always a Tory at heart but been to chicken shit to say so for the last few years as he cloaks it all in well but yes but maybe.
"I've never denied being a Tory but Corbyn" blah blah .....

BackGammon · Burning up the forum

rollup wrote:
I see Lordy is now openly cheerleading for the Tories.
Always a Tory at heart but been to chicken shit to say so for the last few years as he cloaks it all in well but yes but maybe.
"I've never denied being a Tory but Corbyn" blah blah .....

Yes he says he's voted Tory all his life but suddenly developed a social conscience and voted FibDem. He voted for the very austerity that he is professing to be so against now. Not so passionate about these dire social problems we have now that he would vote for the very person who vowed to end it and invest money in the country and its people. Hell would freeze over first eh?

rollup · Forum Eeyore

BackGammon wrote:
rollup wrote:
I see Lordy is now openly cheerleading for the Tories.
Always a Tory at heart but been to chicken shit to say so for the last few years as he cloaks it all in well but yes but maybe.
"I've never denied being a Tory but Corbyn" blah blah .....
Yes he says he's voted Tory all his life but suddenly developed a social conscience and voted FibDem. He voted for the very austerity that he is professing to be so against now. Not so passionate about these dire social problems we have now that he would vote for the very person who vowed to end it and invest money in the country and its people. Hell would freeze over first eh?

When I linked him to the Lib Dem leader saying if she became prime minister she would impose austerity economics permanently he completely ignored it.

LIBERAL DEMOCRATS PLEDGE TO IMPLEMENT PERMANENT AUSTERITY IF THEY GET INTO GOVERNMENT n.... https://evolvepolitics.com/liberal-democrats-pledge-to-implement-permanent-austerity-if-they-get-into-government/