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John Doe · Still Here!

The Face of Evil Incarnate?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Horrifying indeed.
I wonder what new evidence has been uncovered in the last 2 years.

John Doe · Still Here!

Syl wrote:
Horrifying indeed.
I wonder what new evidence has been uncovered in the last 2 years.

It must be rock solid for them to charge her.

All those innocent lives destroyed at the very beginning - my heart goes out to all the grieving families.

Raggamuffin · 1000 Posts!?

Shades of Beverley Allitt, who is still in Rampton. Nobody really knows why she killed and injured children, but it was thought she had Munchausen syndrome by proxy - ie, she wanted attention so she injected at least some of them with insulin so that she could "save" them when they became ill.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Beverley Allitt was the name that came to my mind when I heard of this.
So far there is no information about this latest case, apart from the murders and attempted murders happened in 2015 to 2016 at the Countess of Chester hospital.

Date: Nov 12 12:47 PM, 2020

Only religious people believe in evil. She has been charged but as yet nothing has been proven in court. Rather than demonising an individual based on allegations why not wait for the judicial process to occur?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
Only religious people believe in evil. She has been charged but as yet nothing has been proven in court. Rather than demonising an individual based on allegations why not wait for the judicial process to occur?

Who has mentioned religion apart from you?

It's all over the news, forums discuss what's in the news, posters give opinions about what's in the news.

If you have a problem with that maybe forums are not the place for you.

Raggamuffin · 1000 Posts!?

It's true that it hasn't been proven yet, and she may well have done nothing wrong. It just reminded me of the Beverley Allitt case.

John Doe · Still Here!

Anonymous wrote:
Only religious people believe in evil. She has been charged but as yet nothing has been proven in court. Rather than demonising an individual based on allegations why not wait for the judicial process to occur?

Why the hell are you bringing up religion?

'Demonisng' her?

We could have a long and boring discussion on evolutionary psychology and personality disorders but 'evil' is an expression for behaviour far beyond the norm and I think is currently the best term for killing innocent young babies that comes to mind.

The CPS does not charge people with such serious crimes unless they are 100% sure of a conviction.

Date: Nov 12 2:02 PM, 2020

It's a sad story all round. Sad for the children who died and their parents, sad for the family of the nurse who did it, and even sad for the nurse herself - to be in a place to do such a terrible thing.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
It's a sad story all round. Sad for the children who died and their parents, sad for the family of the nurse who did it, and even sad for the nurse herself - to be in a place to do such a terrible thing.

It's incredibly sad, though I doubt many people will have much sympathy for the nurse if she is found guilty.

John Doe · Still Here!

Anonymous wrote:
It's a sad story all round. Sad for the children who died and their parents, sad for the family of the nurse who did it, and even sad for the nurse herself - to be in a place to do such a terrible thing.

Why exactly is it sad for the nurse?

Even if she is found insane she will be looked after 24/7 - unlike the babies who are now rotting corpses or ashes.

John Doe · Still Here!

Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's a sad story all round. Sad for the children who died and their parents, sad for the family of the nurse who did it, and even sad for the nurse herself - to be in a place to do such a terrible thing.
It's incredibly sad, though I doubt many people will have much sympathy for the nurse if she is found guilty.

I don't.

Apparently that makes me a monster.

Date: Nov 12 4:05 PM, 2020

John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Only religious people believe in evil ..............
Why the hell are you bringing up religion?

Many people claim to be atheist but act and think religiously.

Date: Nov 12 4:07 PM, 2020

John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's a sad story all round. Sad for the children who died and their parents, sad for the family of the nurse who did it, and even sad for the nurse herself - to be in a place to do such a terrible thing.
Why exactly is it sad for the nurse?
Even if she is found insane she will be looked after 24/7 - unlike the babies who are now rotting corpses or ashes.

Why is it sad for her too? Come out of your blinkered mind-box and think about it some more.

Date: Nov 12 4:19 PM, 2020

John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Rather than demonising an individual based on allegations why not wait for the judicial process to occur?
'Demonisng' her?

I interpret the following as demonising in terms of the title, what is written, the style of the writing and the presentation of the pictures.

John Doe wrote: The Face of Evil Incarnate
It certainly appears so even though she looks as if butter would not melt in her mouth.
Horrifying.
Picture of the accused.

You and Syl disagree and I accept that we disagree. There are ways of reporting on arrests, charges and court cases. Some are written in a sensationalist style, some in a neutral style, and some are hidden.

John Doe · Still Here!

Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's a sad story all round. Sad for the children who died and their parents, sad for the family of the nurse who did it, and even sad for the nurse herself - to be in a place to do such a terrible thing.
Why exactly is it sad for the nurse?
Even if she is found insane she will be looked after 24/7 - unlike the babies who are now rotting corpses or ashes.
Why is it sad for her too? Come out of your blinkered mind-box and think about it some more.

You are honesty having a pop at me for not having empathy for a baby mass murderer?

Fuck off.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Rather than demonising an individual based on allegations why not wait for the judicial process to occur?
'Demonisng' her?

I interpret the following as demonising in terms of the title, what is written, the style of the writing and the presentation of the pictures.

John Doe wrote: The Face of Evil Incarnate
It certainly appears so even though she looks as if butter would not melt in her mouth.
Horrifying.
Picture of the accused.

You and Syl disagree and I accept that we disagree. There are ways of reporting on arrests, charges and court cases. Some are written in a sensationalist style, some in a neutral style, and some are hidden.

I disagree that I have said anything that hasn't already been splashed all over the papers.

I am aware that the woman hasn't been found guilty as yet.

I am also aware that after being arrested three times and now charged with the murders of eight babies and attempted murders of 10 babies, the CPS must have very strong evidence against her that they believe can be proven in a court of law.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's a sad story all round. Sad for the children who died and their parents, sad for the family of the nurse who did it, and even sad for the nurse herself - to be in a place to do such a terrible thing.
Why exactly is it sad for the nurse?
Even if she is found insane she will be looked after 24/7 - unlike the babies who are now rotting corpses or ashes.
Why is it sad for her too? Come out of your blinkered mind-box and think about it some more.
You are honesty having a pop at me for not having empathy for a baby mass murderer?
Fuck off.

My sympathies lie with the parents and family members of the poor babies who didn't have a chance to live, and who knows what damage was caused to the 10 babies who didn't die?

IF this woman is found guilty, I very much doubt whether many people will have sympathy for her.

If anyone does....that's their business.

Digger · Admin

Anonymous wrote:
Only religious people believe in evil. She has been charged but as yet nothing has been proven in court. Rather than demonising an individual based on allegations why not wait for the judicial process to occur?

I believe in evil and I'm not religious.