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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Should men be fined for catcalling women?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

My generation of women grew up being whistled and 'catcalled' at.
Personally, I did find it offensive if some oik felt entitled to comment on my 'melons' to the amusement of his mates, and I know plenty other women did too...but it was accepted as a mans right to make comments like this.

No more....good thing or bad?

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
My generation of women grew up being whistled and 'catcalled' at.
Personally, I did find it offensive if some oik felt entitled to comment on my 'melons' to the amusement of his mates, and I know plenty other women did too...but it was accepted as a mans right to make comments like this.

No more....good thing or bad?

I hated it, especially walking past a building site. I used to walk bent shoulders to hide my bust when 15.

Being whistled usually turned me into Dick Emery and trip lol.

I think it's good it's all stopped. Mind you at my age I wouldn't mind a whistle now

Digger · Admin

I can't say it bothered me. I rarely got derogatory hoots from builders, mostly phwoars, alright love's, and whistles. Now I don't get those I can look back with rosy tinted specs.

I think there's a thin line between male appreciation and lecherous behaviour. So it's perhaps best to err on the side of caution. I would not arrest men for whistling. But I would see them arrested for stalking or being a pest.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
My generation of women grew up being whistled and 'catcalled' at.
Personally, I did find it offensive if some oik felt entitled to comment on my 'melons' to the amusement of his mates, and I know plenty other women did too...but it was accepted as a mans right to make comments like this.

No more....good thing or bad?
I hated it, especially walking past a building site. I used to walk bent shoulders to hide my bust when 15.

Being whistled usually turned me into Dick Emery and trip lol.

I think it's good it's all stopped. Mind you at my age I wouldn't mind a whistle now

Building sites....they were a bloody nightmare to walk past. I did the 'Mandy' trip up a few times too Mags.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Digger wrote:
I can't say it bothered me. I rarely got derogatory hoots from builders, mostly phwoars, alright love's, and whistles. Now I don't get those I can look back with rosy tinted specs.

I think there's a thin line between male appreciation and lecherous behaviour. So it's perhaps best to err on the side of caution. I would not arrest men for whistling. But I would see them arrested for stalking or being a pest.

I agree male appreciation and lecherous behaviour is different...unfortunately not all men can understand that.

We live in a different world now, I'm glad that it's frowned upon nowadays to make women feel intimidated or embarrassed by calling out after her.

We older women handled it because we had to, and I also think whistling isn't in the same category as some hairy arsed builder shouting "Show us your tits love" which most women have never welcomed, unless of course they are being paid to do so.

Digger · Admin

I did the old Dick Emery all the time even without the building sites

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Digger wrote:
I did the old Dick Emery all the time even without the building sites

Me too...and that's why I threw away my stilettos years ago.

Digger · Admin

Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
I did the old Dick Emery all the time even without the building sites
Me too...and that's why I threw away my stilettos years ago.

The very thought of staggering along in stilettoes now gives me the vapours

Vita · Know It All

I tried to skive off school once by getting deliberately wet in the rain, the headmaster felt my skirt to see if it was as wet as I was making out and said "I hope I don't end up in the News of the World" and we both laughed.

Now he would probably be sacked, named and shamed with the obligatory sad faces from the "victims" family in the paper.

Whistling is fine, lecherous auld gits making remarks that make you feel uncomfortable are not.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Vita wrote:
I tried to skive off school once by getting deliberately wet in the rain, the headmaster felt my skirt to see if it was as wet as I was making out and said "I hope I don't end up in the News of the World" and we both laughed.
Now he would probably be sacked, named and shamed with the obligatory sad faces from the "victims" family in the paper.
Whistling is fine, lecherous auld gits making remarks that make you feel uncomfortable are not.

Whistling was never offensive in my book, but it's not really necessary, and I think any man still doing it probably needs to stop.

Anything that makes women uncomfortable shouldn't be seen as acceptable nowadays, we have evolved from the days when women were second class citizens and ruled by men.

I don't think it's the norm now anyway...years ago my son said, when he worked on a building site, the days of whistling at passing women was not done, and the odd one that did it was told off.

Date: Jul 15 1:49 PM, 2023

Syl wrote:

Building sites....they were a bloody nightmare to walk past. I did the 'Mandy' trip up a few times too Mags.

okay…so, doing a Mandy trip up - had no idea what that is, so I checked it out. And I found ‘Mandy - Dick Emery’ on YouTube
I have questions…inc how many blokes did you deck when you did a Mandy, Syl?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 15th of July 2023 02:40:54 PM

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:

-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 15th of July 2023 02:40:54 PM

Brilliant comedian!

Digger · Admin

Honky Tonks! I'd forgotten about him

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Apparently, on some building sites this is still common practice.
Women who have to pass a Salford building site are complaining bitterly about all the remarks they have to endure as they pass.

"A woman who walks past a building site to get to work has said she is being sexually harassed on a regular basis and now has "high levels of anxiety".

She is one of more than 10 who told a councillor they had experienced lewd jeers or gestures from some Legacie workers on Ordsall Lane in Salford.

A nearby flat resident said she had to "hide behind the sofa" to try to stop a worker taking photos as he stared in.

Legacie Developments said it would take action over inappropriate behaviour.

Liberal Democrats Councillor Alex Warren has been looking into reports of sexual harassment linked to the Legacie construction site on Ordsall Lane for over a year.

He said he had been "flooded with messages".

Alison* told BBC Radio Manchester she had been "wolf-whistled, honked at and [they] shout sexual remarks at me".

She said site workers "made comments about my appearance" and remarked they wanted to "bend me over".

Street harassment: 'I’m a woman walking to work – leave me alone' - BBC News

Maddog · Go Outside

Seems to me there is a better way to handle this.

Folks running construction companies don't need bad publicity.

If a bunch of men on a construction site around here yelled enough trash at a woman walking by to upset her, she could march right up to the site and ask to speak to someone in charge.

This all boils down to not being able to be rude to people while on the clock. You're getting paid to lay bricks not analyze the female anatomy of passers-bys .

-- Edited by Maddog on Monday 17th of July 2023 04:01:33 PM

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Seems to me there is a better way to handle this.

Folks running construction companies don't need bad publicity.

If a bunch of men on a construction site around here yelled enough trash at a woman walking by to upset her, she could march right up to the site and ask to speak to someone in charge.

This all boils down to not being able to be rude to people while on the clock. You're getting paid to lay bricks not analyze the female anatomy of passers-bys .

-- Edited by Maddog on Monday 17th of July 2023 04:01:33 PM

Yes, I said before, years ago, my son worked on a building site, and it was considered really bad practice to cat call or whistle after women.

Obviously, on some sites, they are getting away with it.

This construction site had complaints over a year ago, seems they dont act on them.

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Apparently, on some building sites this is still common practice.
Women who have to pass a Salford building site are complaining bitterly about all the remarks they have to endure as they pass.

"A woman who walks past a building site to get to work has said she is being sexually harassed on a regular basis and now has "high levels of anxiety".

She is one of more than 10 who told a councillor they had experienced lewd jeers or gestures from some Legacie workers on Ordsall Lane in Salford.

A nearby flat resident said she had to "hide behind the sofa" to try to stop a worker taking photos as he stared in.

Legacie Developments said it would take action over inappropriate behaviour.

Liberal Democrats Councillor Alex Warren has been looking into reports of sexual harassment linked to the Legacie construction site on Ordsall Lane for over a year.

He said he had been "flooded with messages".

Alison* told BBC Radio Manchester she had been "wolf-whistled, honked at and [they] shout sexual remarks at me".

She said site workers "made comments about my appearance" and remarked they wanted to "bend me over".

Street harassment: 'I’m a woman walking to work – leave me alone' - BBC News

Where is this, i.must walk past

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Apparently, on some building sites this is still common practice.
Women who have to pass a Salford building site are complaining bitterly about all the remarks they have to endure as they pass.

"A woman who walks past a building site to get to work has said she is being sexually harassed on a regular basis and now has "high levels of anxiety".

She is one of more than 10 who told a councillor they had experienced lewd jeers or gestures from some Legacie workers on Ordsall Lane in Salford.

A nearby flat resident said she had to "hide behind the sofa" to try to stop a worker taking photos as he stared in.

Legacie Developments said it would take action over inappropriate behaviour.

Liberal Democrats Councillor Alex Warren has been looking into reports of sexual harassment linked to the Legacie construction site on Ordsall Lane for over a year.

He said he had been "flooded with messages".

Alison* told BBC Radio Manchester she had been "wolf-whistled, honked at and [they] shout sexual remarks at me".

She said site workers "made comments about my appearance" and remarked they wanted to "bend me over".

Street harassment: 'I’m a woman walking to work – leave me alone' - BBC News
Where is this, i.must walk past

If they shouted to you to bend over, you would probably do your back in Mags....best steer clear.