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Maddog · Go Outside

RE: Is Britain broken?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
It is low, I just checked, and surprisingly...

"What percentage of the population pay income tax? The UK tax system relies on taxpayers contributing some of their earnings to pay for public goods and services. 47% of the UK population is a 'Non-Taxpayer' but this includes all children, students, and the elderly."

A lot of elderly obviously do pay tax on income.
If it exceeds the limit they still pay taxes.
40% of American households don't pay income tax. So that number doesn't include kids.

So a higher % don't pay taxes in the US than here....no wonder Judge Judy complains that she is providing the lifestyle for so many.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
It is low, I just checked, and surprisingly...

"What percentage of the population pay income tax? The UK tax system relies on taxpayers contributing some of their earnings to pay for public goods and services. 47% of the UK population is a 'Non-Taxpayer' but this includes all children, students, and the elderly."

A lot of elderly obviously do pay tax on income.
If it exceeds the limit they still pay taxes.
40% of American households don't pay income tax. So that number doesn't include kids.

So a higher % don't pay taxes in the US than here....no wonder Judge Judy complains that she is providing the lifestyle for so many.

Yeah, at least income taxes. I don't think the poor should pay much, but a little makes them at least question what it's being soent on

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Poor shouldn't pay taxes, but I wonder how many people are poor because they don't work when they are able to?
I think your benefit system is as badly used as ours is...probably more.

Digger · Admin

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
It is low, I just checked, and surprisingly...

"What percentage of the population pay income tax? The UK tax system relies on taxpayers contributing some of their earnings to pay for public goods and services. 47% of the UK population is a 'Non-Taxpayer' but this includes all children, students, and the elderly."

A lot of elderly obviously do pay tax on income.
If it exceeds the limit they still pay taxes.
40% of American households don't pay income tax. So that number doesn't include kids.

So a higher % don't pay taxes in the US than here....no wonder Judge Judy complains that she is providing the lifestyle for so many.

Yeah, at least income taxes. I don't think the poor should pay much, but a little makes them at least question what it's being soent on

We have a tax personal allowance of £12.570 in the UK. But 12K is not really a good wage to live off if you live alone.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

It seems that lessons haven't been learnt at all.

"Police have told migrants to adhere to “cultural expectations” following reports they were loitering outside a primary school.

The force pledged to work with a hotel housing asylum seekers and step up patrols after the reports of “suspicious activity” in the village of Deanshanger.

Migrants have been staying in a hotel outside the village for around three years and are among thousands living in temporary accommodation across the country.

Following concerns, Sgt Lorna Clarke from the neighbourhood policing team issued an update to residents in which she confirmed the force had received “several calls” from people “concerned about males hanging around the primary school at drop-off and pick-up”.

Sgt Lorna Clark from the Police have told migrants to adhere to “cultural expectations” following reports they were loitering outside a primary school.

Northamptonshire Police said it would “deliver some work” around “appropriate behaviours” following complaints of men “hanging around” near the school.

However, in recent months there has been increasing concern over young men loitering near Deanshanger Primary School, including claims of filming.

" Sgt Lorna Clarke from the neighbourhood policing team said they had not identified a risk to anyone"

Asylum seekers loitering outside school is ‘cultural’ issue, say police

-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 25th of January 2025 03:22:07 PM

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
It seems that lessons haven't been learnt at all.

"Police have told migrants to adhere to “cultural expectations” following reports they were loitering outside a primary school.

The force pledged to work with a hotel housing asylum seekers and step up patrols after the reports of “suspicious activity” in the village of Deanshanger.

Migrants have been staying in a hotel outside the village for around three years and are among thousands living in temporary accommodation across the country.

Following concerns, Sgt Lorna Clarke from the neighbourhood policing team issued an update to residents in which she confirmed the force had received “several calls” from people “concerned about males hanging around the primary school at drop-off and pick-up”.

Sgt Lorna Clark from the Police have told migrants to adhere to “cultural expectations” following reports they were loitering outside a primary school.

Northamptonshire Police said it would “deliver some work” around “appropriate behaviours” following complaints of men “hanging around” near the school.

However, in recent months there has been increasing concern over young men loitering near Deanshanger Primary School, including claims of filming.

" Sgt Lorna Clarke from the neighbourhood policing team said they had not identified a risk to anyone"

Asylum seekers loitering outside school is ‘cultural’ issue, say police

-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 25th of January 2025 03:22:07 PM

Our police are woke and bloody useless! They do nothing. Wait until some poor girl is attacked, then they will make up excuses. Illegals taking pictures of them.

No one is safe here anymore. Starmer is useless!

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Seems one lot are jailed (well a minority of them are) and another batch come over.

I wonder where are the wives and girlfriends of these asylum seekers who are being accommodated in all these hotels?

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Seems one lot are jailed (well a minority of them are) and another batch come over.

I wonder where are the wives and girlfriends of these asylum seekers who are being accommodated in all these hotels?

Oh they will all be over once they get asylum!

Red Okktober · Getting Gobby

Britain's population is set to reach 72.5 million by 2032. That's an increase of 4.9 million since 2022.

That's an increase of 9.9% over 10 years. You don't have to be great at maths to see where this is heading.

Britain is the same size as it's always been, so it means we will just become more crowded and more pressure will be put on our infrastructure. Longer NHS queues, more children in classrooms etc, and where will they all live? Labour have already promised an unreachable number of new homes, but even if their fantasy figures were possible, they still wouldn't be able to keep up

Red Okktober · Getting Gobby

Meanwhile, that other daft twat in the cabinet, Yvette Cooper, wants to expand non-crime hate incidents, to take up even more police time.

This is where if someone says something that upsets another person, and someone else claims it is because they are part of a minority group, the police will become involved

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/11/22/home-secretary-yvette-copper-allison-pearson-row-telegraph/

Magica · Go Outside

Red Okktober wrote:
Meanwhile, that other daft twat in the cabinet, Yvette Cooper, wants to expand non-crime hate incidents, to take up even more police time.

This is where if someone says something that upsets another person, and someone else claims it is because they are part of a minority group, the police will become involved

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/11/22/home-secretary-yvette-copper-allison-pearson-row-telegraph/

it's all bloody woke here!

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Red Okktober wrote:
Britain's population is set to reach 72.5 million by 2032. That's an increase of 4.9 million since 2022.

That's an increase of 9.9% over 10 years. You don't have to be great at maths to see where this is heading.

Britain is the same size as it's always been, so it means we will just become more crowded and more pressure will be put on our infrastructure. Longer NHS queues, more children in classrooms etc, and where will they all live? Labour have already promised an unreachable number of new homes, but even if their fantasy figures were possible, they still wouldn't be able to keep up

Is that just estimating legal immigration? I wonder if they have included illegal, refugees, asylum seekers?

Also, considering the vast numbers of Muslims entering, have they considered the birth rate once here, culturally they have much larger families than the British.

In 7 years time they will probably admit they got the figures wrong, along with everything else.

Red Okktober · Getting Gobby

Syl wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
Britain's population is set to reach 72.5 million by 2032. That's an increase of 4.9 million since 2022.

That's an increase of 9.9% over 10 years. You don't have to be great at maths to see where this is heading.

Britain is the same size as it's always been, so it means we will just become more crowded and more pressure will be put on our infrastructure. Longer NHS queues, more children in classrooms etc, and where will they all live? Labour have already promised an unreachable number of new homes, but even if their fantasy figures were possible, they still wouldn't be able to keep up
Is that just estimating legal immigration? I wonder if they have included illegal, refugees, asylum seekers?
Also, considering the vast numbers of Muslims entering, have they considered the birth rate once here, culturally they have much larger families than the British.
In 7 years time they will probably admit they got the figures wrong, along with everything else.

The figures are based on estimated net migration, so are probably quite conservative. I don't think things like illegals or birth rates are taken into account.

Considering that many of these people will come from exotic corners of the planet, where western values aren't exactly a priority, then we can see where society is heading and the cultural changes that will affect future generations.

The current government seems to be pulling out all the stops to make the future as bleak as possible.

I'm glad I'll be dead and was born when I was.

Magica · Go Outside

Me too Red, I hate the way this country has gione. Cons did nothing, Starker is worse. Welcome to a bloody Islamic country in the future. 🙄

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Odd that according to the last census 21/22, less than 6.5% of the UK population identify as Muslim, yet for the last 2 years Muhammad has been the most popular name given to baby boys....how does that work?

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Odd that according to the last census 21/22, less than 6.5% of the UK population identify as Muslim, yet for the last 2 years Muhammad has been the most popular name given to baby boys....how does that work?

Exactly Syl

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Odd that according to the last census 21/22, less than 6.5% of the UK population identify as Muslim, yet for the last 2 years Muhammad has been the most popular name given to baby boys....how does that work?

Because gringos choose from 3,486 different names.

Muslims name every 3rd boy Muhammad. They get zero points for creativity..

Digger · Admin

Red Okktober wrote:
Syl wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
Britain's population is set to reach 72.5 million by 2032. That's an increase of 4.9 million since 2022.

That's an increase of 9.9% over 10 years. You don't have to be great at maths to see where this is heading.

Britain is the same size as it's always been, so it means we will just become more crowded and more pressure will be put on our infrastructure. Longer NHS queues, more children in classrooms etc, and where will they all live? Labour have already promised an unreachable number of new homes, but even if their fantasy figures were possible, they still wouldn't be able to keep up
Is that just estimating legal immigration? I wonder if they have included illegal, refugees, asylum seekers?
Also, considering the vast numbers of Muslims entering, have they considered the birth rate once here, culturally they have much larger families than the British.
In 7 years time they will probably admit they got the figures wrong, along with everything else.
The figures are based on estimated net migration, so are probably quite conservative. I don't think things like illegals or birth rates are taken into account.
Considering that many of these people will come from exotic corners of the planet, where western values aren't exactly a priority, then we can see where society is heading and the cultural changes that will affect future generations.
The current government seems to be pulling out all the stops to make the future as bleak as possible.
I'm glad I'll be dead and was born when I was.

I'd hate to be a teenager now. Absolutely hate it.

Date: Jan 28 10:18 PM, 2025

“ A woman who wheeled her daughter’s body around in a pram could have her sentence for allowing the youngster’s death increased at the Court of Appeal as “unduly lenient”.

Chelsea Gleason-Mitchell, 24, was jailed for 10 years in December last year after pleading guilty to child cruelty and causing or allowing the death of her two-year-old daughter, Isabella Wheildon, at the hands of her partner, Scott Jeff.

The pair then continued to wheel Isabella’s body around in a pushchair before leaving her in a bathroom at a hostel for the homeless in Ipswich in June 2023.

But Gleason-Mitchell’s sentence could now be increased after Solicitor General Lucy Rigby agreed to refer the case to the Court of Appeal following a request from shadow safeguarding minister Alicia Kearns.“ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clynqdwnxq1o

Good. Allowing the abuse, wheeling her dead child around then dumping her body like trash is only worth 10 years. She should have received the same sentence as her boyfriend, she is just as guilty of murder as he is.