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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Smoking and vaping may soon be banned in pub beer gardens.

Date: Aug 29 1:45 PM, 2024

Syl wrote:
Is this a good idea or a bad one?

If you're a pub landlord a bad one. If you're a smoker a bad one. If you don't smoke a good one.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I dont' smoke, and I hate eating near smokers, but pub gardens are usually big enough to accomodate everyone, so all in all, I think it's a bad idea.

Not sure how the average landlord could police that either.

Maddog · Go Outside

Dumb idea.

Therefore it will be implemented.

I guess all of the serious problems have already been addressed in the UK, and they need to focus on the trivial..😉

Magica · Go Outside

Dictator Starker is banning smoking everywhere, disgusting. Pushed them into the open, now banning that. It's not a free country anymore.

I don't smoke, but I can't see the harm in them smoking outside, they had no choice.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Magica wrote:
Dictator Starker is banning smoking everywhere, disgusting. Pushed them into the open, now banning that. It's not a free country anymore.

I don't smoke, but I can't see the harm in them smoking outside, they had no choice.

Another feather in the cap for nanny state supporters.

There was obviously a need to ban smoking inside, second hand smoking is a real worry, especially for young and vulnerable. But if people want to smoke in their own homes, it's up to them.

If people want to smoke outside, even in hospital grounds, that should also be up to them.

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Dictator Starker is banning smoking everywhere, disgusting. Pushed them into the open, now banning that. It's not a free country anymore.

I don't smoke, but I can't see the harm in them smoking outside, they had no choice.

Another feather in the cap for nanny state supporters.
There was obviously a need to ban smoking inside, second hand smoking is a real worry, especially for young and vulnerable. But if people want to smoke in their own homes, it's up to them.
If people want to smoke outside, even in hospital grounds, that should also be up to them.

I think pubs will suffer more again. Many have had shelters built for smokers, now they will be useless. Restaurants and cafes also. They are doing no harm to anyone.

How can they stop it tbh, will they police all streets?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Dictator Starker is banning smoking everywhere, disgusting. Pushed them into the open, now banning that. It's not a free country anymore.

I don't smoke, but I can't see the harm in them smoking outside, they had no choice.

Another feather in the cap for nanny state supporters.
There was obviously a need to ban smoking inside, second hand smoking is a real worry, especially for young and vulnerable. But if people want to smoke in their own homes, it's up to them.
If people want to smoke outside, even in hospital grounds, that should also be up to them.

I think pubs will suffer more again. Many have had shelters built for smokers, now they will be useless. Restaurants and cafes also. They are doing no harm to anyone.
How can they stop it tbh, will they police all streets?

The book/film Faranheight 451 comes to mind when governments try to take away citizens rights.

Remember a few years ago when neighbours were asked to spy on others to try to catch benefit scroungers out?

No one likes benefit scroungers, but asking people to dob their neighbours in is far worse imo.

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Dictator Starker is banning smoking everywhere, disgusting. Pushed them into the open, now banning that. It's not a free country anymore.

I don't smoke, but I can't see the harm in them smoking outside, they had no choice.

Another feather in the cap for nanny state supporters.
There was obviously a need to ban smoking inside, second hand smoking is a real worry, especially for young and vulnerable. But if people want to smoke in their own homes, it's up to them.
If people want to smoke outside, even in hospital grounds, that should also be up to them.

I think pubs will suffer more again. Many have had shelters built for smokers, now they will be useless. Restaurants and cafes also. They are doing no harm to anyone.
How can they stop it tbh, will they police all streets?
The book/film Faranheight 451 comes to mind when governments try to take away citizens rights.
Remember a few years ago when neighbours were asked to spy on others to try to catch benefit scroungers out?
No one likes benefit scroungers, but asking people to dob their neighbours in is far worse imo.

Yeah I do. I hate how this country is.now and has been for a very long time.

jackb · 1000 Posts!?

You will own nothing!
Maybe we'll own no rights either but they forgot to tell us...

Magica · Go Outside

jackb wrote:
You will own nothing!
Maybe we'll own no rights either but they forgot to tell us...

Yep, we are being stripped of all our rights, bit by bit! I hate Stalinmer😠

Digger · Admin

I don't smoke but i think it's going too far

Vita · Know It All

It's almost three years since I stopped smoking 🚬 so the ban doesn't affect but it's getting to much like a Nanny State for my liking.

It will be booze and sugar next.

He's shaping up to be one of the worst Prime minister's ever and he's only been in office a few months.

Magica · Go Outside

Vita wrote:
It's almost three years since I stopped smoking 🚬 so the ban doesn't affect but it's getting to much like a Nanny State for my liking.
It will be booze and sugar next.
He's shaping up to be one of the worst Prime minister's ever and he's only been in office a few months.

It's gone to his head. He's a dictator, traitor and Bliar pulling his strings. Worse PM since Bliar. They are in it together.

Digger · Admin

Magica wrote:
Vita wrote:
It's almost three years since I stopped smoking 🚬 so the ban doesn't affect but it's getting to much like a Nanny State for my liking.
It will be booze and sugar next.
He's shaping up to be one of the worst Prime minister's ever and he's only been in office a few months.

It's gone to his head. He's a dictator, traitor and Bliar pulling his strings. Worse PM since Bliar. They are in it together.

and the poor ickle soul couldn't face Maggie staring down accusingly at him every day

Vita · Know It All

Magica wrote:
Vita wrote:
It's almost three years since I stopped smoking 🚬 so the ban doesn't affect but it's getting to much like a Nanny State for my liking.
It will be booze and sugar next.
He's shaping up to be one of the worst Prime minister's ever and he's only been in office a few months.

It's gone to his head. He's a dictator, traitor and Bliar pulling his strings. Worse PM since Bliar. They are in it together.

He's gone power mad, there is memes of him online like that wee dictator in North Korea.

That will be us next, all with bad haircuts the same and feart to say anything.

😕

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I think he is far too weak to be a tyrant or a dictator....no matter how hard he is trying to appear strong and powerful.
He reminds me of a bully, and a bully is usually a coward surrounded by yes men.
Once the yes men have had enough, he will have nothing.

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I think he is far too weak to be a tyrant or a dictator....no matter how hard he is trying to appear strong and powerful.
He reminds me of a bully, and a bully is usually a coward surrounded by yes men.
Once the yes men have had enough, he will have nothing.

He will be ousted by his own party before Christmas imo.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
I think he is far too weak to be a tyrant or a dictator....no matter how hard he is trying to appear strong and powerful.
He reminds me of a bully, and a bully is usually a coward surrounded by yes men.
Once the yes men have had enough, he will have nothing.
He will be ousted by his own party before Christmas imo.

The problem is, who is going to take over if he is?

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
I think he is far too weak to be a tyrant or a dictator....no matter how hard he is trying to appear strong and powerful.
He reminds me of a bully, and a bully is usually a coward surrounded by yes men.
Once the yes men have had enough, he will have nothing.
He will be ousted by his own party before Christmas imo.
The problem is, who is going to take over if he is?

I have no idea, but surely can't be worse than him!

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