ChaoticMusings

 

jackb wrote:

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While you pretend the old man hasn't been and isn't creeping into your life do you go around wearing young mans clothes to convince yourself he's years away yet?

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American culture is obsessed with looking and acting young, it's just the way it goes.

Maddog wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Weight gain is not always about eating too much cheese burgers. My friend (ahem) is in their early 40's and prior to being forty was used to being 7 and a half stone without having to watch what they eat. They got covid and the week after I guess karma came knocking. No more dairy allowed. The nurse told her it had happened to a few people. Pounds started piling on despite her eating far less kcal than b4 and she started intensive training on her exercise bike. Thankfully the weight gain stopped shy of 9 stone, her weight is fine for her height but she has to maintain a strict vegan diet. She really misses coffee with cream. Anyhoo I digress. Weight gain isn't always binge eating fast food , sometimes metabolic changes happen akin to a side effect of an illness. The less she eat and the more she trained the more pounds she put on! Covid was a chemical weapon imo, our neighbour lost the ability to walk and needed intensive rehab. Just reminding u that ppl CAN gain weight through no fault of their own.

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 No kidding? 

 

People's metabolism alows down when they age?🙄

 

And weight isn't always a good indicator of health..Fat percentage and performance is..

 

It doesn't matter what a woman looks like or weighs, if she can't do 10 push-ups, she's not in shape..

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 Let me tell you something.   When I was a professional dancer, I was super fit.   I could run up several flights of stairs two at a time and not even be breathless at the top.  My average dancing performance to live music was 40  minutes non stop using just about every muscle in my body and I did that most nights.  On top of that I taught several classes  a week and workshops at the weekends.   But I couldn't do press ups.   I've never been able to do press ups.   

Digger wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Weight gain is not always about eating too much cheese burgers. My friend (ahem) is in their early 40's and prior to being forty was used to being 7 and a half stone without having to watch what they eat. They got covid and the week after I guess karma came knocking. No more dairy allowed. The nurse told her it had happened to a few people. Pounds started piling on despite her eating far less kcal than b4 and she started intensive training on her exercise bike. Thankfully the weight gain stopped shy of 9 stone, her weight is fine for her height but she has to maintain a strict vegan diet. She really misses coffee with cream. Anyhoo I digress. Weight gain isn't always binge eating fast food , sometimes metabolic changes happen akin to a side effect of an illness. The less she eat and the more she trained the more pounds she put on! Covid was a chemical weapon imo, our neighbour lost the ability to walk and needed intensive rehab. Just reminding u that ppl CAN gain weight through no fault of their own.

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 No kidding? 

 

People's metabolism alows down when they age?🙄

 

And weight isn't always a good indicator of health..Fat percentage and performance is..

 

It doesn't matter what a woman looks like or weighs, if she can't do 10 push-ups, she's not in shape..

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 Let me tell you something.   When I was a professional dancer, I was super fit.   I could run up several flights of stairs two at a time and not even be breathless at the top.  My average dancing performance to live music was 40  minutes non stop using just about every muscle in my body and I did that most nights.  On top of that I taught several classes  a week and workshops at the weekends.   But I couldn't do press ups.   I've never been able to do press ups.   

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 You probably did nothing to build your upper body strength..

 

Sorta like a cyclist.

 

I imagine you could have done 10 with a month of working your upper body, considering you were already athletic.

 

Like I said many pages back, it's very difficult to get women of a certain age to even consider weight training and the kind of activities that make them functionally strong. So they don't do it and they suffer debilitating injuries or conditions in the latter years.. Osteoporosis being a significant one..

Maddog wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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jackb wrote:

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While you pretend the old man hasn't been and isn't creeping into your life do you go around wearing young mans clothes to convince yourself he's years away yet?

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American culture is obsessed with looking and acting young, it's just the way it goes.

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 What is wrong with trying to stay young at heart and youthful, you crusty old fart?

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I just want to add my penny's worth.   Both viewpoints are fine by me and both have meaning and relevance.   Criticism of one viewpoint over another is fine if it is made in a light-hearted manner but over egging the criticism suggests something like OCD within the person overegging it.

 

Trying to be healthy and fit and supple no matter one's age seems to be a good thing but granted some take it too far and end up killing themselves.  Far east philosophy suggests balance.

 

On a separate note today's society as presented in the media etc is ageist.   Opportunities diminish as a result of ageism.  

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Digger wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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Digger wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Weight gain is not always about eating too much cheese burgers. My friend (ahem) is in their early 40's and prior to being forty was used to being 7 and a half stone without having to watch what they eat. They got covid and the week after I guess karma came knocking. No more dairy allowed. The nurse told her it had happened to a few people. Pounds started piling on despite her eating far less kcal than b4 and she started intensive training on her exercise bike. Thankfully the weight gain stopped shy of 9 stone, her weight is fine for her height but she has to maintain a strict vegan diet. She really misses coffee with cream. Anyhoo I digress. Weight gain isn't always binge eating fast food , sometimes metabolic changes happen akin to a side effect of an illness. The less she eat and the more she trained the more pounds she put on! Covid was a chemical weapon imo, our neighbour lost the ability to walk and needed intensive rehab. Just reminding u that ppl CAN gain weight through no fault of their own.

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 No kidding? 

 

People's metabolism alows down when they age?🙄

 

And weight isn't always a good indicator of health..Fat percentage and performance is..

 

It doesn't matter what a woman looks like or weighs, if she can't do 10 push-ups, she's not in shape..

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 Let me tell you something.   When I was a professional dancer, I was super fit.   I could run up several flights of stairs two at a time and not even be breathless at the top.  My average dancing performance to live music was 40  minutes non stop using just about every muscle in my body and I did that most nights.  On top of that I taught several classes  a week and workshops at the weekends.   But I couldn't do press ups.   I've never been able to do press ups.   

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 You probably did nothing to build your upper body strength..

 

Sorta like a cyclist.

 

I imagine you could have done 10 with a month of working your upper body, considering you were already athletic.

 

Like I said many pages back, it's very difficult to get women of a certain age to even consider weight training and the kind of activities that make them functionally strong. So they don't do it and they suffer debilitating injuries or conditions in the latter years.. Osteoporosis being a significant one..

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 Why would I want to build up my upper body?   Just so I could do a push up?   To prove I was fit?   As for bone density, any percussive exercise will help this.   

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 To be functionally strong. You may want to pick up something heavy.🤷

 

I really don't know what percussive exercise has to do with bone density. I know what strength training does for it though.

 

 

"Weight lifting, or strength training, can significantly improve and maintain bone density by stimulating bone-forming cells and increasing mechanical stress on bones, which can help offset age-related bone loss and reduce the risk of osteoporosis."

 

Syl wrote:

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You are the last person who should ever be suffering from OA....and yet you are.

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 osteoarthritis is different than osteoporosis.

 

I have some of the former in my right knee, but it's well under control and has no impact on my life.

 

One of the reasons I got serous about my health was I had severe knee pain a few years ago. That's gone..

Syl wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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You are the last person who should ever be suffering from OA....and yet you are.

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 osteoarthritis is different than osteoporosis.

 

I have some of the former in my right knee, but it's well under control and has no impact on my life.

 

One of the reasons I got serous about my health was I had severe knee pain a few years ago. That's gone..

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 Yes I know the differences, but you advocated weight training for both. 

I do weights, just not heavy ones, and I would have had bad OA even if I had lifted much heavier weights, in fact it would have probably worsened quicker than it did.

 

As for push ups, like Digger, I could never do them either, even though I was (till fairly recently) very active. But sit us are a different matter....I can do hem for fun.

 

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 OK. 🤷

"You need all three major types of exercise. But if you had to choose just one, there’s a good argument to be made for strength training. That’s because it’s crucial for building the muscles that support and protect joints. Unfortunately, you lose muscle mass as you age — about 3% to 5% a decade after age 30. Men, even very fit ones, lose as much as 30% of their muscle over a lifetime. In women, muscle loss accelerates after menopause, yet 1 one in 5 women of any age trains with weights. For both women and men, strength training, along with plenty of protein – around 30 grams three times a day — is the best way to regain lost muscle and prevent future loss. Some of the latest research suggests that a healthy microbiome may also help maintain lean muscle mass, but strength training is by far the most studied option right now. Exercise machines, free weights, resistance bands and your own body weight are all effective"


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