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Maddog wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Digger wrote:

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There's always an 'expert'.  Butter kills you.  Butter is good for you.   Red meat gives you cancer.  Red meat is not cancer causing.   Here, take this drug, it's safe as houses.  What's it called?  Thalidomide. 

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 Exactly. You can drive yourself batty following these so called experts…one week saying one thing, the next claiming the opposite. Hell, you can’t always get these so called experts to agree on the same thing. I do what works for me whether that’s food and/or exercise. My level of fitness and my general diet may not be everyone’s cup of tea but it works for me.

 

 

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 There's always data. 

 

We have a good idea of what is healthy.

 

Find me some data that suggests exercise isn't good for you, and I'll look at it..

 

 

In fact, find anything that refutes anything I have presented and I'll look at it.

 

That's a far better response than just saying you don't like what the evidence says because it challenges your life choices.

 

Here's the general consensus on here. 

 

"I don't like lifting weights, its dumb"

 

"I don't do things I don't want to to do"

 

"Lifting weights is dumb, or ineffective, or silly no matter what anyone says, because I don't want to do it" 

 

 

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  Not sure why you’re getting in a strop. So you exercise, good for you.  I don’t need to watch or read endless vids/articles on the benefits of exercise/diet…just as no one has to tell me not to put my hand in the fire because it’ll burn.

Not watching your vid links or not hanging onto every word a so called expert claims doesn’t mean folks are ignorant re health issues. 

Like I said my level of fitness and my general diet may not be everyone’s cup of tea but it works for me. My life, my choice…as simple as that.

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And people should be free to put their hands in the fire if they like. 

 

What would you say to someone who said they could put their hand in the fire and it wouldn't burn? 

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 Scuppered your own argument with that one sentence.

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 Not hardly.

I have never suggested people aren't free to exercise poor judgement. 

They are just not free to defend it..

Maddog wrote:

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jackb wrote:

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Dr. Ken Berry: I Can Easily Predict Your Future with THIS One Test

It's about getting your doc to do a fasting insulin test.

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" In the UK, an estimated 12.2 million people are living with diabetes or prediabetes. This includes 4.6 million with diagnosed diabetes, 1.3 million with undiagnosed diabetes, and 6.3 million with prediabetes. This means that roughly one in five UK adults are affected."

 

 

 

You can do the same with a blood glucose test. Everyone over say 50 should know what that number is, as high levels of glucose are spiking your insulin which does cause a myriad of problems.  

 

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 No different test different result.

A glucose test gives you glucose blood results for last three months this is nothing like that.

Maddog wrote:

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" In the UK, an estimated 12.2 million people are living with diabetes or prediabetes. This includes 4.6 million with diagnosed diabetes, 1.3 million with undiagnosed diabetes, and 6.3 million with prediabetes. This means that roughly one in five UK adults are affected."

 You can do the same with a blood glucose test. Everyone over say 50 should know what that number is, as high levels of glucose are spiking your insulin which does cause a myriad of problems.  

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 You can prevent type 2 diabetes by injecting yourself with Ribena.

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Of course, drinking is sort going the way of smoking in the younger generations.

They drink far less than their parents.

I guess it's possible that they make it so socially unacceptable while the medical profession doubles down on the risks, that in 40 years alcohol consumption is rare and socially frowned upon..

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 I can't see that happening here.

More and more I do see people drinking socially at home rather than going to the pubs.

Bars and restaurants are still heaving here though....mainly for the young (bars) and for middle/older people who haven't been hit too hard by the recession (restaurants)

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"Nearly half of young people and one in every three middle-aged Britons no longer drink alcohol as health concerns, the growing Muslim population and “abstinence influencers” change Britain’s relationship with booze."


www.thetimes.com/uk/society/article/almost-half-of-young-people-no-longer-drink-alcohol-tp9g8z6gp


Your kids are acting like our kids..

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 I was going off the people I know and the places I go...maybe I mix with more sociable people.

I can see the growing Muslim population here might alter future stats of the way people drink. Oddly enough Grandson No2 is going out with a Muslim girl, she is very Westernised though, and does drink.

As for your figures ....depends where you get the stats from.

Around 20% of the population don’t drink at all – and this figure is increasing among young people in particular. Among those who do drink, patterns of consumption vary enormously:

• higher earners are more likely to drink than those on lower incomes
• older people are more likely to drink regularly
• men are more likely to ‘binge drink’ than women (though this is less the case among the young)

Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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"Nearly half of young people and one in every three middle-aged Britons no longer drink alcohol as health concerns, the growing Muslim population and “abstinence influencers” change Britain’s relationship with booze."


www.thetimes.com/uk/society/article/almost-half-of-young-people-no-longer-drink-alcohol-tp9g8z6gp


Your kids are acting like our kids..

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 I was going off the people I know and the places I go...maybe I mix with more sociable people.

I can see the growing Muslim population here might alter future stats of the way people drink. Oddly enough Grandson No2 is going out with a Muslim girl, she is very Westernised though, and does drink.

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 You mix with the fun people,  lol..

 

My GFs baby has been 21 for months (the legal age here) and rarely drinks. He doesn't like beer at all. He would have been a weirdo 40 years ago..Now he's pretty typical.  

 

It's probably for the best. While I'm not likely to quit anytime soon, I do think never drinking might be a pretty good idea. Especially since it no longer makes you a bit of an outcast   

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 I have a fun family and friends...and yes we all drink, most of us socially (though I always have wine with my tea at home) a couple overdo the drinking imo.

A society without alcohol wouldn't be a bad thing, but I can't see that happening in my, your or anyone who is alive today, lifetime.

Maddog said ... People born now may live 100 years.

I doubt it. Generally people's lifestyles are far less active than previous generations.
Food is filled with God knows what, people eat too much processed ready made rubbish, and depression is at an all time high in both men and women.
Add to that half the population here and where you are, are overweight...I imagine not many people born today will reach 100 years old.