Be a shame if it mysteriously ran aground or something similar..

jackb wrote:

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Why did South Korea's president declare martial law - and what now?

South Korea's president shocked the country on Tuesday night when, out of the blue, he declared martial law in the Asian democracy for the first time in nearly 50 years.

Yoon Suk Yeol's drastic decision - announced in a late-night TV broadcast - mentioned "anti-state forces" and the threat from North Korea.

But it soon became clear that it had not been spurred by external threats but by his own desperate political troubles.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0lgw1pw5zpo

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 Yeah, he blamed a foreign bogeyman for his domestic issues..

 

We've seen this movie 100 times around the world..

jackb wrote:

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Why are people pouring milk down the drain over a cow feed additive

Some UK social media users have been pouring milk down their sinks and toilets in protest at the trial of a new feed additive that claims to significantly reduce the emission of methane gas in dairy cows.

Arla Foods, a Danish-Swedish company which owns the UK’s biggest dairy cooperative, announced last week that 30 of its farms across the country would test the additive, named Bovaer.

The company says Bovaer - which is added in small quantities to cow feed - could reduce cow methane emissions by between 30-45%.

It has been approved for use by UK regulators, and several major supermarkets will stock milk produced by cattle eating feed with the additive.

Some online users have raised concerns around the use of Bovaer, citing issues around the safety of certain compounds used in it.

However, experts have told the BBC that the additive “does not pose any food safety issues”.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rjdgre3vpo

“does not pose any food safety issues”... the public and the farmers were told this once before and it turned out to be wrong.
We ended up with mad cow disease!

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 I tend to buy organic dairy, but I wouldn't buy anything with chemicals in it like this.  

jackb wrote:

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 Brian Thompson kills insurance CEO.

Young guy who murdered the CEO of Americas largest health insurance company.
He's been caught now but it seems he didn't really try to evade being caught.
A lot of people reckon he wants his day in court to tell the world how the now dead
CEO has built his latest mansion on dead bodies
having doubled in a year the amount of refusals to pay out what people had paid for.
There seems to be more sympathy for the killer than for the killed.
This is disturbing and must be quite unsettling for others in the CEO's position.

-- Edited by jackb on Tuesday 10th of December 2024 06:17:27 PM

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 He's basically seen as a Robin Hood figure over here by many  

 

I don't agree with killing the CEO but I understand the mentality of the young lefties in this country, and why they do.

 

They are convinced that we have the worst healthcare on the planet and putting our government in charge would mean free healthcare all the time without limits or waits.

 

They don't understand that healthcare is a service, and not immune from scarcity or delivery limited by costs.  

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He had this timed to within 5 minutes. DNA has been collected, but the NYPD isn’t sure that it’s his (a lot of people stay in hostels and this guy isn’t stupid). He was captured on camera, but all but one of the pictures are blurry, and in the one that isn’t, he tilted his head and showed only half of his face, which casts doubt on facial recognition and makes it a lot less dependable.

He also appears to be average height and slim, and minus a Yankees’ cap, he dressed like everyone else in the crime blotter. Dark clothes, nothing distinguishing, and he disappeared into Central Park, and it’s already been conceded he’s probably out of the city, and even if he’s still here, while the official census puts the population of NYC at about nine million, google heat maps—which were taken out of the public domain about three years ago—put the number at 20 million, and as a former census taker and resident, I believe it. 15 guys illegally sharing a studio apartment aren’t answering the door. People from countries with a history of fascism aren’t answering the door.

So you have a population of around 20 million, at least three million of whom could match his description, and millions more in the city and throughout the country who have been screwed over by UHC, the largest insurance company in the US and fourth largest corporation here overall.

Health insurance in the US has gotten so bad many people explicitly told me that if they knew who he was, they wouldn’t give up his identity.

Good luck finding this guy.

The chances of catching him decrease every minute and they weren’t good to begin with, many people are disgusted that when a “nobody” is shot, no one cares, but if it’s one of the wealthy, we suddenly have a bipartisan consensus that the perpetrator has to be caught, because apparently only rich people matter, and regardless of their rhetoric, they have the money and power, and want to maintain the status quo.

UHC has the highest denial rate of any insurance company here, so he and his corporation have killed thousands who already paid to be cared for, and UHC and their former CEO Brian Thompson have already been charged for criminal malfeasance, or deliberately and maliciously unlawfully denying coverage.

We have tens of millions of people with motive.

He and his upper tier employees are insulated from the deaths they’ve caused by layers of corporate bureaucracy, our government has done nothing but make it easier to deny coverage that again, we already paid for, so exactly what choice did the shooter have?

I’d wager one of his loved ones died because they were unfairly denied coverage, and after months or years of fighting for what they paid for, he finally snapped.

I don’t condone murder, but in this case, as it develops, I might.

At least the wealthy now know money doesn’t make them invulnerable, and while corporations have exploitation down to a science, or have learned how to give the bare minimum before there’s a mass movement or revolt, they now know there are some outliers who will get fed up to the point they shoot them.

Deny coverage and screw people just to increase a bonus you don’t need, and there’s an escalating probability someone will finally get pissed off enough to blow you away.

I’ve already written about this, and most people agree, but a few argue that shooting someone isn’t going to help anyone, but if this leads to insurance companies being just a little bit fairer and and scares the plutocracy, it might, and the one crime that’s unforgiveable here is when people start fucking with your money.

I just quit my last corporate job because I saw it coming. Worse has happened to former coworkers, who after 30 years of working and paying into the insurance plan, got audited to the point of madness once they had any serious health problem.

They do this now in November to avoid paying raises and bonuses, and they document it so if they can’t drive you crazy enough to quit, they can argue reasonable cause for firing you to avoid paying out the unemployment insurance you already paid into. If you want a shot, you have to go court.

I could elaborate forever, but this shooting is a crime I can understand, and I’d wager it could have been avoided if UHC just paid out what they promised.

He's not a professional. Wealthy private school background and had a back surgery that was giving him issues.

Seems like he went off the deep end and off the radar 6 months ago.

How can this be acceptable in the richest country on earth?

Nowhere else in the developed world can this happen.

Why do Americans put up with this?

 

Medical bills account for 40% of bankruptcies... I think a shooting of the kind that recently happened was inevitable.

These bankrupt people end up in tent cities or the back of cars and shacks that in the rest of the modern world are sold and bought as garden sheds!

The old and the disabled are hit hard and there health conditions can only get worse.

Why is Americas health system run by a mafia?

 

NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE

Exorbitant medical bills in the United States play a huge part in personal bankruptcies, accounting for about 40% of the filings last year, according to a new study.

 

About 500000 Americans filed for bankruptcy protection in 1999 largely because of heavy medical expenses, according to the study, which is to be published next month in a finance journal, Norton's Bankruptcy Adviser.

 

“Very little attention has been paid to the number of people who are in bankruptcy because of serious medical problems,” said the study's lead author, Harvard law professor Elizabeth Warren. “It's a reminder that many of the families in bankruptcy have been pressed to the edge by expenses stemming from illness or injury.”

 

Professor Warren and colleagues found that elderly people and women, as well as...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1127305/

jackb wrote:

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How can this be acceptable in the richest country on earth?

Nowhere else in the developed world can this happen.

Why do Americans put up with this?

 

Medical bills account for 40% of bankruptcies... I think a shooting of the kind that recently happened was inevitable.

These bankrupt people end up in tent cities or the back of cars and shacks that in the rest of the modern world are sold and bought as garden sheds!

The old and the disabled are hit hard and there health conditions can only get worse.

Why is Americas health system run by a mafia?

 

NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE

Exorbitant medical bills in the United States play a huge part in personal bankruptcies, accounting for about 40% of the filings last year, according to a new study.

 

About 500000 Americans filed for bankruptcy protection in 1999 largely because of heavy medical expenses, according to the study, which is to be published next month in a finance journal, Norton's Bankruptcy Adviser.

 

“Very little attention has been paid to the number of people who are in bankruptcy because of serious medical problems,” said the study's lead author, Harvard law professor Elizabeth Warren. “It's a reminder that many of the families in bankruptcy have been pressed to the edge by expenses stemming from illness or injury.”

 

Professor Warren and colleagues found that elderly people and women, as well as...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1127305/

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 Bankrupt people don't end up in tent cities. They have their debts wiped clean.

 

Their credit gets banged up for a few years and they move on. 

 

It's really not the worst plan in the world. Refuse to buy insurance. Spend your money on fun things. If you have a medical emergency, run up the bill, file bankruptcy, and make the rest of us pay more for our insurance and medical bills..

 

If I'm not mistaken our president elect filed bankruptcy a couple of times..

jackb wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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jackb wrote:

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How can this be acceptable in the richest country on earth?

Nowhere else in the developed world can this happen.

Why do Americans put up with this?

 

Medical bills account for 40% of bankruptcies... I think a shooting of the kind that recently happened was inevitable.

These bankrupt people end up in tent cities or the back of cars and shacks that in the rest of the modern world are sold and bought as garden sheds!

The old and the disabled are hit hard and there health conditions can only get worse.

Why is Americas health system run by a mafia?

 

NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE

Exorbitant medical bills in the United States play a huge part in personal bankruptcies, accounting for about 40% of the filings last year, according to a new study.

 

About 500000 Americans filed for bankruptcy protection in 1999 largely because of heavy medical expenses, according to the study, which is to be published next month in a finance journal, Norton's Bankruptcy Adviser.

 

“Very little attention has been paid to the number of people who are in bankruptcy because of serious medical problems,” said the study's lead author, Harvard law professor Elizabeth Warren. “It's a reminder that many of the families in bankruptcy have been pressed to the edge by expenses stemming from illness or injury.”

 

Professor Warren and colleagues found that elderly people and women, as well as...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1127305/

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 Bankrupt people don't end up in tent cities. They have their debts wiped clean.

 

Their credit gets banged up for a few years and they move on. 

 

It's really not the worst plan in the world. Refuse to buy insurance. Spend your money on fun things. If you have a medical emergency, run up the bill, file bankruptcy, and make the rest of us pay more for our insurance and medical bills..

 

If I'm not mistaken our president elect filed bankruptcy a couple of times..

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 That's clearly not the case for hundreds of thousands of people.

Yes some can have their debts wiped most can't and there is paper going through the house right now to make it harder to do that.

Insured people are being ripped off by the system by getting a big fat no we aint paying... the insurance company involved here was already under criminal investigation for wrongfully refusing payouts.

Other insurance companies are trembling.

If you read the link you'll find that yes an awful lot of people are going bust and becoming homeless because of medical debt.

You spout the typical Republican lines of blaming the victims.

Remember this only happens in America.

 

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 The homeless in America are mostly addicts or have mental issues..

 

Bankruptcy allows you to keep your housing as long as you pay for it. Wiping out your medical debt is done exactly for that reason. It gives you a fresh start while protecting things like cars, possessions, housing and the like. It may also motivate people to buy health insurance, which is cheap as hell, if you don't make much money..

 

As for not getting services, all health systems withhold service based on cost and supply issues..

 

Even yours..

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/aug/30/national-tragedy-figures-show-large-rise-in-people-dying-while-on-nhs-waiting-list