ChaoticMusings

I think we have a trophy hunter in our midst. 

Magica wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Selecting animals by age etc to control the population is culling them, and it's done for the benefit of that particular species, not to pander to mans bloodthirsty' sporting'instincts.

How do you feel about bull fighting and fox hunting?

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 It's both. The hunter must select the animal based on what the managers have decided needs to be harvested. Tags are issued and only those with a tag can harvest that animal. On species without a tag like ducks, a bag limit applies. That limit is derived based on the population of that particular species. 

 

It's not a free for all unless it's a species that's invasive (like feral hogs here or pythons in Florida)..

 

Bullfighting isn't comparable to hunting.  While it doesn't bother me, I can logically follow why someone would find it problematic. You're slowly killing an animal for entertainment. 

 

Fox hunting is fine.  It's just predator control. One could say it should only be done with firearms so the fox doesn't suffer,  but I'm also not bothered by canines doing what they do. It's not that different than LGDs here in Texas chasing down coyotes and ripping them to shreds..

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 I hate blood sports.  Fox hunting is horrendous being torn apart by lack of dogs, bullfighting is horrible being killed for cheers!

I hate it, never would do this, or watch this happen to any animal.  

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Then don't do them.

I've never been to a bullfight but I've been to a cockfight in Mexico. Bored me to death after about 5 minutes.

I've seen a Jack Russell kill a cat. It wouldn't have bothered me if it were a fox. 

Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Selecting animals by age etc to control the population is culling them, and it's done for the benefit of that particular species, not to pander to mans bloodthirsty' sporting'instincts.

How do you feel about bull fighting and fox hunting?

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 It's both. The hunter must select the animal based on what the managers have decided needs to be harvested. Tags are issued and only those with a tag can harvest that animal. On species without a tag like ducks, a bag limit applies. That limit is derived based on the population of that particular species. 

 

It's not a free for all unless it's a species that's invasive (like feral hogs here or pythons in Florida)..

 

Bullfighting isn't comparable to hunting.  While it doesn't bother me, I can logically follow why someone would find it problematic. You're slowly killing an animal for entertainment. 

 

Fox hunting is fine.  It's just predator control. One could say it should only be done with firearms so the fox doesn't suffer,  but I'm also not bothered by canines doing what they do. It's not that different than LGDs here in Texas chasing down coyotes and ripping them to shreds..

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 The only time I enjoy a bull fight is when the matador gets a horn up his anus.   

Anyone who likes watching animals killed for sport or ripped apart by dogs is sick in the head

Syl wrote:

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Selecting animals by age etc to control the population is culling them, and it's done for the benefit of that particular species, not to pander to mans bloodthirsty' sporting'instincts.

How do you feel about bull fighting and fox hunting?

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 Well, yeah. And if nature’s natural selection among animals isn’t working fast enough, culling can be done humanely.

That has to be better than having a bunch of LARPing ….‘apex predators’….rampaging around. What if their shots miss their intended target, as they so often do, which then causes their ’trophy’ to escape and probably suffer agonising pain for days. What if it‘s an unauthorised/illegal hunt, btw? 

‘apex predators’ …. lol 

Maddog wrote:

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Vam wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Selecting animals by age etc to control the population is culling them, and it's done for the benefit of that particular species, not to pander to mans bloodthirsty' sporting'instincts.

How do you feel about bull fighting and fox hunting?

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 Well, yeah. And if nature’s natural selection among animals isn’t working fast enough, culling can be done humanely.

That has to be better than having a bunch of LARPing ….‘apex predators’….rampaging around. What if their shots miss their intended target, as they so often do, which then causes their ’trophy’ to escape and probably suffer agonising pain for days. What if it‘s an unauthorised/illegal hunt, btw? 

‘apex predators’ …. lol 

 

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 If it's illegal that's a totally different situation.

 

No one rampages around either. Stop sounding like an ignorant drama queen. Humans are apex predators and like all of them, they have different skill levels in killing their prey..🙄

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 Sure. Right after you stop perpetuating the ‘know-it-all entitled American’ stereotype.

So, if folks are less kill-skilled, does that lower their ‘apex’ status and make them kinda shit predators? Is there a chart to grade ‘apex’? 

Vam wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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Vam wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Selecting animals by age etc to control the population is culling them, and it's done for the benefit of that particular species, not to pander to mans bloodthirsty' sporting'instincts.

How do you feel about bull fighting and fox hunting?

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 Well, yeah. And if nature’s natural selection among animals isn’t working fast enough, culling can be done humanely.

That has to be better than having a bunch of LARPing ….‘apex predators’….rampaging around. What if their shots miss their intended target, as they so often do, which then causes their ’trophy’ to escape and probably suffer agonising pain for days. What if it‘s an unauthorised/illegal hunt, btw? 

‘apex predators’ …. lol 

 

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 If it's illegal that's a totally different situation.

 

No one rampages around either. Stop sounding like an ignorant drama queen. Humans are apex predators and like all of them, they have different skill levels in killing their prey..🙄

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 Sure. Right after you stop perpetuating the ‘know-it-all entitled American’ stereotype.

So, if folks are less kill-skilled, does that lower their ‘apex’ status and make them kinda shit predators? Is there a chart to grade ‘apex’? 

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 I know infinitely more about hunting than you do. 

Surely even you know that not all apex predators are equal. Grizzly bears are for more deadly than black bears..

Wolves are more deadly than coyotes. 

Every year in Texas we harvest 500,000 whitetails. Hunting generates billions for the economy and for conservation efforts throughout the state..

What you suggest would be a disaster for the wildlife..Culling would never be effective on the scale it needs to be done, nor could we afford it..

I can assure you the biologists at the state have this under control which is why we are teaming with wildlife. But go ahead, mock the system that you clearly don't know shit about..

Or maybe you  shoukd dial back your emotional nonsense and try to understand how well this system works for the species hunted, the species protected and the people that want to enjoy the outdoors and the flora and fauna in it..

”Surely even you know….”

Chill TF out a bit, Dawg.

I just thought I’d give you another opportunity to show how “ignorant” I am.

You're welcome 😊

Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Maddog, You have compared animals killing other animals...(Jack Russel killing a cat, but it wouldn't bother you if it had been a fox) as if there is a comparison.
Fox hunting was organised, it was a 'sport', run by toffee nosed twats who got some sort of sexual boost by chasing around terrified foxes and their cubs, then watching the hounds rip them apart, possibly after the fox had been traumatised for hours.
After fox hunting was banned, many hounds were just disposed of, surplus to requirements.

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I know it was organized. And no one gets a sexual boost from fox hunting.. That's just more emotional nonsense..

 

They do enjoy working their dogs (both hounds and terriers)and horses. 

 

My point is, canines will chase and kill things. That's what they do whether wild or domesticated. Whether we organize it or not..

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 Have you ever known people who went fox hunting in the UK Maddog?

Thought not....my sister did, and the after events they held after seeing foxes and cubs torn to shreds, were very 'physical'...it sickened her, though you might enjoy it. 

(We can all be patronising when we choose to be)

Maddog wrote:

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 I know infinitely more about hunting than you do. 

 

Surely even you know that not all apex predators are equal. Grizzly bears are for more deadly than black bears..

 

Wolves are more deadly than coyotes. 

 

Every year in Texas we harvest 500,000 whitetails. Hunting generates billions for the economy and for conservation efforts throughout the state..

 

What you suggest would be a disaster for the wildlife..Culling would never be effective on the scale it needs to be done, nor could we afford it..

 

I can assure you the biologists at the state have this under control which is why we are teaming with wildlife. But go ahead, mock the system that you clearly don't know shit about..

 

Or maybe you  shoukd dial back your emotional nonsense and try to understand how well this system works for the species hunted, the species protected and the people that want to enjoy the outdoors and the flora and fauna in it..

 

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 Have you always been a cunt, or did it come on gradually?