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Digger · Admin

RE: News

Date: Aug 10 2:00 PM, 2025

Red Okktober wrote:
There's a new Prince Andrew book out, which is meant to be the final nail in his coffin re ever making some kind of comeback. I don't think there was any chance of that anyway, but this has sealed it.

There's all the Epstein stuff and dodgy finances and contacts, but there's lots of smaller, newer stuff as well, like when he bawled out a member of staff and called him an imbecile for referring to The Queen Mother as The Queen Mother, instead of Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother "How long have you worked here, and you still don't know what my fucking granny's called?"

He also had staff removed from his office - one for wearing a nylon tie and another for having a mole on his face. LoL

My favourite Andrew story was when he screamed at a cleaner for laying out the 72 teddy bears on his bed in the wrong order!

To me he's always come across as a pompous, snotty-nosed bully, someone who should have had a few back-of-the-head slaps in his life.

There could never be a comeback, imho, the general public sees him for what he is. And yeah, teddy-gate was

Magica · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
There's a new Prince Andrew book out, which is meant to be the final nail in his coffin re ever making some kind of comeback. I don't think there was any chance of that anyway, but this has sealed it.

There's all the Epstein stuff and dodgy finances and contacts, but there's lots of smaller, newer stuff as well, like when he bawled out a member of staff and called him an imbecile for referring to The Queen Mother as The Queen Mother, instead of Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother "How long have you worked here, and you still don't know what my fucking granny's called?"

He also had staff removed from his office - one for wearing a nylon tie and another for having a mole on his face. LoL

My favourite Andrew story was when he screamed at a cleaner for laying out the 72 teddy bears on his bed in the wrong order!
To me he's always come across as a pompous, snotty-nosed bully, someone who should have had a few back-of-the-head slaps in his life.
There could never be a comeback, imho, the general public sees him for what he is. And yeah, teddy-gate was

Totally agree! He is narcissistic, spoilt brat. Harry takes after him aswell. I read somewhere he called a servant, as they were called back in the day, now staff, a peasant! Nasty bastard!

I'm sick of the royals since our queen died.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog, You have compared animals killing other animals...(Jack Russel killing a cat, but it wouldn't bother you if it had been a fox) as if there is a comparison.
Fox hunting was organised, it was a 'sport', run by toffee nosed twats who got some sort of sexual boost by chasing around terrified foxes and their cubs, then watching the hounds rip them apart, possibly after the fox had been traumatised for hours.
After fox hunting was banned, many hounds were just disposed of, surplus to requirements.
I know it was organized. And no one gets a sexual boost from fox hunting.. That's just more emotional nonsense..

They do enjoy working their dogs (both hounds and terriers)and horses.

My point is, canines will chase and kill things. That's what they do whether wild or domesticated. Whether we organize it or not..
Have you ever known people who went fox hunting in the UK Maddog?
Thought not....my sister did, and the after events they held after seeing foxes and cubs torn to shreds, were very 'physical'...it sickened her, though you might enjoy it.

(We can all be patronising when we choose to be)

We hunt some species with dogs here. Animals are killed at the end, although it's usually with a firearm..

And obviously the people that engage in the activity enjoy a successful culmination, or they wouldn't do it. That doesn't mean it's sexual..

Maddog · Go Outside

Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Vam wrote:
Syl wrote:
Selecting animals by age etc to control the population is culling them, and it's done for the benefit of that particular species, not to pander to mans bloodthirsty' sporting'instincts.

How do you feel about bull fighting and fox hunting?
Well, yeah. And if nature’s natural selection among animals isn’t working fast enough, culling can be done humanely.
That has to be better than having a bunch of LARPing ….‘apex predators’….rampaging around. What if their shots miss their intended target, as they so often do, which then causes their ’trophy’ to escape and probably suffer agonising pain for days. What if it‘s an unauthorised/illegal hunt, btw?
‘apex predators’ …. lol

If it's illegal that's a totally different situation.

No one rampages around either. Stop sounding like an ignorant drama queen. Humans are apex predators and like all of them, they have different skill levels in killing their prey..🙄
Killing an animal with a gun hardly constitutes an apex predator. How about you get down on all fours and use your teeth and fingernails and see who's apex then?

Apex predators can use their brains to utilize tools. Because of our tools, we are the top of the heap.

Maddog · Go Outside

"Humans exhibit many characteristics that align with the definition of an apex predator, particularly through their unique cognitive and behavioral adaptations. Intelligence and complex problem-solving abilities allow humans to devise effective hunting strategies and overcome environmental challenges. The development and continuous refinement of tools, from early stone implements to modern hunting technologies, have consistently enhanced human predatory capabilities. These tools extend human reach and efficiency in acquiring food resources across diverse landscapes.

Cooperative hunting, observed in various human societies throughout history, further solidifies this status. Groups can coordinate to pursue and capture larger or more challenging prey, increasing hunting success and resource acquisition. This collaborative approach, combined with remarkable adaptability, has enabled humans to occupy top positions in food chains across nearly all terrestrial and aquatic ecosystems globally."

Maddog · Go Outside

Vam wrote:
”Surely even you know….”
Chill TF out a bit, Dawg.
I just thought I’d give you another opportunity to show how “ignorant” I am.
You're welcome 😊

-- Edited by Vam on Sunday 10th of August 2025 10:03:34 AM

I don't think you're ignorant at all. That's why I find your random ignorant comments bewildering at times..

You do have a tendency to look at others as provincials, lacking your style and status.

Let's be honest, your expertise of the outdoor world is limited to tapas on a patio with a glass of wine.

Date: Aug 10 7:26 PM, 2025

Guess who

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Vam wrote:
”Surely even you know….”
Chill TF out a bit, Dawg.
I just thought I’d give you another opportunity to show how “ignorant” I am.
You're welcome 😊

-- Edited by Vam on Sunday 10th of August 2025 10:03:34 AM
I don't think you're ignorant at all. That's why I find your random ignorant comments bewildering at times..

You do have a tendency to look at others as provincials, lacking your style and status.

Let's be honest, your expertise of the outdoor world is limited to tapas on a patio with a glass of wine.

All this talk of 'Me hunter you prey' seems to have aroused your bravery gene Maddog.

Maddog · Go Outside

"Home to approximately 5 million whitetail deer, Texas sees an average annual harvest of 600,000 to 800,000 deer. This high harvest rate reflects not only the state’s vast land and abundant deer population but also the effectiveness of its hunting regulations in maintaining ecological balance. TPWD closely monitors deer populations, regularly adjusting hunting quotas, bag limits, and antler restrictions to keep populations stable. Through careful management of harvest rates, TPWD protects Texas ecosystems, reduces the risks associated with overpopulation, and supports the health and genetic diversity of the state’s deer herds."

Biology > emotion..

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Vam wrote:
”Surely even you know….”
Chill TF out a bit, Dawg.
I just thought I’d give you another opportunity to show how “ignorant” I am.
You're welcome 😊

-- Edited by Vam on Sunday 10th of August 2025 10:03:34 AM
I don't think you're ignorant at all. That's why I find your random ignorant comments bewildering at times..

You do have a tendency to look at others as provincials, lacking your style and status.

Let's be honest, your expertise of the outdoor world is limited to tapas on a patio with a glass of wine.

All this talk of 'Me hunter you prey' seems to have aroused your bravery gene Maddog.

I don't think hunting requires bravery. At least most forms of it. Outside of a few species in Africa it's more of just an ability to persevere in often unpleasant conditions..

I guess a dead goose could land on your head and kill you. 🤷

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
Guess who

That's a heartbreaking pic....lets even it up.

BULLFIGHTING-SPAIN-SAN-ISIDRO

Maddog · Go Outside

Of course, there is always poison. I'm still not convinced it won't impact other species including livestock..

“Texas A&M AgriLife experts are the leading authorities on feral hog control in the nation, and we are the first to test this in a real-world application and to show that this warfarin-based toxicant can be effective for reducing these pests,” explains John Sharp, Chancellor of the Texas A&M University System. “Unabated feral hog populations threaten our natural resources, our livelihoods and our quality of life, and our goal, as a land-grant institution, is to provide safe, effective, science-backed solutions for all Texans.”

Maddog · Go Outside

"All captive wild pigs fed 0.005% warfarin baits in no choice feeding trials succumbed in an average of 8 days from exposure. Behavioral symptoms of warfarin exposure included vomiting, external bleeding, abnormal breathing, incoordination, and limping. Postmortem examinations revealed hemorrhaging in organs and muscles, particularly the legs, gastrointestinal tract, and abdomen."

I guess this is better than shooting them, as there are no hunters getting boners during the process..🤷

Maddog · Go Outside

"In the decades since many African states won their independence, trophy hunting has proven to be an effective, market-based tool to raise revenue and create economic incentives for wildlife conservation and sustainable development. This effectiveness is internationally recognized by respected agencies and institutions including the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service,[2] the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization,[3] the World Bank,[4] and the International Union for Conservation of Nature.[5] As part of holistic conservation programs, trophy hunting enables African nations to practice conservation at landscape scales while improving the lives and livelihoods of rural and indigenous peoples in a way that reduces dependence on foreign aid and philanthropy. It also helps achieve the U.S. foreign policy goal of African economies that thrive, prosper, and control their own destinies.[6]"

I have no doubt that urban inhabitants of Europe and parts of the US are well intentioned. But I also know they are wrong and their emotional rhetoric serves no one but their own conscience.

Vam · Musing at the Chaos

Maddog wrote:
Vam wrote:
”Surely even you know….”
Chill TF out a bit, Dawg.
I just thought I’d give you another opportunity to show how “ignorant” I am.
You're welcome 😊

-- Edited by Vam on Sunday 10th of August 2025 10:03:34 AM
I don't think you're ignorant at all. That's why I find your random ignorant comments bewildering at times..

You do have a tendency to look at others as provincials, lacking your style and status.

Let's be honest, your expertise of the outdoor world is limited to tapas on a patio with a glass of wine.

Oh gee, how nice for me! 😂….. (just kidding, Dawg, in case you’re wondering)

Those really are ridiculous assumptions, btw. I’ll gladly engage with anyone! But I guess there’s no point in trying to convince you otherwise.

My only ‘red line’ is when I see staggering, subliterate stupidity being worn like a badge of honour, and especially when it’s coupled with sociopathic arrogance. That‘s when all bets are off for me, and why I despise that abhorrent asshole currently squatting in your White House.

As for hunting, irrespective of all your cogent and knowledgeable advocacy in favour of it, I’m never going to get onboard. On a purely visceral level, bloodsports repulse me. Especially so when things go seriously wrong, as they all too often do.

If that makes me a drama queen…..ho-kay🤷🏻‍♀️….cent’anni di me ne frego 💁🏻‍♀️

Date: Aug 10 9:51 PM, 2025

Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Guess who

That's a heartbreaking pic....lets even it up.

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Sorry, tried to re-size smaller several times but it wasn’t happening.

Maddog · Go Outside

Vam wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Vam wrote:
”Surely even you know….”
Chill TF out a bit, Dawg.
I just thought I’d give you another opportunity to show how “ignorant” I am.
You're welcome 😊

-- Edited by Vam on Sunday 10th of August 2025 10:03:34 AM
I don't think you're ignorant at all. That's why I find your random ignorant comments bewildering at times..

You do have a tendency to look at others as provincials, lacking your style and status.

Let's be honest, your expertise of the outdoor world is limited to tapas on a patio with a glass of wine.
Oh gee, how nice for me! 😂….. (just kidding, Dawg, in case you’re wondering)
Those really are ridiculous assumptions, btw. I’ll gladly engage with anyone! But I guess there’s no point in trying to convince you otherwise.
My only ‘red line’ is when I see staggering, subliterate stupidity being worn like a badge of honour, and especially when it’s coupled with sociopathic arrogance. That‘s when all bets are off for me, and why I despise that abhorrent asshole currently squatting in your White House.
As for hunting, irrespective of all your cogent and knowledgeable advocacy in favour of it, I’m never going to get onboard. On a purely visceral level, bloodsports repulse me. Especially so when things go seriously wrong, as they all too often do.
If that makes me a drama queen…..ho-kay🤷🏻‍♀️….cent’anni di me ne frego 💁🏻‍♀️

Getting on board personally is much different than attacking others that do, out of pure ignorance and emotion.

I'm sure you'd probably not be able to kill a lamb and make a roast. But unless you're a vegan, I'd point out your hypocrisy if you attacked the person that does..

Maddog · Go Outside

In case any of the omnivores here want to learn how to do it..

I may have lamb chops for dinner. 😉

Admin - Absolutely no animal killing vids on here.

-- Edited by Digger on Monday 11th of August 2025 12:57:02 AM

Vam · Musing at the Chaos

So far I’ve had ‘drama queen, nonsensical, emotional, ignorant, pure ignorance, attacking, hypocrite‘. Have I missed anything?

I’ve tried to respect your views on the basis that they’re knowledgeable and fact-based, insofar as I can tell. So it’s quite the irony seeing you accusing me of being combative, when you so disrespectfully dismiss other people’s instinctive revulsion and antipathy towards bloodsports. Rightly or wrongly, they’re perfectly normal, visceral, human reactions which we all have from time to time. But you’re too mule-headed to simply accept that and move the fuck on.

I frikkin knew I should have just carried on swerving past you for a while, as I said I would 🤦🏻‍♀️ So, that’s reactivated because I just can’t be assed anymore. Take the win, if it’s so crucial to you.