Magica wrote:

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Virginia Giuffre committed suicide last night.

 

The girl who was abused by Prince Andrew when 17, was mentally very weak after bullying online.

Very sad to end her life because of this.

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 She was mixed up from the get go.   Abused by someone as a kid according to her then she ran away from home for a short while before going to live with her dad.  I do believe that 'suicides' will be suicides.  That they could just as easily go this way no matter the circumstances.

When you've got kids, committing suicide is just about the most selfish thing you can do.    

And I'm sorry but I never fully believed she was as manipulated as she made out.   She admitted that two of the people she accused of abuse might not have done it.  I mean, how can you forget a thing like that?  But she'd tried to sue them both for millions and it got kicked out of court.  Imagine if that was your husband?   Witnesses  said she was also taking part in trafficking young girls too.  She was old enough to say no, I'm afraid.   Yes, it was wrong for those men to take advantage of her but nobody forced her.   When the time came to walk away she did.  She could have walked away any time.  I guess when you're getting paid £15K a go for sleeping with men it's tempting to just grin and bear it.

She was also being violent to her husband.

More to her than met the eye, I suspect. 

I felt sorry for her. Abused as a kid has to mess you up big time, no matter the public persona.

I feel for her kids, now motherless. xxx

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Everyone is an imperfect victim. No situation or individual is 100% good or bad. But for someone to actually take their own life they must of felt trapped with no way out and that is one very fearful place to be. As the adage says "there but for the Grace of God go I", we should be thankful that we don't feel that desperate or that if we ever do unlike so many , we have loved ones that care for us.

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 Lovely comment anon. We are fortunate to not be in that place, or had, as you said,.people around us.

The whole trafficking affair has had a grim outcome for the four people involved - one ostracised from his family and his reputation ruined, one jailed for 20 years, and two suicides.

Magica wrote:

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They are saying was she bumped off now. She showed no signs of wanting to killing herself.

Many who kill themselves show no signs that is what they are planning sadly.

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  I personally knew someone who committed suicide.  There was no warning.  No clues.  Nothing to suggest he'd do it.   That's why it comes as such a shock to everyone.  If you threaten suicide or go on about it or hint you're going to do it, or pushed into it by others etc,  it's either a cry for help or attention seeking but rarely done. 

Barksdale wrote:

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Magica wrote:

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They are saying was she bumped off now. She showed no signs of wanting to killing herself.

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 Think that is based on a tweet of hers from 2019 where she said she wasn't suicidal and had no intentions of taking her own life.

Obviously a lot can change in 5-6 years. Getting away with a public execution where the victim is so high profile is probably exceedingly difficult so the most likely explanation is suicide. 

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 I believe 'they' managed it with Princess Diana.

Barksdale wrote:

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Magica wrote:

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They are saying was she bumped off now. She showed no signs of wanting to killing herself.

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 Think that is based on a tweet of hers from 2019 where she said she wasn't suicidal and had no intentions of taking her own life.

Obviously a lot can change in 5-6 years. Getting away with a public execution where the victim is so high profile is probably exceedingly difficult so the most likely explanation is suicide. 

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 Especially so troubled a soul..

Wasn't she acting crazy just a few weeks ago, basically screaming for attention?  Not hard to believe she did the ultimate cry for attention..